A question for Trump supporters

[John Clark]

The states of Colorado in Maine want to remove Trump from the presidential ballot because of Section 3 of the 14th amendment which  says:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

The case now goes to the Supreme Court, I know that Trump supporters want the court to keep Trump on the ballot, but if it's OK to just ignore the 14th amendment, why isn't it also OK to just ignore the second amendment and confiscate all your guns? But the court has never been very good at self consistency, and given the makeup of the court at this time I would be astonished if it didn't rule in Trump's favor; hell the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas was part of the mob that attacked the capital on January 6 as they were in the middle of counting the electoral votes to determine the next president. That is a clear-cut conflict of interest so if Thomas had any ethics he'd recuse himself from voting on this question, but I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of him behaving ethically.

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[Brent Meeker]

And it would be of huge benefit to the Republican party for Trump to be disqualified.  As it is, he's going to pull down some Congressional Repugs with him, just like he did in 2020.  The polls say Haley and DeSantis would both do better against Biden than does Trump.

Brent

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[John Clark]

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 2:42 PM Brent Meeker <meeke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And it would be of huge benefit to the Republican party for Trump to be disqualified. 

If Congress had convicted Trump in either of his impeachment trials he would've been disqualified from running for president again, and I'm sure if it had been a secret ballot he would have been convicted because I would estimate about 80% of Republican elected officials can see the damage that Trump has caused to the nation and to the world just as clearly as you and I can. But for them remaining it office is more important than the existential harm he can cause, and for any Republican elected official being anti-Trump is political suicide.  And so more likely than not, during the Singularity meatgrinder the most powerful human being on Earth will be Donald J Trump, a man so stupid he doesn't know how to spell AI.  

  The polls say Haley and DeSantis would both do better against Biden than does Trump.

 

Yes, but unfortunately the polls also say if the election were held today Trump would still easily beat Biden. And I'll be damned if I understand why, the Covid pandemic is over, the inflation spike is over, unemployment is lower than it's been since 1969 and the GDP of the US is growing faster than any other western nation. It must be Drag Queen Story Time, low flow toilets, and those damned windmills that cause cancer.  

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On 1/6/2024 1:06 PM, John Clark wrote:

The states of Colorado in Maine want to remove Trump from the presidential ballot because of Section 3 of the 14th amendment which  says:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

The case now goes to the Supreme Court, I know that Trump supporters want the court to keep Trump on the ballot, but if it's OK to just ignore the 14th amendment, why isn't it also OK to just ignore the second amendment and confiscate all your guns? But the court has never been very good at self consistency, and given the makeup of the court at this time I would be astonished if it didn't rule in Trump's favor; hell the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas was part of the mob that attacked the capital on January 6 as they were in the middle of counting the electoral votes to determine the next president. That is a clear-cut conflict of interest so if Thomas had any ethics he'd recuse himself from voting on this question, but I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of him behaving ethically.

7tt

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