Re: On the Matter of Investing PENCOM Funds for National Development ...

[Mobolaji Aluko]

Segun Sanni, Imperial, and co:

We should all calm down on this issue....

First, Oshiomhole has clarified his position - see below.  It is more in tune with Imperial's interpretation.

Secondly, the suggestion is NOT that the PFAs/PFCs should not invest in Government Security and Bonds, rather that:

  (1)  the percentage required by law for that investment should be less than the current 70% - let us call it X% < 70%  -  and the balance (100-X)% spent DIRECTLY on infrastructure, etc.

  (2)  that Government's X% itself taken from the investment by the PFAs/PFCs should not ALL be spent on RECURRENT expenditure, but on INFRASTRUCTURE, etc. too.

These are not difficult recommendations to support, if we just forget about the personalities discussing them  - Oshiomhole and ourselves inclusive.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

My People:

No more need to second-guess Oshiomhole...the man has spoken clearer...he has outlined a rather sophisticated manner in which the PFAs/PFCs, rather than invest directly in infrastructure, etc.,  invest apparently in "safe" Nigerian government securities, which however in fact are a give-back to fund the government's appetite for recurrent expenditures.  This results, in a negative feedback manner, in eroding our national financial position, and on the long run, eroding the value of the retirees "deferred wages".

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

http://thenationonlineng.net/oshiomhole-clarifies-position-on-n3-5trn-pension-fund/

Oshiomhole clarifies position on N3.5trn pension fund

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Governor Adams Oshiomhole has clarified his position on the Pension fund, saying he never accused PENCOM of diverting N3.5 trillion pension funds because it has nothing to do directly with pension money in the first place.

He said, rather, his position is about how pension funds operators invest hard-earned workers’ money in FGN Bonds and Treasury Bills, which in turn was grossly mismanaged through funding consumption.

In a statement personally signed by him, Oshiomhole said: “recently, a section of news media attributed comments to me regarding the way and manner in which pension funds to the tune of 3.5 trillion Naira were drawn down to support recurrent expenditure and not infrastructure development. In the said reports, the impression created was that I had accused the National Pension Commission (PENCOM) of colluding with the Federal Ministry of Finance to divert the said amount.

“Considering the manner in which this serious economic issue that borders on the future of the Nigerian economy and the welfare of the Nigerian workers who make contributions to the pension funds, is being misrepresented and trivialized in the media, I wish to make some clarifications and set the record straight.

“As someone involved from the outset in the crafting of the PENCOM Act, I am very much aware that under the law, PENCOM is a regulator of the financial institutions and operators that deal directly with the management of the pension funds and pension assets, namely: the pension funds administrators (PFAs) and the pension funds custodians (PFCs). I could not have said therefore that PENCOM diverted pension money because it has nothing to do directly with pension money in the first place.

“Indeed, I recall that when the pension reforms, which led to the creation of PENCOM were being formulated, the selling point of the contributory pension scheme was that pension funds should be source of cheap and long-term funds that would be used to support programmes and investments that will enhance workers welfare such as workers’ housing and the creation of a robust mortgage system.

“However, what turned out in the management and operations of the pension funds was a completely different ball game. It is open knowledge that the PFAs are among the major subscribers of Federal Government of Nigeria (FGN) Bonds and Treasury Bills, which are instruments of FGN’s domestic borrowing, issued periodically by the Debt Management Office (DMO) and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) respectively, on behalf of the Federal Government. FGN Bonds as debt securities are generally considered safest relative to other debt instruments in the capital market because they are governed by the “faith and credit” principle; offer attractive rates and guaranteed returns, at least in theory.

“It is, therefore, not a new revelation that total subscriptions of pension funds to the FGN Bonds are in excess of 3.5 trillion Naira or about 70% of the total funds (estimated at 5.1 trillion Naira) so far accrued under the contributory pension scheme. It is also not a secret that in the last five years under the previous administration, the Federal Government had engaged in monthly bond issuances as a means of raising finance to fund recurrent expenditure and service domestic debts, rather than finance capital projects, which was the main purpose of bond issuance if domestic borrowing was to be a productive and beneficial activity to the national economy. These are facts that could easily be verified from the PFAs and PFCs; DMO, Securities and Exchange Commission, as well as CBN, if journalists and the media they represented have gone the extra mile to find out.

“The issue clearly was not about PENCOM diverting pension funds. It was about how pension funds operators invest hard-earned workers’ money in FGN Bonds and Treasury Bills, which in turn was grossly mismanaged through funding consumption (recurrent expenditure, payment of salaries for federal employees, financing budget deficits and domestic debt servicing) rather than concrete investment in critical infrastructure, housing, etc.

