online session with Google's Gemini in trying to troubleshoot Sage 10.8 install

[American Citizen]

Hello all:

Well Gemini pegged part of the problem as Sage 10.8 needing Python 3.12
to run. My openSuse Leap 15.5 is stuck on Python 3.11 which is too old.

I had to install some repositories to get Python up to level 3.12, and
then I had to go through some antics to get certain files active because
of this error message

Package 'python312-pip' not found.
Package 'python312-setuptools' not found.
Package 'python312-sqlite' not found.
No provider of 'liblzma-devel' found.

Even after fixing all this and sage configure being happy now with my
Python 3.12.. I still keep hitting the same error and everything is dead
in the water.

alas, Sage complains that my python 3.12 is misconfigured... Gemini AI
doesn't know what it is doing either.

Randall

[American Citizen]

I tried:

./configure --with-system-python3=no

and that still crashes.

I am starting to wonder if sage v10.8 is incompatible with openSuse Leap
15.5 and that OS must be abandoned?

Leap 15.5 is NOT supported by openSuse anymore, so I guess I will have
to upgrade to 16.0

I have thousands and thousands of programs on my linux machine, so
upgrading is fraught with deep peril.

Randall

[Dima Pasechnik]

as I wrote in a reply which went to nowhere due to a typo in the address,
the immediate problem is in your /bin/python3,.
which does not have urllib (or urllib.request, i.e. urllib is too old) installed.

[American Citizen]

ARRGH! My system is using python 3.13.5 and I still cannot build.

I just checked using the alternatives command for "python3"

does sage math v10.8 using simple "python" and thinks that this will
automatically refer to python12 ???

my python refers to 2.7.18

perhaps this is the problem???

[dim...@gmail.com]

On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 06:18:40PM -0800, American Citizen wrote:
> ARRGH! My system is using python 3.13.5 and I still cannot build.
>
> I just checked using the alternatives command for "python3"
>
> does sage math v10.8 using simple "python" and thinks that this will
> automatically refer to python12 ???
>
> my python refers to 2.7.18
>
> perhaps this is the problem???

once again: the immediate problem is in the broken urllib in your
python3. This prevents ./configure from running correctly.
(error reporting could be better, but, well, I don't know how you
managed to get a python3 without urllib)

I tried running OpenSUSE Leap 15.6 in a container, and
zypper install python3
has installed python 3.6.15


The following 5 NEW packages are going to be installed:
libexpat1 libopenssl1_1 libpython3_6m1_0 python3 python3-base

5 new packages to install.

Package download size: 10.6 MiB

Package install size change:
| 38.6 MiB required by packages that will be installed
38.6 MiB | - 0 B released by packages that will be removed

Backend: classic_rpmtrans
Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y):
Retrieving: libexpat1-2.7.1-150400.3.31.1.x86_64 (Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15) (1/5), 101.7 KiB
Retrieving: libexpat1-2.7.1-150400.3.31.1.x86_64.rpm ....................................................................................................................................................[done (78.1 KiB/s)]
Retrieving: libopenssl1_1-1.1.1w-150600.5.18.1.x86_64 (Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15) (2/5), 1.4 MiB
Retrieving: libopenssl1_1-1.1.1w-150600.5.18.1.x86_64.rpm ................................................................................................................................................[done (1.4 MiB/s)]
Retrieving: libpython3_6m1_0-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 (Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15) (3/5), 1.2 MiB
Retrieving: libpython3_6m1_0-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64.rpm ...........................................................................................................................................[done (1.1 MiB/s)]
Retrieving: python3-base-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 (Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15) (4/5), 7.8 MiB
Retrieving: python3-base-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64.rpm ...............................................................................................................................................[done (4.7 MiB/s)]
Retrieving: python3-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 (Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15) (5/5), 106.1 KiB
Retrieving: python3-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64.rpm ................................................................................................................................................................[done]

Checking for file conflicts: .........................................................................................................................................................................................[done]
(1/5) Installing: libexpat1-2.7.1-150400.3.31.1.x86_64 ...............................................................................................................................................................[done]
(2/5) Installing: libopenssl1_1-1.1.1w-150600.5.18.1.x86_64 ..........................................................................................................................................................[done]
(3/5) Installing: libpython3_6m1_0-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 .....................................................................................................................................................[done]
(4/5) Installing: python3-base-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 .........................................................................................................................................................[done]
(5/5) Installing: python3-3.6.15-150300.10.103.1.x86_64 ..............................................................................................................................................................[done]
567427c3003b:/ # python3
Python 3.6.15 (default, Dec 21 2025, 21:56:36) [GCC] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import urllib
>>> import urllib.request
>>>

Dima

>
>
> On 1/6/26 18:08, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
> > as I wrote in a reply which went to nowhere due to a typo in the address,
> > the immediate problem is in your /bin/python3,.
> > which does not have urllib (or urllib.request, i.e. urllib is too old) installed.
> >
> >
> > On January 6, 2026 8:00:39 PM CST, American Citizen <website...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I tried:
> >>
> >> ./configure --with-system-python3=no
> >>
> >> and that still crashes.
> >>
> >> I am starting to wonder if sage v10.8 is incompatible with openSuse Leap 15.5 and that OS must be abandoned?
> >>
> >> Leap 15.5 is NOT supported by openSuse anymore, so I guess I will have to upgrade to 16.0
> >>
> >> I have thousands and thousands of programs on my linux machine, so upgrading is fraught with deep peril.
> >>
> >> Randall
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/6/26 17:55, American Citizen wrote:
> >>> Hello all:
> >>>
> >>> Well Gemini pegged part of the problem as Sage 10.8 needing Python 3.12 to run. My openSuse Leap 15.5 is stuck on Python 3.11 which is too old.
> >>>
> >>> I had to install some repositories to get Python up to level 3.12, and then I had to go through some antics to get certain files active because of this error message
> >>>
> >>> Package 'python312-pip' not found.
> >>> Package 'python312-setuptools' not found.
> >>> Package 'python312-sqlite' not found.
> >>> No provider of 'liblzma-devel' found.
> >>>
> >>> Even after fixing all this and sage configure being happy now with my Python 3.12.. I still keep hitting the same error and everything is dead in the water.
> >>>
> >>> alas, Sage complains that my python 3.12 is misconfigured... Gemini AI doesn't know what it is doing either.
> >>>
> >>> Randall
> >>>
> >>>
>

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