Affordable x86 android distribution with talkback

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Olivencia Garcia

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Jun 26, 2019, 5:24:17 PM6/26/19
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Hi everyone, how are you? It's a pleasure to be on the list with everyone. I really like the Android x86 platform, it allows to use in android straight from the desktop. This is good when the phone is charging and we need to test or reply to messages. I would like to know if you already have a picture of it with TalkBack integrated, voice speaking during installation, and after the system is installed. I have been TalkBack user for a few years, and I look forward to having autonomy in everything I do. just do not ask eye friend is already good size. The bad is when we are alone and have no one to help. then we do not work, without the vision there is no way, but with the ears, everything becomes easier. If it does not, it would be of great use to us blind that such an image be implanted. since to a large number of android users with some kind of disability. I want to congratulate the developers by the prject, and if possible, ask this suggestion. because I need a lot. From now on I thank you all and have a good night of peace.

Chih-Wei Huang

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Jun 26, 2019, 11:01:03 PM6/26/19
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Thank you for the feedback.
However, I have no idea about talkback.
If you know how to add it, welcome to submit patches.

Olivencia Garcia <olive...@gmail.com> 於 2019年6月27日 週四 上午5:24寫道:
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> Hi everyone, how are you? It's a pleasure to be on the list with everyone. I really like the Android x86 platform, it allows to use in android straight from the desktop. This is good when the phone is charging and we need to test or reply to messages. I would like to know if you already have a picture of it with TalkBack integrated, voice speaking during installation, and after the system is installed. I have been TalkBack user for a few years, and I look forward to having autonomy in everything I do. just do not ask eye friend is already good size. The bad is when we are alone and have no one to help. then we do not work, without the vision there is no way, but with the ears, everything becomes easier. If it does not, it would be of great use to us blind that such an image be implanted. since to a large number of android users with some kind of disability. I want to congratulate the developers by the prject, and if possible, ask this suggestion. because I need a lot. From now on I thank you all and have a good night of peace.


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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 26, 2019, 11:45:33 PM6/26/19
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So friend, I found out a few days ago, that it has an installation image
spoken with jenux with the android and the post installation talkback. But
I'm not able to install because my level of English is very basic, and the
synthesizer placed is a bit bad for understanding ... Both in android x86
and in Jenux, could be implemented more languages ​​at the time of
installation ...
If friends can help me by implementing this feature from the image I have I
am grateful. The link is below:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1m3IeNGVi4Iia0_t8tD-wvhsqOe2ThAbJ
At times I look for a way to access the android on the desktop but without
solution ... It would help me a lot to do multiple tasks when I do not have
the phone in use.
I apologize for the material I'm sharing being a competitor, but it's the
only way to present a possible x86 accessibility implementation. It will be
very useful to us.

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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 26, 2019, 11:53:25 PM6/26/19
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A, I forgot to say. I'm from Brazil, so the level of English is low and the
suggestion to put languages ​​in the installation of android x86, like
Portuguese.
For the friends to understand, this uncertain image after the boot, the
speech synthesizer already starts speaking. To walk on the options, use the
up and down arrows to select, enter. we do not use mouse, everything
keyboard, and the options narrated by the voice synthesizer.

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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:42 AM

Chih-Wei Huang

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Jun 27, 2019, 12:02:48 AM6/27/19
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Felipe Garcia <olive...@gmail.com> 於 2019年6月27日 週四 上午11:45寫道:
>
> So friend, I found out a few days ago, that it has an installation image
> spoken with jenux with the android and the post installation talkback. But
> I'm not able to install because my level of English is very basic, and the
> synthesizer placed is a bit bad for understanding ... Both in android x86
> and in Jenux, could be implemented more languages at the time of
> installation ...
> If friends can help me by implementing this feature from the image I have I
> am grateful. The link is below:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1m3IeNGVi4Iia0_t8tD-wvhsqOe2ThAbJ

What's that iso?

It's better to ask the author of that iso to send
patches to us. Thanks!

> At times I look for a way to access the android on the desktop but without
> solution ... It would help me a lot to do multiple tasks when I do not have
> the phone in use.
> I apologize for the material I'm sharing being a competitor, but it's the
> only way to present a possible x86 accessibility implementation. It will be
> very useful to us.


Felipe Garcia

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Jun 27, 2019, 12:07:10 AM6/27/19
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the bad thing is that I do not have contact with him ... I sent him an email
for a few days, but I did not get an answer ... If the friend prefers not to
touch the image, I'm sorry, I understand, because it's out of context ...
that's what I thought which in this image, has what it needs to integrate
accessibility in the x86 android ... But how can I explain to the friend to
include the same in the project? My explanations regarding accessibility are
in the email I sent almost now ... Would it be possible?

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Chih-Wei Huang

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Jun 27, 2019, 12:27:45 AM6/27/19
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Felipe Garcia <olive...@gmail.com> 於 2019年6月27日 週四 下午12:07寫道:
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> the bad thing is that I do not have contact with him ... I sent him an email
> for a few days, but I did not get an answer ... If the friend prefers not to
> touch the image, I'm sorry, I understand, because it's out of context ...
> that's what I thought which in this image, has what it needs to integrate
> accessibility in the x86 android ... But how can I explain to the friend to
> include the same in the project? My explanations regarding accessibility are
> in the email I sent almost now ... Would it be possible?

