SK 2285 09 November 2019

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 9, 2019, 2:32:18 AM11/9/19

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Dear Members,

Location: Harthok, Palpa

Date: 25 September 2019

Elevation: 1460 m.

Habit : Wild

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 9, 2019, 2:34:22 AM11/9/19

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 9, 2019, 2:36:56 AM11/9/19

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Nov 10, 2019, 1:15:23 PM11/10/19

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Any chance , a Linum species ?

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019, 13:06 Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Dear Members,

Location: Harthok, Palpa
Date: 25 September 2019
Elevation: 1460 m.
Habit : Wild

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 10, 2019, 1:27:22 PM11/10/19

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No match to Linum, Dr. Singh !

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Saroj Kasaju

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Nov 11, 2019, 1:56:32 AM11/11/19

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We shall find out whatever it is !

It is so beautiful and delicate !!

( Not listed in FOI .)

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 11, 2019, 11:00:23 AM11/11/19

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Thank you Dr. Singh!

Saroj Kasaju

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radha veach

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Nov 11, 2019, 9:17:09 PM11/11/19

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Sopubia trifida perhaps

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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Nov 13, 2019, 11:13:05 PM11/13/19

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Thanks, Radha ji

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Sopubia trifida perhaps

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Radha

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 14, 2019, 2:52:36 AM11/14/19

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Thank you Radhaji for the ID !

Sopubia trifida Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don

Nepali Names : तिक्ता Tiktaa / साल्चा Saalchaa

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Nov 14, 2019, 7:49:23 AM11/14/19

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O My God !!! This image is unforgettable ! I checked efi and realised my folly !

I had in my mind Sopubia trifida image from Flowers of India http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Split%20Leaf%20Sopubia.html, which is most definitely misidentified !! I hope Tabish ji will take note !!

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 14, 2019, 11:09:29 AM11/14/19

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Excerpts from book and efc:

Corolla yellow to purple; tube ca. 3 mm; lobes orbicular-obovate, ca. 5 mm, subequal, apex rounded. Filaments ± flattened;

Thank you Dr. Singh !

Saroj Kasaju

dr.rakesh Singh

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Nov 14, 2019, 12:34:03 PM11/14/19

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Saroj sir ,

Funnily enough , florakarnataka jcb herbarium quotes some old flora page , saying corolla yellow with purple center . And it has 3 photographs with pink tubular flowers !!!

GBIF says it has 3 lower taxa ,without giving any detail . Var. madagascarensis is deep pink flower , morphology similar to your specimen .

Just read a paper revising genus sopubia ... it says Soubia trifida flowers pink , obviously talking about var. madagascarensis .

Interestingly , I searched posts on S .trifida in Indian Flora...there are 3 types of posts ... 1. Parasopubia delphinfolia being identified as S .trifida , 2. Yellow flowered S .trifida same as yours , and 3. there is a pink tubular flower ,smaller than flower in Parasoubia delphinfolia without dark throat .

This 3rd one needs to be studied ...because it is neither of two , unidentified .

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 14, 2019, 12:59:30 PM11/14/19

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Interesting indeed Dr. Singh. Some expert would advise on this? By the way only one is listed in Nepal.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Nidhan Singh

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Nov 14, 2019, 7:38:38 PM11/14/19

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Nice pics Saroj Ji..

Please also go through this post which was identified as Sopubia trifida

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/swrN2Ok7nDc

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 14, 2019, 7:57:02 PM11/14/19

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Yes Nidhan Sir! I have gone through it !

Saroj Kasaju

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Dinesh Valke

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Nov 17, 2019, 7:23:35 AM11/17/19

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Thanks Saroj ji for this upload.

I was not aware that Sopubia trifida is so different from Sopubia delphinifolia.

One of the pics at FoI is mine; I went by the young trifid leaves, which I now realize on reading this post, that the leaves near apex are quite variable compared to basal matured leaves.

Thanks very much Radha for suggesting the ID; thanks Rakesh ji for pointing to images in FoI; I am sure Tabish will take care of the page.

Regards.

Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 17, 2019, 7:31:45 AM11/17/19

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Thanks Nidhan ji for your upload.

Somehow I must have missed noting your post then.

Regards.

Dinesh

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 17, 2019, 7:37:16 AM11/17/19

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Thank you Dinesh Ji. It is my pleasure as well !

Saroj Kasaju

dr.rakesh Singh

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Nov 18, 2019, 8:47:59 AM11/18/19

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Just finished page on Sopubia trifida .

It doesn't have any post with pink flowered S. trifida .

Also , conspicuous by its absence is pink flowered S. trifida in Indian Flora or any other Botany group on facebook .

Question is , does Pink Flowered Sopubia trifida occur in India ?

This https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1260884812 link shows pink flowered S. trifida in Madagascar .

This http://www.ville-ge.ch/cjb/publications/cando681/C681_115-122.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1Q412F4FCvMQYIPNZ6Bu-EfGXLdnahemfQs4ouQmzknMraW020NucLP5g paper is about segregation of Parasopubia from Sopubia and a new taxon and sub-taxa of Parasopubia from Western Ghat with key for species .

This document http://sciencepress.mnhn.fr/sites/default/files/articles/pdf/a1998n2a9.pdf is revision of Genus Sopubia .

Hope this will be helpful .

Tabish

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Nov 19, 2019, 12:37:54 AM11/19/19

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Thanks Rakesh ji and others. I will correct it on FOI.

Best wishes

Tabish

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