Stitch HDR pannorama with full sun exposure

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Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 27, 2023, 5:55:16 AM2/27/23
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HI 

Im trying to wrap my head around if its possible to stitch a 360 pannorama where I have a cpatured dataset utilizing a 10 stop ND filter to capture the full dunamic range coming from the sun. I shoot it like this, I have a Canon r5c and a ef to RF adapter with drop in filter. I start by pointing the 8-15mm lens towards the sun, ANd shoot with the 10 stop ND , 7 exposure with 2 stops apart. shortest time will be 8000s of a second, Geing down in time. The I shoot an identical set with a clear drop in filter. So I now have two sets with identical times and fstops but the first is using the 10 stop ND. If i bring this into ptgui Its interpreted as two individual images in HDR mode, Kind if expected as the metadata says so, I would like to be able to tell PTGUI that the two sets are in fact belonging to the same HDR set merging the full dynamic range from the sun. I tried linking images but then I lost the HDR capabilities. Ideally I woul like to say this set is using a ND so disregard the times in metadata and treat as iditional Fstops when merging. Is there a method that can accomodate this workflow or is it something I could request as a feature for new versions of ptgui to be able to get more dynamic range out of the HDRs . Im looking at this from a VFX perspective and in essence is mimicing the workflow found in this article from Weta.

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Feb 27, 2023, 6:07:37 AM2/27/23
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Hi Peter,

The easiest way to tell PTGui that an ND filter was used for some of the
images, is by adjusting the ISO value.

For a 10 stop ND filter, the ISO value would differ by a factor
2^10=1024. So use (for example) ISO 1024 for the images without filter,
and ISO 1 for the images with filter.

You can adjust this in the image parameters tab. Select multiple cells
in the ISO column and enter a value to change all in one go. You might
need to press the little triangle button in the Image Parameters tab if
the images are linked.

And you may need to link all images manually. In the Source Images tab,
select a group of bracketed images, right click, Link Selected Images.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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Feb 27, 2023, 6:11:33 AM2/27/23
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Am 26.02.23 um 20:50 schrieb Peter Aversten (strobegeek):

> So I now have two sets with identical times and fstops but the first
> is using the 10 stop ND.

You can edit the exposure settings on Image Parameters tab (advanced
interface). Enter a value for f-stop (f.e.) which would lead to the same
exposure without ND filter. You can also modify the exposure time or ISO
or several of them, provided you get the correct resulting EV value.

If you want PTGui to automatically link the images on loading, you would
need to change the exif data of the images beforehand, using f.e. exiftool.

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Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 27, 2023, 6:13:21 AM2/27/23
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THanks for the reply, I will test and see what happens,

Could I request a feature request If I have two datasets as I have in my case to be able to link them together to make the full HDR and be able to add an ND offset for the dataset that uses ND.  It would be much easier to stitch HDR for VFX to be able top create spherical HDR that captures the full intensity coming from the sun.

Erik Krause

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Feb 27, 2023, 6:13:45 AM2/27/23
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Am 27.02.23 um 12:07 schrieb 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support:

> So use (for example) ISO 1024 for the images without filter, and ISO 1
> for the images with filter.

Shouldn't it be the other way round? The ND-filter reduces sensitivity,
so with filter should have the lower value.

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Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 27, 2023, 6:22:42 AM2/27/23
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feel like it yes, I only get the dot of the sun in the 10 stop exposures really

Erik Krause

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Feb 27, 2023, 6:39:47 AM2/27/23
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Am 27.02.23 um 12:13 schrieb Erik Krause:
>> So use (for example) ISO 1024 for the images without filter, and ISO 1
>> for the images with filter.
>
> Shouldn't it be the other way round? The ND-filter reduces sensitivity,
> so with filter should have the lower value.

Sorry, it was already meant this way. I misread. Please disregard.

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Misho Ristov

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Feb 27, 2023, 1:16:03 PM2/27/23
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Hi,

It would be nice to have an override for the ISO, in stops, for these situations. Much easier, and UX friendly, than calculating it.

Mishio

Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 27, 2023, 1:44:04 PM2/27/23
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ND overides would be good, as im actually sticking a ND filter there physically, Also in extension if there was a nation of ND if it was profiled there could be a grade for the ND filter to accomodate for potential shift in color that the ND filter could have

Erik Krause

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Am 27.02.2023 um 19:15 schrieb Misho Ristov:

> It would be nice to have an override for the ISO, in stops, for these
> situations. Much easier, and UX friendly, than calculating it.