“Pensions as workers savings, rather than being invested in capital projects with multiplier effects on jobs and incomes, are being invested in bonds which go into funding wasteful recurrent spending. Spending borrowed money on unproductive ventures typically generates inflationary pressures that lead to devaluation of the currency and purchasing power of workers. The net effect is that by the time these savings are required to pay pensioners in the future their real value would have been eroded quite significantly. As we have seen even in advanced economies, such kind of mismanagement of pension funds had easily sparked economic crisis that undermined the welfare of workers and retirees.

“I have followed the recent World Pensions Summit organized by PENCOM and all through experts and analysts kept emphasizing that pension funds should be invested in infrastructure like roads, power and other productive ventures to develop the national economy. The point here is that pension funds should not be invested in instruments that mobilize funds only for unproductive and wasteful ventures.

“It is in the public domain that federal budgets in the last four years have devoted as much as 85% of the budgetary outlay to recurrent expenditures including salaries. The National Assembly on whose onus rests the approval of the budget has been lamenting year-in-year-out, this is clearly bad economics, a situation in which only a paltry 15% of the budgetary outlay was devoted to capital projects and investment in the last five years. Federal legislators have also openly complained about the fact that even the 15% capital expenditure is hardly executed fully, implying that the amount devoted to recurrent expenditure will be even much higher than the 85% reported officially.

“Based on the foregoing, let me reiterate that nothing I have said about pension funds and how they have been managed in the last five years is new. Everything I have said is in the public domain and can be verified. It behooves the media and journalists to refrain from twisting and misrepresenting critical national issues such as this one, so that they will not give individuals or institutions that mismanage the national economy an escape route to divert attention or muddle-up the issues. This is a responsibility we all owe Nigeria and the future generations.”

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:34 AM, 'Segun Sanni' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I just came off a flight, hence my replying you just now. 

You have not answered the relevant questions ‎posed to you‎. Let me ask you again, perhaps slightly differently thus:

The DMO bonds which the Federal Government just raised to refinance the extravagant spending and salary debts of Oshiomhole and other state governors, is that also about this government dipping its ‎hands into our pension funds? 

This government has also dipped its hands in the pension funds through the billions of Naira the pension funds have invested in government securities since May 2015? 

The listed companies have also been dipping their hands in pension funds through monies the pension funds have been investing in the shares of the companies? 

The government has also been dipping its hands in depositors' funds through the monies the banks invest in government securities? 

Should we stop pension funds from investing in government securities so that people like you and Oshiomhole would not think the government is dipping its hands in pension funds?

I'm laughing in Pidgin English! 

Yeyenatu!

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You are not root once again . The total amount outstanding in various government debts at the end of June 2015 is over 8trillion naira so 

Oshiomole account that 3.5 billion of the sum was financed by the pension fund makes a lot of sense .  Oshiomole's position is as easy as ABC or common senses; if the total pension funds held by different PFAs is about 5trillion naira and the law says at last 70% - 80% must be invested in government gilts and bonds, development stocks where then should 3.5trillion naira go ? Are you saying that the PFAs didn't comply with the law ? You are a top professional in this field,kindly  stop defending the incompetent regime that borrowed money at 11 to 14%pa  from the money and capital market to pay salaries and other recurrent expenses . 

Debt papers being issued by the DMO for states are not necessarily financed by the pension fund. As I earlier stated there is nothing wrong if the pension fund is used to finance the government but it better if used for remunerative ventures  not for daily or yearly expenses 

The traditional tenor for freshly issued Treasury Bills in Nigeria is 91 days although you can buy a short tenored bills by REPO or from the secondary market or from the Central Bank Discount Office. Treasury bills that exceed 91 days are called treasury certificates in Nigeria . They are issued for 6 months, a year or two years maximum . 

 

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On 8 Oct 2015, at 21:06, Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

‎Let me break it down. If you say the Fed Govt debt stock was N11 Trillion when Buhari took over, please note that that debt stock is made up of Govt Bonds, Treasury Bills, Unpaid pensions, debts to contractors, debts to banks, foreign debts, etc. How much of of the N11 Trillion is Govt Bonds? 

Now back to the questions which you've ignored: if pension funds, along with other investors, invest in government debt papers, that justifies your position that government has thus dipped its hands in pension funds? So when banks invest in government bonds, that means to you the government is dipping its hands in depositors' funds too? And when pension funds buy shares, it means those companies are also dipping their hands into the pension funds? 

And if this is your elementary interpretation of finance, it means the debt paper being issued by the DMO for bailout is also from the pension funds and so, President Buhari too is taking the pension funds? 

This was the philosophy upon which you wanted to collect $1,000?? 

I think even Oshiomhole would disown this your argument ‎if you try sell it to him as explanation for another one of his funny rants. 

Please note that Treasury bills have other tenors than 91 days. There are the Open Market Operations (OMO) T-bills of 21 days, 23 days, etc and there are 180-day T-bills and there are 364-day T-bills. 

