grinding for keeved cider

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Wes Henricksen

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Nov 4, 2025, 2:10:02 AMNov 4
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Hi all,

I made my own grinder using the 'whizbang' grinder schematics (https://whizbangcider2.blogspot.com/2017/02/whizbang-cider-2.html).  Its a modified garbage disposal.  It works quite well, but produces a fairily finely ground mash.  I feel like I read somewhere that a more coarsely ground mash for keeved cider is preferred but can't now find the reference and feel like I maye be just making this up.  Is a coarser grind better for producing keeved cider?

Thanks everyone,
Wes

James Turner

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Nov 4, 2025, 6:33:56 AMNov 4
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I don’t know the answer to your keeving question but if you do decide you want a courser mash it is possible with some disposal models to disassemble the grinding unit to access the shredder ring. I enlarged the ring openings with a Dremel and file. I’m happy with the mash consistency. It works well with OESCO press cloths.
Cheers,
Jim

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Wes Henricksen

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Nov 4, 2025, 2:45:23 PMNov 4
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thanks!

CGJ

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Nov 5, 2025, 4:46:08 PMNov 5
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Jim,

Can you specify what brand and model disposal you have, and also what
size you opened the ring openings to? (I'm using the same concept, but
am finding my "mash" is extremely fluid and I have a hard time with my
rack and cloth press load shifting.)

Thanks,
Carl Johnson
West Barnstable
Massachusetts

James Turner

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Nov 5, 2025, 7:45:20 PMNov 5
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Carl,
It’s been a while since I made the grinder and press.The disposal came from my son’s kitchen redo.  I think it was an older Insinkerator model. Maybe an Evolution. All the ID goes away when the original motor is removed. The key feature is all stainless grinding parts. The grinding ring has rectangular teeth and openings resembling a jack-o-lantern. I think I removed the bottom half of every other tooth. My press uses circular racks same as the original Whizbang. I use a pneumatic truck shock for compression. This allows me to quickly stop compression and adjust the rack if things begin to shift.
Cheers, 
Jim

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CGJ

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Nov 6, 2025, 9:58:24 AMNov 6
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Jim,

Great information!

I easily found diagrams and breakdowns of the Insinkerator Evolution
online, and what you've done makes perfect sense now. I see that my
"Waste King" was also designed to be serviceable  with full parts
breakdown available online, so I may try a similar approach.

Many thanks for the lead,
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