DeepMind AI Discovers Better Algorithms for Foundational Computing

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John Clark

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Jun 11, 2023, 10:34:56 AM6/11/23
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If this is not an example of an AI helping to develop a smarter AI then I don't know what is. People are gonna be having a very hard time trying to convince themselves this is just a glorified autocomplete program. 


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Jun 11, 2023, 2:10:08 PM6/11/23
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No objection to this at all, as long as it can make new medical discoveries that lead to new cures, innovations in energy that we humans missed, and the lot. If AI cannot help our species, I say its worse than dangerous, it's useless to us!

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Brent Meeker

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Jun 11, 2023, 5:52:04 PM6/11/23
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The next level will be when an AI makes itself smarter.

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Tomasz Rola

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Jun 11, 2023, 7:14:30 PM6/11/23
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On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 02:52:01PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
> The next level will be when an AI makes /*itself*/ smarter.
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> Brent

But, but, how are humans going to measure its smartness (to know, for
one example, that it is not faking its own progress).

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Russell Standish

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Jun 11, 2023, 7:14:58 PM6/11/23
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I haven't read the original article, but given the timing, I believe
this was the application of AI in a competitive environment to
optimise sorting algorithms of short sequences (<8 items, IIUC).

Which reminds of work done by Danny Hillis (of Thinking Machines fame)
in the late 1980s who set up a coevolutionary genetic algorithm to
evolve sorting algorithms that beat classic sorting algorithms. ISTM -
they've just rediscovered his work.

Danny has a paper in the ALifeII proceedings describing that work.

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John Clark

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Jun 12, 2023, 7:41:57 AM6/12/23
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On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 7:14 PM Tomasz Rola <rto...@ceti.pl> wrote:

> But, but, how are humans going to measure its smartness 

By using a stopwatch. An Artificial Intelligence has recently found a machine language sorting program that is smaller and faster than anything any human being has seen before. And a Artificial Intelligence has also found a fundamentally faster way to multiply matrices, and nearly every large program needs to multiply matrices at some point, especially if the program involves graphics or, you guessed it, Artificial Intelligence. To me that certainly sounds like the sign post of an exponential process in the making, and exponential processes tend to end in a singularity.


to know, for one example, that it is not faking its own progress

In this case it would take more brain power to successfully fake its progress then it would take to actually make real progress.  
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Jun 12, 2023, 2:59:56 PM6/12/23
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Moreover, as an engineer, how would you apply this and to accomplish what? 

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Jun 12, 2023, 3:02:35 PM6/12/23
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Isn't it fair to state that we will measure its intelligence, by what it actually accomplishes? Things that impact us humans.


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