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You like to engage in irrelevant and avoidable arguments because the total naira denominated public debt as at the time Buhari took over government was in excess of 11trillion naira of which a large chunk was financed through the various gilts issued by the CBN Discount Offce and the Debt Management Office . 

Government all over the world increase their public sector borrowing requirements through selling various government instruments to individuals, various institutions and pension funds . Treasury bills have 91 days tenor and a large chunk of the federal government borrowing is raised using this instrument while the Treasury Certificates are for six month or one year tenor and the amount in issue have been increasing over years meaning the government debt continue to increase yearly .

There is no crime in government raising debt using money from the pension fund but it doesn't make any economic sense if the fund borrowed is used to finance recurrent expenditure . It's like an unemployed or underemployed man borrowing money to buy beer and expensive dresses instead of using same to create businesses or property that would generate future income . What will happen if the government is broke, how the various PFAs recovered the funds invested in financing expenses ? 

From this debate, a new thought has come to my mind ; henceforth fund borrowed from the pension fund institutions must be invested in infrastructure or real estate which the lender could hold in case of future default .

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On 8 Oct 2015, at 16:38, Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

When you get on some of these your ridiculous arguments, you often leave us speechless, wondering where that came from! It's either that you don't consider these opinions very deeply before airing them or you thoroughly underrate the intelligence of your readers or both. You just want to throw everything into an argument, no matter how obtuse that point may be! 

The Fed Govt has 5yr, 7yr, 10yr and 20yr bonds in existence. On that score, a good number of the bonds outstanding today have been in existence since during and before the Obasanjo years. ‎Despite that, all the FGN bonds (of all tenors) still outstanding today are not more than N3.5Trn, if at all they're up to, in value. And the maximum tenor of Treasury bills is one year (meaning all T-bills the CBN issued a year ago have all been paid up as at today). 

In your knowledge of Public Finance, when investors INVEST in government bonds, that tantamounts to the government misappropriating funds from those investors? Pension Funds INVESTING in Government bonds, Treasury Bills, etc, are the reasonable justification for Oshiomhole's charge that government took and spent pension funds? All the banks which also bought government bonds can be said to have given depositors' funds to the government to spend on recurrent expenditure? All individuals who equally bought government bonds have been robbed of their family wealth by the government on account of their investment in government bonds? And the shares bought by the pension funds are free monies given to the issuing companies by the pension funds for spending too? 

And the bonds which the DMO has recently issued for bail out for the states were monies taken out of pension funds too?? If that be the case, we can then say Buhari's government has joined Jonathan to take monies out pension funds to finance the extravagant spending of state governors like Oshiomhole. You surprise us with these ghastly arguments o. 

Yeye dey smell.  

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As Professsor Aluko rightly stated, the Pension Funds Commission doesn't hold money but it controls the Pension Funds Administrators ( PFA) and the Pension Funds Custodial Banking companies both that hold pension funds money through the pension funds acts and other forms of moral suasion.

The rules in Nigeria is that at least 70 - 80% ( correct me if am wrong )  of the money held by the PFAs be invested in government securities which usually are the Treasury Bills, Treasury Certificate and the Federal Government bonds which generally speaking we call government borrowing. 

Based on the total funds held by the various PFAs and considering the fact that a large chunk of their funds is invested in the aforementioned government short and long term securities, no one should doubt the possibility of such huge amount being  borrowed by the Federal government through the Debt Management Office so I can boldly say that Oshiomhole is right . 

Being a top insider the industry,if you keep arguing that the fund hasn't been passed to the federal government through the various government securities, please where is the large chunk of the fund ? Kindly stop defending those who mismanaged our economy . 

Pension Fund is a long term money, in many countries, a sizable proportion of the portfolio is always invested in some long term capital market products . If Mrs Iweala used this this type of borrowed fund to pay salaries and other recurrent expenses would you say she Is a competent minister of Finance ? What we criticized governor Aregbesola for  months ago was equally done on a mega scale by Dr Mrs Ngozi Okonjo Iweela ( Phd MIT, Yale, Harvard, Cantab, LSE ) . Lol 

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On 8 Oct 2015, at 13:07, Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [YanArewa] <YanA...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Please explain to us now!!! You're not known to be reticent when you think you have your facts! Lol.

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Don't muddle up the issue. You should know better being a former boss of a pension company. Former president Jonathan and Mrs Okonjo - Iweala ( Phd Harvard ) should be publicly caned for economic mismanagement . 

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On 8 Oct 2015, at 12:57, Segun Sanni therea...@yahoo.com [Naijadreamteamintellectuals] <Naijadreamtea...@yahoogroups.co.uk> wrote:

 

Please tell us. 

So the money being raised by the DMO to bail out the states is also from the pension funds?? Lol.

