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Sarah Weaver
May 25, 2024, 12:45:28 AM5/25/24
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Thanks so much Synthia and Dirk!
Synthia, great points.. We were already on a 512 buffer. The performer is on a Mac. I didn’t try an alternate jitter buffer strategy, that is an idea. I don’t think it was about disconnecting and reconnecting too quickly since we tried an entirely different server during troubleshooting. I will check out the “garbled” links.
Unfortunately I didn’t get a recording of what they were hearing, just a vocalized replica they attempted :)
Dirk, sounds like similar issues. I will hone in on the buffering and buffer strategies..
Thanks again!
Sarah
On May 25, 2024, at 12:05 AM, jacktri...@googlegroups.com wrote:
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Sarah Weaver <sarahr...@gmail.com>: May 24 08:57PM -0400
Greetings! I am writing to the list to see if anyone has ideas on a
jacktrip connectivity issue. This is towards a project happening this
weekend 5/25 and 5/26 at 2pmEDT: ...more
Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:20PM -0700
how about buffer size and use of jitter buffer?
mac, windows, linux, rpi?
searched "garbled" on https://github.com/jacktrip/jacktrip/issues
Mike Dickey's post ...more
Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:24PM -0700
also searched "garbled" on this googlegroup
https://groups.google.com/g/jacktrip-users/search?q=garbled
On 5/24/2024 5:57 PM, Sarah Weaver wrote:
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Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:26PM -0700
also want to mention that when disconnecting and then reconnecting too
quickly, or multiple times, the server will not have had time to clear
out the previous connection and the results could be ...more
Dirk Stromberg <dirk.st...@lasalle.edu.sg>: May 25 09:27AM +0800
Hi All,
We had some major issues and worked through them. We found going for a
stable latency and just forcing latency works best. We found a lot of
issues with the loss concealment (which had ...more
Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:42PM -0700
garbled has a lot of different interpretations
check cables
reboot modem
disable wifi at the computer
keep cell phones away
turn off bluetooth
clear browser cache
close all other applications ...more
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Synthia Cynthia Payne
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you're welcome Sarah, standing by...good luck and please report back
what worked, if anything!
On 5/24/2024 9:45 PM, Sarah Weaver wrote:
> Thanks so much Synthia and Dirk!
>
> Synthia, great points.. We were already on a 512 buffer. The performer
> is on a Mac. I didn’t try an alternate jitter buffer strategy, that is
> an idea. I don’t think it was about disconnecting and reconnecting too
> quickly since we tried an entirely different server during
> troubleshooting. I will check out the “garbled” links.
>
> Unfortunately I didn’t get a recording of what they were hearing, just a
> vocalized replica they attempted :)
>
> Dirk, sounds like similar issues. I will hone in on the buffering and
> buffer strategies..
>
> Thanks again!
> Sarah
>
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what worked, if anything!
On 5/24/2024 9:45 PM, Sarah Weaver wrote:
> Thanks so much Synthia and Dirk!
>
> Synthia, great points.. We were already on a 512 buffer. The performer
> is on a Mac. I didn’t try an alternate jitter buffer strategy, that is
> an idea. I don’t think it was about disconnecting and reconnecting too
> quickly since we tried an entirely different server during
> troubleshooting. I will check out the “garbled” links.
>
> Unfortunately I didn’t get a recording of what they were hearing, just a
> vocalized replica they attempted :)
>
> Dirk, sounds like similar issues. I will hone in on the buffering and
> buffer strategies..
>
> Thanks again!
> Sarah
>
>> On May 25, 2024, at 12:05 AM, jacktri...@googlegroups.com wrote:
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>> Sarah Weaver <sarahr...@gmail.com>: May 24 08:57PM -0400
>>
>> Greetings! I am writing to the list to see if anyone has ideas on a
>> jacktrip connectivity issue. This is towards a project happening this
>> weekend 5/25 and 5/26 at 2pmEDT: ...more
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/jacktrip-users/msg/a29219b3571c6?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>>
>> Greetings! I am writing to the list to see if anyone has ideas on a
>> jacktrip connectivity issue. This is towards a project happening this
>> weekend 5/25 and 5/26 at 2pmEDT: ...more
>> Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:20PM -0700
>>
>> how about buffer size and use of jitter buffer?
>> mac, windows, linux, rpi?
>>
>> searched "garbled" on https://github.com/jacktrip/jacktrip/issues
>> <https://github.com/jacktrip/jacktrip/issues>
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>> Mike Dickey's post ...more
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>>
>> how about buffer size and use of jitter buffer?
