Off Topic - but... would you care to elaborate what fault you alleged in Protonmail and your source?
Lenovo Carbon 5G X1
Available
Good RAM
Little pricey
Easy install/maintain? Not sure if I can flash these BIOS...
Lenova 400 series
Available
Affordable
Limited RAM?
Little boxy
Easier to install/maintain
Librem 'what ever" model
Available
NOT Affordable
Limited RAM?
Reasonably easy to install/maintain!
G505
NOT as Available
Affordable
Limited RAM?
Very boxy?
Tough to install/maintain (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...)
200 series
NOT as Available?
Affordable
Limited RAM?
Very boxy?
Tough to install/maintain! (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...)
Dell/HP/Other?
I don't know, but I suspect Qubes was developeded on Lenovo's yet select models work
Desk Tops
I need a laptop...
Keep in mind I might weigh some of the "Easy to install/maintain" perspective more heavily but I see my best options as:
1)Carbon X1 being the ultimate winner (if I want to invest the $1k)
2)T400+ series for the budget concerned
3)Librem if you want to get the best you can with out the "fuss" and pay some $$
4)G505/200 if you have the technical know-how/experience
What I am struggling to weigh is the security/privacy/trust compromises and implications I have made/would make? I know G505/200 type products are most secure but how can I get one pre-installed and done (Easy) yet still balance trust, security, afford-ability, etc....I fear the open source BIOS are out of my technical scope to install and maintain.
I find Librem intriguing with the easiest "most" open source option for the "reasonable" layman(person)...sure not Intel/AMD/government secure but at least non chip maker collusion secure? Lets assume Librem screwed up initially with their claims....are they clear now? Is their product a good option?
Decisions, Decisions...
However I think your "..Pretty easy to maintain.." would be hell for me.
Librem(and maybe the Majora line) have huge appeal for me as they take care of the BIOS flashing.
I checked out the x230 and you are right they are available and cheap. I would still be interested in finding some company/individual who I can trust to take care of the BIOS flashing for me as a service(I would think others would also want this service as well...). The problem is who?
Thanks...
("-boxy is the new black." Good one and couldn't agree more...very funny!)
I checked out the x230 and you are right they are available and cheap. I would still be interested in finding some company/individual who I can trust to take care of the BIOS flashing for me as a service(I would think others would also want this service as well...). The problem is who?
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Hi Thiery, I wasn't aware the X230 can be freed same way as the X200 can.
As you saw, I am thinking about buying the RYF https://tehnoetic.com/tet-t400s <https://tehnoetic.com/tet-t400s> to be able to run with the Qubes 4. The T400s has but unfortunately 8GB RAM max and so the X230 with 16GB seems very interesting.
So my question is if the X230 is really deprived of all ME-AMT, or any non-free dirt?
If this is the case, your offer seems really interesting with all mentioned options available. I also use the RYF X200 for non-Qubes activities, but it would be just excellent if I could have just one machine for Qubes+non-Qubes too.
However I think your "..Pretty easy to maintain.." would be hell for me.
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I checked out the x230 and you are right they are available and cheap. I would still be interested in finding some company/individual who I can trust to take care of the BIOS flashing for me as a service
(I would think others would also want this service as well...). The problem is who?
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I would strongly advise digging into the skulls project anyone interested in flashing coreboot into their x230 themselves : https://github.com/merge/skulls/blob/master/README.md
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I am the counterpart to you guys somehow getting the tech media to
publish glorified press releases for you and everything I say is true.
People need to know the truth about what they would be purchasing, this
issue isn't and never was the fact that you are selling non-free laptops
- it is that you are claiming they are somehow open source
firwmare/libre/me disabled when they are not and could never be.
Remember any code exploit for ME is illegal in the US and buying new
intel/amd x86 hardware supports further anti-feature development...why
not make an OpenPOWER laptop? nothing is stopping you besides the false
belief that it is somehow impossible to make and sell owner controlled
hardware that is fast and modern - other companies are doing instead of
trying.
The business model of somehow keeping up open source firmware releases
with new x86 hardware without any vendor cooperation is impossible - it
would take years and millions to reverse engineer FSP thus x86 will
never be free.
Get an A10 quad core G505s (no ME/PSP) IMO it isn't that hard to compile
and install coreboot - myself and various others are willing to help
owner controlled system users for free if you run in to trouble.
Todd weaver started and owns the company so he isn't mis-informed he is
simply used to making claims he can't deliver because he has no ethics,
no real technical skills and he still fails to listen to those who do.
ME/PSP is impossible to disable on modern x86 anyone who tries is
wasting money and setting back the freedom computing movement but the
pur.idiots seem to not really care about that anyways.
If not, im sure you know a few me modules more ore less is completely irrelevant from a security point of view.
Also, i wasnt able to find a statement of Purism about the fact that, in the beginning, they claimed the ME was "completely disabled and removed". I mean, that was > obviously not true right?
They do claim that it is "disabled" which it is not and they also claim
they have "open source coreboot firmware" which they don't since the hw
init process is entirely blobbed making coreboot nothing more than a
simple wrapper layer.
but advertising hardware which runs almost entirely on closed source software (certainly, all the important parts do), that just sound highly dishonest in my ears
Puridiots pretend as though making a modern, fast and affordable owner
controlled libre computer simply can't be done which isn't true and
various companies do it (raptor computing systems, various riscv
sellers, bunnylabs etc)
Nothing is stopping them from making an OpenPOWER laptop since the
latest OpenPOWER9 code supports laptop level power saving but they say no.
People will but they're just paid shills so ignore them.
Sad how few people do that.