Survey of Pragmatic Semiotic Information

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Jon Awbrey

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Jul 23, 2023, 3:12:49 PM7/23/23
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Survey of Pragmatic Semiotic Information • 7
http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2023/07/23/survey-of-pragmatic-semiotic-information-7/

This is a Survey of blog and wiki posts on a concept of information
as it develops out of pragmatic semiotic ideas. All my projects are
exploratory in character but this line of inquiry is more open‑ended
than most. The question is —

• What is information and how does it impact
the spectrum of activities answering to the
name of inquiry?

Setting out on what would become his lifelong quest to explore
and explain the “Logic of Science”, C.S. Peirce pierced the veil
of historical confusions obscuring the issue and fixed on what he
called the “laws of information” as the key to solving the puzzle.
The first hints of the Information Revolution in our understanding
of scientific inquiry may be traced to Peirce's lectures of 1865–1866
at Harvard University and the Lowell Institute. There Peirce took up
“the puzzle of the validity of scientific inference” and claimed it
was “entirely removed by a consideration of the laws of information”.

Fast forward to the present and I see the Big Question as follows.
Having gone through the exercise of comparing and contrasting Peirce's
theory of information, however much it yet remains in a rough‑hewn state,
with Shannon's paradigm so pervasively informing the ongoing revolution
in our understanding and use of information, I have reason to believe
Peirce's idea is root and branch more general and has the potential,
with due development, to resolve many mysteries still bedeviling our
grasp of inference, information, and inquiry.

Regards,

Jon

Shann Turnbull

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Jul 23, 2023, 8:03:44 PM7/23/23
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Jon
Please explain how: "Shannon's paradigm so pervasively informing the ongoing revolution our understanding and use of information”?

Shannon (1948: 1) makes it quite clear in the third sentence of his second paragraph of his paper on “A mathematical theory of communication” at https://people.math.harvard.edu/~ctm/home/text/others/shannon/entropy/entropy.pdf that: “These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem."

Does not this mean any use of the word “information” when it refers to meanings in communication is irrelevant to how may so called social scientists, and philosophers, use the word "information”?

Regard 
Shann

Shann Turnbull PhD; Principal: International Institute for Self-governance stur...@alumni.harvard.edu
PO Box 266, Woollahra, Sydney Australia, 1350, Cell: +61 (0) 418 222 378 Bibliography at: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h9muSf_cKnjRfDRGAy_4lbujIgEthPM4/view 


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