Cliff Swallows Nesting

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Diane Holsinger

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Jul 12, 2019, 9:08:28 PM7/12/19
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Located under the eaves at the Best Western near Pagosa Springs Wyndahm
29-25 Nests of Cliff Swallow
They were power washed down all the birds destroyed
Eggs & young on the ground

It was a sick site

So horrible

Is there any suggestions from the list serve about what could be DONE situation

Diane Holsinger

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Jul 13, 2019, 7:32:25 AM7/13/19
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I would call your district CPW officer and see if they can give them a fine, but I don't know, I think the migratory bird treaty act has been gutted? Brenda
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Crystal Wilson, Englewood, Co

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Jul 13, 2019, 8:47:02 AM7/13/19
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This is horrible. Get photos if you can. Definitely contact CPW, and alert everyone you can think of (i.e.local Audubon groups). And most importantly, the Best Western responsible and their corporate office. Tell them you will let people know how they treat our native birds. People who spend lots of money traveling to see birds. Post it on Twitter. Shame the heck out of them. In the end, nothing much of anything may happen to them from a legal standpoint, but maybe they can actually learn something from the power of word of mouth.

Crystal Wilson
Englewood, Colorado/ Arapahoe County

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Jul 13, 2019, 8:51:49 AM7/13/19
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The US Fish and Wildlife Service used to have the legal capability of fining them for violating the migratory bird treaty act, I don't know if that is still in force, with the given administration, but it wouldn't hurt to tell them you are contacting the FWS. I for one, will not stay at that hotel in the future. Brenda


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KevyG...@aol.com

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Jul 13, 2019, 9:14:09 AM7/13/19
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Contact the Colorado Parks & Wildlife office.

Janis Robinson

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Jul 13, 2019, 9:38:12 AM7/13/19
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I'm having difficulty finding this hotel -- is it the Wyndham Pagosa resort on Pinon Causeway?
I'm in the Wyndham rewards program and want to contact them.


On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 7:08:28 PM UTC-6, Diane Holsinger wrote:

Michael T

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Jul 13, 2019, 10:33:49 AM7/13/19
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The current interpretation of the MBTA is that the people that did the power washing had to be power washing with the INTENT of killing the birds and not just cleaning. That is the only way it would be enforceable. CPW might be helpful to turn this into an "educational opportunity" for the hotel.

I personally would not only contact the hotel and it's corporate office, I would go to their FB page, expressing your opinions and share pictures with the public. These days your only outlet might be to try them in the court of public opinion if your pleas fall on deaf ears.

Then I am a little militant in that respect. Just my two cents.

Michael Tincher
Fort Collins


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Joey Angstman

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Jul 13, 2019, 10:39:12 AM7/13/19
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You could also contact local news agencies. They have the ability to investigate and can get in contact with business owners. If it makes the news, the issue will also reach a wider audience.

Joey Angstman
Greeley, CO

Ira Sanders

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Jul 13, 2019, 6:39:13 PM7/13/19
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I talked to my sister-in-law who is a NWR mgr and she said that the feds prefer that state wildlife officers handle these issues under state law. 
Cobird contributors have mentioned intent as a necessary element of violating the MBTA. I submit that putting a pressure washer in your hands, causing the water to flow and aiming the water at the Cliff Swallow nests constitutes intent. Being stupidly oblivious to the obvious activity around the nests would not be a defense.
Ira Sanders
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