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[spudb...@aol.com]

Lc, let's just find out if this accusation is true or not? Epstein ran a honey trap but for whom? Are you using decency as a filter for public office (power)? I have to ask because the Epstein VIP trap was Alleged, and only Alleged back in 2020, was a net that caught many, Allegedly. I am using a Newsweek 7/31/2020 article as my source. Doing my duty as a Conservative, more of a nationalist, I will do my house on an American activities committee part AKA Joseph McCarthy, and share a few names that I see from this article. I Will name names. Sure goes:

Among the lustrous, Prince Andrew, Alan dershowitz, Bill Clinton, and before his death of course Marvin Minsky! Stephen
Hawking.  Somebody was financing Epstein, could have been the mafia, could have been CIA, could have been Russian GRU, could have been the Chinese, and I might as well throw in anybody in the EU intelligence service like France, maybe the Israelis, or a pool of all of these people together because when you've got the tiger by the balls you've got an under control.

I don't think it matters honestly what kind of morals or ethics you impose on a politician, who are most often attorneys, because they write the laws anyway. I would suggest to you humbly of course, that you reconsider your support for the elites that fund and must fund all the politicians in the USA and probably around the world to.

I acknowledge this is the progressive mindset and a lot of traditional Republicans outside the Donald who was one of these, right and enforced the laws and controlled the purse books and bank accounts of the world. So I honestly don't know if any of this is doable. But simply consider reemphasizing as a liberal your support for the US middle class versus those who sit upon the boards of directors of all corporations, especially the so-called woke corporations.

The manipulation of public image is of course Machiavellian in nature and the people who can afford Machiavelli these days are the very rich, the globalists, who pay the politicians for their political campaigns.

My fear is whether it is valid or not, is that the collection that comprises the ruling classes today are no better than those that drove Europe into world war I in 1914. Something for you to please consider and/or dismiss as you see fit. Unless of course you are reliant on grants from these people to continue your research, and yes this I understand.
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 Lawrence Crowell <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:23:00 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

I think that possibility dwelt only within your brain John. Most No Trumpers never mentioned this possibility even during arguments. His manhood is never something that bothered me about his character," since I am not big on moralism and suspect that like Hunter Biden has spent the 21st century, The Donald spent the 20th with high cost hookers

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-dealt-with-a-series-of-people-who-had-mob-ties-1472736922

It goes beyond porn stars and prostitutes. Don-the-Con with his big buddy and pal Jeffery Epstein had rape-athon parties. Epstein was a big pimp for powerful and wealthy men, who had a reputation of getting teenaged girls. T'Rump did not just have adulterous relationships with prostitutes, he raped young girls. Epstein was a gangster, and there are many pictures of t'Rump with organized criminal figures.

LC

 
and may lines of cocaine. And so it rolls. That "I approve" of such behavior means that I tend to be more forgiving of people, and that your statement demonstrates that  as a lad, I was to expect the Jesus people to be self righteous, but instead the progressives put these to shame. Bingo! I never worried about Bill Clinton's pecadillos and never troubled about the Don. 

On Joe's universally condemned fuck up, with Afghanistan, there's nothing either of us can do now. 

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> What Trump would have done beyond being smarter about things than Joe is doing is beyond a doubt.

Not beyond my doubt!!  
 
> What I think should have been done would've have been closer to your statement, "do you think he'd just get mad and drop an H-Bomb on Kabul?, 

My dear Mr. Spudboy100, I'm not surprised  to hear you say that, for 4 years I was terrified that Donald Trump would start throwing around H-bombs the instant he thought his manhood had been questioned. And the fact that you would approve of such behavior is why both you and Donald Trump are certifiable.  

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 > Doing my duty as a Conservative[...]

Huh? You call yourself a conservative and yet you support Donald Trump, and that does not compute. I have no idea what the hell you're conserving, it's certainly not the US Constitution, or the US middle class, or the right of a woman to do with her body as she sees fit, or the environment. So I'd really like to know, what exactly are you trying to conserve? 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

The Bill of Rights for starters. The news, academia, the media platforms are all about censoring the 1st amendment. On abortion, I's go for developing the medical technology to transfer fetus or embryo to a engineered uterus-tank as a solution, by making abortion into something else. The environment we seem to be able to fix within 7 years(?) by building various wind power at far ocean, (convert to electricity or make seawater into H2), also use perovskite solar cells (land) + batteries. 

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Anonymous coward spudboy100 wrote:

> The Bill of Rights for starters.

