Native MySQL connection using internal IP

[Jakub Głuszecki]

Hi folks!

I have a Ruby no Rails application running on Compute Engine VM's.

I'm excited about a new possibility to use native mysql connections to CloudSql instances,

however I'm not happy to connect using an external IP.

Is there any possibility now, or planned in the near future, to connect to CloudSql instance using some sort of internal IP, just like two Compute Engine Vm's can connect to each other using internal subnet?

[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

Currently we only have support via externals IPs. Note that the SSL support [1] provides a way to secure the connections to Clouud SQL from both GCE and Internet.

[1] https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/docs/instances#ssl

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[Jakub Głuszecki]

Thanks for your answer Razvan,

I'm aware of SSL support, I agree that it improves security, however I have some other concerns about connecting using external IP - I'm afraid of network/firewall issues. Is there any possibility that some firewall (on the Google side) interferes with mysql connections between GCE and CloudSql instances? I have some issues with unused connenctions. Everything works fine if a connection is busy, but few minutes of inactivity seems to break it. I'm going to dig deeper, but maybe You can provide me with some hints.

W dniu niedziela, 17 listopada 2013 04:22:59 UTC+1 użytkownik Razvan Musaloiu-E. napisał:

Currently we only have support via externals IPs. Note that the SSL support [1] provides a way to secure the connections to Clouud SQL from both GCE and Internet.

[1] https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/docs/instances#ssl

-- Razvan ME

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jakub Głuszecki <jakub.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks!

I have a Ruby no Rails application running on Compute Engine VM's.

I'm excited about a new possibility to use native mysql connections to CloudSql instances,

however I'm not happy to connect using an external IP.

Is there any possibility now, or planned in the near future, to connect to CloudSql instance using some sort of internal IP, just like two Compute Engine Vm's can connect to each other using internal subnet?

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[Jakub Głuszecki]

Using mysql client it looks like this: (connecting from GCE vm instance)

mysql> select count(*) from leads;

+----------+

| count(*) |

+----------+

|        2 |

+----------+

1 row in set (0.00 sec)

[ ... now take a 15 mins break ... ]

mysql> select count(*) from leads;

[ ... it hangs and after few minutes: ]

ERROR 2013 (HY000): Lost connection to MySQL server during query

[ ... another try, right after error msg appeared ]

mysql> select count(*) from leads;

ERROR 2006 (HY000): MySQL server has gone away

No connection. Trying to reconnect...

Connection id:    8

Current database: landingpage

+----------+

| count(*) |

+----------+

|        2 |

+----------+

1 row in set (0.10 sec)

[Tony Tseng]

Hi there,

The 15 minute window may indicate that your instance has been brought down due to inactivity. Is your instance on a per use pricing plan (https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/pricing#per_use)? If that's the case, that'd explain why the server has gone away.

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[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

I was able to reproduce the issue reported by Jakub Głuszecki. The instance was up so it's not the 15-minute timeout. I'll dig some more to find the root cause.

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[Jakub Głuszecki]

I switched to package billing plan plus I have an application making
regular sql queries to cloudsql instance (using GCE health check) but
the problem I reported using mysql client still exists.

2013/11/18 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:

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[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

It seems that you are affected by a limitation in GCE:

   Once a connection has been established with an instance, traffic is permitted in both directions over that connection, until the connection times out after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Can you try configuring the TCP keepalive [2]?

[1] https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/networking#overview

[2] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/usingkeepalive.html

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[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

Yup, lowering the keepalive make the mysql client happy. Here is the command I used:

sudo bash -c 'echo 60 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time'

-- Razvan ME

[Jakub Głuszecki]

Thank you Razvan. I confirm that adjusting tcp_keepalive_time solves
the problem.
Call me old-fashioned, I still would love to have the ability to
connect to cloudsql using GCE internal subnet.

2013/11/19 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:

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[Sergio Garcia Murillo]

+1 ;)

Or at least be able to authorize them with something different than the
public IP address, which can be a real burden when launching servers
dynamically with temporal ip addresses.

Best regards
Sergio
El 19/11/2013 10:36, Jakub G�uszecki escribi�:

> Thank you Razvan. I confirm that adjusting tcp_keepalive_time solves
> the problem.
> Call me old-fashioned, I still would love to have the ability to
> connect to cloudsql using GCE internal subnet.
>
> 2013/11/19 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:
>> Yup, lowering the keepalive make the mysql client happy. Here is the command
>> I used:
>>
>> sudo bash -c 'echo 60 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time'
>>
>>
>> -- Razvan ME
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>> It seems that you are affected by a limitation in GCE:
>>>
>>> Once a connection has been established with an instance, traffic is
>>> permitted in both directions over that connection, until the connection
>>> times out after 10 minutes of inactivity.
>>>
>>> Can you try configuring the TCP keepalive [2]?
>>>
>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/networking#overview
>>> [2] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/usingkeepalive.html
>>>
>>> -- Razvan ME
>>>
>>>

>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jakub G�uszecki

>>> <jakub.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I switched to package billing plan plus I have an application making
>>>> regular sql queries to cloudsql instance (using GCE health check) but
>>>> the problem I reported using mysql client still exists.
>>>>
>>>> 2013/11/18 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:

