Guide for Helping Deliver Jakarta EE 9

[Reza Rahman]

Folks,

One of the things I wanted to take care of this weekend is polishing up
the guide Ondro started on how to help deliver Jakarta EE 9. The guide
is geared towards contributors just beginning:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-GMg_V6pm5GwCfvp4nZdDl8XRHTdmX80rcE-Bgv9CZg/edit?usp=sharing.
I tried hard to keep it a one pager but it spilled over to two.

Can you please take a look and give me your feedback? I want to get this
out there as soon as possible and begin engaging the many people that
expressed interest in contributing to Jakarta EE in the past few months.
Waiting too much longer might mean losing too many of these people that
I think we badly need.

Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Speaker, Blogger

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member and do not reflect the views of my employer.

[Otavio Santana]

Hey Heza, I did some suggestions on the doc.
In general, it looks good.

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[Reza Rahman]

May I kindly request any initial feedback be shared by Friday? By Monday
I would like to begin reaching out to a number of folks that have been
waiting a while to hear back.

Reza Rahman
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[Kevin Sutter]

Thanks, Reza, for the reminder!  I have added comments and suggested edits directly in your Google doc.


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[Reza Rahman]

I am going to begin reaching out to all the people who are waiting with
what I have now. At some point, I prefer some discussion on where this
content should ultimately reside. My current opinion is that it should
be a child page of this:
https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/getting-involved/. Other ideas?

Reza Rahman
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[Michael Redlich]

Hi Reza:

Yes, +1 on your suggestion that the document become a web page.  The URL can be advertised on social media and via e-mail.

Mike. 

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[Rudy De Busscher]

A link from the website is also an option but webpage is fine for me.

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[Nishant Raut]

Agree we should port document into webpage, should we include hyperlink on how to raise PR etc. 

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[Thodoris Bais]

Reza, the document looks good to me, so no further additions from my end at this moment.

+1, this document should become a child page of the "Getting Involved" page.

Thodoris

Op zaterdag 28 maart 2020 02:44:44 UTC+1 schreef Reza Rahman:

[m.reza.rahman]

Unless anyone objects, I would like to move ahead. Can someone kindly volunteer to make the changes to the website? The folks from Alamon can get you set up with access.

Reza Rahman

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[Thodoris Bais]

I could pick that up.

How could I reach the folks from Alamon?

Thodoris

Op zo 29 mrt. 2020 om 18:15 schreef m.reza.rahman <m.reza...@gmail.com>:

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[Reza Rahman]

Let's give them a couple of days to respond here. If not, I will tap them on the shoulder.

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[Reza Rahman]

Dennis/Wesley - could we kindly set Theo up with website edit access? If it's an issue, I can do it.

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On 3/29/2020 4:02 PM, Thodoris Bais wrote:

[Wesley Jackson]

Sorry for the late reply, I will look at that here in the next few minutes.

Regards,

Wes

[Jackson, Wesley]

I have sent an invitation to Thodoris for the website. Let me know if you need anything else.

Regards,

Wes

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[Thodoris Bais]

Cool, thanks a lot, Wesley!

I saw indeed an invite coming in. 

Will have a look at the website tomorrow.

Thodoris

Op do 2 apr. 2020 03:39 schreef Jackson, Wesley <wes...@alamon.com>:

[Tobi]

Hello Everyone,

My name is Tobi and I recently expressed interest to contribute to the Jakarta EE (starting with the faces and EL for now) where I can.

Best Regards,
Tobi

[Kito Mann]

Hello Reza,

I know I’m very late to the party, but I read through this and I think it’s very well done and very much needed; thanks for doing this. The only thing I noticed is that the link in this sentence is incorrect (I can’t comment or edit the doc):

“response in a timely fashion, please don’t hesitate to ​let us know​“

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[Reza Rahman]

Doesn't it link to this Google Group? Should I change it to a mailto? What do you prefer as the link?

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[Kito Mann]

Interesting... on my iPad it appeared to be a broken link, but on my Mac it looks fine. I guess we should leave it as-is for now.