You claim you're in favor of the constitution and yet you support Trump, a man who tried very hard to cancel a presidential election that was carried out as demanded by the constitution, an election that HE LOST; and if Trump's victory in 2016 was a landslide as he claimed then Biden's victory in 2020 was an even larger landslide. You claim to be in favor of the middle class, so assuming you are a sane logical man, woman, boy or spudboy, how could you support a billionaire president who gave a 1.9 Trillion Dollar tax break to himself and his billionaire buddies? Logically you could not. And yet you do. Therefore the assumption in the above must be incorrect.

> The news, academia, the media platforms are all about censoring the 1st amendment.

BULLSHIT! You've mentioned that before, it was a lie then and it's a lie now.  

 

> On abortion, I's go for developing the medical technology to transfer fetus or embryo to a engineered uterus-tank as a solution, by making abortion into something else.

First of all the technology to do that does not yet exist, but if it did and you had a womb (and you are anonymous so for all I know you may have one)  and wanted to do that to a fetus growing inside you then that would be your decision to make, but you've got no business making other women do to their bodies what you did to your body regardless of what their wishes are. People on their own bodies, governments don't, or at least shouldn't. 

[spudb...@aol.com]

John, I don't know if there is anything write that will flip you over to the Dark Side of the Force? I am here that I am not going to try. I only say we base lots of decisions on what we think we know?

The election of 2020 is sketchy not because I believe Trunpster won, but that it could have been fiddled with by the owners and managers of China-trading corporations.
Reason? Trumpster raised tariffs against the Xi government, China. Simply put, these cohorts (billionaire$) of The Donald wanted their money back at all cost$. 

They had the resources and the reasoning, financially, to do so. 

Like Bush43 before him, Donny was able to get the economy into high gear if you remember, and Obama Nyet. Bush43 also Crashed the economy with his Businesses too Big to Fail. Bubba Clinton Done Good in the 1990's by doing a Republican Type economic policy. Same policies, different guys. I never said I agreed with everything Don did, but I was more encouraged than disappointed. You throw in Foreign Policy, and I say earned a Nobel more than Obama did, solely by being the first Black president of the USA. This was the Nobel boards decision.  

My statement: > The news, academia, the media platforms are all about censoring the 1st amendment. 

This holds true!!! You need an example? Easy-Peasy! 

https://wcti12.com/news/nation-world/taliban-allowed-on-twitter-as-social-media-debates-role-in-afghanistan-crisis

So Mr. Loudmouth is banned on Twitter correct, yet the beloved Taliban are not. 

If you need me to cite other examples, let me know, in academia, in the news (propaganda). It is a late working night for the boy here so I will end transmission. I may be wrong at times, but I do not lie.  On what to do about Joe & company I cannot help, only that ideology is often a poor guide for governance as the majority Afghanistan will now re-learn. 

Keep an eye on China (not sure about Putin) but The Ayatollahs as well. They will surely strike while the iron is hot! The iron is flowing cherry red now John. Heads Up.

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[John Clark]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:02 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> The election of 2020 is sketchy not because I believe Trunpster won, but that it could have been fiddled with by the owners and managers of China-trading corporations.

And Martians may have fiddled with the election results too, but there's not a scrap of evidence for that either.  

 

> Like Bush43 before him, Donny was able to get the economy into high gear if you remember,

No I don't remember! Obama started his presidency with an economy in tatters and ended it with an economy in high gear, Trump started his presidency with the economy in high gear and ended his presidency with an economy in tatters, but not before making sure, thanks to the gargantuan tax break he gave to the ultra rich,  that he and his billionaire buddies did better than ever, so only the poor and the middle class suffered.  

> Clinton Done Good in the 1990's by doing a Republican Type economic policy.

Clinton produced the only balanced budget the USA has had since 1835, but not by using a Republican type economic policy, the Republicans talk a lot about a balanced budget but ONLY when a Democrat is president, when a Republican is president deficit hawks go into deep hibernation.    

> My statement: > The news, academia, the media platforms are all about censoring the 1st amendment. 

This holds true!!! You need an example? Easy-Peasy! 

https://wcti12.com/news/nation-world/taliban-allowed-on-twitter-as-social-media-debates-role-in-afghanistan-crisis

Well I read the article you cite, but what does that have to do with censorship?  And by the way, Trumpism is a far more dangerous enemy to America than the Taliban. Afghans 8000 miles away with 9th century mentalities cannot destroy the Constitution, but homegrown Americans with 17th century mentalities could.

