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Roger Ewing

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Mar 7, 2018, 4:52:45 PM3/7/18
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A while ago I was having occasional photos come  out sideways from the camera. The answer was turn off auto rotate.

Now the images are displaying correctly on my computer, but when I load them into PTGUI, they are coming in upside down. Well, I'll put it this way: In the opening screen they look upside down, but in the source screen they do not look upside down. 

They are not getting control points for stitching when I align.

Any thoughts?



John Houghton

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Mar 7, 2018, 5:16:20 PM3/7/18
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Is this with PTGui V10 or V11?  Have the shots been taken with the camera held in portrait orientation? Have the images been rotated in raw conversion to tiff or in Photoshop prior to input to PTGui?  Have you tried using the rotate arrows on the Project Assistant tab to get the images into the wanted orientation? (This won't affect the thumbnails on the Source Images tab). Are the lens details on the Lens Settings tab correct?

John 

Roger Ewing

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Mar 7, 2018, 5:54:30 PM3/7/18
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Is this with PTGui V10 or V11?  V 10.0.17
 
Have the shots been taken with the camera held in portrait orientation?  It is in portrait orientation on a rotator. I don't think it should make any difference...but the input side  of the camera was down. So I changed it to the memory side of the camera to be down. Now it is loading the pictures looking fine, but after I do the align and creation, the images end up sideways in the project assistant, and the pano comes out with what should be the bottom of the picture oriented as looking forward. Goofy pano. JFYI...I have taken quite a lot of panos successfully, even since turning off the auto rotate function. What has changed? I don't know, but what has transpired is I took the camera off the rotator, changed lenses and have been doing some HDR wide angle shots. I put it back together on the rotator today, and having this problem.
 
Have the images been rotated in raw conversion to tiff or in Photoshop prior to input to PTGui? Images are shot in RAW (Canon), group of 6 for HDR. Stacked into HDR via Photomatix. The look find on the drive when finished. Oh, the HDR output is TIF.
 
Have you tried using the rotate arrows on the Project Assistant tab to get the images into the wanted orientation? I hadn't realized / noticed those rotate arrows. Again, at this point, the images look correct when I first load, but 4 of 5 end up on their side after stitch, and the stich is all messed up. I just tried the rotate arrows, and it's goofy. The 4 on their side remain on their side, but you can tell that the content of the picture is rotating. The end one that is vertical changes from vertical to horizontal as I hit the rotate buttons.
 
(This won't affect the thumbnails on the Source Images tab). Are the lens details on the Lens Settings tab correct? I'm honestly not sure, as I don't know what they should be. I'll list my lens, and what the settings show:


Printscreen of Lens Settings in attached file

I may try turning on the auto rotate in teh camera again and see what happens.

John...I appreciate your input and help.

Settings: 

John 
LensSettings.jpg
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Roger Ewing

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Mar 7, 2018, 9:37:34 PM3/7/18
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Well, maybe I have it figured out.

On the photo from the start of the post, I'm not sure why, but I started over, and it came out good.

I had a lot of problems working on teh next room, made some posts...but have deleted them. I think my problem on the second room was fixed by re-reading the questions you asked me, and I found it didn't have the lens set to Fisheye.

Thanks John. 

John Houghton

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Mar 8, 2018, 3:13:02 AM3/8/18
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On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:37:34 AM UTC, Roger Ewing wrote:

Well, maybe I have it figured out.

On the photo from the start of the post, I'm not sure why, but I started over, and it came out good.

I had a lot of problems working on teh next room, made some posts...but have deleted them. I think my problem on the second room was fixed by re-reading the questions you asked me, and I found it didn't have the lens set to Fisheye.

Roger, Don't take too much notice of the orientations of the images as displayed on the Project Assistant tab.  They merely represent the orientations of the individual images as they appear in the current output panorama area.  The rotate arrows on the Project Assistant rotate the entire composite panorama in steps of 90 degrees in the output area. The same can be accomplished by rolling the panorama image with the numerical transform tool, or indeed by dragging the panorama in the Panorama Editor window.  If the panorama happens to end up upside down for any reason, simply use the rotate arrows on the Project Assistant tab to turn it right way up.

John

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Mar 8, 2018, 4:11:01 AM3/8/18
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Hi Roger,

You might want to try PTGui 11:
www.ptgui.com/beta

It has a built in lens profile for the Samyang/Bower 8mm f/3.5 lens. I
did a quick test with your images and it came out right automatically.

PTGui 10 has some difficulties with this lens due to the special
projection. You can make it work but it requires some manual intervention.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com
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