[Next Project] Short Fiction by Ray Bradbury

[maticstric]

Recently found out there is a number of Bradbury short stories available on Gutenberg. Would you be interested in a Short Fiction collection?

Because Gutenberg has some of them inside ebooks of entire magazines (for some reason they didn't make a separate ebook of each story like they do now), I made a spreadsheet with all of the stories currently on PG, in order of publication: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB5Nt4LMVabt3KAUs1KxsfHfdpjU5OTs13dYITJcfLA

Please take a look at the Notes section of the spreadsheet and let me know what I should do about the collaborations and the stories whose titles have changed over time.

[Alex Cabal]

Sure!

Note that due to copyright trickery we must use PG's transcription and
nothing else.

If the stories with different titles are 100% identical to the new
titles, then we can use the new titles. Otherwise, use the old titles.

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[maticstric]

Repo: https://github.com/maticstric/ray-bradbury_short-fiction

I'll look into the variant titles and see if the stories are identical.

About the collaborations: There's two stories of Bradbury's that are collaborations with different writers (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB5Nt4LMVabt3KAUs1KxsfHfdpjU5OTs13dYITJcfLA). Unless we already have some SE way we deal with this (can't seem to find anything in the manual), I would say that both should actually be removed from this collection and put into future Short Fiction collections of the respective collaborators. I know we try to avoid duplicates.

--- The first is "The Record" which ISFDB lists as a Bradbury story in collaboration with Forrest J. Ackerman (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?78459). However, in the actual magazine in which "The Record" was first published (which was created by Bradbury himself when he was 18) Bradbury writes like he had nothing to do with it:

"THE RECORD was written first in 1929, scarcely more than a sketch, on two pages. Ackerman was thirteen. ED EARL REPP, LA author of THE RADIUM POOL, said of it: "I found it delighting and exceptionally interesting for the writing of a boy so young." Ackerman re-wrote it into a three page story, later, the present product. It has not been touched since. It is not being retouched now. Allow me to present THE RECORD as a record of how Forrie wrote, spelled and punctuated six years ago at the age of sixteen. ED."

"The Record" is also not found in Bradbury short story collections like this one http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?342872 so I think "The Record" would better fit into a Forrest J. Ackerman collection when/if we make it.

--- The second is "Lorelei of the Red Mist" which was a collaboration between Bradbury and Leigh Brackett but was written for a series of Brackett's called "Leigh Brackett's Solar System (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?36885). So again, I think if this story should be in just one collection, it should definitely be in a Brackett Short Fiction collection.

[Alex Cabal]

OK, if those are the only two collaborator stories then that plan sounds
good.

On 7/10/21 8:50 AM, maticstric wrote:
> Repo: https://github.com/maticstric/ray-bradbury_short-fiction
>
> I'll look into the variant titles and see if the stories are identical.
>
> About the collaborations: There's two stories of Bradbury's that are
> collaborations with different writers
> (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB5Nt4LMVabt3KAUs1KxsfHfdpjU5OTs13dYITJcfLA).
> Unless we already have some SE way we deal with this (can't seem to find
> anything in the manual), I would say that both should actually be
> removed from this collection and put into future Short Fiction
> collections of the respective collaborators. I know we try to avoid
> duplicates.
>
> --- The first is "The Record" which ISFDB lists as a Bradbury story in
> collaboration with Forrest J. Ackerman
> (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?78459). However, in the actual
> magazine in which "The Record" was first published (which was created by
> Bradbury himself when he was 18) Bradbury writes like he had nothing to
> do with it:
>
> "THE RECORD was written first in 1929, scarcely more than a sketch, on
> two pages. Ackerman was thirteen. ED EARL REPP, LA author of THE RADIUM
> POOL, said of it: "I found it delighting and exceptionally interesting
> for the writing of a boy so young." Ackerman re-wrote it into a three
> page story, later, the present product. It has not been touched since.
> It is not being retouched now. Allow me to present THE RECORD as a

> /record/ of how Forrie wrote, spelled and punctuated six years ago at
> the age of sixteen. /ED./"

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[maticstric]

Sorry, I've been mia the past week.

