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Mert Ozer
Jan 24, 2026, 3:01:50 PMJan 24
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I had added logic keyboard commands website to my bookmarks and it was vern helpful to check there instead of dealing with logic's own keyboard commands section, but now it says page not found; is there a way to bring that back? Thank you!
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TheOreoMonster
Jan 24, 2026, 3:16:55 PMJan 24
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Interesting, I find it way easier to not have to leave Logic Pro to refresh my memory on a key command than to pull up a web browser, page bookmarked or not. What was it you found easier than opening the key commands dialog? How were you searching through the long list of key commands on that page to find what you wanted? Just curious as this may assist me in figuring out how to best present that info in the future.
The page as it was laid out became a lot to keep up with and maintain and as such had fallen out of date. Given not a lot of people were using it along with being able to look up key commands from with in Logic, it didn’t seem to be worth the effort to maintain. I have been toying with a few ideas on how to best put that back out there but I am also interested to hear what you liked about it better as well.
Steve
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> I had added logic keyboard commands website to my bookmarks and it was vern helpful to check there instead of dealing with logic's own keyboard commands section, but now it says page not found; is there a way to bring that back? Thank you!
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The page as it was laid out became a lot to keep up with and maintain and as such had fallen out of date. Given not a lot of people were using it along with being able to look up key commands from with in Logic, it didn’t seem to be worth the effort to maintain. I have been toying with a few ideas on how to best put that back out there but I am also interested to hear what you liked about it better as well.
Steve
> On Jan 24, 2026, at 12:01 PM, Mert Ozer <ozerm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I had added logic keyboard commands website to my bookmarks and it was vern helpful to check there instead of dealing with logic's own keyboard commands section, but now it says page not found; is there a way to bring that back? Thank you!
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Bruce Harrell
Jan 24, 2026, 3:46:12 PMJan 24
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About the key command dialogue, can one copy and paste it into a text file? There's got to be a way to select it all for copying, right?
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TheOreoMonster
Jan 24, 2026, 5:44:22 PMJan 24
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Once again I ask, what is it thats easier about opening another app like say text edit or switching to another device like your phone , instead of pressing command K and typing in the search field or pressing keys to hear what they do in the table?
I find it’s easier to search in the key commands dialog than it is to search through a text file. Genuinely trying to understand the appeal of that workflow and I am not criticizing anyone here.
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I find it’s easier to search in the key commands dialog than it is to search through a text file. Genuinely trying to understand the appeal of that workflow and I am not criticizing anyone here.
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Bruce Harrell
Jan 24, 2026, 6:03:45 PMJan 24
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don't know about others, but speaking from personal experience, historically I've felt more comfortable using text than tables, and searching sometimes leaves me wondering if I used the wrong search terms and may be missing things. Sometimes I do a search and know I'm missing something bec ause I don't get the results I'm looking for.
Also, with text, the user can mark it up, such as using asterisks or other marks to do quick reviews of the most often used items, searching from asterisk to asterisk, or to mark section subject divides, etc.
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Also, with text, the user can mark it up, such as using asterisks or other marks to do quick reviews of the most often used items, searching from asterisk to asterisk, or to mark section subject divides, etc.
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MERT ÖZER
Jan 24, 2026, 6:38:35 PMJan 24
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The dialog is useful, but sometimes VoiceOver becomes unresponsive when searching for a keyboard command, especially when cursor tracking is on. I know it sounds weird, but that is really what I experience on an M4 Pro MacBook Pro. Also, sometimes VoiceOver starts reading hundreds of rows that are being expanded when I try to find commands by pressing a keyboard shortcut while the dialog is active. Closing the dialog is also not very fast, since Command+W does not work and I have to click the close button at the top of the window. The website was easy for me to navigate, as everything was clearly separated with headings, and I could use VoiceOver search to quickly find what I was looking for.
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TheOreoMonster
Jan 24, 2026, 7:24:26 PMJan 24
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Yeah I have noticed the unresponsive issue and the expanding all the rows thing as well. In the key commands dialog VO Space on the more button and select expand all rows before searching or exploring the table and see if that helps.
Also VO home (VO FN Left Arrow on a laptop) gets you closer to the close button when you are not in the table so you can get there quicker to close the window.
Generally in any table (if they are properly formatted), VO Left/Right And VO Up/Down will navigate across a row or up or down a column.
Regarding search terms, I will often try synonyms like delete or remove for example. Usually once you figure out the terminology its consistent. For example it wouldn’t say delete region but then remove tracks. It will most likely say delete region, and delete track. Also I will try part of a search term like regions or tracks or locators to see all the commands that have those options.
The unresponsive issue is one I haven’t figured out what’s causing but it seems to happen when you navigate past the search field sometimes, and I can get wanting to mark up your own Local document, however whenever the key commands list is updated you will have to mark up the new copy all over again, so it may be worth just copying the key commands you want to use or reference back to often into your own text file anyways so even if an updated key commands file is available, you can just add your local text file with your mark ups.
