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mike mackenzie-grieve

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Jul 28, 2013, 7:03:27 PM7/28/13
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hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

Carlos García

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Jul 28, 2013, 8:33:24 PM7/28/13
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I agree, it is a really nice board!
Only missing an automatic way to power the 48V spindle, but that is also missing when using Sanguinololu.

Thanks,
Carlos


2013/7/28 mike mackenzie-grieve <mike.di...@gmail.com>
hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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i think it has a outbut for a spindle but i thing it is for a v5 relay, or are you thinking more like a relay on the board.?


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Oh right, that's a good solution, I was thinking of regulating the speed (but a relay is still the simplest).


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Jul 28, 2013, 8:42:39 PM7/28/13
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ah i was thinking more or less that you did not want to regulate the speed on the spindles, mind you i am fairly new to the pcb mill end of things, i have built a few repraps though.


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Stuart Mitchell

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Aug 2, 2013, 7:50:06 PM8/2/13
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HI..

I'm going to get some of these sheild made, I only need a few for myself, I happy to send the rest to cyclone uses for $3.00 for the PCB only which is just to cost postage.
If interested please e-mail me @ auzzemit at gmail.com 
they will be 2.01V

Stuart Mitchell

Carlos García

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Aug 2, 2013, 9:45:25 PM8/2/13
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Great idea! For that price I want three of them!

Maybe you can create a Google Spreadsheet so people can sign up easily.



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HI..

I'm going to get some of these sheild made, I only need a few for myself, I happy to send the rest to cyclone uses for $3.00 which is just to cost postage.
If interested please e-mail me @ auzzemit at gmail.com 
they will be 2.01V

Stuart Mitchell


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poor guy will not have any left to buy soon.


On Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:45:25 AM UTC, Carlos García Saura wrote:
Great idea! For that price I want three of them!

Maybe you can create a Google Spreadsheet so people can sign up easily.

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HI..

I'm going to get some of these sheild made, I only need a few for myself, I happy to send the rest to cyclone uses for $3.00 which is just to cost postage.
If interested please e-mail me @ auzzemit at gmail.com 
they will be 2.01V

Stuart Mitchell


On Monday, July 29, 2013 9:03:27 AM UTC+10, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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@Stuart: Where will you order them? I'm in even if it is more than $3/board :)


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Carlos

The pcb have been ordered from seeedstudio, should have them in 2 weeks.
I have odered 10 pcb, I'm keeping 2 for myself, 2 have been taken, so there is 6 left.

The pc's are free, so all you are paying for is postage, so 1 board is $3.00, 2 are $4.00. to make it fair to others the max limit is 2 per person but if I need to I will order more.

Thanks
Stuart Mitchell


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@Stuart: Where will you order them? I'm in even if it is more than $3/board :)
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:09 PM, mike mackenzie-grieve <mike.di...@gmail.com> wrote:
poor guy will not have any left to buy soon.


On Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:45:25 AM UTC, Carlos García Saura wrote:
Great idea! For that price I want three of them!

Maybe you can create a Google Spreadsheet so people can sign up easily.

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HI..

I'm going to get some of these sheild made, I only need a few for myself, I happy to send the rest to cyclone uses for $3.00 which is just to cost postage.
If interested please e-mail me @ auzzemit at gmail.com 
they will be 2.01V

Stuart Mitchell


On Monday, July 29, 2013 9:03:27 AM UTC+10, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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I get it now: in that case I want two :P
Thanks!


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I would love to take a board off your hands.

If there are any still available please put me down for one.

Thanks.

Rob.

mike mackenzie-grieve

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anyone look at what we would need to port the firmware to the arduino for this board.

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I believe the software being used is Marlin which is written for the Arduino.

Specifically it will run on the Mega2560 or Mega1280 boards and maybe others.

Most boards used by the reprap community are derivatives of Arduino boards. My Prusa printer uses an Arduino mega1280 with a shield on top. (The RAMPS board).

mike mackenzie-grieve

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i was thinking more in terms of  pin outs and making the code smaller, i cant remember off hand how much memory my due has. but i know all the mega's have a lot more memory.

i can get things to work in code if i utterly have too, but it is far from something i am good at, but i love my hardware though.




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The Uno has 32Kb, the Mega1280 has 4 times the ram at 128Kb.

There is a lot of features that can be dropped from the Marlin code, but I have no idea how much space that would save. I am not familiar with the code. I would not know where to start to be honest. I don't think my maths is good enough to attack the code.   suspect the positioning code would be beyond me. I know a lot of work went in to it, but how it works and how the motors are kept in sync with each other to get the tool to follow a specific path I have no idea.

