A few tips on installing Qubes 4.0

[Patrick]

Hi,

I had already istalled 4.0 on my laptop and decided to upgrade a workhorse desktop running 3.0. So I just boot to a usb stick with a validated 4.0 iso. Actually, that's the first tip, make sure you're using the "dd" option when creating the iso (like the doc says anyway). That made a big difference in just getting the boot right.

I loaded it, had issues, tweaked some things, wasted time here and there but what what worked well was:

1 - boot to and loading a disk partioner like https://gparted.org/
- then I just removed all existing partitions.

2 - booting to and load a disk wipe program like killdisk: http://www.killdisk.com/
I don't know, I felt like there was just something existing on the disk that was causing a problem, and when I erased and wiped the drive and then did another 4.0 install it worked perfectly, no issues at all.

PS - I had issues trying to get dban working, for some reason.

Hope that helps some folks.

Patrick

[William Pate]

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My fresh installation of Qubes 4.0 was similarly trouble-free. I put it on a Dell Latitude E7240 laptop. It took a while. I only partitioned the disk -- now to just figure out how to extend Qubes' partition over Windows'. Oh, and more RAM would be nice. (I jumped straight from no-Linux-knowledge to Qubes. It's taking a while to learn.)

Next up: Lenovo W520.




William Pate
will...@pm.me
512-947-3311
www.wopate.com




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[Patrick]

Hey William,
Welcome to Qubes. I've been using it for 3 years now. As a former windows guy I can attest you WILL become more fluent in linux, but that's a good thing.

Many people here have said they use qubes for security purposes, and while that's true, my personal motivation is productivity. While getting to know this system takes a solid committment, the time invested pays off big in terms of working with multiple VMs at once. I love it. I'm surprised at how many people in Dallas I ask have no idea what it is, and I swim in AWS and Azure circles.

Hopefully it can gain some ground, while it's powerful, it needs help to make it easier to get into so that the masses can start to use it.

Good luck, you'll really like it.

Patrick

[Stuart Perkins]

Kinda like Ross Perot and Donald Trump's political careers...start by running for President.

Just get a good grasp of the architecture of Qubes...separate programs from data with templates...separate tasks with appVMs...restrict network exposure to ONLY the tasks which require it...it works very well as long as you keep that in mind when are working with it.

[Patrick]

Hi Stuart,
I like your input there, can you say a little more about it? I totally get separating tasks with appVMs, restricting network to each task, but say more on separating programs from data with templates - what are you doing in your case? Also, do you do some networking between the vms, etc?

In my case I'll have maybe some dev tools on a template, then maybe a couple of different google profiles on different vms, and of course I'll use the throw away browsers on any research I'm doing.

Patrick

[William Pate]

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On Sunday, September 23, 2018 10:53 PM, Stuart Perkins <perkins...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 02:30:50 +0000
> "'William Pate' via qubes-users" qubes...@googlegroups.com wrote:
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> > On Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:56 PM, Patrick pat...@runthisproject.com wrote:
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> > > Hi,
> > > I had already istalled 4.0 on my laptop and decided to upgrade a workhorse desktop running 3.0. So I just boot to a usb stick with a validated 4.0 iso. Actually, that's the first tip, make sure you're using the "dd" option when creating the iso (like the doc says anyway). That made a big difference in just getting the boot right.
> > > I loaded it, had issues, tweaked some things, wasted time here and there but what what worked well was:
> > > 1 - boot to and loading a disk partioner like https://gparted.org/
> > >
> > > - then I just removed all existing partitions.
> > >
> > > 2 - booting to and load a disk wipe program like killdisk: http://www.killdisk.com/
> > > I don't know, I felt like there was just something existing on the disk that was causing a problem, and when I erased and wiped the drive and then did another 4.0 install it worked perfectly, no issues at all.
> > > PS - I had issues trying to get dban working, for some reason.
> > > Hope that helps some folks.
> > > Patrick
> >
> > My fresh installation of Qubes 4.0 was similarly trouble-free. I put it on a Dell Latitude E7240 laptop. It took a while. I only partitioned the disk -- now to just figure out how to extend Qubes' partition over Windows'. Oh, and more RAM would be nice. (I jumped straight from no-Linux-knowledge to Qubes. It's taking a while to learn.)
> > Next up: Lenovo W520.
> > William Pate
> > will...@pm.me
> > 512-947-3311
> > www.wopate.com
> >

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> Kinda like Ross Perot and Donald Trump's political careers...start by running for President.
>
> Just get a good grasp of the architecture of Qubes...separate programs from data with templates...separate tasks with appVMs...restrict network exposure to ONLY the tasks which require it...it works very well as long as you keep that in mind when are working with it.
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Oh, I know I jumped into the deep, deep, deep end first. That's why I don't bug people with questions. Trial, error, research, fix, trial, error . . .

Ultimately, I want to use it for security purposes and (hopefully) productivity.


William

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