I should have been more clear. Among the currently available Bradbury stories on Gutenberg, there are only two collaborations. In the whole of Bradbury's work there's (from a very quick look at isfdb) around eleven short story collaborations that Bradbury was involved with. I don't know if that changes your previous answer, but I thought I'd mention it to avoid any confusion.

[Alex Cabal]

Let's continue as planned. Thanks!

On 7/19/21 12:53 PM, maticstric wrote:
> Sorry, I've been mia the past week.
>

> I should have been more clear. Among the /currently available Bradbury
> stories on Gutenberg/, there are only two collaborations. In the whole

> of Bradbury's work there's (from a very quick look at isfdb) around
> eleven short story collaborations that Bradbury was involved with. I
> don't know if that changes your previous answer, but I thought I'd
> mention it to avoid any confusion.
>
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:47:57 PM UTC+2 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, if those are the only two collaborator stories then that plan
> sounds
> good.
>
> On 7/10/21 8:50 AM, maticstric wrote:
> > Repo: https://github.com/maticstric/ray-bradbury_short-fiction
> <https://github.com/maticstric/ray-bradbury_short-fiction>
> >
> > I'll look into the variant titles and see if the stories are
> identical.
> >
> > About the collaborations: There's two stories of Bradbury's that are
> > collaborations with different writers
> >
> (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB5Nt4LMVabt3KAUs1KxsfHfdpjU5OTs13dYITJcfLA

> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB5Nt4LMVabt3KAUs1KxsfHfdpjU5OTs13dYITJcfLA>).

>
> > Unless we already have some SE way we deal with this (can't seem
> to find
> > anything in the manual), I would say that both should actually be
> > removed from this collection and put into future Short Fiction
> > collections of the respective collaborators. I know we try to avoid
> > duplicates.
> >
> > --- The first is "The Record" which ISFDB lists as a Bradbury
> story in
> > collaboration with Forrest J. Ackerman
> > (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?78459

> <http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?78459>). However, in the actual

> <http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?36885>). So again, I think if this

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[maticstric]

There's a bit of weirdness with sections in two of the stories.

The first is "Pillar of Fire" (https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n11_1948-Summer/page/n39/mode/2up). It's split into five sections but the first doesn't have the roman numeral title "I" like the others do (II, III, IV, V). Is it fine to just drop the first <h3> tag and leave the section title-less? Or should I just add it anyway?

The second is "The Creatures That Time Forgot" (https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n04_1946-Fall/page/n95/mode/2up). It's split into seven sections but, besides missing the first "I" like "Pillar of Fire", section numbers III and V are missing in the original scans (i.e. it goes II, IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX). Subsequent editions fix this by putting in the extra section titles into the appropriate places which results in a total of nine sections and means removing them was probably a mistake by the original publisher. Of course, these subsequent editions aren't in the public domain. What do you suggest would be the best solution to this problem?

Thanks!

[Alex Cabal]

On 7/20/21 3:43 AM, maticstric wrote:
> The first is "Pillar of Fire"
> (https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n11_1948-Summer/page/n39/mode/2up).
> It's split into five sections but the first doesn't have the roman
> numeral title "I" like the others do (II, III, IV, V). Is it fine to
> just drop the first <h3> tag and leave the section title-less? Or should
> I just add it anyway?

Let's add the I

> The second is "The Creatures That Time Forgot"
> (https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n04_1946-Fall/page/n95/mode/2up).
> It's split into seven sections but, besides missing the first "I" like
> "Pillar of Fire", section numbers III and V are missing in the original
> scans (i.e. it goes II, IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX). Subsequent editions fix
> this by putting in the extra section titles into the appropriate places
> which results in a total of nine sections and means removing them was
> probably a mistake by the original publisher. Of course, these
> subsequent editions aren't in the public domain. What do you suggest
> would be the best solution to this problem?

I think you can add those. Fixing section breaks that are clearly a
printer's or editor's error is not authorship.

[maticstric]

There's a few weird caps related things I don't know what to do about.

1. Don’t Get Technatal: “WHAT” is both capitalized and italicized. Is this something we do in SE?

  -  “WHAT” Stern shot out of his chair like a hooked eel.