[Thodoris Bais]

As discussed, this guide has now been published as a child page of the Getting Involved page:

Link to the Guide page: https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/getting-involved/guide-for-helping-deliver-jakarta-ee-9/

Moreover, I took the liberty to also add an extra bullet on the bottom of the parent page to enhance the linking between them:

Please let me know if there are any objections.

Thodoris

Op vr 3 apr. 2020 om 11:57 schreef Kito Mann <kito...@virtua.com>:

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[Ondro Mihályi]

Awesome, Thodoris, good job!

The link on the parent page is clickable but it doesn't appear as a link (it's not underlined and appears as the rest of the text on Android Firefox). All the rest is just perfect. 

Ondro

Dňa pi 3. 4. 2020, 13:05 Thodoris Bais <thodor...@gmail.com> napísal(a):

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[Reza Rahman]

It all looks good. Thanks for taking care of this. I made some very minor cosmetic changes for consistency with the rest of the site. This weekend, I'll post this to DZone.

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[Michael Redlich]

Awesome, Thodoris!

Thanks for posting on the website!

Mike.

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[Reza Rahman]

FYI DZone finally published the guide: https://dzone.com/articles/guide-to-helping-deliver-jakarta-ee-9. Please consider up-voting. Hopefully it gets us a few more active contributors.

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[reza_rahman]

Otavio is on the mailing list, hopefully he will engage you. However, it is likely most helpful to engage the broader community on the Jakarta NoSQL mailing list. The mailing list has fairly low traffic and I am sure feedback would be appreciated there. I believe the project has addressed some of these points in the past, however.

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From: han...@gmail.com

Date: 4/25/20 2:46 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: Reza Rahman <reza_...@lycos.com>

Subject: RE: [jakartaee-ambassadors] Guide for Helping Deliver Jakarta EE 9

The NoSQL seems attractive for developers who want to use NoSQL in Jakarta EE. I have not tried it yet, just browsed some project info.

1. There is no transaction in these specs? I know some NoSQL also support jta as well as  RDBMS, in Spring, Mongo and redis are get  tx support.
2. The APIs seems similar with JPA, but not shared APIs with the existing JDBC, JPA. Spring is trying to extract the common APIs for all database, eg. The DataAccess Exception.
3. Reactive API support via Java 9 Flow/ReactiveStreams API, most of the NoSQL provided drivers for Reactive Streams APIs.

 

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Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:53 AM
To: Jakarta EE Ambassadors; Jakarta EE community discussions
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FYI DZone finally published the guide: https://dzone.com/articles/guide-to-helping-deliver-jakarta-ee-9. Please consider up-voting. Hopefully it gets us a few more active contributors.

 

Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Speaker, Blogger

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On 4/3/2020 10:25 PM, Reza Rahman wrote:

It all looks good. Thanks for taking care of this. I made some very minor cosmetic changes for consistency with the rest of the site. This weekend, I'll post this to DZone.

 

Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Speaker, Blogger

Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community member and do not reflect the views of my employer.

 

On 4/3/2020 7:05 AM, Thodoris Bais wrote:

As discussed, this guide has now been published as a child page of the Getting Involved page:

 

 

Link to the Guide page: https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/getting-involved/guide-for-helping-deliver-jakarta-ee-9/

 

Moreover, I took the liberty to also add an extra bullet on the bottom of the parent page to enhance the linking between them:

To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jakartaee-ambassadors/2cb757b0-4fb7-8212-c6f7-28c3a348141d%40lycos.com.

 

[Otavio Santana]

Hello everyone, yes, I'm here :)

There is no transaction in these specs?

We don't have support to the transaction because usually, the NoSQL database does not have support to transaction. We can have by extensions to a particular NoSQL database.

The APIs seem similar to JPA, but not shared APIs with the existing JDBC, JPA.
That is the top question. That's why I diced to write a post:

https://dzone.com/articles/jakarta-nosql-the-main-idea-behind-the-api
There is also a issue about it:
https://github.com/eclipse/jnosql/issues/165


About the reactive, it returns a Stream and the specs have support to both: Java 8 and Java 11.

If you have more question, please, let me know.