We will ned to either go through Marlin and understand it of write something new, which will be a big job I suspect.  Might be easier to pick up an AVR or the right flavour and build a board for it.

As for pin-outs, this can be changed in the Marlin code and compiled all in the arduino ide. It is very configurable. Most of it is in the configuration.h file I think.  Don't quote me on that. Don't have the code handy atm.



On Saturday, 10 August 2013 23:20:49 UTC+1, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
i was thinking more in terms of  pin outs and making the code smaller, i cant remember off hand how much memory my due has. but i know all the mega's have a lot more memory.

i can get things to work in code if i utterly have too, but it is far from something i am good at, but i love my hardware though.


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I believe the software being used is Marlin which is written for the Arduino.

Specifically it will run on the Mega2560 or Mega1280 boards and maybe others.

Most boards used by the reprap community are derivatives of Arduino boards. My Prusa printer uses an Arduino mega1280 with a shield on top. (The RAMPS board).



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anyone look at what we would need to port the firmware to the arduino for this board.

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Correction. The pin definitions are in pins.h
Just had a quick look.

mike mackenzie-grieve

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lol well i do know that the last version of marlin i compiled without the lcd support was a little over 50KB but i think that there could be a lot of fat to take out with out too much work. we are not using PID functions or temp reading functions but how to do it properly is out of my skill set too.


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Had a quick look at the code for Marlin. I'm no expert at programing but I think it will take some unpicking to remove the parts of the code that are not needed for this project.  I have no idea how much memory that would save, but I suspect there would be other things to be added in the future. This being the case I would think it would be easier to pick up a cheap Arduino knockoff from ebay to run the machine rather than rewrite the code to fit a smaller processor.
This would future-proof your controller against improvements made to the firmware as development goes on.  I can see the SD card and LCD options being useful in this project as well. Better to have a little overhead for future expansion rather than be stuck with a smaller controller that  could only handle the basic setup.

Just my opinion. I have been proved wrong in the passed and will be again no doubt. :)




On Sunday, 11 August 2013 00:16:03 UTC+1, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
lol well i do know that the last version of marlin i compiled without the lcd support was a little over 50KB but i think that there could be a lot of fat to take out with out too much work. we are not using PID functions or temp reading functions but how to do it properly is out of my skill set too.
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The Uno has 32Kb, the Mega1280 has 4 times the ram at 128Kb.

There is a lot of features that can be dropped from the Marlin code, but I have no idea how much space that would save. I am not familiar with the code. I would not know where to start to be honest. I don't think my maths is good enough to attack the code.   suspect the positioning code would be beyond me. I know a lot of work went in to it, but how it works and how the motors are kept in sync with each other to get the tool to follow a specific path I have no idea.

We will ned to either go through Marlin and understand it of write something new, which will be a big job I suspect.  Might be easier to pick up an AVR or the right flavour and build a board for it.

As for pin-outs, this can be changed in the Marlin code and compiled all in the arduino ide. It is very configurable. Most of it is in the configuration.h file I think.  Don't quote me on that. Don't have the code handy atm.



On Saturday, 10 August 2013 23:20:49 UTC+1, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
i was thinking more in terms of  pin outs and making the code smaller, i cant remember off hand how much memory my due has. but i know all the mega's have a lot more memory.

i can get things to work in code if i utterly have too, but it is far from something i am good at, but i love my hardware though.


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Robsbots <r...@robsbots.org.uk> wrote:
I believe the software being used is Marlin which is written for the Arduino.

Specifically it will run on the Mega2560 or Mega1280 boards and maybe others.

Most boards used by the reprap community are derivatives of Arduino boards. My Prusa printer uses an Arduino mega1280 with a shield on top. (The RAMPS board).



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the good news is that you can use this boad with a mega too, so we could still use another arduino with no issues, and get that extra functionality.

i wonder though how much extra code gets put onto the arduino that is there for other hardware, or dose the arduino ide strip all that out i wonder.


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You configure your controller and attached hardware (lcd/card reader etc) in the configuration files and the compiler selects the code to be compiled according to those #define's.

If you have a heated bed, code for this is compiled in. I don't think there is a huge amount of code that is compiled if that particular hardware is not used, BUT as the code was written for a printer, there are some things that are 'built in' such as extruder temp sensing etc. You have to have this with a printer. This could be removed at some point. We would need to create a branch of Marlin for this project then start recoding the parts required, and removing the parts that are not required for a mill.

