whats the life of the Burroughs HB-106

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Jasper nagle

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Apr 5, 2024, 9:45:47 PM4/5/24
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i picked 9 of these up for $90 $10 a pcs for A clock project, and iv'e tried searching all the data sheets about them the most i can find is one stating long life, but long life in 1955 i would assume wouldn't compare well to like a 1960 one ?

J Forbes

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Apr 5, 2024, 10:27:37 PM4/5/24
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70 years, so far....

Peter Hall

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Apr 5, 2024, 10:37:52 PM4/5/24
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The Tube that started "Nixie"....Yes???.Please delete if ive done,wrong , copy and pasteing,ect

HB-106

The HB-106 is many firsts:

  • It is the first modern Nixie tube.Unlike previous tubes from National Union, this tube has an anode grid that makes driving the tubes much easier and more reliable.
  • It is the first tube with the B13B base, which was subsequently used by many tubes made in many countries.
  • It is the tube that defined the word ‘Nixie’, which was a trademark of the Burroughs corporation.
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i picked 9 of these up for $90 $10 a pcs for A clock project, and iv'e tried searching all the data sheets about them the most i can find is one stating long life, but long life in 1955 i would assume wouldn't compare well to like a 1960 one ?

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Peter Hall

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Apr 5, 2024, 10:40:18 PM4/5/24
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Sorry you were Burrows,thi s was National.

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David

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Apr 5, 2024, 10:55:39 PM4/5/24
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The truly long-life tubes had mercury added. If you see a hazy purple glow when the tube is lit, it's long life. Solid orange is not so long life.


David Forbes, Tucson AZ

> On Apr 5, 2024, at 6:45 PM, Jasper nagle <jaspern...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> i picked 9 of these up for $90 $10 a pcs for A clock project, and iv'e tried searching all the data sheets about them the most i can find is one stating long life, but long life in 1955 i would assume wouldn't compare well to like a 1960 one ?

liam bartosiewicz

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Apr 6, 2024, 12:31:49 AM4/6/24
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Fairly certain that all HB-106’s are standard life. You could probably get somewhere around 10,000 hours with a “new” one.

> On Apr 5, 2024, at 7:55 PM, David <nixie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The truly long-life tubes had mercury added. If you see a hazy purple glow when the tube is lit, it's long life. Solid orange is not so long life.
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> David Forbes, Tucson AZ
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>> i picked 9 of these up for $90 $10 a pcs for A clock project, and iv'e tried searching all the data sheets about them the most i can find is one stating long life, but long life in 1955 i would assume wouldn't compare well to like a 1960 one ?
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gregebert

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Apr 6, 2024, 12:08:35 PM4/6/24
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Ever since I got a clearly marked 5031 nixie, I assumed the others with the same shape with no visible marking were also 5031's but there apparently are other numbers such as 6844 and HB-106.

I too have several dead ones, and I often wondered if they had been circulating in Ebay-land as untested devices. I knew the risk when I bought them.

I have tried to rehab them, with zero success. The ones that are dark cant be coaxed to glow even at 500 volts; others have partially-glowing cathodes or glowing only on the bondwires. As best I can tell, the gas is compromised. I suspect that since these were early-production devices the glass-to-metal seal was not nearly as good as later devices. A few have darkened interiors, which is probably sputtered material due to a lack of mercury; of those, some still have a slight orange glow.

In hindsight, I should have tried zapping them in a discarded microwave oven I found last week, just to see if anything is in there. BTW, there were a few things I scrapped from the microwave, but I made sure the deadly MOT was recycled.

Paul Andrews

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Apr 8, 2024, 9:23:04 AM4/8/24
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I wouldn't use the HB-106 in a clock - no mercury so it will darken pretty rapidly, like in maybe 6 months.

The other similarly shaped ones (e.g. 6844A) are junk in my opinion. Never got one to reliably light up. Greg, I did put one in a microwave for about a second - it definitely glowed then lol, but was still useless after I got it out (though no worse than when it went in).

Nick Andrews

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Apr 8, 2024, 1:13:30 PM4/8/24
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Don't waste MOTs!  They are getting hard to find and are quite useful.   You can use them for hv power supplies,  spot welders,  etc. 

Jasper nagle

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Apr 9, 2024, 4:07:37 AM4/9/24
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Alright I’m glad to hear I should be at least able to get a couple thousand hours out of them, thanks everyone for the replies I’m glad to hear there is a lot of respect for these nixies.
Sincerely Jasper 

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