If you use ND-filters you have to calculate anyway. At least if you want
equal exposure steps between shots with and without filter.

You can control whether you put in the right ISO value in the EV column.
The EV difference between an image with and without ND filter and same
aperture and exposure is the value of the ND filter.

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Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 27, 2023, 3:24:11 PM2/27/23
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what I'm saying is If there was a notion of ND filter I would expect the ND factor to automatically recalculate the settings according to the ND strength supplied so I don't have to bring out the calculator :) call me lazy. I capture the ND sequence first starting at 8000th of a sec with two stop EV apart taking a total of 7 brackets, then I switch out the filter to a clea filter and take the same sequence. I will have a set of sun exposures with nd and the no ND for the "lower dynamic" dynamic range images. As its a 10 stop ND for the sun, I will have the two lowest stops for the ND sequence being identical to the two higest in the no filter series and I need to remove from the ND set. If I could till pt gui to "merge" the ND set with the non ND and tell the ND set what ND filter I used I would imagine the ND factor would be recalculating the ISO or whatever setting for the HDR merge to work properly.

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:27:53 AM2/28/23
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I'll add this to the wish list.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:10:59 PM2/28/23
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Im back at this, Im not sure what you mean advanced interface, I can not see ISO etc

Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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Feb 28, 2023, 2:39:45 PM2/28/23
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Here is a video explaining a bit more what I would like to see in the feature request dealing with ND overides for merging higher dynamic range datasets
https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg

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Am 28.02.2023 um 20:10 schrieb Peter Aversten (strobegeek):

> Im back at this, Im not sure what you mean advanced interface, I can not
> see ISO etc

You don't have these columns on Image Parameters tab? Or don't you see
the values? You would need to ungroup the images with the small triangle
in the leftmost column, to see the values.

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Hi Peter,

Thanks for your feedback.

For now, you can achieve what you need as follows:

- Load your images, but don't link the HDR exposures yet
- Click Advanced
- Go to Lens Settings
- Adjust the ISO column such that your ND images have ISO 1, and your
other images have ISO 1024. You can set multiple values at once by
selecting a range of cells and entering a value
- Now do Images -> Link HDR Bracketed exposures.

Now PTGui should have linked the non-ND and ND brackets together, so you
have sets of 20 (?) linked images.

Profiling ND filters is not possible currently, so this will only work
if your ND has exactly 10 stops reduction and no color cast.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

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> Here is a video explaining a bit more what I would like to see in the
> feature request dealing with ND overides for merging higher dynamic
> range datasets
> https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg
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> I'll add this to the wish list.
>
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No it does not really work as expected, I have 7 exposures 2 ev apart starting at 8000 going down in time. to 1/2 sec with ND and same without. as the ND has 10 stop I would need to remove 1/8 and 1/2 sec exposures from the ND sequence as they are idential to the 1/8000th and 1/2000 I have overlap in the sequence . I only have sun exposures for the Sun images. the rest where sun is not visible im only shooting the normal 1/8000th and down sequence. I did test but it complained that no hdr sets were found etc.

Peter Aversten (strobegeek)

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I could supply the dataset if you want to have a look at the sequence . let me know 

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Ah, I missed that last part, I thought you used the ND filter for all
frames.

In that case the exposure sequence is irregular, PTGui cannot link the
images for you automatically so you need to do this manually:

- Load your images, but don't link the HDR exposures yet
- Click Advanced
- Go to Lens Settings
- Adjust the ISO column such that your ND images have ISO 1, and your
other images have ISO 1024. You can set multiple values at once by
selecting a range of cells and entering a value
- Go to Source Images tab
- Select a series of bracketed images belonging together (for the sun
frame this should include both the images with and without ND filter)
- Right click, 'Link Selected Images'
- Repeat until all bracketed sets are linked
- Go to Exposure/HDR and choose Precision: Float (see the tooltip for
more information)

Finally, run Align Images and proceed like any other HDR panorama.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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> > range datasets
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Hi, just wanted to poke this old topic as it is quite useful workflow for VFX production.

