Today's translation head-scratcher

[Warren Smith]

I am translating a patent for a 放送受信プログラム (broadcast receiving program) that displays a list of names of 番組 (programs) that can be 再生 (played/viewed/listened to, etc.).

 

Using the word "program" for both concepts is very confusing, but I am finding it difficult to find a word other than "program" for one concept or the other. I hate to go with "computer program" for プログラム, given that the program might run on a microcontroller or the like , or be divided between multiple devices, which might be defined as other than a "computer." Conversely, I really can't go with "TV program" for 番組, because the 番組 might be audio-only (what we used to call a "radio program:).

 

Have any of my esteemed colleges run into this conundrum and found a good solution?

[cpta...@ozemail.com.au]

ソフト？ロジック？計算機が受け入れ得る形式になっている一連の命令？(hence ケイケイレイ?)

Chris

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[Warren Smith]

Dave McMahon on the Honyaku-type Facebook forum suggested "content."

 

Great answer, I think.

 

W

 

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I am translating a patent for a 放送受信プログラム (broadcast receiving program) that displays a list of names of 番組 (programs) that can be 再生 (played/viewed/listened to, etc.).

 

Using the word "program" for both concepts is very confusing, but I am finding it difficult to find a word other than "program" for one concept or the other. I hate to go with "computer program" for プログラム, given that the program might run on a microcontroller or the like , or be divided between multiple devices, which might be defined as other than a "computer." Conversely, I really can't go with "TV program" for 番組, because the 番組 might be audio-only (what we used to call a "radio program:).

 

Have any of my esteemed colleges run into this conundrum and found a good solution?

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[Warren Smith]

Hah! The word "ソフト" is often a problem for me, as it doesn't map well onto English. I like your idea of "a series of instructions," and might have used it if "content" weren't such a good solution.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

Warren

 

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[Robert Kawaratani]

Application?

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[Herman]

If there is a need to distinguish the two senses, use program for プログラム
and programme for 番組.

Herman Kahn

[John Stroman]

Warren,

Perhaps "content" will work depending on your context, but if the device displays the names, then perhaps something like names of "broadcasted/podcasted programs," will be clearer.

Recently I've found that sentences in many patent applications written during the pandemic lack information (not only the usual items such as a grammatical subject) that must be added for the English translation to make sense.  I don't know if this is an issue caused by the authors working remotely, lack of in-house review before submission, or something else. I feel like I'm translating stuff written in the mid-1990s again.

John Stroman

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