Death, science, and politics
John Clark
> Hypersonics only do 13.5 KPH. However, their trick is swerving in mid air to avoid being hit by incoming anti-missiles.
3) You say you hate Russia but you uncritically believe all the hype they spew out. The Russians fire a few hypersonic missiles into Ukraine and claim it is a world beating weapon, but it turns out to have an insignificant effect on the war. The Russians claimed they had a powerful all conquering army, but it turned out to be powerful on paper only because it had incompetent commanders leading untrained poorly equipped soldiers who had bottom of the birdcage morale and were communicating with unencrypted commercial cell phones and we're fighting with obsolete weapons, some from the 1940s.
> To grease your skids, JC, I will push (along with others) making abortion less attractive then building artificial wombs! Thus retaining the Christian voter and promoting a new moral answer for humankind.
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John Clark
> Yes, you and the Christians are opposed to my Brave New World approach to birthing. It is however a way up from abortion and if we are going to be a more, ethical species, this would be a huge step. It will sell, but its not being offered by progressives, nor, conservatives, because [...]
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John Clark
> you will grow to adore DeSantis,
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Jesse Mazer
We shall see about hypersonic weapons, just know that Joey is responding in kind.
Yes, you and the Christians are opposed to my Brave New World approach to birthing. It is however a way up from abortion and if we are going to be a more, ethical species, this would be a huge step. It will sell, but its not being offered by progressives, nor, conservatives, because of their dedication to ideology.
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> Hypersonics only do 13.5 KPH. However, their trick is swerving in mid air to avoid being hit by incoming anti-missiles.
I have three comments on that:1) The US does not have a viable defense against ICBMs, it didn't have one 60 years ago when ICBMs first came online and it doesn't have one today. And neither does Russia. And neither does China. And neither does anybody else. And nobody is likely to develop one in the foreseeable future.
2) Just one modern ICBM can contain hundreds of decoys and a dozen nuclear reentry warheads, each many times more powerful than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, and can be individually maneuvered and reach a dozen cities hundreds of miles apart with pinpoint accuracy.
3) You say you hate Russia but you uncritically believe all the hype they spew out. The Russians fire a few hypersonic missiles into Ukraine and claim it is a world beating weapon, but it turns out to have an insignificant effect on the war. The Russians claimed they had a powerful all conquering army, but it turned out to be powerful on paper only because it had incompetent commanders leading untrained poorly equipped soldiers who had bottom of the birdcage morale and were communicating with unencrypted commercial cell phones and we're fighting with obsolete weapons, some from the 1940s.
> To grease your skids, JC, I will push (along with others) making abortion less attractive then building artificial wombs! Thus retaining the Christian voter and promoting a new moral answer for humankind.Christian voters were very upset when the first so-called "test tube baby" was born by in vitro fertilization, today many think even condoms are an unnatural abomination and should be banned; so I really don't think Christians are going to be thrilled by artificial wombs. And it would take years and billions of dollars to develop artificial wombs, but historically Republicans have been reluctant to spend money on scientific research or spend money on anything except for devices that can kill people that the military or the man in the street can use. And I'm not sure Republicans would be happy about spending many trillions of tax dollars to care for millions of unwanted and unloved children for 18 years. But I am sure that Republicans will blame the Democrats for the huge increase in street crime that spikes 18 years after your lunatic plan takes effect.
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So, the potential for human minds that never made it to consciousness, minds cut off suddenly, everyone else needs to...
For myself, a layman of some sort, I tend to be attracted to science analyses and philosophies that indicate the mechanism of stuff like this. Here is a short essay from physicist (ret) Guilio Prisco that suggests this path.
Samiya Illias
Hired for Khilafat
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Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin]
Christmas has a suffix of “Mass” which comes from the Latin word missa meaning “sent” used since the 6th or 7th century to describe the Catholic celebration of the Eucharist (The Breaking of Bread or Communion Table) when the priest or deacon dismisses the worsippers in Latin “Ite, missa est”. There is no memorial for birthday of Christ (Christmas) in the Bible, but the Messiah’s death is memorialized in the “Lord’s or Communion Table or Breaking of Bread”, first initiated by the Messiah immediately after the “Last Supper” or Passover before “Crucifixion” (Matt. 26:17-18; Mark 14:12-16; Luke 22:7-13). The early Church (100% Jewish) observed the Communion daily in the Jerusalem Temple and later on First Day (Acts 2:46; 20:7).
