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Alex Jordan
Jun 15, 2026, 12:02:35 AM (6 days ago) Jun 15
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Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
The second paragraph "If you use..." has lines spaced a certain distance apart. Namely 1.35 for line-height.
The first paragraph has lines spaced further apart. This is partly because of the MathJax n and n-1. But also there is different spacing between the first line and second line, where there is no math. In those top lines, the border of the code elements is increasing the height.
The third paragraph has even more irregular line spacing, because of the specially typeset E in LaTeX.
Maybe all this is just par for the course for reading HTML. Line height won't be regular. But it seems wrong for the "n" and "n-1", which are not actually taking more vertical space than regular letters in the sentence, to cause this disruption in the cadence of the lines. Is it possible to reduce the disruptions? Particularly for inline math that is not actually too tall for a line?
Rob Beezer
Jun 15, 2026, 9:57:14 AM (5 days ago) Jun 15
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Can't really dig in too much right now, but the MathJax config once had a scale
factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have you found an
experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are unavoidable, I
think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
Rob
On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> Subsection 7.2: Displayed Mathematics <https://pretextbook.org/examples/sample-
> article/html/section-mathematics.html#section-mathematics-4>
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factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have you found an
experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are unavoidable, I
think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
Rob
On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> article/html/section-mathematics.html#section-mathematics-4>
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Andrew Scholer
Jun 15, 2026, 11:31:24 AM (5 days ago) Jun 15
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LaTeX looks like an easy change.
mjx-container {
line-height: 0;
}
MathJax might be an easy fix... it looks like MJ3 had a line-height 0 on .mjx-container. MJ4 does not. Adding that back appears to have the desired effect. But, that is a change that was made in MathJax. Was it made to accommodate some other change? Are there situations in which setting line-height 0 would cause overlap? If someone wants to exhaustively test, just add some custom CSS with:
mjx-container {
line-height: 0;
}
The other spacing issue is coming from the "code" blocks. The padding/border on them causes them to take up more vertical space. Forcing them not to leads to a bit of crowding when consecutive lines both contain blocks:
But that is probably better than the current behavior.
I can PR LaTeX and code blocks if desired. I can envision more ways for MathJax spacing to go wrong, so would prefer to have someone do some testing on that one and report back.
Andrew
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Alex Jordan
Jun 15, 2026, 1:31:49 PM (5 days ago) Jun 15
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Not exhaustive testing, but here is a before shot, where I put a tall inline matrix:
And here is an after shot (after adding that additional CSS):
I don't detect any difference where the matrix is. Down in the second paragraph the "2.6" bits of math make an impact, and the added CSS improves things.
FWIW, I also doctored things so that one line of the paragraph would be only inline math content. Just in case setting that CSS to zero would collapse the entire line. But it did not.
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Rob Beezer
Jun 16, 2026, 7:49:52 AM (4 days ago) Jun 16
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My eye is not so tuned in to these small differences, but I can sorta see when I
look hard. It'd be good to do a careful look through some of the "paragraph
level" markup in the sample article, there are some crazy constructions.
1. Might we reduce the margin/padding around the inline #c snippets? I think
we have messed with this before. I see this presentation often other places,
but I can't say I am a huge fan - its very busy when there is a lot of it. Are
there alternatives folks like? Is just a bit of monospace not enough? (That's
the LaTeX treatment I guess.)
2. Does the math "2.6" look a bit big to anybody else? It'd be interesting to
see a "regular" 2.6 close by. Im pretty sure we had something like an 85% scale
factor in the MJ config a long time ago (its in the git history somewhere!).
Rob
On 6/15/26 10:31, Alex Jordan wrote:
> Not exhaustive testing, but here is a before shot, where I put a tall inline matrix:
>
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look hard. It'd be good to do a careful look through some of the "paragraph
level" markup in the sample article, there are some crazy constructions.
1. Might we reduce the margin/padding around the inline #c snippets? I think
we have messed with this before. I see this presentation often other places,
but I can't say I am a huge fan - its very busy when there is a lot of it. Are
there alternatives folks like? Is just a bit of monospace not enough? (That's
the LaTeX treatment I guess.)
2. Does the math "2.6" look a bit big to anybody else? It'd be interesting to
see a "regular" 2.6 close by. Im pretty sure we had something like an 85% scale
factor in the MJ config a long time ago (its in the git history somewhere!).