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JCA, 

Please don't jump into conclusions, what Governor Oshiomhole said makes a lot of sense ,You are an accountant you should know how governments raise money through the DMO . 

 

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On 8 Oct 2015, at 11:17, Joe Attueyi topc...@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

1)  Was  N3.5 trn drawn from PENCOM during this period?

Prof Aluko

When a person of the status of a state governor makes a statement one ought to take it seriously. However if it is founded on so flawed a premise as that excerpted above then one has to worry whether 'everything is alright'. 

PENCOM is a public institution that REGULATES activities of PRIVATE SECTOR institutions--Pension fund administrators and Pension fund custodians. PENCOM has neither custody nor control over pension fund contributions 

It is NOT possible to withdraw N3.5 trillion from PENCOM---simply because PENCOM does NOT have N3.5 trillion. 

If you and/or Oshio can show that anybody withdrew N3.5 trillion from PENCOM I'll pay $1,000 to any charity of your choice no questions asked   

Joe

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On Oct 8, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Ibimgm via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Just too much speculation!  What actually did happen?

GMI.

 

In a message dated 10/8/2015 4:09:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alu...@gmail.com writes:

My People:

Here is what Oshiomhole is quoted to have said:

QUOTE

You challenge Pencom and Ministry of Finance, you will discover that over N3.5tn was drawn by the previous government from pension funds to support recurrent expenditure, not to support infrastructure.

UNQUOTE

Assuming he was quoted correctly - no embellishment or fabrication - there are two issues here:

1. First is the very character of MISAPPROPRIATION. If that is what Oshiomhole is hinting at, then misappropriation/misapplication means not spending a particular money the way it was meant to be spent, sometimes by the person who has custody of the money, who may do it under the influence of another person.  I am not sure that is what Oshiomhole is stating here.  It is therefore trite to say that something CANNOT happen, when in fact the very POSSIBILITY/REALITY of its happening is the ILLEGALITY being hinted at.

2. Secondly, and more importantly, is to ask certain questions:

    (1)  Was  N3.5 trn drawn from PENCOM during this period?

(2) How much of it was invested in INFRASTRUCTURE?

(3) Is there ANY other CAPITAL category OUTSIDE of Infrastructure that PENCOM spent part of the money on?

If NONE was invested in Infrastructure or any other Capital Project - as Oshiomhole is likely to be hinting - then the ONLY other category that PENCOM must have spent the money on would be RECURRENT - to pay for

(A) its (PENCOM) own workers (salaries + allowances)

(B) to pay for its own overhead operations

(C) to pay for retirees - its primary aim.

I believe that is what Oshimhole is hinting at - that the N3.5 trn was not INVESTED to generate more money - maybe beyond interest income from banks - and was used to do (A), (B), (C) above, rather than to include

 

    (D)  Investment in Infrastructure (Roads, Railway, Power, Water), for which citizens will be required to pay

    (E)  Low-Interest Loans for Education

    (F)  Low-Interest Loan for Agriculture

    (G)  Low-Interest Loans for Manufacturing Industries

    (H) Conservative Investment in Foreign Securities

 A successful investment in these will not only DEVELOP the country, but a portion of the return on investments will be ADDED to the income of the retirees via (D) to (G) above.

That is what is done all the world over - except in Nigeria apparently - out of fear of corruption? We must rise above that, and be confident that we can put the proper controls.

In conclusion, I fully support the conservative use of the trillions of PENCOM in developing our country. Not doing so is ridiculous, and is like that story of the Bible where one man was given a talent and he BURIED it and returned it to its owner who upbraided him, while the others invested theirs, and where given even more money.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:42 PM, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"The funds are held by one independent institution while the investment decisions are made by a different private sector entity. All regulated by PENCOM..No Government can use pension funds as before because the funds neither belong to Govt nor controlled by Govt."--Joe Attueyi



(1) The funds need NOT belong to or  be controlled by the Government BEFORE the government can access it. The Government appoints whoever will be the directors  of PENCOM and associated entities.
(2) The government does NOT have to "use it as before"; that is, simply dipping its hands into it; BUT the government can utilize it via "Investments"--which is what Pension funds are all about-- just that in this case, the "investment" is in recurrent expenditure.
Leye Ige


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       Post Adeola commission restructuring of
 the pension system:
 the  pension
 funds contributed
 ‎under the auspices of
 the National Pension Commission
 (PenCom) are
 managed by privately owned Pension Fund
 Administrators (PFAs) and kept in custody by
 Pension Fund
 Custodians
 (PFCs).

 as Segun
 rightly educated those who are interested in knowing how the
 pension system currently works in Nigeria. The funds are
 held by one independent institution while the investment
 decisions are made by a different private sector entity. All
 regulated by PENCOM. 
 No Government can use
 pension funds as before because the funds neither belong to
 Govt nor controlled by Govt. 
 Some state governments
 have not adopted these pension reforms. Edo is probably one
 of them -- which would explain Oshio's
 confusion
 Joe
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Leye Ige ige....@yahoo.com
 [NIgerianWorldForum] <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:

 the  pension funds contributed

  ‎under the auspices of the National Pension Commission

  (PenCom) are managed by privately owned Pension Fund

  Administrators (PFAs) and kept in custody by Pension
 Fund

  Custodians (PFCs).