The willing, vicarious death of the Messiah is effected ONLY on the cancellation of the “Sentence of Death” by the ONLY Sentencer through the agency of the “Sola Scriptura” and the conviction of the “Solus Spiritus Sanctus”, in the willing acceptor. YHWH is the Second Person of the Triune who genetically encoded death penalty as the consequence of insubordination to Adonai (plural) YHWH (single) Elohim(uni-plural). The incarnation of the Second Person is the “Theanthropic Zygote”—100% divine and 100% human-- without any human agency of male and female. The Almighty is mighty enough to perfect that. The birth, life and death of the “Sentencer” is the record of the 66 Books from Genesis to Revelation—the Lamb ordained, but was slain, from the foundation of the world, buried, risen, ascended and imminently (not necessarily immediately) returning to establish the Kingdom (Genesis 3:15; Romans chapter 5; Galatians 3:16; Ephesians 1:4; 1 Peter 1:19-20; Revelation 13:8). A fortuitous combination of circumstances including the tyrannical decree of taxation by Caesar Augustus fulfils Micah 5:2 prophecy in Bethlehem Judah. Even if there was room in inn, the privacy of a cave- manger would have preferred for the delivery of the Lamb “Born Crucified”.
In fact that is the whole story of Christmas—the Mass for the Christ Baby” in Remembrance (Luke 22:19).
Philip Benjamin
Note: Hindu/Buddhism, Muslim views on death: They are given below (Atheistic nihilism not included):
https://slife.org/islamic-view-of-death/
Islamic Vie of Death. “However, a continuity between all these ideas derived from the basic sources from the Quran and Islamic narratives. One canonical idea is, that the angel of death (Malak al-Maut) appears to the dying to take out their souls. The sinners’ souls are extracted in a most painful way while the righteous are treated easily.
Another common idea, although appearing relatively late in Islamic traditions, adds that, after the burial, two angels – Munkar and Nakir – come to question the dead in order to test their faith. The righteous believers answer correctly and live in peace and comfort while the sinners and disbelievers fail and punishments ensue. The time period or stage between death and the end of the world is called the life of barzakh. Suicide, euthanasia, and unjust murder as means of death are all prohibited in Islam, and are considered major sins.”
https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/gravematters/2017/03/05/hindu-perspectives-on-death-karma-and-its-implications/ “Hindu Perspectives on Death: [Reincarnation] Karma and Its Implications”. “Hindu perspectives on death center on the idea that a person’s spirit (atman) is permanent; it lives beyond a biological death. In stark contrast, the physical body is almost like a temporary inhabitation, something disposable that you leave behind with the rest of your material belongings when you die”.
https://www.alislam.org/khilafat/Khilafat: “Khilafat the successorship of prophethood. After Prophethood, Khilafat is the most important institution in Islam. Khulafa are ultimately appointed by God through His Divine guidance. Though Khilafat had disappeared, it has been re-established as prophecied by The Holy Prophet, Muhammad” https://www.britannica.com/event/Khilafat-movement
“Mahatma Gandhi’s noncooperation movement for Indian freedom, promising nonviolence in return for his support of the Khilafat movement. In 1920 the latter movement was marred by the ḥijrat (Urdu: “exodus”; recalling Muhammad’s Hijrah from Mecca) from India to Afghanistan of about 18,000 Muslim peasants, who felt that India was an apostate land. It was also tarnished by the Muslim Malabar rebellion in south India in 1921, the excesses of which deeply stirred Hindu India. Gandhi’s suspension of his movement and his arrest in March 1922 weakened the Khilafat movement still further. It was further undermined when Mustafa Kemal Atatürk drove the Greeks from western Asia Minor in 1922 and deposed the Turkish sultan Mehmed VI in the same year. The movement finally collapsed when Atatürk abolished the caliphate altogether in 1924”.
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Hired for Khilafat
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Samiya Illias
The Devils among The Angels & The Khilafat of Adam
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