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Hi Tobias,
> first off, happy new year!
Please forgive my lack of manners. Happy New Year!
> The documentation has improved a lot since then, and we've just recently hired someone to help here. But yes, we've been hearing this a lot: "you guys do incredible work, but the docs suck".
This is good to hear, but comes a little late.
> The cool thing is: you can write your custom authentication/authorization code in _any WAMP supported language_!
This is very cool.
> Apart from authentication/authorization, what other features does your custom router have?
Various custom logging, a modular plugin system (reusable), and many months of infrastructure and integration that will need to be tossed.
> "uncalled":
>
> I am not a native speaker, so I am sorry if I get upset wrongly, but "uncalled" .. forgive me: we don't wait for you to call us to do something or not.
No.
> If "uncalled" would mean "unneeded", then: you don't judge what's needed or not for this project.
No, but closer. I mean I believe that there is rarely a time when the right call is to break backwards compatibility. Of course, it is quite presumptuous of me to assume where the project is headed. I apologize for that.
> Then: as far as I can tell, this is the very first posting by you on this list, right?
Yes.
> So what exactly have _you_ contributed to this community? You didn't even care to _announce_ that you use this stuff, that you wrote a custom router, not to speak of trying to get your custom code integrated upstream.
I contributed a WAMP1 client (which you posted). I opened _several_ issues, and I spoke up from time to time on IRC. All this has happened over the past year. My involvement is minimal, so I do not expect you to remember me. I am sorry if I overstepped my bounds.
The reason I do not announce everything is that unfortunately I am not _allowed_ to discuss most of my work. I try to contribute where I can.
> Seriously, this attitude (again sorry if I misunderstood) does make _me_ disappointed.
I definitely said some things I should not have. I was honestly hoping this was the last rewrite I would have to do and was just putting on the finishing touches. I was quite distraught when I upgraded to the latest version and saw all my work break. My post was too emotional. I am sorry about that.
> No, you can and should demand more, even though it's free;) This is a community, but the model is "benevolent dictator". Stand up, have your say. You _will_ be heard. Ask other users here or elsewhere: I may be hard to discuss with, but in the end, good arguments convince me, and the final outcome then is far superior.
I have noticed this. You have taken my suggestions in the past. Thank you.
I will take you up on your offer then. I ask that the project offer long term stability.
> Let me ask a question: do you think the benefits of WAMP2 outweight the break with WAMP1?
Well... Yes and no. Theoretically, yes. Practically, there had been no complete, stable Advanced Profile WAMP2 implementation I can use. So, no.
> There is always a stretch between moving forward, inonvating, and keeping the state of affairs.
Stability is a requirement for me. After the switch to WAMP2, I assumed (I guess "hoped" is the better word), things would settle and begin to mature.
> Let's make it concrete: I am willing to assist you porting your custom authentication/authorization code to Crossbar.io.
Your kindness is truly appreciated. I think the biggest problem is infrastructure changes and how my router was integrated. I will post later with an example of my authentication stack and maybe we can see if it has a place in crossbar.
Thank you for the quick reply.
-Yury
You are right on all points. I would however add the counter point that breaking _major_ functionality on _minor_ version changes (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4) is considered bad form. At least for the WAMP2 change there was a full mid version worth of warning and a transition period where both were supported.
This was barely a month. I suppose it would have happened eventually.
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Hi Tobias,
Just to clarify, the database backend is for authentication. The password hashes for CRA need to be stored somewhere.
Anyway, thank you for the feedback. I will try to migrate as much as possible to crossbar.
-Yury
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