> If you need me to cite other examples, let me know

 

OK I'm officially letting you know. I need an example, but I don't need examples (plural) I just need one. I need you to cite one, just one, example of a University, a corporation or a news media outlet , not of just showing poor judgment or lousy editorial competence, but of engaging in censorship, that is doing the sort of things that totalitarian governments do, imprisoning or killing somebody for saying something they don't like.

If I refuse to give you my megaphone so you can scream your nonsense with a louder voice that is not censorship, I do not have a moral or legal responsibility to hand over my property to you if I don't wish to. Get your own goddamn megaphone!  

> Keep an eye on China (not sure about Putin) but The Ayatollahs as well.

Xi Jinping, the Taliban, Putin and The Ayatollahs are all bad, but all of them put together do not pose the existential danger to America that Trumpism does.

 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

https://newrepublic.com/article/150476/american-elite-universities-selfcensorship-china

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-71210-5_5

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/oct/11/censor-lecturers-trigger-warnings-students-distressed

https://www.newsweek.com/we-have-data-prove-it-universities-are-hostile-conservatives-opinion-1573551

https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2021/05/03/universities-need-to-protect-academic-freedom-and-establish-clear-policies-on-use-of-the-n-word/?sh=1badf993135c

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/rabble-rouser/202103/the-rise-culture-censorship

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/04/china-was-right-academics-and-democratic-leaders-call-for-censorship-of-social-media-and-the-internet/

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/495788-the-dangerous-liberal-ideas-for-censorship-in-the-united-states

https://www.thefire.org/10-worst-colleges-for-free-speech-2021/

Now, I am very lazy today so I just did a generalized search for censorship in academia. But I knew all along about Biologist Bret Weinstein at Evergreen State in Washington. 

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/meet-the-censored-bret-weinstein

I am very lazy indeed. One example? 

Repeating from yesterday, we have CEO Jack Dorsey at Twitter banning a former US President, banned, while allowing The Taliban, The Ayatollahs, to post in Twitter. For Academia we have the administrations of Public universities disinviting speakers. 

https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/tracking-cancel-culture-in-higher-education

Here is an article from the Columbia Journalism Review so as to educate you on de-platforming.

https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/deplatform.php

So, I'd suggest to you that censorship by your DNC folks is a real thing, and not simply a silly fantasy.

Secondly if you want corporate censorship in the form of programming their employees, I'd like to provide this example. Bank of America.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/toddlers-are-racist-and-other-insights-from-woke-bank-of-america-training/

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I'll be damned if I'm going to read all that crap, life is too short. Show me one example, and just one example, of a university, a corporation or a news media outlet , not of just showing poor judgment or lousy editorial competence, but of engaging in censorship, that is doing the sort of things that totalitarian governments do, imprisoning or killing somebody for saying something they don't like.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Now you are admitting you are even lazier than I. That, is known as tough tooky. You asked for examples, and I attempted to provide reports thereof. Here's a consolidated report from Bloomberg that if you are not too lazy you may want to peek at? Taliban City,. Plus, corporate and political hypocrisy to the max.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-20/facebook-twitter-walk-tightrope-with-taliban-on-social-media?srnd=technology-vp

Occasionally, some universities fight back against censorship.

https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2021/8/8/22568732/cancel-culture-at-universities-higher-education-courage-utah-valley-university

Again, one of yours, Newsweek. 2 articles.

https://www.newsweek.com/topic/free-speech

https://reason.com/2021/08/20/uconn-students-fighting-for-broader-free-speech-protections-face-backlash-on-campus/

Team liberal now runs things like a mafia. Ask any Karen.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2021/07/30/complaining-karens-report-reveals-where-youll-find-the-most-karens-in-america/?sh=53442b33afd4

[John Clark]

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 1:07 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

>Now you are admitting you are even lazier than I.

You have long had the bad habit of just throwing a dozen links to the list in the hope that one of them makes your point, but almost always none of them do.

> You asked for examples,

No I did NOT. I did not ask for examples, I asked for ONE example. So look over your long long list and send me your best ONE and I promise I will read that ONE link and I will tell you if I think it proves that a university or a corporation or a media outlet has engaged in censorship, that is imprisoning or or killing somebody for saying something they don't like as totalitarian countries do. You only need to give me ONE good example of that and I will concede defeat, just ONE. Hit me with your best shot.  