2. Asleep in Armageddon: Message sent on radio. Maybe convert to only quotes? Also, an all-caps ship name but could count as some made up abbreviation.

  -  "CRASHED ON PLANETOID 787. SALE. SEND HELP. SALE. SEND HELP."

  -  “We’re Ship ACDN13.”

3. Jonah of the Jove-Run: Ship name capitalized. Should I italicize it instead with correct semantics? Could also count as an abbreviation possibly.
  -  “watching the great supply ship TERRA being entered and left”

4. Lazarus Come Forth: Made up (afaik) capitalized units.
  -  “Off orbit of Pluto 234CC, point zero-two, off 32, one by seven, follow up.”
  -  “The Martians intercepted the emergency life-rocket at 5199CVZ.”

5. Rocket Summer: The caps in “ESCAPE” seems to be used for emphasis. Maybe use <em> tag? <strong>
  -  “Then he labeled all these fantasies by their correct name, ESCAPE, and settled back, to wait the return of the Rocket.”

6. The Fight of the Good Ship Clarissa: Again, the caps seem to be used for emphasis.
  -  “ANTHONY QUELCH, the Cosmic Clamor Boy, with a face like turned linoleum on the third term”

7. The Monster Maker: I’m assuming “Frankenstein’s ARK” is like “Noah’s Ark” but with monsters. In which case, caps are again used as emphasis.
  -  "Progeny from Frankenstein’s ARK."

8. Zero Hour: Is there a SEMOS rule for spelling out words? I can’t find it.
  -  Mink’s mother leaned out the upstairs window. “A-N-G-L-E,” she spelled down at Anna.

[Weijia Cheng]

For #8: https://groups.google.com/g/standardebooks/c/xGCzXojHnKg

[Alex Cabal]

On 7/22/21 6:02 AM, maticstric wrote:
> There's a few weird caps related things I don't know what to do about.
>
> 1. Don’t Get Technatal: “WHAT” is both capitalized and italicized. Is
> this something we do in SE?
>   - “WHAT” Stern shot out of his chair like a hooked eel.

> <https://archive.org/details/Futuria_Fantasia_v01n01_1939-Summer_UnkSc-cape1736edit/page/n6/mode/1up>

`<strong>` is enough here which will give it small caps.

> 2. Asleep in Armageddon: Message sent on radio. Maybe convert to only
> quotes? Also, an all-caps ship name but could count as some made up
> abbreviation.
>   - "CRASHED ON PLANETOID 787. SALE. SEND HELP. SALE. SEND HELP."

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v04n01_1948-Winter/page/n60/mode/1up>

>   - “We’re Ship ACDN13.”

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v04n01_1948-Winter/page/n66/mode/1up>

Since it indicates he's keying it on some kind of morse code thing I
would use <b> to give it small caps. Since it is a stylized kind of
message you can omit italics on the ship but you can use `<span
epub:type>` to give it semantics anyway.

If ACDN13 is a ship name then it should get italics, but it sounds like
it could also just be a serial number. Serial numbers don't need italics.

> 3. Jonah of the Jove-Run: Ship name capitalized. Should I italicize it
> instead with correct semantics? Could also count as an abbreviation
> possibly.
>   - “watching the great supply ship TERRA being entered and left”

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n10_1948-Spring/page/n51/mode/1up>

Yes, italics, remove capitals. Terra is not an abbreviation.

> 4. Lazarus Come Forth: Made up (afaik) capitalized units.
>   - “Off orbit of Pluto 234CC, point zero-two, off 32, one by seven,
> follow up.”

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v02n09_1944-Wi_sas/page/n109/mode/1up>

>   - “The Martians intercepted the emergency life-rocket at 5199CVZ.”

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v02n09_1944-Wi_sas/page/n112/mode/1up>

Follow the general rules in the manual for setting units

> 5. Rocket Summer: The caps in “ESCAPE” seems to be used for emphasis.
> Maybe use <em> tag? <strong>
>   - “Then he labeled all these fantasies by their correct name, ESCAPE,
> and settled back, to wait the return of the Rocket.”