     










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[Segun Sanni]

Thank you very much Prof. Please allow me to clarify a few points thus:

1. The pension regulations do NOT compel pension funds to invest 70% of their assets in government securities. The Pencom investment guidelines make a demarcation on age basis (of the contributors) and prescribes different investment mixes for the different age groups namely: 

35yrs and below

36yrs to 45yrs

46yrs and above. 

Depending on your age, the guidelines ALLOW a ceiling of between 30 and 50 percent of your funds to be invested in shares of listed companies while the rest may be invested in other asset classes like Government Securities, Sukkuk (Islamic bonds), Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITS), mutual funds, etc. Again, much contrary to the false information confidently and repeatedly affirmed by Imperial on this matter, the pension funds are not compelled to invest the chunk of their assets in government securities. 

2. Among the asset classes (shares, government securities, real estate, etc), government securities, all over the world, are considered to be ‎the SAFEST and the HIGHEST GRADE securities available and are thus called Gilt-edged securities. Shares are considered to be perhaps the riskiest. 

For older investors like you and me, we're not likely to be as adventurous as the younger investors and an investment/asset manager would therefore advise that we put a little more of our assets in Gilts, which are almost totally risk free. In the unlikely event of a sovereign default (where the government is not able to pay its creditors), the whole system is presumed to have collapsed and the riskier investments would have likely failed much earlier. Now, in high interest environments like ours, most people/institutions would prefer to lend to the sovereign/government (who would not likely fail) rather than lend to businesses as those are very risky and could easily default in repayment or fail altogether. That's why Nigerian banks oftentimes resort to buying Government Bonds and Treasury Bills rather than lend to risky businesses, especially agriculture and manufacturing. This phenomenon is called the CROWDING OUT EFFECT in Economics, meaning the government is crowding out other borrowers (businesses and individuals) from the loans market. 

That is why our pension funds (as wise and rational investors like others) would also CHOOSE to put a reasonable ‎portion of their assets in government securities because they're very safe and the interest rate is high (meaning their price/cost is low). It's not rocket science sir. It's a choice, not compulsion. 

Now to Oshiomhole's argument, I consider it to be totally out of order for the following reasons: 

1. It's very normal for pension funds to join other investors (including foreign investors) to buy government ‎securities. It's not a new phenomenon. Investors have been buying (investing in) these securities since the time of our independence till today. Why is Oshiomhole making it sound like pension funds were contributed and the government then surreptitiously went to appropriate it as some companies do when they're in trouble? 

Why tell us pension funds invest in government securities (if that's what he claimed he wanted to say) when we all knew all along and the government is not defaulting in repayment?

2. If Oshiomhole wanted to make his now familiar charge that money was wasted or/and stolen‎ under Jonathan, he should simply make the case and prove it without necessarily making the unwarranted connection to pension funds. Monies wasted and stolen don't have any direct connection to pension funds and Oshiomhole apparently attempted to make that connection out of mischief to cause panic or/and disaffection towards his enemies as he's been desperately attempting, for whatever reason, for sometime now. 

If Oshiomhole is allowed, he'd soon say banks also bought government securities and therefore, depositors funds have been appropriated by the Federal Government under Jonathan. I shudder to imagine the devastating impact that would have on depositors' confidence in the banking system on an issue totally unrelated to banking! 

3. The issue of the excessive recurrent expenditure ‎in this our democracy has been discussed and discussed. The story has been told and retold. It started under Obasanjo, and our silly (and corruption-laden) petrol subsidy also doesn't help matters as it (subsidy) must be paid for from our fiscal resources. High recurrent expenditure is not a Jonathan phenomenon though he, like Obasanjo and Yar'Adua before him, did not show any/much political will to tackle it. Buhari has promised to do it and we pray he succeeds though I wonder how he wants to do it with his insistence on retaining the petrol subsidy. Depsite all the controversy on the cost of the subsidy, we now hear Nigeria today spends between N2bn and N2.5bn DAILY on petrol subsidy! That is between N730bn and N913bn annually. It's part of our recurrent expenditure, unfortunately.  

Now the high recurrent expenditure structure remains the same way today (and for every day of this government so far) and government securities have been ‎issued and sold in the same period (part of it to settle Oshiomhole's and other governors' workers' wage bills in his/their helpless situation and near collapse). Oshiomhole is not making any known effort to restructure his wage bill and will, in all likelihood, come back for another bailout very soon, all things being equal. By Oshiomhole's argument on the issuance and sale of government securities, Buhari's government is also taking ‎pension funds and spending them on recurrent expenditure. 