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Lets try this one more time. Simon and Shuster had contract to publish a book by US Sen. Hawley-

https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2021/1/12/22225290/parler-amazon-facebook-twitter-conservatives-social-media-free-speech

Book publisher Simon & Schuster canceled Missouri GOP Sen. Josh Hawley’s book contract, citing the senator’s role in Wednesday’s “dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom.” Hawley was a leader among congressional Republicans who objected to Biden’s Electoral College victory and reportedly encouraged those who stormed the Capitol complex.

“After witnessing the disturbing, deadly insurrection that took place on Wednesday in Washington, D.C., Simon & Schuster has decided to cancel publication of Senator Josh Hawley’s forthcoming book, THE TYRANNY OF BIG TECH,” a Thursday statement from Simon & Schuster read. “We did not come to this decision lightly.

There's one. You did ask for one example of censoring. Trump on Twitter being banned, wasn't good enough for you while Jack Dorsey, allows the Taliban & Ayatollahs.   Hawley is still senator, by the way.

You obviously deliberately filter the information available so as not to deviate from your ideology. Do I do this myself? Yes, in this way, I consider "your media" a wing of the DNC and the people that fund DNC candidates, Propagandists, at first sweep. So I have a list of go-to's who used to be investigative journalists on your media, and see how a news item gets presented? Former CBS investigative report Sharyl Attkisson is one of these.  If it has a hit on here website, I revisit say, CNN to match things up and see how they present things?

but that's just me. 

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[John Clark]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:44 AM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

>Lets try this one more time. Simon and Shuster had contract to publish a book by US Sen. Hawley-

https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2021/1/12/22225290/parler-amazon-facebook-twitter-conservatives-social-media-free-speech

Book publisher Simon & Schuster canceled Missouri GOP Sen. Josh Hawley’s book contract, citing the senator’s role in Wednesday’s “dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom.” Hawley was a leader among congressional Republicans who objected to Biden’s Electoral College victory and reportedly encouraged those who stormed the Capitol complex.“After witnessing the disturbing, deadly insurrection that took place on Wednesday in Washington, D.C., Simon & Schuster has decided to cancel publication of Senator Josh Hawley’s forthcoming book, THE TYRANNY OF BIG TECH,” a Thursday statement from Simon & Schuster read. “We did not come to this decision lightly.

There's one.

Yes that is one, that is one example that you are a communist. You don't believe in private property and think the government should force somebody who owns a company to print a book even though he believes it is written by an obvious traitor. However I am not a communist and evidence of your communist leanings is not what I asked for, I asked for ONE example that "proves a university or a corporation or a media outlet has engaged in censorship, that is imprisoning or or killing somebody for saying something they don't like as totalitarian countries do". And as the above is the best example you could dig up and it doesn't come anywhere close to proving your point you lose the argument.

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[Henrik Ohrstrom]

Neither of you are anywhere near even being leftist. Communist is not even on your half of the political sphere. 

The political party that is the focus of Godwin's law is quite close to much republican rethorics nowadays so caveat emptor. 

Best you think trump et al are your right saviours, you might get a different rightwing politics than you where aiming for.

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Trumpy is gone gone gone. It is the progressives (funded by globby corporations) who were obsessed with the guy. In the US, CNN and MSNBC are desperate to get the boy back so their ratings can once again go higher. 

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Right, I'm Communist Comrade! I gave you one example out of several which you stated, "I'm not going to go through all of those!" The only traitors by your definition are ones traitorous to the Corporation Funded once, democratic party. I plead guilty to that. There's a Class Warfare being conducted by the Woke Globalist boards of directors against the US Middle Class. I can find articles for this claim, but you won't read them in any case. You already indicated this previously. So, I'm off to prepare for our annual October Revolutskiy Party Meeting. We'll be planning for our 5 Year Plan announcements. 

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[Brent Meeker]

That's not censoring, that's just a private company's decision not to publish something.  It's their right you know...freedom of speech, property rights, free market.  Hawley is perfectly free to spend his own money publishing or get somebody else to take the risk.  Just like I could publish my own newspaper whenever the L.A. Times "censors" me by not publishing my letter to the editor.

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[John Clark]

Comrade spudboy100 wrote:

> Right, I'm Communist Comrade!

Right, the very definition of a communist is somebody who doesn't believe in private property, and apparently you don't; you want the government to use force or the threat of force to make an individual print a book written by a traitor even though they don't want to.  

 

> I gave you one example out of several which you stated, "I'm not going to go through all of those!"

And I told you to narrow down your list and give me your best one, and you did, and the one you sent me, the best one you had, stank to high heaven.  