Marlin is a good place to start though I think. Its had a lot of development and seems fairly bullet proof.  We can use it as a platform to build from.

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that would be a good idea. but i am far from the best person for that job, witch is what kinda sucks.

but i do think that a off shoot from marlin is a good idea. i just got a smart controller form my mendel and i am loving the lcd functionality.


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I'm in the same boat.  But the code does seem to be self documenting. Good variable and function names etc, so it may be a good place to start learning some serious coding. That's my plan.




On Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:41:19 UTC+1, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
that would be a good idea. but i am far from the best person for that job, witch is what kinda sucks.

but i do think that a off shoot from marlin is a good idea. i just got a smart controller form my mendel and i am loving the lcd functionality.
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You configure your controller and attached hardware (lcd/card reader etc) in the configuration files and the compiler selects the code to be compiled according to those #define's.

If you have a heated bed, code for this is compiled in. I don't think there is a huge amount of code that is compiled if that particular hardware is not used, BUT as the code was written for a printer, there are some things that are 'built in' such as extruder temp sensing etc. You have to have this with a printer. This could be removed at some point. We would need to create a branch of Marlin for this project then start recoding the parts required, and removing the parts that are not required for a mill.

Marlin is a good place to start though I think. Its had a lot of development and seems fairly bullet proof.  We can use it as a platform to build from.

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i will have to see what i could do too, i am off work for the next 2-3 weeks but i will be busy with treatments


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Currently I'm only working part time. It means little cash but plenty of free time. I have just got up and running with my printer, so nows the time to build my fab lab.  :)

1. Huxley
2. Cyclone
3. .............



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i will have to see what i could do too, i am off work for the next 2-3 weeks but i will be busy with treatments
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I'm in the same boat.  But the code does seem to be self documenting. Good variable and function names etc, so it may be a good place to start learning some serious coding. That's my plan.




On Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:41:19 UTC+1, mike mackenzie-grieve wrote:
that would be a good idea. but i am far from the best person for that job, witch is what kinda sucks.

but i do think that a off shoot from marlin is a good idea. i just got a smart controller form my mendel and i am loving the lcd functionality.
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Robsbots <r...@robsbots.org.uk> wrote:
You configure your controller and attached hardware (lcd/card reader etc) in the configuration files and the compiler selects the code to be compiled according to those #define's.

If you have a heated bed, code for this is compiled in. I don't think there is a huge amount of code that is compiled if that particular hardware is not used, BUT as the code was written for a printer, there are some things that are 'built in' such as extruder temp sensing etc. You have to have this with a printer. This could be removed at some point. We would need to create a branch of Marlin for this project then start recoding the parts required, and removing the parts that are not required for a mill.

Marlin is a good place to start though I think. Its had a lot of development and seems fairly bullet proof.  We can use it as a platform to build from.

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i started with a Huxley and then that built my Mendel. but i need to redo my Huxley.

its good to try new things the way i see it, i really should learn more about how to program, but i always get nailed in my syntax.


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I started with a Prusa that I sourced all the parts for locally, but never got thaitt to print reliably.  I think it was software setup.  I will go back to it at some point.  Recently I bit the bullet and brought a kit from Reprap pro for the Huxley and had that up and printing in a day or so.  I had a bit of trouble when I changed filament but I'm up and running now.  I still have a few issues to work out but its running well enough to keep me busy.

Re the programming, Marlin is written in C which is very tight on syntax.  Some people love it, some hate it.  I can recognize the different parts of a c program but I'm not a good coder by any stretch of the imagination.  I would love to be able to write something like Marlin. I tend to check out the help for a command, or a bit of demo code and start hacking that to make it do what I want. I still have a lot to learn on that front, but my code is generally just for what ever project I happen to be working on and never gets seen by "real" coders or used in a production environment.

Good job too. :)

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its neat seeing what people are doing now. i am looking forward to being able to make some more of my ideas into better things. i made a night like for my aquarium that flickers, i wanted it to mimic stars.  but with this i could make much better boards for it, 


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My plan is for robotics (hence the handle). With a 3d printer and the ability to easily make pcb's I should be unstoppable.  Might even be able to turn it into a business one day.

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i am not all that much different, but i want to keep it more of a hobby.

though i would like to get my friend in Portsmouth England into this hobby i think he would find it very handy.


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Firefox has gone a bit odd. Might need a reboot but I'm in the middle of a print.