Should Oshiomhole then have a voice to condemn high recurrent expenditure if not that we're in Nigeria? 

These are the points I've been trying to make but on which my friend refuses to understand or yield as usual.

There you have it Prof (to borrow your famous expression). ‎Lol. 

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[Mobolaji Aluko]

Dear Segun Sanni and Fisayo Esan:

Thank you both very much for the education - and re-education - of the forums on this Pension Funds affair - very much appreciated.  Shining some light into the episodic heat around here is most helpful, particularly if it enables us to get away from discussion of personalities, eg Oshiomhole, or Sanni vs. Imperial, etcheram, ad nauseum, all of who may be speaking/writing from a position of part political agenda, part ignorance of all the facts, and part defensiveness, among other reasons.

As further help, I refer to three URLs, where the distinctions between PFAs and PFCs are well made, and a list of PFAs and PFCs are also provided:

    Distinctions:     http://nairametrics.com/difference-between-a-pension-fund-administrator-pfa-and-a-pension-fund-custodian-pfc/

       21 PFAs:  http://www.pencom.gov.ng/pfas.php

         4 PFCs:  http://www.pencom.gov.ng/pfcs.php

Moving on...

I must confess that early last year - or maybe late 2013 - I invited about 12 PFAs to FU Otuoke to make their pitches to the (then) over 1000 staff who were either enrolling for the first time or thinking of switching PFAs for a variety of reasons, and then got a thorough education of PENCOM/pension matters in Nigeria.  I sat through ALL of the presentations - made one at a time SEPARATELY - and had the privilege of asking the lead questions.  Their current number of enrollees, their current major INSTITUTIONAL customers (particularly their experience with universities), their history of return on investments and the SIZE of their investments, as well as their PFC,  were all taken into account by our staff who finally made their own choices.  At the end of the day, no more than three or four of these PFAs were settled upon by those who chose either to enrol for the first time (like myself, at least in the Nigerian system) or others who chose to switch.  [At my home Howard University in Washington DC, I have TIAA-CREF as my PFA for the past 31 years ; as one of ONLY two options available through the university. In Nigeria, I chose Leadway Pensure, after almost choosing AIICO or Stanbic.]

A point that I would like to reiterate is that among the 21 PFAs, a number should be incentivized by government (away from their usual comfort zone) to invest to close the infrastructure and agric gaps in the country, with some kinds of sovereign guarantee of some minimum return on investment.  I believe that is possible, without abrogating "PFA investment discretion and prerogative".

Concerning continuing concern about high recurrent expenditures, I expect that that will be addressed properly in the next zero-base budget cycle of 2016 and beyond.  The removal of subsidy AT THIS TIME is however a touchy one, because it could cause more upheaval than it would solve.  But I firmly believe that as leakages are plugged and loot recovered (and not re-looted), as employment in the private sector increases, and public infrastructure improve on which so many people spend their private money etc., the subsidy regime will decline, and will be replaced possibly by conditional cash transfers to the most vulnerable people of the society.

That is the hope and expectation.

And there you have it....thanks again for the discussion.

Bolaji Aluko

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 1:23 AM, 'Segun Sanni' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Thank you very much Prof. Please allow me to clarify a few points thus:

1. The pension regulations do NOT compel pension funds to invest 70% of their assets in government securities. The Pencom investment guidelines make a demarcation on age basis (of the contributors) and prescribes different investment mixes for the different age groups namely: 

35yrs and below

36yrs to 45yrs

46yrs and above. 

Depending on your age, the guidelines ALLOW a ceiling of between 30 and 50 percent of your funds to be invested in shares of listed companies while the rest may be invested in other asset classes like Government Securities, Sukkuk (Islamic bonds), Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITS), mutual funds, etc. Again, much contrary to the false information confidently and repeatedly affirmed by Imperial on this matter, the pension funds are not compelled to invest the chunk of their assets in government securities. 

2. Among the asset classes (shares, government securities, real estate, etc), government securities, all over the world, are considered to be ‎the SAFEST and the HIGHEST GRADE securities available and are thus called Gilt-edged securities. Shares are considered to be perhaps the riskiest. 

For older investors like you and me, we're not likely to be as adventurous as the younger investors and an investment/asset manager would therefore advise that we put a little more of our assets in Gilts, which are almost totally risk free. In the unlikely event of a sovereign default (where the government is not able to pay its creditors), the whole system is presumed to have collapsed and the riskier investments would have likely failed much earlier. Now, in high interest environments like ours, most people/institutions would prefer to lend to the sovereign/government (who would not likely fail) rather than lend to businesses as those are very risky and could easily default in repayment or fail altogether. That's why Nigerian banks oftentimes resort to buying Government Bonds and Treasury Bills rather than lend to risky businesses, especially agriculture and manufacturing. This phenomenon is called the CROWDING OUT EFFECT in Economics, meaning the government is crowding out other borrowers (businesses and individuals) from the loans market. 

