Defaul User ID and Password

[Dodo Smiff]

I flashed my DNS-323 with the Alt-F-0.1RC3-DNS-323.bin firmware and rebooted the system.

I have not been able to discover the initial User/PW combination to get started with configuration.

The only display I am given is the status. When I attempt to login I see a page with two boxes to enter Password and Again.

I have searched far and wide on the internet for the correct data to no avail.

I have used the reset button for 20+ seconds to begin again multiple time plus power down.

I know precisely what the IP of the box is and the Admin user and password combo before flashing.

I have attempted 'root', 'Admin', and my administrator User ID, and any other combo that I may have found or heard about.

I can Telnet to 192.168.x.x and receive a 'Login' prompt but no combination from there works either.

I would appreciate some help because at the moment I have a brick when what I wanted was a more robust server.

[Bert Broekhuizen]

I flashed my DNS-323 with the Alt-F-0.1RC3-DNS-323.bin firmware and rebooted the system.

I have not been able to discover the initial User/PW combination to get started with configuration.

The only display I am given is the status. When I attempt to login I see a page with two boxes to enter Password and Again.

I have searched far and wide on the internet for the correct data to no avail.

There is no default username and password for Alt-F.
When you run  Alt-F for the first time, you have to enter a new password twice.
That's wat the two boxes are for: the first one to enter your new password and the second one to enter it again, to make sure that you didn't make a typing error.
 

[DodoSmiff]

Thanks for your prompt response.
What you described is what I had understood to be the initial procedure.
However, the first time I started Alt-F, I carefully entered the same password in the two boxes.
After that when I attempted to select a menu item I am presented with a display showing a single box requesting the password.
My assumption was this is a verification process.
When I enter my password in the single box, there is a slight pause then the same screen is redisplayed requesting the password followed by a redisplay of the status page.
And again any entry after that always returns to the single password box.
When I use the 20-second reset procedure and restart the box I am again presented with the initial 2 box password entry and verification.
At that point I just repeat everything again with no success in entering the configuration panels.
Q. Is there any way to display the stored PW or to re-initialize the box at the first time start page?

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[Joao Cardoso]

have you read the login online help? using special characters in the password?

Please do the 20 sec reset and try with a simple 'foobar' like password.

solved? Please report back what character was causing the problem

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[DodoSmiff]

Totally dumbfounded. I performed the 20 second reset, accessed the DNS-323, received the 2 box password and again screen, entered a password and this time the box came alive.
The only difference between this attempt and previous was I used password abc123. Prior to this I had attempted several simple and complex passwords. I don't understand but I am able to access the configuration panels so I guess that is all that really matters.
Thanks for assistance and patience.

On 7/10/2013 4:58 PM, Joao Cardoso wrote:

have you read the login online help? using special chars in the password? do the 20 sec reset and try with a simple foobar passwd. solved? report back what the problem was.

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[João Cardoso]

On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:41:26 AM UTC+1, Dodo Smiff wrote:

Totally dumbfounded. I performed the 20 second reset, accessed the DNS-323, received the 2 box password and again screen, entered a password and this time the box came alive.
The only difference between this attempt and previous was I used password abc123. Prior to this I had attempted several simple and complex passwords. I don't understand but I am able to access the configuration panels so I guess that is all that really matters.

Good. Probably browser cache effects?

I would like to know if there is something wrong with the password setting, would you mind trying the "complex" password again?

If using "non-legal" characters you should receive a warning saying what the acceptable characters are:

Use only ASCII characters and no spaces for the password: allowed are

letters, numbers and ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / : ; < = > ? @ [ \ ] ^ _ ` { | } ~

What browser was you using? Please read the IE top-post topic.

Also, you don't have to do the 20-sec reset thing, a greater that 10 and lesser that 20 sec reset will allow you to telnet as the 'root' user on port 26 without password, without clearing all your settings (what the 20-secs procedure will do)

[DodoSmiff]

I will test the password setting again but it will be a few days before I can get to it.