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n06_1947-Spring/page/n50/mode/1up>

I think this is a label and not emphasis. <b> is fine.

> 6. The Fight of the Good Ship Clarissa: Again, the caps seem to be used
> for emphasis.
>   - “ANTHONY QUELCH, the Cosmic Clamor Boy, with a face like turned
> linoleum on the third term”

> <https://archive.org/details/Futuria_Fantasia_v01n03_1940-Winter_UnkSc-cape1736edit/page/n5/mode/1up>

<em> sounds OK

> 7. The Monster Maker: I’m assuming “Frankenstein’s ARK” is like “Noah’s
> Ark” but with monsters. In which case, caps are again used as emphasis.
>   - "Progeny from Frankenstein’s ARK."

> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v02n06_1944-Spring/page/n41/mode/1up>

I would just titlecase `Ark`. Emphasis doesn't make sense here, it might
just be stylized in pulp style.

[maticstric]

Ran into "b.b. gun". I'm guessing that should be "<abbr epub:type="z3998:initialism">BB</abbr> gun" (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BB%20gun). However, it's not in the initialism exceptions list and so lint complains. Should I add it to the list in the tools code as well as SEMOS?

[Alex Cabal]

You can write it as `BB`. It is not an abbreviation, but rather the name
of a size of shot between `B` and `BBB`. If you have time time, you can
add this exception to the manual as a pull request to the `next` branch.

On 7/24/21 11:56 AM, maticstric wrote:
> Ran into "b.b. gun"
> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n02_1946-Spring/page/n46/mode/1up>.

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[maticstric]

Thanks! Made a pull request.

[maticstric]

"The Pendulum" has some intentional misspellings. A particularly good example is this paragraph (underlines are mine):

“He hadn’t minded it so much at first, that first nite. He couldn’t sleep, but it was not uncomfortable. The lites of the city were comets with tails that pelted from rite to left like foaming fireworks. But as the nite wore on he felt a gnawing in his stomach, that grew worse. He got very sick and vomited. The next day he couldn’t eat anything.”

There are more in the rest of the story like thought -> thot, through -> thru, brought -> brot, etc.

Should this count as a stylistic, "pulp-y" choice of the story or is it distracting enough to "modernize" it? No other stories do this, nor does it make any more sense in the context of the story itself.

[Alex Cabal]

I think we can modernize that, since the work is so short and as you say
it doesn't make sense in context anyway.

On 7/28/21 4:45 AM, maticstric wrote:
> "The Pendulum" has some intentional misspellings. A particularly good
> example is this

> <https://archive.org/details/Futuria_Fantasia_v01n02_1939-Fall_UnkSc-cape1736edit/page/n12/mode/1up>
> paragraph (underlines are mine):
>
> “He hadn’t minded it so much at first, that first _nite_. He couldn’t
> sleep, but it was not uncomfortable. The _lites_ of the city were comets
> with tails that pelted from _rite_ to left like foaming fireworks. But
> as the _nite_ wore on he felt a gnawing in his stomach, that grew worse.

> He got very sick and vomited. The next day he couldn’t eat anything.”
>
> There are more in the rest of the story like thought -> thot, through ->
> thru, brought -> brot, etc.
>
> Should this count as a stylistic, "pulp-y" choice of the story or is it
> distracting enough to "modernize" it? No other stories do this, nor does
> it make any more sense in the context of the story itself.
>
> On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 11:14:30 PM UTC+2 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> You can write it as `BB`. It is not an abbreviation, but rather the
> name
> of a size of shot between `B` and `BBB`. If you have time time, you can
> add this exception to the manual as a pull request to the `next`
> branch.
>
> On 7/24/21 11:56 AM, maticstric wrote:
> > Ran into "b.b. gun"
> >
> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n02_1946-Spring/page/n46/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n02_1946-Spring/page/n46/mode/1up>>.
>
> > I'm guessing that should be "<abbr
> > epub:type="z3998:initialism">BB</abbr> gun"
> > (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BB%20gun

> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/BB%20gun>). However,

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[maticstric]

Possible cover art: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Great_Comet_of_1843_RMG_BHC4148.tiff#/media/File:Smyth_The_Great_Comet_of_1843.jpg

PD proof: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015017176481&view=1up&seq=185&skin=2021&q1=The%20Great%20Comet%20of%201843

I think the person at the bottom will be partially obscured by the title/author which isn't ideal. Other than that I feel like it's a good fit.