Rob
On 6/15/26 10:31, Alex Jordan wrote:
> Not exhaustive testing, but here is a before shot, where I put a tall inline matrix:
>
> Screenshot 2026-06-15 at 10.25.12 AM.png
>
>
> And here is an after shot (after adding that additional CSS):
>
>
>
> And here is an after shot (after adding that additional CSS):
>
> Screenshot 2026-06-15 at 10.24.58 AM.png
>
> I don't detect any difference where the matrix is. Down in the second paragraph
> the "2.6" bits of math make an impact, and the added CSS improves things.
>
>
> FWIW, I also doctored things so that one line of the paragraph would be only
> inline math content. Just in case setting that CSS to zero would collapse the
> entire line. But it did not.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 8:31 AM Andrew Scholer <asch...@chemeketa.edu
> <mailto:asch...@chemeketa.edu>> wrote:
>
> LaTeX looks like an easy change.
>
>
> MathJax might be an easy fix... it looks like MJ3 had a line-height 0
> on .mjx-container. MJ4 does not. Adding that back appears to have the
> desired effect. But, that is a change that was made in MathJax. Was it made
> to accommodate some other change? Are there situations in which setting
> line-height 0 would cause overlap? If someone wants to exhaustively test,
> just add some custom CSS with:
>
> mjx-container {
> line-height: 0;
> }
>
>
> The other spacing issue is coming from the "code" blocks. The padding/border
> on them causes them to take up more vertical space. Forcing them not to
> leads to a bit of crowding when consecutive lines both contain blocks:
>
> I don't detect any difference where the matrix is. Down in the second paragraph
> the "2.6" bits of math make an impact, and the added CSS improves things.
>
>
> FWIW, I also doctored things so that one line of the paragraph would be only
> inline math content. Just in case setting that CSS to zero would collapse the
> entire line. But it did not.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 8:31 AM Andrew Scholer <asch...@chemeketa.edu
> <mailto:asch...@chemeketa.edu>> wrote:
>
> LaTeX looks like an easy change.
>
>
> MathJax might be an easy fix... it looks like MJ3 had a line-height 0
> on .mjx-container. MJ4 does not. Adding that back appears to have the
> desired effect. But, that is a change that was made in MathJax. Was it made
> to accommodate some other change? Are there situations in which setting
> line-height 0 would cause overlap? If someone wants to exhaustively test,
> just add some custom CSS with:
>
> mjx-container {
> line-height: 0;
> }
>
>
> The other spacing issue is coming from the "code" blocks. The padding/border
> on them causes them to take up more vertical space. Forcing them not to
> leads to a bit of crowding when consecutive lines both contain blocks:
> image.png
>
> But that is probably better than the current behavior.
>
>
> I can PR LaTeX and code blocks if desired. I can envision more ways for
> MathJax spacing to go wrong, so would prefer to have someone do some testing
> on that one and report back.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 6:57 AM 'Rob Beezer' via PreTeXt development
> <prete...@googlegroups.com <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Can't really dig in too much right now, but the MathJax config once had
> a scale
> factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have you found an
> experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are unavoidable, I
> think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
>
> Rob
>
> On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> > Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> > Subsection 7.2: Displayed Mathematics <https://pretextbook.org/
> examples/sample- <https://pretextbook.org/examples/sample->
>
> But that is probably better than the current behavior.
>
>
> I can PR LaTeX and code blocks if desired. I can envision more ways for
> MathJax spacing to go wrong, so would prefer to have someone do some testing
> on that one and report back.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 6:57 AM 'Rob Beezer' via PreTeXt development
> <prete...@googlegroups.com <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Can't really dig in too much right now, but the MathJax config once had
> a scale
> factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have you found an
> experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are unavoidable, I
> think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
>
> Rob
>
> On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> > Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> > Subsection 7.2: Displayed Mathematics <https://pretextbook.org/
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Sean Fitzpatrick
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The 2.6 does look big, and the highlight boxes around code seem taller than needed. But maybe a shorter box would cause trouble if the code had capital letters.
Unlikely to be the solution you want, but would this go away is the regular line spacing was 1.5?
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Andrew Scholer
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Agree that we could get by with less padding within <c> elements. And the border adds a lot of visual weight that can get distracting. Trimming those out gives:
I think formatted program fragments still need a border. Compare:
To:
not MathJax / normal (118.7%) / 100% / 110%
To my eye, 110% would be nice.