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[DodoSmiff]

I have completed testing the password settings and remain uncrtain why I had trouble the first time. Maybe the browser cache effect you mentioned.
I can confirm that an invalid character in the password causes a popup message explaining the acceptable characters that can be used.
I tested both simple ( numbers/letters ) and complex ( numbers/letters/special characters ) and had not trouble logging on.
I did experience one major problem ( outside trying to understand Linux language and logic ( I'm a Windows person )).
At some point during testing I noticed that the DNS-323 was displaying 2 steady Orange lights, one for each drive I assume.
I had a difficult time recovering to where I could re-flash the box with D-Link firmware.
The only way I am able to explain in a language you would understand is to say I fiddled with all kinds of parameters and eventually was able to change the disk(s) to one large area with and MBR record.
At that point I was able to revert to D-link F/W.
I actually loaded Alt-F f/w three different times in all the learning, experimenting and testing I performed.
At this point I did not find a compelling reason to switch my box to Alt-F.
The areas I was interested in learning more about was the ext4 FS, GPT partition style, using the box as an FTP server, and any performance enhancements offered.
When you release the final production system I may take another look.
I found the status page to be very informative but because of my inadequate knowledge of Linux I struggled with understanding how to format the disks and build partitions the way I wanted my system to look.
And provide good security for my files.
I hope this helps.

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[João Cardoso]

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:22:49 PM UTC+1, Dodo Smiff wrote:

I have completed testing the password settings and remain uncrtain why I had trouble the first time. Maybe the browser cache effect you mentioned.
I can confirm that an invalid character in the password causes a popup message explaining the acceptable characters that can be used.
I tested both simple ( numbers/letters ) and complex ( numbers/letters/special characters ) and had not trouble logging on.
I did experience one major problem ( outside trying to understand Linux language and logic ( I'm a Windows person )).
At some point during testing I noticed that the DNS-323 was displaying 2 steady Orange lights, one for each drive I assume.

Degraded RAID array, the info should be displayed also in the Status page, and is explained in the About Buttons and Leds wiki

 

I had a difficult time recovering to where I could re-flash the box with D-Link firmware.
The only way I am able to explain in a language you would understand is to say I fiddled with all kinds of parameters and eventually was able to change the disk(s) to one large area with and MBR record.

Well, not having linux experience and fiddling  with all kinds of parameters will certainly give bad results. Even an averaged linux user can.

That's why the online help on those pages try to introduce concepts.

 

At that point I was able to revert to D-link F/W.

You could just remove the disks, reboot and flash D-Link fw back. The disks are not needed at all :-)

 

I actually loaded Alt-F f/w three different times in all the learning, experimenting and testing I performed.
At this point I did not find a compelling reason to switch my box to Alt-F.
The areas I was interested in learning more about was the ext4 FS, GPT partition style, using the box as an FTP server, and any performance enhancements offered.
When you release the final production system I may take another look.

There will be no differences. Alt-F is stable as it is now, only minor fixes are expected.

 

I found the status page to be very informative but because of my inadequate knowledge of Linux I struggled with understanding how to format the disks and build partitions the way I wanted my system to look.
And provide good security for my files.
I hope this helps.

Yes, definitively.

The D-Link fw is also linux based, the difference is what and how thinks are presented to the user. Even your toaster is linux based :-)

For most users, the initial wizard setup will be enough, and they will not have to fiddle with settings. It "just works".

This applies to both linux and non-linux users, I expect.

But if you really need fiddling, Alt-F allows you to do that, while D-Link don't. And if you are even more experienced, you can even use the command line for the ultimate experience.

A much more generic and way better alternative to Alt-F is Debian, but you have to resort to the command line -- that is, in my view, the main (and only) advantage of Alt-F, providing a webUI for the most common administrative tasks of a low-end NAS, and making users acquainted with some linux inner workings.

Bye,

Joao

[DodoSmiff]

Thanks for your response.
By nature and training I am picky about how my systems are laid out and want them to be in a precise structure.
Plus by fiddling around with 'things' I learn how to perform various tasks I may need to perform at some point in the future. And I learn what works and what doesn't.
At one point, I pulled the drives but did not have much luck with re-flashing so I reinstalled and reformatted so I could get to the firmware selection.

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