Robotics is a hobby with me. Anything involving a PC, a micro controller or a motor will keep me out of trouble for a few hours.
I'm sick of working for other people and so would love to start up on my own.  I have found that tech in the UK is far too expensive compared to the US and would love to try and server the maker/hobby market in this country and maybe try to make a living doing it.

What does you UK buddy do ?

Where abouts are you based ?
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this is what my buddy dose, http://www.realitytech.info/index.php, in a pretty small way i am also involved but its really just on paper only.

i am in swift current Saskatchewan Canada, its a small city even for this province, but we are getting bigger, but i am originally from Calgary AB.

my wife is slowly learning to keep me away from computer stores and hobby stores. i love to fiddle with way too many things.


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If you want to check TEACUP firmware you will see that its so small it can fit in an ATMEGA328P, like all the Arduino UNO, add 3 motor drivers, and you have all the electronics you need to control one Cyclone factory :D

Thinking of this, it would be a great idea, to make a little RAMPS like board for the UNO to use as electronics for the Cyclone, it will be a compact one ;)


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Is Teacup still being developed ?
I haven't heard much about it lately.
Everything Reprap seems to be Marlin.

Would be interesting to check out the code and see how easy it would be to hack and add any milling features that would be useful.


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Its still alive, yeah :D looking at his github, has changes 21 days ago... :D so yes.

Marlin its the most named in the reprap comunity, but its not the only one :P

TEACUP as is, has all the features one can need to make milling, "read" gcode, do it, and also if you want, control one relay to activate the spindle.


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I totally forgot about teacup. I think that would be the best option by far.

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I think the same, it looks like the best tiny option :P

Anyway CarlosGS (the creator) may have something to add about this hehehehe if he comes around here and comment about it will be so great, althought i think he is out for vacances... dont really know :P


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We could get his feedback by starting a thread on the reprap forums

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@Iceflow: Unfortunately I'm not out for vacances but with too much work :P

Don't know much about the firmwares, but I trust in simplicity.
With the reduced speeds of a mill we don't even need path planning (in fact it would be safer not to have it).

I will give a try to Teacup for sure, thanks for the note Iceflow :)



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i think i will give teacup a look too. 

having less features to get out i think is a very good thing.

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Maybe the right board will be this one:

http://www.buildlog.net/blog/2011/08/stepper-driver-arduino-shield/

It has socket for a fourth driver that can be changed to a relay, to control de spindle :D the bad thing is that the gerber files to do the boards are in ART extension... this is no so good to send to a PCB service :( to buy the boards at 12$ + shipping for one unit go here:

http://www.reactivesubstance.com/shop.html

Im thinking on try with one board :D

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hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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A year ago or so I started porting Teacup on a Atmel 32u4(arduino Leonardo) but then I left the project when I started building my 3d prtr.

I did not use git or bitbucket so I need to find it on my backups.

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HI..

the PCB arrived today, so I will get them in the post tomorrow due to a big work load keeping me inside..

They are 3 PCB left,

Stuart Mitchell

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Cool how well did they come out.?

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the PCB arrived today, so I will get them in the post tomorrow due to a big work load keeping me inside..

They are 3 PCB left,

Stuart Mitchell

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hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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HI..

They look great, I hope to get one built tonight and tested, so I will post some images as I go.
Also thinking I will order 10 more and the parts and sell as a kit.

Stuart

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Cool how well did they come out.?

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the PCB arrived today, so I will get them in the post tomorrow due to a big work load keeping me inside..

They are 3 PCB left,

Stuart Mitchell

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hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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I ordered 10 from seedstudio a couple of days ago, waiting for the arriving to test and see if its useful as it seems :D

The board is dam simple to solder, so little components in it :D


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Hi Stuart,
Can you send me one board in Paris please ?
Give me your PayPal email in private so I can pay you back.

Thank you
Alex

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HI..

the PCB arrived today, so I will get them in the post tomorrow due to a big work load keeping me inside..

They are 3 PCB left,

Stuart Mitchell

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hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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Yup, they look awesome!
As I said, I would like to get two :)

Send us privately how should we do the payment whenever you are ready.

Thanks,
Carlos


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HI..

just a quick update, all people who ordered and paid for the PCB's, these have been posted and I hope you should see them in a week or 2.

Thanks
Stuart

PS, I still have 2 PCB's left.

Alex

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Hi Stuart,
Thank you :)
Hope to have my Cyclone ready when I receive it !

+
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Hi Stuart.

Thanks very much.

Rob.

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Hello all!!