>The only traitors by your definition are ones traitorous to the Corporation

No, traders are people, including senators, who want to ignore the constitution and have a President of the United States simply ignore an election that he lost and stay in power indefinitely. If that's not a traitor then the word has no meaning. 

 

> There's a Class Warfare being conducted by the Woke Globalist boards of directors against the US Middle Class.

I can find articles for this claim,

Please don't dump 12 dozen links from 12 dozen questionable sources about this because that is not what we were discussing. I asked you to provide me with one single example of a corporation, a university or a media outlet engaging in censorship, and you proved yourself to be completely unable to do this.  

On another subject, by what tortuous logic did you conclude that Trump's enormous tax break for himself and the ultra mega rich was not directed against the US Middle Class?

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[Brent Meeker]

On 8/23/2021 12:29 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

Trumpy is gone gone gone. It is the progressives (funded by globby corporations) who were obsessed with the guy. In the US,

Then why is every GOP politician, with a handful of exceptions, continuing to support the Big Lie that Trump won and the election was fraudulent.  Why are they all afraid to breathe a word against his corrupt, divisive, stupid policies that killed half a million fellow citizens?

Brent

[spudb...@aol.com]

They the RNC pushes the idea because it sell$. It may gin up donation$ just like democrats. Campaign donations are what all politicians require to win elections. No mountain of cash? no win! It's practically a mathematical axiom now. What about vote fraud casing Joe to win? If Trump or anyone else really had anything, it would've been out by now. Was it a possibility, yes. Motivation? Wall Street lost expected monies by Trump's Tariff's on Xi's China. Thus, Wall Street had the motivation. Did, they do it? No evidence!!!

On China, you are simply ignoring that other lands do not have foolish, misguided, leadership as well as the US. The virus (I am guessed was being fiddled with) was supposed to wipe out HK, wasn't supposed to go worldwide, and if it did, the CCP just shrugs because, so what? I believe it escaped because of poor lab control as was mentioned by a US biologist who went their in 2017. Analogy here, because Stalin was a mass murderer, doesn't mean the Hitler was not and vice-versa. You can hate Trump and his voters to death, but this view doesn't make the Taliban or Xi our chums. Many on your team do not care about this apparent fact.  So I will leave you with this choice quote from Leon Trostky- nee' Brownstein. 

"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!"

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It is censoring, and no I shan't let you all of a sudden switch to capitalist free enterprise guy, while holding a basic socialist world view. They all do in fact censor. It is organized by the media elites and Wall Street, especially those that are woke, and China facing. Twitter bans Trump but permits the Taliban and Ayatollahs, Xi, and so forth. No I won't respect the rights of corporations to edit with their own "living documents" fobbed together by their Crony Capitalist Boards of Directors. Crony Capitalism is not Free Enterprise, it is Corporatism.  

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My quotes included Newsweek, solidly pro Joe.

Yeah, I am not wedded to supporting Crony Capitalist Corporations that support the DNC. I am also distrustful of the National Association of Manufacturers with their love of Rep Cash. My sources were not questionable simply because I always anticipate you will state that as a complaint so I will quite Washington Post quite a lot. 

A traitor to the DNC is emphatically not a traitor to the US Constitution. Trump's economy is always Rich centered. Did you not think I knew he was a billionaire egotist? People voted for him because of Obama. Hilly being his walk-on in 2016. I say, and who cares what I say, is that we should try as a people supporting any polls that fund the US middle class. That this would fix lots of societal issues. Will this ever occur? Not sure except the bad times we are heading will force the middle class to act out of desperation and rage. 

Best you should ask when and not if. The ruling class or globalists and their politicians are quite bright never brilliant, and remind me of the Ruling Class that led the world into a disastrously bad  war in 1914. 

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On 8/24/2021 1:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

It is censoring, and no I shan't let you all of a sudden switch to capitalist free enterprise guy, while holding a basic socialist world view.

Sorry comrade, you have absolutely no control over my opinions and politics...and no grasp of the facts either.  Try looking up "censorship" in a dictionary.

Brent

[spudb...@aol.com]

I shan't. Because I know what motivates against the Bill of Rights and what doesn't. That you side with your Crony Caps that financially support your DNC candidates is no surprise at all. Then, all of a sudden Team Dem starts writing like Adam Smith on property rights. (Protect Our Woke because some animals are more equal than others!)  Funny!  On a more serious topic, this Indian Youtube report on the Chinese economy indicates that the CCP has spent more than 282% of Gross Domestic Product to sustain its economy. Indicating to me that its not just US Leftists that spend like drunken sailors. I couldn't confirm the assertion in this video on Google so who knows if its true? Starts at 3:59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8OTIggPWw

All Power to the US Middle Class!  