[Alex Cabal]

Great find, thanks!

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[maticstric]

What would be the proper way to semanticate these italics in "Asleep in Armageddon".

The main character (Leonard Sale) hears voices in his head and a lot of the time their dialog (and sometimes his own) is in italics. The voices are sort of a mix of Sale going insane as well as separate characters (the two main voices get names later in the story: Tylle and Iorr). Would this count as internal thoughts (8.2.7) or should I semanticate it somehow? Example:

"Your name? asked hidden voices. Sale, he replied in whirling nausea. Leonard Sale. Occupation, cried the voices. Spaceman! he cried, alone in the night. Welcome, said the voices. Welcome, welcome. They faded."

The voices in his head also make a lot of sounds which might fit into 8.2.6. Example:

“Eeeeeeeeeeee, sang the voices, far away.

Ahhhhhhhh, sang the voices.

Sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sang the voices.

Die, die, die, die, die, sang the voices.

Ooooooooooooooo, cried the voices.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, a bee ran through his brain.”

[Alex Cabal]

You can use <q>, styled with italics in the CSS

On 8/12/21 11:14 PM, maticstric wrote:
> What would be the proper way to semanticate these italics in "Asleep in
> Armageddon".
>
> The main character (Leonard Sale) hears voices in his head and a lot of
> the time their dialog (and sometimes his own) is in italics. The voices
> are sort of a mix of Sale going insane as well as separate characters
> (the two main voices get names later in the story: Tylle and Iorr).
> Would this count as internal thoughts (8.2.7

> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/single-page#8.2.7>) or should I
> semanticate it somehow? Example:
> "/Your name?/ asked hidden voices. /Sale/, he replied in whirling
> nausea. /Leonard Sale/. /Occupation/, cried the voices. /Spaceman!/ he
> cried, alone in the night. /Welcome/, said the voices. /Welcome,
> welcome/. They faded."
> <https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v04n01_1948-Winter/page/n59/mode/1up>

>
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[maticstric]

More interesting italics on this page: https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n10_1948-Spring/page/n59/mode/1up

The main character (Nibley) is talking to the Captain through headphones/mic. And to emphasize that, the Captain's lines are in italics. What should I do with this?

[Weijia Cheng]

Seems like this might fall under 8.2.1? My guess is you'd only want to use quotes for the Captain's dialogue.

[maticstric]

I'm not sure but aren't these italics in "the context of quoted dialog"? I always thought 8.2.1 was avoiding quotes + italics being used as some sort of strong emphasis or as some mix between 8.2.11.2 and 8.2.11.3. But I guess maybe "the context of quoted dialog" just means that you can have emphasized words in the middle of dialog.

I think just removing the italics would remove from the "headphone-ness" of the conversation. It makes it really clear how they're communicating.

[Vince]

Yes, but the rule is saying, as you surmised, that it’s OK to have emphasis in quoted dialog (thereby having both). It’s not saying it’s OK for dialog to be both in general.

I think an exception here is reasonable, due to the nature of the conversation. But Alex has the final call.

[Alex Cabal]

It's fine to keep the italics here. As Matic noted that rule is mostly
to prevent things from getting emphasis twice. I would use <i> here.

