Easiest/best way to shut down the pidp11 system

[Neil Higgins]

One way:
(A) exit to simh and then quit
(B) locate the server11 program and kill it

Is there an all-in-one way?

Or do we now have a fancy systemctl-based approach?

TIA,
Neil

[Oscar Vermeulen]

Neil,

The intended way: there's a  'hidden' switch combination of depressing the HALT switch and pushing the Address knob. This will effectively issue the equivalent of a "sudo shutdown -h now" command. You should wait 15 seconds more before cutting power. Note that you can optionally connect the key switch to take over this function, see here.

Kind regards,

Oscar.

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[Neil Higgins]

Err ... I just want the PiDP-11-specific “suite“ (“system” was a poor choice of word - “application system,” perhaps) shut down, but Linux stll running.

[Oscar Vermeulen]

Ah - CTRL-E, exit would be what I do.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 01:01, Neil Higgins <1955...@gmail.com> wrote:

Err ... I just want the PiDP-11-specific “suite“ (“system” was a poor choice of word - “application system,” perhaps) shut down, but Linux stll running.

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[Neil Higgins]

Does that shut down the blinkenlight server as well? I need that shut down too.

[Ron Pool]

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 7:01:26 PM UTC-4, Neil Higgins wrote:

Err ... I just want the PiDP-11-specific “suite“ (“system” was a poor choice of word - “application system,” perhaps) shut down, but Linux stll running.

Best practice for that would be to first shut down any PDP-11 operating system running in the emulator.  For example, for RSX-11M-PLUS or RSTS/E, you'd login as [1,2] then RUN $SHUTUP.  After the PDP-11 OS has finished shutting down, type a Control-E to get to the SIMH prompt, then type EXIT (or exit) at which point you should be back at a Linux shell prompt.

[Neil Higgins]

Please forgive me for being pedantic ...

As I understand it, there are TWO progams in the suite - the Blinkenbone version of simh (as client); and the PiDP-11 implementation of a Blinkenbone “blinkenlights” server. The Blinkenbone architecture seems to admit a larger array of components for various purposes, but I think Oscar has kept it mercifully simple (although the term ”realcons” has popped up in discussions, and I’m not sure if that is something else again, or just a machine-specific part of the client).

I want to shut down BOTH programs, at once preferably, and I’m asking if there is a mechanism for that.

[Johnny Billquist]

Maybe a little more ordered shutdown is appropriate? :-)
Under RSX, "RUN SHUTUP" assuming SHUTUP has been installed, which it
usually is, otherwise "RUN $SHUTUP". Once back at the simh prompt, just
exit.

Johnny

On 2018-07-27 01:30, Oscar Vermeulen wrote:
> Ah - CTRL-E, exit would be what I do.
>
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> Linux stll running.
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[Johnny Billquist]

It's probably [1,54] under RSX, but any privileged account is fine.
And simh will already give the prompt when the OS have completed
shutting down, at least from RSX, so no need for ^E.

Johnny

[Neil Higgins]

Ok, so I killed off simh (^E, exit) and the server11 process disappeared as well. Presumably the client sends a shutdown request to the server on its way out..