I have just received 10 boards today, i will keep two for my self, the other 8 are available if someone wants it...

I can send the bare board, the board as a kit with all the components to solder, or the board soldered, just throwme a mail or tell me in here, without problem :D

Regards!!

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Here are some pics of the boards.

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@iceflow I am interested in a couple of boards, can you tell me how much is it going to cost 2 kits to solder + postage to Cork Ireland?

Thanks,


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2013/9/3 <ais...@gmail.com>
Hello all!!

I have just received 10 boards today, i will keep two for my self, the other 8 are available if someone wants it...

I can send the bare board, the board as a kit with all the components to solder, or the board soldered, just throwme a mail or tell me in here, without problem :D

Regards!!

El lunes, 29 de julio de 2013 01:03:27 UTC+2, mike mackenzie-grieve escribió:
hey i found this on hackaday.com a few days ago, i think this might be a appropreat board for a project like this.

http://blog.protoneer.co.nz/arduino-cnc-shield/

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Sep 7, 2013, 2:51:00 PM9/7/13
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Already send you a mail yOPERO :)


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Sep 18, 2013, 2:13:50 AM9/18/13
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Hi all.

I have this board, and an Arduino Mega1280. I have wired up some micro switches to be normally open.
I have tried this set up with both Marlin and Teacup but have been unable to get the switches to work. I have connected with pronterface and after issuing the M119 command I don't seem to get reliable results from the switches.

I havn't tried with the current Marlin set up for the Z probing yet.

I must be missing something somewhere.

Does anyone have any ideas ?

Thanks

Rob

Iceflow

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Sep 18, 2013, 3:39:09 AM9/18/13
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You have the right board selected in the firmware?  what are the conections that you try between the switch and the electronics?


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Forgot to say.
Is there somewhere in the code to set the internal pull up resistors ?


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Sep 18, 2013, 4:06:45 AM9/18/13
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Hi Iceflow

I have taken the definition for the RAMPS in the pins.h file and changed it as below :-

#define X_STEP_PIN          2
#define X_DIR_PIN           5
#define X_ENABLE_PIN        8
#define X_STOP_PIN          9

#define Y_STEP_PIN          3
#define Y_DIR_PIN           6
#define Y_ENABLE_PIN        8
#define Y_STOP_PIN         10

#define Z_STEP_PIN          4
#define Z_DIR_PIN           7
#define Z_ENABLE_PIN        8
#define Z_STOP_PIN         11

#define E0_STEP_PIN        -1
#define E0_DIR_PIN         -1
#define E0_ENABLE_PIN      -1

#define E1_STEP_PIN        -1 // 19
#define E1_DIR_PIN         -1 // 18
#define E1_ENABLE_PIN      -1

#define E2_STEP_PIN        -1 // 17
#define E2_DIR_PIN         -1 // 16
#define E2_ENABLE_PIN      -1

#define SDPOWER            -1
#define SDSS               -1
#define SDCARDDETECT       -1 // 10 optional also used as mode pin
#define LED_PIN            -1
#define FAN_PIN            -1
#define PS_ON_PIN          -1
#define KILL_PIN           -1

#define HEATER_0_PIN       -1
#define HEATER_1_PIN       -1 // 12
#define HEATER_2_PIN       -1 // 13
#define TEMP_0_PIN         -1 //D27   // MUST USE ANALOG INPUT NUMBERING NOT DIGITAL OUTPUT NUMBERING!!!!!!!!!
#define TEMP_1_PIN         -1 // 1
#define TEMP_2_PIN         -1 // 2
#define HEATER_BED_PIN     -1 // 14/15
#define TEMP_BED_PIN       -1 // 1,2 or I2C

I think this should be correct.
I currently only have 2 switches connected to X- and X+ both of which go to pin 9 on the Arduino.


Iceflow

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In configuration.h in marlin at least, you can set the pullup resistors.

I dont understand, you have set the two switches to the same pin? i think that each need its own pin...

When i asked for the conection i mean what cables you put in the switches and where they go in the electronics, i mean VCC, GND and SIGNAL

That defines you put in the mail are only commands for the motors, not for the endstops... you need to seek for the pins for the endstops.


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Just replied to your post but it got deleted some how :(

Oh well. I'll have another go.

Just check the pullup settings in the configuration.h file and they are set.

I'm using the shield at the top of this post with the Arduino Mega1280.

If you check the schematic for the shield it shows the end stops share a pin for each axis. The X axis end stops both share pin 9 on the arduino, Y is 10 and Z is 11.
The switches for the end stops are wired to be normally open and short the corresponding pin to ground when triggered.