>>>>> I was able to reproduce the issue reported by Jakub G�uszecki. The

>>>>> instance
>>>>> was up so it's not the 15-minute timeout. I'll dig some more to find
>>>>> the
>>>>> root cause.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Razvan ME
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Tony Tseng <t...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>> The 15 minute window may indicate that your instance has been brought
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> due to inactivity. Is your instance on a per use pricing plan
>>>>>> (https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/pricing#per_use)? If that's
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> case, that'd explain why the server has gone away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Jakub G�uszecki

>>>>>>> W dniu niedziela, 17 listopada 2013 13:23:41 UTC+1 u�ytkownik Jakub
>>>>>>> G�uszecki napisa�:

>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer Razvan,
>>>>>>>> I'm aware of SSL support, I agree that it improves security, however
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have some other concerns about connecting using external IP - I'm
>>>>>>>> afraid of
>>>>>>>> network/firewall issues. Is there any possibility that some firewall
>>>>>>>> (on the
>>>>>>>> Google side) interferes with mysql connections between GCE and
>>>>>>>> CloudSql
>>>>>>>> instances? I have some issues with unused connenctions. Everything
>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>> fine if a connection is busy, but few minutes of inactivity seems to
>>>>>>>> break
>>>>>>>> it. I'm going to dig deeper, but maybe You can provide me with some
>>>>>>>> hints.
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> W dniu niedziela, 17 listopada 2013 04:22:59 UTC+1 u�ytkownik Razvan
>>>>>>>> Musaloiu-E. napisaďż˝:

>>>>>>>>> Currently we only have support via externals IPs. Note that the SSL
>>>>>>>>> support [1] provides a way to secure the connections to Clouud SQL
>>>>>>>>> from both
>>>>>>>>> GCE and Internet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/docs/instances#ssl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Razvan ME
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jakub G�uszecki

>>>> Jakub G�uszecki

[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

I agree that the ability to connect using local GCE address makes a lot of sense and it is something we would like to make it possible. We are not there yet though. :-)

-- Razvan ME

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[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

The Cloud SQL Admin API [1] makes it possible to automate many actions, including updating the authorized networks. Have you try it?

[1] https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/docs/admin-api/index

-- Razvan ME

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.gar...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 ;)

Or at least be able to authorize them with something different than the public IP address, which can be a real burden when launching servers dynamically with temporal ip addresses.

Best regards
Sergio

El 19/11/2013 10:36, Jakub Głuszecki escribió:

Thank you Razvan. I confirm that adjusting tcp_keepalive_time solves
the problem.
Call me old-fashioned, I still would love to have the ability to
connect to cloudsql using GCE internal subnet.

2013/11/19 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:

Yup, lowering the keepalive make the mysql client happy. Here is the command
I used:

sudo bash -c 'echo 60 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time'


-- Razvan ME


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>
wrote:

It seems that you are affected by a limitation in GCE:

    Once a connection has been established with an instance, traffic is
permitted in both directions over that connection, until the connection
times out after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Can you try configuring the TCP keepalive [2]?

[1] https://developers.google.com/compute/docs/networking#overview
[2] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/usingkeepalive.html

-- Razvan ME

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jakub Głuszecki
<jakub.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

I switched to package billing plan plus I have an application making
regular sql queries to cloudsql instance (using GCE health check) but
the problem I reported using mysql client still exists.

2013/11/18 Razvan Musaloiu-E. <raz...@google.com>:

I was able to reproduce the issue reported by Jakub Głuszecki. The

instance
was up so it's not the 15-minute timeout. I'll dig some more to find
the
root cause.

-- Razvan ME


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Tony Tseng <t...@google.com> wrote:

Hi there,
The 15 minute window may indicate that your instance has been brought
down
due to inactivity. Is your instance on a per use pricing plan
(https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/pricing#per_use)? If that's
the
case, that'd explain why the server has gone away.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Jakub Głuszecki
<jakub.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

W dniu niedziela, 17 listopada 2013 13:23:41 UTC+1 użytkownik Jakub
Głuszecki napisał:

Thanks for your answer Razvan,
I'm aware of SSL support, I agree that it improves security, however
I
have some other concerns about connecting using external IP - I'm
afraid of
network/firewall issues. Is there any possibility that some firewall
(on the
Google side) interferes with mysql connections between GCE and
CloudSql
instances? I have some issues with unused connenctions. Everything
works
fine if a connection is busy, but few minutes of inactivity seems to
break
it. I'm going to dig deeper, but maybe You can provide me with some
hints.

W dniu niedziela, 17 listopada 2013 04:22:59 UTC+1 użytkownik Razvan
Musaloiu-E. napisał:

Currently we only have support via externals IPs. Note that the SSL
support [1] provides a way to secure the connections to Clouud SQL
from both
GCE and Internet.

[1] https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/docs/instances#ssl

-- Razvan ME

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jakub Głuszecki
<jakub.g...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi folks!

I have a Ruby no Rails application running on Compute Engine VM's.
I'm excited about a new possibility to use native mysql
connections to
CloudSql instances,
however I'm not happy to connect using an external IP.
Is there any possibility now, or planned in the near future, to
connect to CloudSql instance using some sort of internal IP, just
like two
Compute Engine Vm's can connect to each other using internal
subnet?

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Private networks still can't be authorized, is there a plan to change that in the near future?

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[Razvan Musaloiu-E.]

We don't have that yet but the Second Generation Cloud SQL instances can be access without authorizing the IP of the client by using a proxy [1] that can get access using the service account of a VM.

[1] https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloudsql-proxy

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