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Rob Beezer
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Many (all?) of the suggestions here addressed by Andrew S (thanks, Andrew!). He
can elaborate, if necessary.
https://github.com/PreTeXtBook/pretext/pull/2931
On 6/16/26 05:14, Sean Fitzpatrick wrote:
> The 2.6 does look big, and the highlight boxes around code seem taller than
> needed. But maybe a shorter box would cause trouble if the code had capital
> letters.
>
> Unlikely to be the solution you want, but would this go away is the regular line
> spacing was 1.5?
>
> > dev%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:dev%252Buns...@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:pretext-
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can elaborate, if necessary.
https://github.com/PreTeXtBook/pretext/pull/2931
On 6/16/26 05:14, Sean Fitzpatrick wrote:
> The 2.6 does look big, and the highlight boxes around code seem taller than
> needed. But maybe a shorter box would cause trouble if the code had capital
> letters.
>
> Unlikely to be the solution you want, but would this go away is the regular line
> spacing was 1.5?
>
> > <mailto:asch...@chemeketa.edu <mailto:asch...@chemeketa.edu>>> wrote:
> >
> > LaTeX looks like an easy change.
> >
> >
> > MathJax might be an easy fix... it looks like MJ3 had a line-height 0
> > on .mjx-container. MJ4 does not. Adding that back appears to have the
> > desired effect. But, that is a change that was made in MathJax. Was
> it made
> > to accommodate some other change? Are there situations in which setting
> > line-height 0 would cause overlap? If someone wants to exhaustively test,
> > just add some custom CSS with:
> >
> > mjx-container {
> > line-height: 0;
> > }
> >
> >
> > The other spacing issue is coming from the "code" blocks. The
> padding/border
> > on them causes them to take up more vertical space. Forcing them not to
> > leads to a bit of crowding when consecutive lines both contain blocks:
> > image.png
> >
> > But that is probably better than the current behavior.
> >
> >
> > I can PR LaTeX and code blocks if desired. I can envision more ways for
> > MathJax spacing to go wrong, so would prefer to have someone do some
> testing
> > on that one and report back.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 6:57 AM 'Rob Beezer' via PreTeXt development
> > <prete...@googlegroups.com <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com>
> <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com>>>
> >
> > LaTeX looks like an easy change.
> >
> >
> > MathJax might be an easy fix... it looks like MJ3 had a line-height 0
> > on .mjx-container. MJ4 does not. Adding that back appears to have the
> > desired effect. But, that is a change that was made in MathJax. Was
> it made
> > to accommodate some other change? Are there situations in which setting
> > line-height 0 would cause overlap? If someone wants to exhaustively test,
> > just add some custom CSS with:
> >
> > mjx-container {
> > line-height: 0;
> > }
> >
> >
> > The other spacing issue is coming from the "code" blocks. The
> padding/border
> > on them causes them to take up more vertical space. Forcing them not to
> > leads to a bit of crowding when consecutive lines both contain blocks:
> > image.png
> >
> > But that is probably better than the current behavior.
> >
> >
> > I can PR LaTeX and code blocks if desired. I can envision more ways for
> > MathJax spacing to go wrong, so would prefer to have someone do some
> testing
> > on that one and report back.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 6:57 AM 'Rob Beezer' via PreTeXt development
> > <prete...@googlegroups.com <mailto:prete...@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Can't really dig in too much right now, but the MathJax config
> once had
> > a scale
> > factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have
> you found an
> > experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are
> unavoidable, I
> > think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> > > Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> > > Subsection 7.2: Displayed Mathematics <https://
> pretextbook.org/ <https://pretextbook.org/>
> >
> > Can't really dig in too much right now, but the MathJax config
> once had
> > a scale
> > factor for the math. Maybe that explains the n and n-1? Have
> you found an
> > experimental solution to that situation? Some of these are
> unavoidable, I
> > think, like the dropped E in LaTeX.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On 6/14/26 21:02, Alex Jordan wrote:
> > > Consider the lines in the paragraphs here:
> > > Subsection 7.2: Displayed Mathematics <https://
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> <mailto:pretext-> <mailto:pretext- <mailto:pretext->>
> > > dev+uns...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:dev%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>
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