The world to the old peeps was malevolent. Feeding kids, keeping alive, surviving diseases, weather, war, and way early on, other animals. Religion acted as a psychological survival kit, and it often still does for many. Not such a comfort for you or I, but that's what makes soccer games.
For me, the existential is ultimate, and perhaps it shouldn't be? Character flaw and all that. So I pursue the views of those willing to get into the intellectual weeds, for this. Now, this is knowing that the majority of scientists hate this because it gets in their way. They like atheism, they like when you are dead you are dead, and they like grants to pursue interesting research. For them, their neurobiology likes this pattern. Me? Not so much.
> New religions I hold we do not need.
> Skeptic Michael Shermer paraphrasing Arthur C. Clarke, said: A sufficiently advanced alien intelligence is indistinguishable from God."
> Religion acted as a psychological survival kit,
> and it often still does for many. Not such a comfort for you or I, but that's what makes soccer games.
> the majority of scientists hate this because it gets in their way.
> They like atheism, they like when you are dead you are dead,
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:50 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Religion acted as a psychological survival kit,
As in human sacrifice and war? Romans tortured Christians because they wouldn't worship their Gods, and when Christians gained power Christians tortured non-Christians because they wouldn't worship their God. In England Catholics tortured Protestants, and when Protestants took power protestants tortured Catholics. And most wars have a strong religious component, even World War 2; the leader of Germany hated the Jews and used that hatred as a political weapon to gain power, but without religion there wouldn't even be classes of people called "Jews" and "non-Jews" to hate and opppress because there would just be "people". As for the 911 attacks, well, I won't point out the obvious.
The following sewage is a quotation from a speech Adolf Hitler gave on April 12 1922:
"Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."
I would much prefer to live with questions that have not been answered than to live with answers that cannot be questioned.
Spudboy and the medinuclear guy Ben would have things so that truth comes from authority. This is the psychology of religion. This is a paradox of sorts, for it God has truth because he conforms to it, this means he is not totally free and all powerful. If God defined or created truth then truth is not something valid in of itself. Religion sets up the psychology that truth does emerge from authority and power, and we should not be surprised to see that so many religious people favor authoritarian personalities in power.
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> Oh, Adolf was trying a sales pitch!
> What he was trying to do is recruit the Jew-haters of the Church which had always worked.
> The trick of both Christianity and Islam is the other side. To survive one's death and especially, the death of one's loved one's, you have to follow the rules.
> Dolf secretly hated Christianity, for being tainted with what he termed, "The Jewish pity ethic."
> The comparison to Trump show's me that you are trying for a "rise," out of me
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> Dolf secretly hated Christianity, for being tainted with what he termed, "The Jewish pity ethic."
It doesn't matter if Hitler believed in Christianity or not, what's important is that Hitler knew that tens of millions of Germans DID believe in Christianity and he could use that mind virus to get them to dance to his tune.
>> It doesn't matter if Hitler believed in Christianity or not, what's important is that Hitler knew that tens of millions of Germans DID believe in Christianity and he could use that mind virus to get them to dance to his tune.
> Men will cease to commit atrocities only when they cease to believe absurdities.
--- Voltaire
The Donald was more PT Barnum than Mussolini, a socialist journalist and a novelist. The MYPillow guy beat his drug addiction with Jesus belief so more power to him. I may switch to his new company and leave Jeff Bezos at Amazon and his precious propaganda unit the Washington Post behind. I may vote with my wallet. Hate mongering is now a feature of the liberals and progressives with their attacks, sometimes physical on Jews and East Asians.
I can supply you with links if you ask. So hatred is a tool to achieve power.
You really are saying that atheists don't do murderous things? Hawking, by the way, lost his bet with Leonard Susskind about information disappearing forever via black holes, and was like the British, wrong about Israel. You can use religion to do murder, but the world socialists did the greatest murders in the world by number and they are and were atheists. Let me line up my information sources for you.Australian Broadcasting Company, mate!Wall Street Journal
Both were atheist regimes. I believe the people who do mass murder always need an excuse. Hitler was a big atheist as well, but liked useful idiots as well as anyone else.
>You really are saying that atheists don't do murderous things?
> Hawking, by the way, lost his bet with Leonard Susskind about information disappearing forever via black holes,
> the world socialists did the greatest murders in the world by number and they are and were atheists.
> I believe the people who do mass murder always need an excuse.
> Hitler was a big atheist as well,
> but liked useful idiots
> One absurdity is that atheists will commit mass murder in the name of world socialism,
> "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
-C.K. Chesterton
> You can either release thugs, go easy on them, and thus, they get to do what they do best, harm people.
> John, about Stephen Hawking, that was my dry humor that he, though brilliant, can be wrong on things. He was wrong with his bet with L. Susskind,
> No I am not advising the Scandinavians to change a thing. However, here is a correction for you. The Scandinavians are no longer, economically, socialist fellow travellers.
> Off topic, but related, because of this, here is a result of not being stuck in 1970 utopianism: One is this Danish company planning to mass produce salt moderated fission reactors for use at sea. Let me know what your opinion is, and if you think it might work or be a disaster on the high seas?
> When I refer to the socialists mass killing people this fact cannot be disputed. For China, yes sir, their economics have changed absolutely, but the Party, the Communist Party China is still is full tyrannical control. Not the millionaires, nor the billionaires,
> The Hitler Atheist thing is, for me, irrelevant John.
> Atheism didn't cause Joe Stalin, or Pol Pot to be more reasonable.
> Allow me to ask you two white lads
> If he was such a hitler, why did he not before the start of 2021, call for millions to "occupy" DC and engage violently with police and troops by the millions???
> Adolf and Stalin and Mao wouldn't have backed down.
> Need I remind you that Capitalism is not, by necessity, democracy!!!
Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
We have insurrectionists in Congress, and they are all Republicans.
LC
>Socialists who do mass murder are no better than religious people who do mass murder. Can we agree on this premise?
> We have our own religions and sometimes without a god
> P.J. O'Rourke, who once wrote; "I'm an American, I don't want to solve problems using government, I want to solve problems using technology.
> I write unclearly.
> An attorney would on the stand have you define insurrection
> Creationism, now that's a funny one! However, it does highlight the danger of the closure of the American mind in academia.
> I would urge all Americans to know that we are likely getting screwed over by the globalists,
> otherwise the disappearance of US manufacturing,
> Should I worship Gates?
> the import of H-1B employees,
> China is happy to develop new tech,
> Do you trust Chairman Xi?
If pure atheism, works for you than more power to you. My suspicion is that people who are snarky atheists such as yourself tend to have a nicely wired brain system, thus are not troubled by big D, little e-a-t-h. This is all to the good and I congratulate you. Good job.
John, I agree that going to the US Capitol to riot was an evil deed. It was one deed, a singular event, one! Bad as it was, just one.Now let is compare the actions of BLM and Antifa which were and are permitted to do violent acts and go unpunished because in the cities where they occur, they are run by the democratic party, states and cities.