Sure at first with simple systems, its "self" is easy to distinguish, its body, its host machine, etc. But as we drive integration, the lines could easily blur, especially as it develops new methods of interacting with the world. E. g. if it matched patterns in markets and learned to create accounts to link into market APIs which it directly interacted with, then one could argue that that integration system it developed and uses is a part of its "self." If it were able to match market patterns well enough to get high accuracy and control, that could arguably be considered an extension of "self."
With a system built on the concepts opencogprime is, yes there is an incredible cleanliness and simplicity to it, but a lot of our human concepts don't apply cleanly.
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For your reading pleasure, here is version 0.02 of the document. It details the language processing pipeline. Please review, as it sets the stage for the next installment.Please keep in mind that this document is describing the current code base, and will be raising design issues for the near-short-term design+implementation. As such, it is only philosophical or metaphysical to the point of how that affects specific design decisions.Please keep in mind that the current code base *actually works*, and, on a good day, can be demoed.If there are any questions, or any parts that are unclear, or vague, or obtuse, or seem to involve stupid design decisions, please raise these as issues. I'll try to fix them.--linas
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Ed Pell <edp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Noah, All, evolution gives humans and other living things many pre-canned functions like edge detectors in the eye. In vision system some people add the early edge detectors and some ask the blank slate to figure everything out for itself from scratch. My preference is to give the system as much of a leg up as possible. Later when we have functioning system we can explore the growth from blank slate question.
Self and not-self is a very early learning. I am that which I can control the movement of. The other is the warm, soft, and giving entity (Mom and Dad). The other becomes the family. Then strangers are discerned and apparently rated as dangerous instinctively, then learned as safe and not-safe strangers.
If we want to be experimental psychologists we can force the system to learn these early lesson from scratch. If we want a functioning embodied conversationalist in a reasonable amount of time then let's give it a head start. Both are valid pursuits. We have to pick one to start with.
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Thanks Linas,that is extremely helpful. Can't wait for 0.03 :-)