On Jun 2, 2023, at 11:37 PM, st nick <trueg...@att.net> wrote:
I heard back from my friend Jim who received and mounted the revised IRC seatpost.
Here's what he said:Paul in Dallas"Received it 2 days ago. Long ride yesterday and it is a game changer! No slippage….my Roadini is now dialed in. Can’t wait to ride it again."
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On Jun 18, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Kim Hetzel <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 18, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Kim Hetzel <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 19, 2023, at 8:50 AM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
The bolt is probably 304 stainless-steel, which is an austenitic stainless-steel and not magnetic. Ace hardware stores usually have a good selection of metric hardware. Note that they do not have 7mm threaded bolts (thread size, not Allen key size) which is what two bolt Nittos usually use, not sure what size the IRD has. Probably bigger than a seven because it is a single bolt.
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The hex size and bolt size are not necessarily related. I would say that it is more likely to be an 8 than a 7. You need to take the your bolt in and have it matched for thread diameter, thread pitch (the number of threads for a specified length), and threaded length, but in a magnetic material - you should take the Hexlox as well. The only 7 mm bolts that I have ever seen are the Nitto seatpost bolts - it is a rarely used size, which is why hardware stores don't carry them.
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I have a hunch that many people considering a very long setback post are more likely desiring more forward reach, for which changing the stem properly accomplishes. Moving your saddle further back than your optimal position over the bottom bracket for the sake of more forward reach is "going the wrong direction" ! Rivendell isn't alone as far as bike vendors in either downplaying or outright disregarding the importance and efficacy of proper stem length.
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I have a hunch that many people considering a very long setback post are more likely desiring more forward reach, for which changing the stem properly accomplishes. Moving your saddle further back than your optimal position over the bottom bracket for the sake of more forward reach is "going the wrong direction" ! Rivendell isn't alone as far as bike vendors in either downplaying or outright disregarding the importance and efficacy of proper stem length.
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On Jun 23, 2023, at 4:57 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kim, What you describe is exactly my point, that more forward reach/length within a given frame is accomplished with a longer stem(and/or bar choice), not a more setback post. That's why there are so many stem lengths available(from very short to very long), and so little seatpost setback variation. Hence I said using the post alone for more forward frame reach is akin to "going the wrong direction" , given the rider is riding in their sweet spot over the bottom bracket for their given crank length.
A rider with longer relative torso calls for frame that is designed for it, as in a longer top tube(frame reach) plus an appropriately reach to the bars(stem plus bar). (The 2021 Clem version you have should qualify as having an atypically long frame reach). Typically the mega setback posts were a cheap aftermarket compensation for mountain bike frames back in the 80's that often came with a 73d STA(or steeper) which equates to the saddle being appx. 13mm closer to the BB compared to a 72d STA. Believe it or not there were are still are some saddles that have even shorter rails than a Brooks which only adds to the mayhem.Just like fitting clothes, someone that has a longer torso needs appropriately long shirts and/or pants with sufficient rise for their given proportions. One has to ask though, in what way is the torso long-er ? Is it from a longer spine, a taller pelvis, both or other ? You wouldn't just buy mega high rise pants to make up for a relatively longer spine if your pelvis is of "normal" relation, you'd stick with appropriate rise pants and longer bodied shirts. With a bike whether the longer torso length is from a taller pelvis height or longer spine the pelvic floor to pedal relation over BB remains the same, hence it doesn't need altered. What's called for is more forward room. The longer torso length is appropriately fitted with a lengthened reach to the bar/stem combo.
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On Jun 23, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> wrote:
All I can say is that I also felt like I needed to be back more but when I finally did the opposite and moved it forward (adjusting the cockpit) it was a night and day difference. I thought I had been pretty comfortable prior but apparently there was a better way. When I see someone wanting something with massive setback like that I think that there is something else off.
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On Jun 24, 2023, at 3:49 PM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
Then there are also those with really, really long torsos, that need a long stem and lots of setback on the seatpost; or a custom frame.
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... I ... complained to Grant that I felt that I was "losing the pedal stroke" over top dead center. He counseled shoving the saddle back and raising it while raising and shortening the stem. Pedaling Nirvana; comfort as well as power, not to mention handling back to normal
On Jul 26, 2023, at 12:15 AM, Ray Varella <rayvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Leah,
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On Jul 26, 2023, at 6:09 AM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Leah, Why is it you believe you need more setback in the first place ? Compared to the Betty you had with it's 72 degree seat tube angle, the Clems are a more shallow 71.5, which equates to the same saddle and post capable of setting further back by about 6.5mm. As I've already expressed, if it's forward reach you want going backwards is going in the wrong direction. A longer stem and/or less swept back bars are called for. It seems most riders here asking for more setback ride wayback swept bars. Well that's the issue, that they are too far back, not the setback of the saddle. Get the saddle in an optimal place first, then deal with the reach.
From my experience, being too far back of the pedals and too upright doesn't allow for the most efficient use of leg/core strength. It becomes rather a viscious and futile cycle of trying to compensate for something that can't be compensated for. Been there and done it, in all futility. With the saddle in an optimal position and a forward lean, all of that simply isn't.A sure sign of being too far back in the saddle is when climbing. If I'm too far back, I either HAVE to stand to maintain any sort of momentum, or sit and grind in futility where no low gear seems low enough because I'm too far back. Maintaining a fluid spin is impossible. Standing does what ? Places me over the BB, in the optimal "power band". Gee, maybe I ought to been seated further forward to begin with ! ((( laughing ))) In moving saddle forward to an optimal place, hark ..... I find myself able to effectively and efficiently stay seated on climbs, always "on top" of the pedals, even if really steep, and it's marvelous !
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