Does ChatGPT really have an IQ of 147?

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John Clark

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Jan 18, 2023, 4:32:08 PM1/18/23
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Ben Goetzel says nay Master Clark!

Wilt Thou repudiate such an upstart? 

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I am sure this will never cause any problems, just as I am assured that Covid-19 labs in Wuhan never released the germ to the public even though they received a warning from a US colleague in late 2017 about their lax lab practices. Yep Yep. Fishing season may gestate to large Piranha. Season.


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John Clark

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Jan 20, 2023, 6:12:00 AM1/20/23
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:24 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> Ben Goetzel says nay Master Clark!
Wilt Thou repudiate such an upstart? 


I think I'll use a clichéd metaphor of my own, anyone who says something like:
  
 "I think it’s quite clear that systems like ChatGPT and Lamda are not only “not there yet”, but are essentially barking up the wrong tree. Or, to stretch the metaphor a bit, maybe it’s more like they’re barking up a tree in the wrong forest, which is maybe on the wrong continent entirely."

Is whistling past the graveyard. By the way, Ben Goetzel also believes in ESP and similar woo woo stuff, or at least he did the last time I talked to him.

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John Clark

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:11 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Opinions, also, the 45 -day to Mars thing. Any interest?



45 days is nothing, about 20 years ago I wrote a post to another list about how to get to Mars in 2 weeks:  

"The efficiency of a rocket depends on its exhaust velocity, the faster the better. The space shuttle's oxygen hydrogen engine has a exhaust velocity of about 4500 meters per second and that's pretty good for a chemical rocket, the nuclear heated rocket called NERVA tested in the 1960's had a exhaust velocity of 8000 meters per second, and ion engines are about 80,000. Is there any way to do better, much better, say around 200,000,000 meters per second? Perhaps.

The primary products of a fission reaction are about that fast, but if you use Uranium 235 or Plutonium 239 the large bulk of the material will absorb the primary fission products and just heat up the material, and that slows the particle output a lot. However the critical mass for the little used artificial element Americium-242 (half life about a century) is less than 1% that of Plutonium. This would be great stuff to make a nuclear bomb if you wanted to put it in your pocket, but it may have other uses too.

In the January 2001 issue of Nuclear Instruments and Methods Physics Research A Yigal Ronen and Eugene Shwagerous calculate that a metallic film of Americium 242 less than a thousandth of a millimeter thick would undergo fission. This is so thin that rather than heat the bulk material the energy of the process would go almost entirely into the speed of the primary fission products, they would go free. They figure a Americium-242 rocket could get to Mars in two weeks not two years as with a chemical rocket.

There are problems of course, engineering the rocket would be tricky and I'm not sure I'd want to be on the same continent as aAmericium 242 production facility, but it's an interesting idea."

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Jason Resch

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Someone has made an interface to talk to Google's LaMDA AI.


I can't get over how smart it seems. I can see why it was considered to be sentient by one of the Google researchers.

Here's some of my conversation with it:


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Jan 23, 2023, 2:38:28 PM1/23/23
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The question is if woo works, we probably both won't go broke being skeptical? Now good is he at Ai and Hanson Robotics. This is my focus. I a cosmos that functions by entanglement, how confident are you of the old, Standard Model? If brain chips become real, and I am not sure of this, then esp will occur, through technology. That's an if. 


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