In the pins.h file each axis is defined.  The step, direction, enable and then the STOP_PIN. This is the shared pin for both end stops for each axis.

If I can figure this out I should have a working machine, but I don't want to run it without end stops. There is far to much torque there if I have a problem and the machine could rip itself apart.

Thanks

Rob

Iceflow

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Sep 18, 2013, 6:43:53 AM9/18/13
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You can invert the logic of the endstops and also configure if the internal pullups are used, all in configuration.h

In the reprap printers, the endstops are usually used as NC... maybe you can try it that way...

http://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_1.4#Mechanical_Endstops


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Not really sure what was wrong, but I have re done the config in the pins.h file.  Check the configuration.h file and I seem to have working end stops. Just need to make up four more switch cables. mount the the switches and I should be read for a test run.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks guys.

Rob

Iceflow

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Sep 18, 2013, 9:03:23 AM9/18/13
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Great :D


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End stops (and most control switches) are always wired as NC (normal closed) as a safety feature,
If the switch fails or the wire breaks etc. the process will stop.

-John

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Hi guys

That's a good point Johnboy. I'll fire up the soldering iron in a mo and switch the wires round on the end stops and change the config file for Marlin.

I have fallen foul of another problem. It's hardware/software related.

When the X Axis hits the min end stop pin 9 is pulled to 0 volts and the stepper stops.
All well and good.
Unfortunately it will not move away from that end stop because the X Axis max end stop is showing low. (Both stop's share the same pin)

So Iceflow. You're right. I do need separate pins for each end stop. They can't be shared.

Time to break out the perf board and knock up a little interface for some spare pins on the mega. Might chuck a relay on there as well for the spindle and a connector for the Z probing.

Once I've cracked that, its time to start playing with the software.

I'm getting closer. I can almost smell a new pcb. :)



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Stop and take a look at what you are doing if you have a problem in the Martin firmware.
 
I am using an AzteegX1 3d printer board and it is just like the Sanguinololu.  The Cyclone
firmware I downloaded from gethub worked without a single change, the homing directions,
end-stop setting etc were all correct...

-John

Robsbots

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I now have all the end stops working, and the steppers stepping.

I have been using pronterface to test. I have not run any G-code though it as yet. Just testing the movement and end stops.

My next step is to get the software installed and test the cyclone for real.




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If you tested the machine with pronterface you have tested gcodes :P pronterface only send gcodes for you... hehehhe


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anyone have a firmware that is working for this board yet.?

i have a busy week and was hoping to do a little testing, but i dont have much time.

Iceflow

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GRBL compatible 100% :D


El 26 de octubre de 2013 12:33, mike mackenzie-grieve <mike.di...@gmail.com> escribió:
anyone have a firmware that is working for this board yet.?

i have a busy week and was hoping to do a little testing, but i dont have much time.

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lol wow now i am feeling a little slow, i did try to use it, but i never uploaded it, because i was looking for something more like marling where i had a configureation.h tab

i will have to work on learning how to use it.

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I never used GRBL but i dont think it will be so hard to use it, ok, its not marlin, but it can be that hard :D

Let us know your progress!!


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lol wow now i am feeling a little slow, i did try to use it, but i never uploaded it, because i was looking for something more like marling where i had a configureation.h tab

i will have to work on learning how to use it.

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Why not run Teacup.  Traumflug has been using it for years to mill his Gen7 boards...

Peter


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Iceflow

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I think its not ready to use with this board, not "plug&play" you have to change pins.h and so on...


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But thats easy (;  i dont mind doing that for the community (;  can pull it from schematics

Peter

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It will be so good if you do a "special" version with the pins needed for this board :D you can use teacup or better marlin hehehehe but dont know if marlin will fit the 328p :(


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I am running teacup on a 328p for my 100w lasercutter (;   will take a nack tonight at the Pins then ask Traum to add it permanently

Samuel Kranz

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Marlin is quite big.. I think it has about 50kb code.. I dont think it fits on a 328.. Maybe with dopping a lot of features (lcd, ..)

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yeah, its better to think directly on teacup, it runs from a 168, the 328 will be plenty enough :P


El 29 de octubre de 2013 15:30, Samuel Kranz <secu...@gmail.com> escribió:
Marlin is quite big.. I think it has about 50kb code.. I dont think it fits on a 328.. Maybe with dopping a lot of features (lcd, ..)
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