Any release schedule for Qubes 4.0

[Swâmi Petaramesh]

Hi there,

I've been googling here and there, and couldn't find any release
schedule for the upcoming qubes 4.0...

Any clue anybody ?

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[Reg Tiangha]

On 2017-06-20 9:06 AM, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I've been googling here and there, and couldn't find any release
> schedule for the upcoming qubes 4.0...
>
> Any clue anybody ?
>
> ॐ
>

They haven't released one yet and it will be done when it's done.

Personally, I'd rather have them leave it in the oven until it's fully
baked, rather than to rush it out and then patch heavily later. If it
isn't ready yet, then it isn't ready. People can help speed things up
however, by volunteering to help find/fix bugs or helping with software
development by taking on one of the many "Help Wanted" tasks here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22help+wanted%22&utf8=%E2%9C%93

Or contributing in other ways as specified here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/contributing/

[Ryan Tate]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Reg Tiangha <r...@reginaldtiangha.com> wrote:
>
> On 2017-06-20 9:06 AM, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've been googling here and there, and couldn't find any release
>> schedule for the upcoming qubes 4.0...
>

> They haven't released one yet and it will be done when it's done.
>
> Personally, I'd rather have them leave it in the oven until it's fully
> baked, rather than to rush it out and then patch heavily later.

Without disagreeing with any of this, I’ll just note that on April 30 the (excellent) community manager Andrew David Wong indicated "we expect to publish the first Qubes 4.0 release
candidate (4.0-rc1) in the next ~1-2 months.” https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/kO2JqLqIQec/k1SKPO11CQAJ

Take that for what it’s worth.

[7v5w7go9ub0o]

A strong!!! ditto on the ".... I'd rather have them leave it in the oven

until it's fully baked, rather than to rush it out and then patch

heavily later." comment!

[Swâmi Petaramesh]

Le 20/06/2017 à 17:27, Reg Tiangha a écrit :
>

> Personally, I'd rather have them leave it in the oven until it's fully
> baked, rather than to rush it out and then patch heavily later. If it
> isn't ready yet, then it isn't ready.

Well, I was not criticizing, I was just asking :-}

I'm a bit annoyed because my company gave me a brand new laptop which I
expected to use with Qubes - personal choice, not a company policy so
they're not going to pay for this... And they're not going to be happy
if it's my choice and it fails to deliver - and the laptop appears to be
a bit to new for Qubes 3.2.

The touchpad was not working until I figured out one hour ago that I
could get it to work using a 4.9 kernel from qubes-dom0-current-testing,
but still my USB to Ethernet adapter won't work and I'm in trouble not
being able to connect to any wired network...

Trying to use a sys-usb VM lead me to this bug :
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2860

That's why I was wondering when Qubes 4.0 was expected, thinking it
might help with these hardware support issues.

But I'm fully aware of the preeminence of security considerations with
qubes, and I strongly support it of course.

Only, I hope to be able to use my laptop :-\

[Foppe de Haan]

Do you know if driver support is included in newer kernels?

[Reg Tiangha]

Curious: Did you install the qubes-usb-proxy package in both sys-usb and
sys-net templates before attempting to transfer the device?

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#attaching-a-single-usb-device-to-a-qube-usb-passthrough

[Swâmi Petaramesh]

Le 20/06/2017 à 19:34, Foppe de Haan a écrit :
> Do you know if driver support is included in newer kernels?

I know that recent Mints and Debian do manage this hardware well...

[Swâmi Petaramesh]

Le 20/06/2017 à 19:49, Reg Tiangha a écrit :
> Curious: Did you install the qubes-usb-proxy package in both sys-usb and
> sys-net templates before attempting to transfer the device?

THanks for the hint, but yes, it is currently installed in the template
used for both sys-usb and sys-net VMs.

[Foppe de Haan]

Have you considered baking your own 4.11-based kernel? (See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/yBeUJPwKwHM for a howto)

[cooloutac]

hmm maybe its a problem of not being able to have the same controller on both at same time? I'm sure there is a workaround for this on mailing list i'll have a look.

[cooloutac]

what is the method you attaching it to sys-net and what is the error messages?

Tried adding single block device? worse comes to worse you can just not use sys-usb and just add the usb controller you plug it in to sys-net. but then you missing out on sys-usb which i'm sure you don't have to do.

[cooloutac]

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:06:54 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> what is the method you attaching it to sys-net and what is the error messages?
>
> Tried adding single block device? worse comes to worse you can just not use sys-usb and just add the usb controller you plug it in to sys-net. but then you missing out on sys-usb which i'm sure you don't have to do.

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/assigning-devices/