On 8/14/21 10:07 AM, Vince wrote:
> Yes, but the rule is saying, as you surmised, that it’s OK to have
> emphasis in quoted dialog (thereby having both). It’s not saying it’s OK
> for dialog to be both in general.
>
> I think an exception here is reasonable, due to the nature of the
> conversation. But Alex has the final call.
>
>
>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 9:41 AM, maticstric <matic...@gmail.com

>> <mailto:matic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure but aren't these italics in "the context of quoted
>> dialog"? I always thought 8.2.1 was avoiding quotes + italics being
>> used as some sort of strong emphasis or as some mix between8.2.11.2

>> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/8-typography#8.2.11.2>and8.2.11.3
>> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/8-typography#8.2.11.3>. But I

>> guess maybe "the context of quoted dialog" just means that you can
>> have emphasized words in the middle of dialog.
>>
>> I think just removing the italics would remove from the
>> "headphone-ness" of the conversation. It makes it really clear how
>> they're communicating.
>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:36:28 PM UTC-7 weijia...@gmail.com

>> <http://gmail.com/>wrote:

>>
>> Seems like this might fall under8.2.1

>> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/8-typography#8.2.1>? My

>> guess is you'd only want to use quotes for the Captain's dialogue.
>>
>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:24:11 PM UTC-7 maticstric wrote:
>>
>> More interesting italics on this
>> page:https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n10_1948-Spring/page/n59/mode/1up

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[maticstric]

Alright, one more for good measure. There's a short dream sequence fully in italics in "Pillar of Fire": https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n11_1948-Summer/page/n49/mode/1up Leave as <i> tags?

And are there some rules I should be following here that I'm missing. Alex, what made you go with <q> with css italics vs <i> in the previous two questions? Just so I know for the future.

[Alex Cabal]

I think just <i> is fine here. I don't have the other reference in front
of me now but <q> means "inline quotation", so if it could be considered
a quotation but requiring italics then <q> would be a choice with more
meaning than <i>.

> >> <http://gmail.com/ <http://gmail.com/>>wrote:

> >>
> >> Seems like this might fall under8.2.1
> >> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/8-typography#8.2.1
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.6.1/8-typography#8.2.1>>? My
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> >> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 9:24:11 PM UTC-7 maticstric wrote:
> >>
> >> More interesting italics on this
> >>
> page:https://archive.org/details/Planet_Stories_v03n10_1948-Spring/page/n59/mode/1up
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[maticstric]

Should be ready for review!

Repo: https://github.com/maticstric/ray-bradbury_short-fiction

[Alex Cabal]

OK, this looks like very good work, and I've gone ahead and released it.
Thanks!

Alex

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[maticstric]

Great!

Thanks for the help everyone!

[Miguel Moço]

Hi. Tried to understand if this is an PD text and if it can be added to Ray's Short Stories.
I read the previous comment, that due to permissions to only use what is available on PG.
Does this rule applies here?

The text is "The Fireman" in from Galaxy Magazine: https://archive.org/details/galaxymagazine-1951-02/page/n5/mode/1up
Thanks in advance.

[Alex Cabal]

If it's not available on Project Gutenberg then it's unlikely that it's
US-PD. See their copyright how-to for instructions on clearing work
published after 1929: https://www.gutenberg.org/help/copyright.html

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[Weijia Cheng]

Also, have you worked on a production end-to-end before? Adding short stories to an existing collection can be complicated and it's best to have some experience from working on a full production first.

[Miguel Moço]

Thanks for the feedback.
No, not really by SE standards.
It was something I was entertaining myself with and then found the SE project, and it seemed to fit the existent ebook.

But put it aside, so that I take the first steps and learn the SE toolkit.
So I started the suggested title "The Outlaw of Torn by Edgar Rice Burroughs."

Found a few constraints due to SE toolkit, but already sent the error in a new topic.

[Weijia Cheng]

I see! If you're planning on working through that one end-to-end for SE, it would be good to create a separate thread with the [First Project] tag so that we can track your progress and assign your project a manager (to answer your questions about the style) and reviewer.

[Miguel Moço]

Thanks for the guidance.
Just created the thread ("[First Project] The Outlaw of Torn by Edgar Rice Burroughs") with an status update.

On the topic of the short story "The Fireman" I will let it be and try to confirm its PD status later.
Thanks for the link on PD Alex.

[Robin Whittleton]

There’s a new Bradbury short (“I, Mars”) up on PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76857. Want to add it to the collection Matic? Otherwise I’ll find time in the next week or so.

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I found a spare hour so I just did it: https://github.com/standardebooks/ray-bradbury_short-fiction/pull/4.

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