That is why our pension funds (as wise and rational investors like others) would also CHOOSE to put a reasonable ‎portion of their assets in government securities because they're very safe and the interest rate is high (meaning their price/cost is low). It's not rocket science sir. It's a choice, not compulsion. 

Now to Oshiomhole's argument, I consider it to be totally out of order for the following reasons: 

1. It's very normal for pension funds to join other investors (including foreign investors) to buy government ‎securities. It's not a new phenomenon. Investors have been buying (investing in) these securities since the time of our independence till today. Why is Oshiomhole making it sound like pension funds were contributed and the government then surreptitiously went to appropriate it as some companies do when they're in trouble? 

Why tell us pension funds invest in government securities (if that's what he claimed he wanted to say) when we all knew all along and the government is not defaulting in repayment?

2. If Oshiomhole wanted to make his now familiar charge that money was wasted or/and stolen‎ under Jonathan, he should simply make the case and prove it without necessarily making the unwarranted connection to pension funds. Monies wasted and stolen don't have any direct connection to pension funds and Oshiomhole apparently attempted to make that connection out of mischief to cause panic or/and disaffection towards his enemies as he's been desperately attempting, for whatever reason, for sometime now. 

If Oshiomhole is allowed, he'd soon say banks also bought government securities and therefore, depositors funds have been appropriated by the Federal Government under Jonathan. I shudder to imagine the devastating impact that would have on depositors' confidence in the banking system on an issue totally unrelated to banking! 

3. The issue of the excessive recurrent expenditure ‎in this our democracy has been discussed and discussed. The story has been told and retold. It started under Obasanjo, and our silly (and corruption-laden) petrol subsidy also doesn't help matters as it (subsidy) must be paid for from our fiscal resources. High recurrent expenditure is not a Jonathan phenomenon though he, like Obasanjo and Yar'Adua before him, did not show any/much political will to tackle it. Buhari has promised to do it and we pray he succeeds though I wonder how he wants to do it with his insistence on retaining the petrol subsidy. Depsite all the controversy on the cost of the subsidy, we now hear Nigeria today spends between N2bn and N2.5bn DAILY on petrol subsidy! That is between N730bn and N913bn annually. It's part of our recurrent expenditure, unfortunately.  

Now the high recurrent expenditure structure remains the same way today (and for every day of this government so far) and government securities have been ‎issued and sold in the same period (part of it to settle Oshiomhole's and other governors' workers' wage bills in his/their helpless situation and near collapse). Oshiomhole is not making any known effort to restructure his wage bill and will, in all likelihood, come back for another bailout very soon, all things being equal. By Oshiomhole's argument on the issuance and sale of government securities, Buhari's government is also taking ‎pension funds and spending them on recurrent expenditure. 

Should Oshiomhole then have a voice to condemn high recurrent expenditure if not that we're in Nigeria? 

These are the points I've been trying to make but on which my friend refuses to understand or yield as usual.

There you have it Prof (to borrow your famous expression). ‎Lol. 

----- Fisayo Esan wrote....

Evening Prof.

PFAs are not mandated to invest 70% in FGN Bond Sir - it is only a maximum limit which does not have to be exhausted unless a PFA is so inclined!!

Every PFA under the Pension Act 2004 (now amended) must exercise their investment discretion and justify their license as Pension Fund Administrators to allocate pension funds often times well below the maximum limits. The maximum allocation to equity for instance is 25% - I doubt if any PFA on record has exhausted this limit for obvious market volatility factors!

I do not think it will be prudent to compel PFAs to mandatorily invest any percentage of pension funds in any asset class - we must be mindful that ultimately, it is the choice of the Employee to chose a suitble PFA which must as much as possible reflect the risk appetite of the employee in their investment decisions. I think the option to invest in an infrastructure Fund should be made open to PFAs - where it meets their professional investment criteria, they can invest in it. But not to compel PFAs by statutory imposition to commit any percentage of pension funds rigidly to any asset class.

I believe infrastructure investments should be encouraged but it should be structured along with the existing framework in the pension industry which includes PFA investment discretion and prerogative.

FE

 

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[Wilson Iguade]

Yeyerolling if you have nothing to add to this constructive exchange, please heed your own advise - "shut up".

Regards below, I saw many comments similar to "But not to compel PFAs by statutory imposition to commit any percentage of pension funds rigidly to any asset class."

Response: As long as the educated class in Nigeria continues to depend on government for every darn thing or ALMOST every damn thing, the so called recurrent budget will keep increasing, thus in constant shifting of "capital" (money) away from the PRIVATE sector. 