I assume that iso is a derived work of android-x86
(android-x86 + accessibility?)
If so, they should upstream their patches to help more people.

For example, see this article for more explanations:
https://inform.tmforum.org/features-and-analysis/2017/05/upstream-first-building-products-open-source-software/
especially the "‘Upstream first’ and why it is important" part.

Felipe Garcia

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Jun 27, 2019, 10:08:42 AM6/27/19
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Yes friend. Got it. Are you a developer?
I'm not a pianist, just a user.
How can I contact the developer?
If it is not possible to adapt the x86 android for now, could someone send
me an apliance of the installed post system to emulate? Once installed, I
can turn on accessibility.
Appreciate.
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Jon West

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Jun 27, 2019, 6:30:00 PM6/27/19
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This looks to be from this project potentially: https://jennios.com/projects.html (scroll down to the Jenux Installer (x86_64)) although the link is dead, so I doubt it was a recent project. 

Felipe Garcia

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Jun 27, 2019, 9:34:30 PM6/27/19
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Yes, I even contacted the developer, but so far no response. The strange thing is that in the image of jenux has the android 9, so I guess it is not so outdated so ...
The bad thing is that this page has many broken links ... I am waiting for developer response ...

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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 27, 2019, 11:57:03 PM6/27/19
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If it is not possible to implement accessibility in the x86 android image, and if it is a very laborious project, could any of my friends send me a vm with the latest android and talkback enabled? Then the rest of the set up to good with the screen reader running.
It would be to use in Virtual box or Vmware. If any friend can grant me this TtI am grateful. I really need the android and at the moment I do not have anyone with vision to help.
If you can not do it for reasons of day-to-day running, could you tell me some website where I can download virtual machines with Android installed.
Thank you very much and thank you in advance for all those who can help, and those who can not, paid attention.

Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:31 PM

Austin Pinto

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Jun 28, 2019, 12:11:02 AM6/28/19
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hi.
i will contribute patches.
to make it accessable although this will mean that another iso will
have to be uploaded on android x86 website as this iso will start
talkback when booted.
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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 28, 2019, 7:25:48 AM6/28/19
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Hi friend, you here? Thank you and it will be very useful. it is always good
to make everything that helps accessible, this is great and deserves
attention nowadays. Thank you for your understanding to explain your friend
better.
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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 28, 2019, 7:47:24 AM6/28/19
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For those who interested, I found vms of android x86.
https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/
But I still do not rule out the idea of ​​putting accessibility on the x86
android, and I'm together with anyone who wants to do it next to me.
Thank you.

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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:22 AM

Felipe Garcia

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Jun 28, 2019, 10:08:50 PM6/28/19
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Hello folks, just one question, these vms that contain the emulated android.
Does the room have the Portuguese language Brazilian or English only?
I downloaded and tested it here. I'm amazed how the project did not put
accessibility in your computer image and emulators, I had to download
TalkBack!
Guys, I do not want to be boring, even though it's an open source project,
let's think about accessibility! I do not say this for myself, but it
happens to the more people I look for, and they need accessibility on a
day-to-day basis. need the others to read the screen is as much as
unconformable content. it is not legal to fill people's patience with our
content, especially when they do not understand what we want to say, or do
not understand the system / application.
We need to be independent, whether at home or at work. we will not always
have someone in our lives. autonomy is essential.
I am a user with no vision. I like to be independent and to show people we
are capable. Let's learn from each other. you for giving us the autonomy we
need, and we for enjoying the good factories!

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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:44 AM

Felipe Garcia

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Jun 28, 2019, 10:09:08 PM6/28/19
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Austin Pinto

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Jun 28, 2019, 10:37:44 PM6/28/19
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Felipe Garcia

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Jun 28, 2019, 10:40:08 PM6/28/19
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No, you have to integrate the talckback and google voice synthesis. has been
uninstalled
I tried here at home, but, because of the ill will of the enchangers to help
me, without success.

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DDS Central

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Jun 29, 2019, 8:43:44 AM6/29/19
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TalkBack is a part of Gapps, should be pretty trivial to include in build.

Jordan Livesey

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Apr 12, 2022, 1:33:45 PM4/12/22
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for those who want to install android, really our only option is really genux, its based on arch linux, so you may need to turn secure boot of, sidenote, you can not upgrade talkback to the latest version, I recommend going for android 9 pie when it asks, android 8 failed to boot or kept erroring and there is a bug in android 7.1.2 that prevents you from getting past the setup screen after you select the option when it asks if you want to copy data, other than that its a farely stable android system, another thing I found out is that the android 4.4 iso files do include talkback, but I do not think there is a way to enable it, unfortunately unlike android 9 I could not get my old lenovo laptop to boot to a graphical setup, to turn talkback on on any android device, you would press both volume keys together
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