Would it be possible to streamline this workflow? like maybe automatically mark ND filtered photos ?

Cheers!

Misho Ristov

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Hi,
+1 on this!
It would be nice to have a column in the Image Parameters page to enter a ND value, to act as a ISO multiplier. It’ll make things easier for super high range images.

Misho

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Yes it's on the wish list. Currently the ISO trick is still the way to go.

For my understanding though: adding a separate ND column would not
significantly reduce the amount of work, wouldn't it?

Kind regards,

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It would make it more clear visually, especially for vfx workflows where we not down every aspect how a image was captured to be able to easily tag nd offsets to a data set. And also for a not so technical person tasked with merging a panorama with full exposure dataset it could be easier to just specify nd value rather than taking out the calculator figuring out the iso offset when the images was marked having nd offset


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Ok, I understand.

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On 07-05-2024 10:07, Peter Aversten wrote:
> It would make it more clear visually, especially for vfx workflows where
> we not down every aspect how a image was captured to be able to easily
> tag nd offsets to a data set. And also for a not so technical person
> tasked with merging a panorama with full exposure dataset it could be
> easier to just specify nd value rather than taking out the calculator
> figuring out the iso offset when the images was marked having nd offset
>
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> On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 09:02, 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
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> Yes it's on the wish list. Currently the ISO trick is still the way
> to go.
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> For my understanding though: adding a separate ND column would not
> significantly reduce the amount of work, wouldn't it?
>
> Kind regards,
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> On 07-05-2024 09:22, Misho Ristov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > +1 on this!
> > It would be nice to have a column in the Image Parameters page to
> enter
> > a ND value, to act as a ISO multiplier. It’ll make things easier for
> > super high range images.
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> > Misho
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> >>     > the
> >>     > > feature request dealing with ND overides for merging higher
> >>     dynamic
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Ideally, I would love to make a template out of this workflow or even python script it (if possible?). But as I understand, we are unable, mostly due to this work-around.

Thank you in advance!
Albert

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Yes you're right, doing this from a template is not possible because the
ISO values will be overridden by the actual ISO values from the image
metadata. Good point.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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>> >>     > the
>> >>     > > feature request dealing with ND overides for
>> merging higher
>> >>     dynamic
>> >>     > > range datasets
>> >>     > >https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg
>> <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>
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Hi, do we have any changes, updates to this workflow with PTGui v13 ?
Do we still need to change the ISO values as you suggested before for the set with the ND filter ?

Thanks, 
Albert

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Hi Albert,

Yes, this hasn't changed (yet). For ND filters you'll need to adjust the
ISO values.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 10-12-2024 00:35, 'tm...@icloud.com' via PTGui Support wrote:
> Hi, do we have any changes, updates to this workflow with PTGui v13 ?
> Do we still need to change the ISO values as you suggested before for
> the set with the ND filter ?
>
> Thanks,
> Albert
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-7 PTGui Support wrote:
>
> Yes you're right, doing this from a template is not possible because
> the
> ISO values will be overridden by the actual ISO values from the image
> metadata. Good point.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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> >> <http://www.ptgui.com/ <http://www.ptgui.com/>
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> >> <http://www.ptgui.com/ <http://www.ptgui.com/>>
> >> >>     <http://www.ptgui.com/ <http://www.ptgui.com/> <http://
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> >> >>     >
> >> >>     > On 2/28/23 20:39, Peter Aversten (strobegeek) wrote:
> >> >>     > > Here is a video explaining a bit more what I would
> >> like to see in
> >> >>     > the
> >> >>     > > feature request dealing with ND overides for
> >> merging higher
> >> >>     dynamic
> >> >>     > > range datasets
> >> >>     > >https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/
> y3RAlMfS3wg>
> >> <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>>
> >> >>     <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>
> >> <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/
> y3RAlMfS3wg>>><https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/
> y3RAlMfS3wg>
> >> <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>>
> >> >>     <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>
> >> <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg <https://youtu.be/y3RAlMfS3wg>>>>
> >> >>     > >
> >> >>     > > On Tuesday, 28 February 2023 at 07:27:53 UTC PTGui
> >> Support wrote:
> >> >>     > >
> >> >>     > > I'll add this to the wish list.
> >> >>     > >
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> >> >>     > >
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