problem with retention time

[Sdk 25k]

Hello, thank you for this great program! it worked wonderfully until recently I got strange problem: no matter what I choose, next repetition of a card will be postponed for a very long time. Thus, a card I repeated a month ago, if I ask the program to remind me this card  earlier ("2" or "3"), the card will be scheduled in a few months. No matter what I choose (2-5) next repetition will be after a longer time than the previous one. It wasn't so until recently. Please help！

[Peter Bienstman]

Hi,

 

Intervals always increase if you give cards a grade 2 or higher. This has been a feature of the SM2 algorithm ever since it was introduced a few decades ago. That’s one of the ways SM2 manages your workload.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

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[Sdk 25k]

That is interesting! Thank you. But it says "interval was probably too long" in the description of button "3". It sounds as a contradiction to the real meaning of this button, since "3" will make "too long" interval longer.

вторник, 15 августа 2017 г., 10:01:33 UTC+3 пользователь Peter Bienstman написал:

Hi,

 

Intervals always increase if you give cards a grade 2 or higher. This has been a feature of the SM2 algorithm ever since it was introduced a few decades ago. That’s one of the ways SM2 manages your workload.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

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Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] problem with retention time

 

Hello, thank you for this great program! it worked wonderfully until recently I got strange problem: no matter what I choose, next repetition of a card will be postponed for a very long time. Thus, a card I repeated a month ago, if I ask the program to remind me this card  earlier ("2" or "3"), the card will be scheduled in a few months. No matter what I choose (2-5) next repetition will be after a longer time than the previous one. It wasn't so until recently. Please help！

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[Peter Bienstman]

I agree, but there’s only so much text you can put in a tooltip…

 

Peter

 

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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] problem with retention time

 

That is interesting! Thank you. But it says "interval was probably too long" in the description of button "3". It sounds as a contradiction to the real meaning of this button, since "3" will make "too long" interval longer.

вторник, 15 августа 2017 г., 10:01:33 UTC+3 пользователь Peter Bienstman написал:

Hi,

 

Intervals always increase if you give cards a grade 2 or higher. This has been a feature of the SM2 algorithm ever since it was introduced a few decades ago. That’s one of the ways SM2 manages your workload.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

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Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] problem with retention time

 

Hello, thank you for this great program! it worked wonderfully until recently I got strange problem: no matter what I choose, next repetition of a card will be postponed for a very long time. Thus, a card I repeated a month ago, if I ask the program to remind me this card  earlier ("2" or "3"), the card will be scheduled in a few months. No matter what I choose (2-5) next repetition will be after a longer time than the previous one. It wasn't so until recently. Please help！

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[Sdk 25k]

What if use such tooltips: 2 - "this card was extremely hard"; 3 - "this card was hard";  4 - "this card wasn't hard"; 5 - "this card was easy"? Or something like this, with no reference to the time interval, just subjective feeling of the user about the card.

вторник, 15 августа 2017 г., 10:34:11 UTC+3 пользователь Peter Bienstman написал:

I agree, but there’s only so much text you can put in a tooltip…

 

Peter

 

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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] problem with retention time

 

That is interesting! Thank you. But it says "interval was probably too long" in the description of button "3". It sounds as a contradiction to the real meaning of this button, since "3" will make "too long" interval longer.

вторник, 15 августа 2017 г., 10:01:33 UTC+3 пользователь Peter Bienstman написал:

Hi,

 

Intervals always increase if you give cards a grade 2 or higher. This has been a feature of the SM2 algorithm ever since it was introduced a few decades ago. That’s one of the ways SM2 manages your workload.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter

 

From: mnemosyne-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mnemosyne-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sdk 25k
Sent: 14 August 2017 10:09
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Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] problem with retention time

 

Hello, thank you for this great program! it worked wonderfully until recently I got strange problem: no matter what I choose, next repetition of a card will be postponed for a very long time. Thus, a card I repeated a month ago, if I ask the program to remind me this card  earlier ("2" or "3"), the card will be scheduled in a few months. No matter what I choose (2-5) next repetition will be after a longer time than the previous one. It wasn't so until recently. Please help！

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[Peter Bienstman]

I do want to keep a reference to the interval length there, and not just subjective ‘hard’, ‘easy’.

 

Note that ‘the interval was too long’ does not make any explicit promises to the user that the next interval will be shorter, it’s just a way for the user to indicate that the *previous* interval was too long.

 

So, strictly speaking, there’s no contradiction in the tooltips J

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[t.pij...@gmail.com]

A question relating to this; if cards are accidentally rated too high, how can I change it so it’ll appear sooner than 2.3 years (as it is stated now)?
Thanks a lot!

[Peter Bienstman]

Short of manually editing the database, not a lot, unless you want to recreate a new card with the same contents and delete the original card.

Cheers,

Peter

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[t.pij...@gmail.com]

Thank you for your quick reply.
How do I manually edit the database?

Thanks again,
Cheers!

[Peter Bienstman]

By using any sqlite editor. I really would not recommend it though, it's easy to mess things up and if you use syncing, the change will not be propagated to your other devices.

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[t.pij...@gmail.com]

Hi Peter,

Thanks, I will reconsider editing then ;).
Is there a way to delete all card ratings? As I will be going through my card set a few times anyway in the coming month I don't mind starting all over. It will be less time consuming than recreating all wrongly 5-rated cards again.

This is also very useful as I will be handing my card set over to fellow students next year, that want to start from 0 again of course.

Thank you!

Cheers

[Peter Bienstman]

You can export your active cards into a *.cards file and then reimport them in a fresh database (or after deleting the original cards).

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[t.pij...@gmail.com]

That worked!! Thanks so much!!
:):)
Cheers