>> mac, windows, linux, rpi?
>>
>> searched "garbled" on https://github.com/jacktrip/jacktrip/issues
>> <https://github.com/jacktrip/jacktrip/issues>
>>
>> Mike Dickey's post ...more
>> Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:24PM -0700
>>
>> also searched "garbled" on this googlegroup
>> https://groups.google.com/g/jacktrip-users/search?q=garbled
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/jacktrip-users/search?q=garbled>
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>> On 5/24/2024 5:57 PM, Sarah Weaver wrote:
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>> <http://groups.google.com/group/jacktrip-users/msg/a2a9a97d8ea51?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
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>> also searched "garbled" on this googlegroup
>> https://groups.google.com/g/jacktrip-users/search?q=garbled
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/jacktrip-users/search?q=garbled>
>>
>> On 5/24/2024 5:57 PM, Sarah Weaver wrote:
>> ...more
>> Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:26PM -0700
>>
>> also want to mention that when disconnecting and then reconnecting too
>> quickly, or multiple times, the server will not have had time to clear
>> out the previous connection and the results could be ...more
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/jacktrip-users/msg/a2ab5dad65531?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>>
>> also want to mention that when disconnecting and then reconnecting too
>> quickly, or multiple times, the server will not have had time to clear
>> out the previous connection and the results could be ...more
>> Dirk Stromberg <dirk.st...@lasalle.edu.sg>: May 25 09:27AM +0800
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We had some major issues and worked through them. We found going for a
>> stable latency and just forcing latency works best. We found a lot of
>> issues with the loss concealment (which had ...more
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/jacktrip-users/msg/a2acd9a183b8a?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We had some major issues and worked through them. We found going for a
>> stable latency and just forcing latency works best. We found a lot of
>> issues with the loss concealment (which had ...more
>> Synthia Cynthia Payne <synthi...@gmail.com>: May 24 06:42PM -0700
>>
>> garbled has a lot of different interpretations
>>
>> check cables
>> reboot modem
>> disable wifi at the computer
>> keep cell phones away
>> turn off bluetooth
>> clear browser cache
>> close all other applications ...more
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/jacktrip-users/msg/a2b9f4df04eed?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>>
>> garbled has a lot of different interpretations
>>
>> check cables
>> reboot modem
>> disable wifi at the computer
>> keep cell phones away
>> turn off bluetooth
>> clear browser cache
>> close all other applications ...more
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Dirk Stromberg
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Hi,
I have found 512 very unstable for some reason. We found maximum stability at 256.
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Mike O'Connor
May 25, 2024, 7:56:02 AM5/25/24
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hi Sarah,
512 sometimes isn't enough buffer if the performer's internet connection isn't up to snuff. you might try taking the person up to 1024 or even 2048 just to check this theory.
at this point i would start looking at the pieces between the performer and the router and see if there's something that can be fixed (bad cables and connections are the first place to look -- sometimes unplugging and plugging back in will clear things up). or, if they are on a regional wireless network try improving the radio-receiving position of their router.
i could drop into a diagnostic session if that would help.
mike
Sarah Weaver
May 27, 2024, 7:33:46 PM5/27/24
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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your input!
The outcome of this was that changing to a different computer helped reduce, but not fully remove, the garbling. It happened intermittently for them while the rest of the time they heard a clear connection. This was good enough to get through the performance, thankfully. They also froze during the performance for about 4 seconds, but the connection held and they were back in.
I heard another theory off-list that there could be a mismatch between how much bandwidth the hardware could handle versus what the internet connection could provide. The performer has a new 1Gbps network since the last project and another person performed with JackTrip on it successfully earlier this month with their hardware. Since changing to a different computer improved the garbling, this seems to point to a hardware issue. Will see with more testing ahead.
The outcome of this was that changing to a different computer helped reduce, but not fully remove, the garbling. It happened intermittently for them while the rest of the time they heard a clear connection. This was good enough to get through the performance, thankfully. They also froze during the performance for about 4 seconds, but the connection held and they were back in.
I heard another theory off-list that there could be a mismatch between how much bandwidth the hardware could handle versus what the internet connection could provide. The performer has a new 1Gbps network since the last project and another person performed with JackTrip on it successfully earlier this month with their hardware. Since changing to a different computer improved the garbling, this seems to point to a hardware issue. Will see with more testing ahead.
In any case the music turned out well!
Thanks again!
Sarah
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