Minus VoiceOver going unresponsive which is a relatedly new thing, I have still found it faster to open the Key commands dialog and thus at the time thought the key commands list on the website was redundant. Thanks for the feedback however, and I have an idea or two on how to bring back the key commands list, but updating it on the website with having to navigate through all the HTML code and or writing in new key commands with their HTML tags was a bit tedious. So it would need to be an option that makes it quick easy when I need to update it. In the mean time, hopefully the tips above will make using the key commands list go smoother for now.
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Also VO home (VO FN Left Arrow on a laptop) gets you closer to the close button when you are not in the table so you can get there quicker to close the window.
Generally in any table (if they are properly formatted), VO Left/Right And VO Up/Down will navigate across a row or up or down a column.
Regarding search terms, I will often try synonyms like delete or remove for example. Usually once you figure out the terminology its consistent. For example it wouldn’t say delete region but then remove tracks. It will most likely say delete region, and delete track. Also I will try part of a search term like regions or tracks or locators to see all the commands that have those options.
The unresponsive issue is one I haven’t figured out what’s causing but it seems to happen when you navigate past the search field sometimes, and I can get wanting to mark up your own Local document, however whenever the key commands list is updated you will have to mark up the new copy all over again, so it may be worth just copying the key commands you want to use or reference back to often into your own text file anyways so even if an updated key commands file is available, you can just add your local text file with your mark ups.
Minus VoiceOver going unresponsive which is a relatedly new thing, I have still found it faster to open the Key commands dialog and thus at the time thought the key commands list on the website was redundant. Thanks for the feedback however, and I have an idea or two on how to bring back the key commands list, but updating it on the website with having to navigate through all the HTML code and or writing in new key commands with their HTML tags was a bit tedious. So it would need to be an option that makes it quick easy when I need to update it. In the mean time, hopefully the tips above will make using the key commands list go smoother for now.
-T.O.M
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Mert Ozer
Jan 25, 2026, 12:36:27 AMJan 25
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Thank you, if you use an app like mWeb where you can type in markdown and preview the html, and export the html code from the app, i feel like it'd be a lot easier to update the document. I just prefer the website reliability over voiceover's logic pro not responding message, as when that happens i have to wait for a few seconds and maybe restart voiceover... But I'll try expending all the rows and look at the shortcuts that way
Mert Ozer
> On Jan 24, 2026, at 7:24 PM, TheOreoMonster <theoreo...@logic.band> wrote:
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> Yeah I have noticed the unresponsive issue and the expanding all the rows thing as well. In the key commands dialog VO Space on the more button and select expand all rows before searching or exploring the table and see if that helps.
> To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/logic-accessibility/22A8C590-FCCE-4AC9-B9D2-A2D89E737C40%40logic.band.
Mert Ozer
> On Jan 24, 2026, at 7:24 PM, TheOreoMonster <theoreo...@logic.band> wrote:
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> Yeah I have noticed the unresponsive issue and the expanding all the rows thing as well. In the key commands dialog VO Space on the more button and select expand all rows before searching or exploring the table and see if that helps.
TheOreoMonster
Jan 25, 2026, 2:38:01 AMJan 25
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You can always use VO J to jump around the Key Commands window to hopefully avoid getting stuck in the search field.
I’ll look into MWeb as I was exploring options earlier for something similar, so we’ll see. Though Ideally it would be nice to just update it in one place and be done with it, not update it, in markdown, then copy HTML, paste and preview to make sure everything came across correctly then publish. I am really trying to get things streamlined at the moment as I am maintaining a lot and don’t get to work on a lot of my own stuff as a result.
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I’ll look into MWeb as I was exploring options earlier for something similar, so we’ll see. Though Ideally it would be nice to just update it in one place and be done with it, not update it, in markdown, then copy HTML, paste and preview to make sure everything came across correctly then publish. I am really trying to get things streamlined at the moment as I am maintaining a lot and don’t get to work on a lot of my own stuff as a result.
Ramy Moustafa Saber
Jan 25, 2026, 4:44:59 PMJan 25
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For me i like both, but i usually depend on the webiste.
warmregards
just need to know if the Logic magician shortcuts will be available inside the Commad K?
this is very great news
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TheOreoMonster
Jan 25, 2026, 4:56:47 PMJan 25
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No, as Logic Magician key commands are not a part of Logic, there is not a way for them to be included when you use Option K. The Key Commands list on the site didn’t include Logic Magician key commands either. You will need to use the Logic Magician documentation to check for Logic Magician key commands. The Logic Magician documentation however does include a lot of the LogicKeyboardNinja key commands as Logic Magician adds spoken feedback to them. So if one would like a separate document that is sorted with a table of contents and that they can also search they can download the Logic Magician Documentation and use the table of contents or search options to jump around the document.
-T.O.M
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Ramy Moustafa Saber
Jan 25, 2026, 5:05:16 PMJan 25
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THnaks for your hard work.
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