He is just repeating the same old saw we have been hearing from the VA management as it tries to implement Cerner. Freedom of the press has failed in this instance.
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...and don't forget Meditech...surprised that no one in the press or the politicos ever mention the fact that probably 60% of all major hospitals are using an M based EMR...
Or the success that Jordan has had.
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I would love to see a cost comparison of VA
and Jordan's implementation....it would of course be apples and
oranges to some degree...but there are some interesting
fundamental differences...e.g. number of instances, running
YottaDB.
Jordan stats from the last VistA Community Meeting presentation:
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Please help me to understand "the success that Jordan has had". I am not familiar with Jordan and his succes, cannot follow the discussion, Sorry!
Wolfgang
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AI values the amount of data input to a topic not the prejudices of so called IT-professionels and teaching gurus. In the real world M's role is quite remarkable. And that is why the input to AI and the basis of ChatGPT is better than expected.
Wolfgang
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...and don't forget Meditech...surprised that no one in the press or the politicos ever mention the fact that probably 60% of all major hospitals are using an M based EMR...
As long as VistA and Epic survive, I believe there will be MUMPS programmers. You need to understand the internals of VistA and Epic to properly program for it as you well know, and that will be harder to teach AI and there will need to be speed, which some other databases have not been able to provide. Of course, I am not a MUMPS programmer, so you will have to take what I say with the proper grain of salt. I just don't think George Timson can be replaced by a bot when it comes to Fileman, etc.
The country of Jordan, as referenced in Joseph’s email.
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Thanks, excuse my misunderstanding.
Wolfgang Giere
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I have played some with GPT4 (plan to do more after my next
class) and I have seen a big improvements in reasoning and wording
(haven't done much in the way of code generation with it). It was
very helpful in negotiating contract wording and suggesting
alternate wording.
The thing that
really shows promise is plug-ins. You can teach GPT4 how to
call out to APIs for real time information (not just the dataset
trained to 2021). It can suggest a local restaurant, plan a meal,
calculate the calories and place an order for the ingredients via
Instacart.
So imagine creating plugins for it to access FM databases to write reports. To find relationships or anomalies in the data. To write application modules/patches, create KIDS releases, install them in an account and test them! How about evaluate a patch or version release to see if it conforms to the SACC and other release rules (such as logic errors, test inputs and confirm outputs).
Plugins could be the big change that makes it relevant to many
different communities of users. (It could also be a way for it to
do bad things...)
So to answer your question George. It won't take an army of MUMPS
programmers. The existing coders just need to get comfortable with
an eager AI assistant and pass the torch to enough others (human
and machine) to keep it alive.
Sure, I am thinking pretty far ahead, BUT we can see a way now.
Who knows what will be created?
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