FOSS4G Birds of Feather session: Sustaining a training documentation pipeline
Cameron Shorter
I think a number of things are serendipitously coming together to create
the perfect opportunity to establish collaborative building and
maintaining OSGeo training material in general, and QGIS in particular.
(Templates, processes, tool chains developed for QGIS could be rolled
out to other projects in future releases).
I was talking with Andrew Jeffrey and Chris Milne yesterday about
setting up a Birds of a Feather session at the FOSS4G conference in
Melbourne next week to discuss this. Andrew and Chris mentined that
their employer, Chartis Technology is keen to collaboratively build QGIS
training.
Sarah Maddox, tech writer from Google, is launching a "Google Season of
Docs" [1], from which we might be able to tap into experienced tech
writer resources.
I'm hoping that once we get momentum going, we could draw in
universities from Geo4All. Some universities already have good training
material we can start from.
I'm interested from an OSGeoLive perspective - drawing from our existing
community and extending our established documentation pipeline to also
include training material.
If you are interested to be involved, then speak up (and/or look for
details of the BoF session once we find a venue and timeslot).
[1]
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ABqCc5uAoQv9aqGCxmNqOJ9S_Tst-adNV3fcWQ2Quwc/edit#slide=id.g42b115f18c_0_0
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Are you anticipating this being a training course or a set of training material (e.g. some overview presentations and tutorials) that could be used in a course? What kind of delivery mechanisms do you anticipate (e.g. face-to-face, self-paced, etc)? Who do you anticipate the training audience to be? What would the training outcome(s) / competencies be? Would this include assessment?
Brad
Cameron Shorter
the project. A challenge of funded open source (and open training) is
sustainability after the funding drys up. I'm hoping we can help address
sustainability by spreading maintenance across multiple community
members and funding sources.
Brad, you are asking some really good questions which I'm hoping we can
collectively discuss. I personally don't have an agenda for format or
delivery mechanisms. I think we should be thinking about big vision,
determine who wants to contribute and what their priorities are, and
then focus on what we can sustainable build to address immediate needs
and material we can already make use of, and also do our best to attract
an active, international community of maintainers. Feel free to share
your suggestions.
Cheers, Cameron
On 17/11/18 9:43 am, br...@frogmouth.net wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> Are you anticipating this being a training course or a set of training material (e.g. some overview presentations and tutorials) that could be used in a course? What kind of delivery mechanisms do you anticipate (e.g. face-to-face, self-paced, etc)? Who do you anticipate the training audience to be? What would the training outcome(s) / competencies be? Would this include assessment?
>
> Brad
> I'm looking forward to this session. Thanks for organising it.
> I helped set up a QGIS MOOC with content created by, and created for,
> Pacific Islanders.
> The project that got it going is winding down; it would be nice to see
> it continue.
> Here is the link: http://pacgeo.org/edu/
>
Cameron Shorter
I'm looping in suggestions from Charlie, Suchith and Thomas from the Geoforall community.
Hi Cameron,
Wonderful to hear about this initiative! As many know, we've tried to develop collective action around the community development of FOSS4G educational material for years -- a hard nut to crack! Perhaps this will develop the critical mass to make it happen! I agree with your "big vision".
A couple thoughts:
1) Any discussion of Summer of Docs that would provide paid opportunities for students working with faculty/OSGeo projects?
That might lead to even more productivity (think - educational content summer internships with OSGeo projects or faculty to develop open access educational materials).
2) One repository -- GeoAcademy, and obviously, QGIS' tutorials
Materials by Kurt Menke, Rick Smith, John Van Hoesen and Phil Davis: http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/. I believe Rick had set up a GitHub project for storing the source. Not sure of update status. Obviously coordination with the QGIS project and their tutorial page would be useful.
3) To start - organize a "curriculum outline"?
It would be helpful to collectively develop an overarching curriculum (perhaps building on the GeoAcademy work) or identify content areas? And a focus on not only introduction but more advanced materials, and thought provoking exercises and data, not just tutorials. For example, I'm working on a new class on data analysis of environmental data collected by quadcopters with multispectral sensors. I'd be willing to contribute what I develop to this effort.
4) Organize for Modularity
I'd encourage a modular strategy rather than complete course work, and organize by topic area, and don't put rules on content format to encourage submissions and less "rule friction."
5) There is the issue of where various content would be hosted. But if we can get collective action/organization around material development that issue can be addressed next.
Good luck FOSS4G Oceania folks! I hope you can get this started! If a group forms, add me to the list, please.
Thanks
Charlie Schweik
Here is what Philip Davis’s Group has completed via QGIS. I use his materials in my classes and workshops
Tom
Thank you for this excellent information. May I also request you to invite representatives from universities and educational organisations at the conference to join GeoForAll through our website form. Really hoping we get more educational organisations from the region joining us and building momentum.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:40 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron...@gmail.com> wrote:
Geoforall community,
FYI: At FOSS4G Oceania this coming week we plan to discuss the possibility of creating universally maintained QGIS material, with an eye to eventually building this the cover all OSGeo training material.