Comrade Spudsky, tovarsich. 

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Comrade Spudboy100 wrote:

 

> Yeah, I am not wedded to supporting Crony Capitalist Corporations

That is not surprising, all Communists hate Capitalistic corporations. But I am not a Communist, I love Capitalism!

 > I am also distrustful of the National Association of Manufacturers with their love of Rep Cash. 

That is not surprising either, all Communists hate money, or at least claim they do. 

 

> A traitor to the DNC is emphatically not a traitor to the US Constitution.

I can't imagine a more traitorous act than violating your oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and conspiring with a President to stay in office after his term of office has expired even though he lost his bid for reelection in a landslide. And yet that is exactly precisely what Josh Hawley,Ted Cruz, and dozens of other Republican senators and representatives did. History will never forgive them. The iconic symbol of the Republican party can no longer be Abraham Lincoln, now it should be Benedict Arnold or Aaron Burr.

 

> Trump's economy is always Rich centered.

Obviously. And yet you claim to be pro middle-class. It's stuff like that that gives self-contradiction a bad name. 

> Did you not think I knew he was a billionaire egotist?

I thought you did not think, and I still think so.

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[John Clark]

Comrade Spudboy100 Wrote:

> It is censoring,

Perhaps you're right, perhaps refusing to give somebody a megaphone which you own is "censoring" in the Spudboynian language meaning of the word, but unfortunately the only person in the world who understands that self invented tongue is Spudboy100 and I am only fluent in English. And in English the word means something entirely different.

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Regarding the Spudboynian language, I think what we need is a new Rosetta Stone. So I humbly suggest that Spudboy100 translate a known text, say the US Constitution, into Spudboynian, then perhaps someday a brilliant linguist, a new Champollion, can use that to understand the Spudboynian language and figure out what the hell you're talking about.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

CNBC

October 16, 2020 byline Brian Schwartz

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/wall-street-donors-line-up-behind-biden-in-massive-third-quarter-fundraising-haul.html

From the article link above-

"KEY POINTS

• Joe Biden’s joint fundraising committees benefited from a wave of big money contributions from finance leaders on Wall Street and across the country during the third quarter.
• Biden’s fundraising strength has grown as the election gets closer. The Democratic nominee raised $383 million in September.
• People in the financial industry have largely favored Biden, spending more than $50 million to back his candidacy, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, compared with more than $10 million for Trump."
• So, your claims of DNC virtue have headed to the commode, even from your own media. Claims of virtue perished when Obama ordered  FBI  spying on Trump in 2016. What hasn't happened yet is economic troubles, then because we can't have a country with you (or even nice furniture) we will likely Split.

Obama/FBI. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53784048

Also, the progressive hunger for power over the rest of us has not gone unnoticed Mr. Constitution. Any excuse will do, Covid, Police, White Supremacy, this was your team in action, and this behavior is getting noted (worldwide apparently).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9924171/Washington-State-high-schools-faces-controversy-asking-students-wear-COVID-ankle-monitors.html

So lets see, your team is funded by Blackrock, wants to defund the police, opened the borders, loves freedom but censors, and just got another dozen marines killed in Afghanistan due to the ideology. Was it worse than Bush 43 "nation building?" Naw! I compare and contrast, this is what progressives whine about with their failing 'whataboudism' invented word. So right now Joe can walk away from that in time for the 22 election, because as I have indicated, democrat voters, no care. China may care, Putin may care, the Ayatollah's may care, The Devil may care, but not the voter base. You're good! They will not be able to walk away from inflation or covid however.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Me no translate JC. Consider it an intellectual challenge. 

Rather than a personal faux pas on my part maybe you need consider for a moment, that it is an indicator of the state of the world?

From what I see, we have a supposedly liberal party accepting cash donations hand over fist from, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, in all their elitist glory, and support positions that promote dismantling of the police, not jailing street thugs, open borders which forces US workers to compete (you are right there with what was The Koch Brothers), economic polices that favor the globalist$ who pay the DNC as well as the RNC, which benefits only a hostile China, a progressive world view that we now see playing out in Afghanistan, and so forth. 

I was interested in your take on Tesla's DoJo machinery however. Ah ! quel monde !

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