If there are initiates already in place that we should be aware of, and should be aligning with, then please let us know so that we can include them in our discussion.
(See below for our local discussion so far)
Warm regards, Cameron
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Cameron Shorter
break at 12:45pm-:13:30pm in room 263. Grad some lunch and come up.
This looks like a good starting point for material:
On 19/11/18 1:06 am, Mueller, Thomas wrote:
> Here is what Philip Davis’s Group has completed via QGIS. I use his
> materials in my classes and workshops
> https://foss4geo.wordpress.com/
Cameron Shorter
There are currently a number of at FOSS4G-Oceania Community Day, talking about developing QGIS training material.
We are aiming to collate ideas that people have been floating around.
I'm looping in these ideas from Kurt and Phillip.
We had this idea for the GeoAcademy material from the outset. We envisioned having 'curriculum sprints' modeled after code sprints. The material on the Spatial Query lab is up on GitHub already.
Currently the most up-to-date version of the GeoAcademy lies in my book Discover QGIShttps://locatepress.com/dqw which I am currently updating to QGIS 3.4Kurt
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Phillip Davis <pda...@delmar.edu> wrote:
Works for me. I'm glad to help
From: Cameron Shorter <cameron...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 1:48:31 PM
To: Phillip Davis; Kurt Menke, GISP; Lene Fischer
Subject: Re: FOSS4G Birds of Feather session: Sustaining a training documentation pipelineI'm thinking that where we should be heading is moving GeoAcademy into an Open Source project framework.
At the moment, it appears that we have lots of people wanting to help, but they are lost finding a place where they can meaningfully engage and help out. (Maybe 5 to 10 people who are quite seriously offering their services).
So probably set up an email list, a project steering committee, a git repository and then invite people to start collaborating, identify tasks, divide up work, create schedule and release date and so on.
Phillip, Kurt, Lene,
Do you think this will work?
On 20/11/18 6:38 am, Phillip Davis wrote:
Cameron always good to hear from fellow FOSS advocate. The GeoAcademy initiative is docile at the moment. That effort was fueled by a large US DOL grant we completed in 2015. All the material is still available, for free as I posted just today in FB and Twitter and located at: http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/. Not certain best recommendations for sustaining an effort other than leverage the new website OSGeo recently launched. It's always one, two or three dedicate fanatics that keep a project alive and sustained over the years.
I would be interested in hearing from Kurt and Lene, two leading geoeducators in the field on their thoughts to your question. I would very much like to present a talk at the FOSS4GNA in San Diego April 2019 on the topic if you can pull together a coherent plan of action from experience their in Downunderland over next three months.
Cheers
Phillip
From: Cameron Shorter <cameron...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 1:04:38 PM
To: Phillip Davis
Subject: FOSS4G Birds of Feather session: Sustaining a training documentation pipelineHi Philip, are you the right person to talk to about GeoAcademy?
It appears that the people in Australia wanting to develop QGIS training should be latching onto the GeoAcademy initiative?
For people interested in advancing sustainable OSGeo education material, how would you suggest they get involved? (I'd like to take your answers to this into the Birds of a Feature discussion we have in 24 (and/or 48 hours).
(You might want to read the email thread so far).
Assuming it is ok with you, I'm planning to share your answers publicly.
Cheers, Cameron
On 19/11/18 1:03 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
We are using the GeoAcademy QGIS course also for the UN Open GIS Capacity Building. Thanks for the great work they have done!BestMaria
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Here is what Philip Davis’s Group has completed via QGIS. I use his materials in my classes and workshops
Tom
Sent from my iPadHi Cameron,
Thank you for this excellent information. May I also request you to invite representatives from universities and educational organisations at the conference to join GeoForAll through our website form. Really hoping we get more educational organisations from the region joining us and building momentum.
Best wishes,
Suchith
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Subject: [Geo4All] Fwd: Re: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather session: Sustaining a training documentation pipeline
Hi QGIS and FOSS4G folks,
I think a number of things are serendipitously coming together to create the perfect opportunity to establish collaborative building and maintaining OSGeo training material in general, and QGIS in particular.
(Templates, processes, tool chains developed for QGIS could be rolled out to other projects in future releases).
I was talking with Andrew Jeffrey and Chris Milne yesterday about setting up a Birds of a Feather session at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne next week to discuss this. Andrew and Chris mentined that their employer, Chartis Technology is keen to collaboratively build QGIS training.
Sarah Maddox, tech writer from Google, is launching a "Google Season of Docs" [1], from which we might be able to tap into experienced tech writer resources.
I'm hoping that once we get momentum going, we could draw in universities from Geo4All. Some universities already have good training material we can start from.
I'm interested from an OSGeoLive perspective - drawing from our existing community and extending our established documentation pipeline to also include training material.
If you are interested to be involved, then speak up (and/or look for details of the BoF session once we find a venue and timeslot).
[1]
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ABqCc5uAoQv9aqGCxmNqOJ9S_Tst-adNV3fcWQ2Quwc/edit#slide=id.g42b115f18c_0_0
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