Our/Nigeria's economy can only grow, yes CAN grow exponentially if we begin to reduce all governments (federal, state, and yes LGA) interference in JB creations. To be clear, the govt's role should be recruiting PRIVATE enterprises to DO THINGS (invest) in the economy with govt protection from briberies and corruptions, meaning ENFORCE the law!

Reading below from some of the contributors, and as I understand some of the points being made, I cannot help to wonder WHY it is always "govt do this" and "govt do that", which is no-brainer or lazy thinking. What else can we expect from those who knows not, but think they know. Nigeria/government must get out of creating jobs, and supporting private sectors to create jobs. 

Now, since I realize that am talking to those, mostly those that don't understand business principles they may be wondering what has my citation got to do with creating jobs, well let me repeat the quote in conclusion and reconcile it with creating jobs. 

"... to compel PFAs by statutory imposition to commit any percentage of pension funds ..." This would require manhours/personnel, thus the job creation. Get it! Don't! Too bad for you, move on! Hehehe!

Stay tuned. Iguade ("pray for me")

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[Afis Deinde]

Fashola Brings the Lagos Impact to the Centre

Politics is not a game for the feint of heart. 

This truism has been reiterated in various shapes and forms. American politics is one of the most brutal. Nobody comes out of it with his reputation intact. Your political adversaries will pound at your name until it reeks of filth. Barack Obama confessed that he usually hides the Newspapers from his Children, because he hates their reaction when they read the hate filled diatribes against their father.

Nigerian politics has swiftly descended into a chasm, where hate and filth are routinely hurled at people on the other side of the political divide. This has led to a situation where even though we have had more than 100 governors since 1999, not a single one of them is considered by our internet warriors of hate as being good enough for the highest office of the land.

Babatunde Raji Fashola was Governor of Lagos State from 2007 to 2015. The Chance to evaluate his performance by residents of Lagos came up in 2011. That election offered a clear window into his evaluation by the people of Lagos. The Peoples Democratic Party’s nomination of an opponent for him for the election turned into a non-event.

This is apropos of the fact that no heavy weight in the then Federal Ruling party wanted the nomination. Musiliu Obanikoro did not bother to vie for the nomination neither did the ebullient Jimi Agbaje. The only reason these gentlemen did not want the poisoned chalice of an opportunity to run against Fashola was because they knew that the performance of the Governor was stellar and any contest against him was futile.

Fashola’s impact on Lagos despite all attempts by revanchists to change history has been phenomenal. In evaluating Fashola, you do not discuss tarring of roads, because he did this in their thousands of Kilometres, rather you discuss the reinvention of the multi-modal means of transportation in Lagos.

The reality of the Mass Transit Light rail lines steadily emerging and innumerable flyovers that are being constructed from Okokomaiko to CMS has been the defining issue for experts on modern city reconstruction.The construction of the first Cable Stayed Bridge in West Africa from Ikoyi to Lekki brought a refreshing dimension to the idea of governmental vision and delivery of a beautiful and well-designed project.

The reinvention of water-ways transportation of Lagos clearly showed the trappings of counter-intuitive thinking. The sudden change of Lagos from a city of dirty dingy bus parks, such as Oshodi, Ojota and others to a city with beautiful gardens was the result of detailed planning and decisive actions. The ongoing constructions at the Eko Atlantic City that has created tens of thousands of construction jobs and is billed to eventually create a whole new city from the formerly flood ridden bar beach remain the stuff of legends.

It is impossible to capture a significant part of the works by Fashola in a short essay. Therefore, I will suspend the discourse for another day. The poser here is actually how the Fashola impact can be transferred to the National level. The onus will of course rest on the President and the role he decides to assign to the vision driven Fashola. Even more important will be a decision by the President to give this particular Minister some creative space. Any role that does not admit of counter-intuitive thinking and application will be a no-no for him.

Most of the problems we have in Nigeria emanate from the poor quality of thinking by our leaders. Every leader, even the most ridiculed, actually had an ambition to be hugely successful. The catch is that leaders with low quality thinking are soon overwhelmed by the problems they are meant to confront and they succumb to the easy part of regarding the problems as part of the “Nigerian Factor”.

Great Leaders on the other hand realise that there is no such thing as the Nigerian Factor and that iron will ultimately melt at the right temperature. That is exactly where a man like Fashola will be useful to Nigeria. His uncanny ability to see solutions, where other Nigerians see problems have made him one of the most successful Governors in Nigeria’s history. A fitting evaluation of Governor Fashola by Time Magazine op-ed writer, Alex Perry on May 2, 2011 illustrates this:

“Fashola is not your usual politician. Rather than barging through his way across town with sirens blaring and lights flashing like other Nigerian leaders, he chooses to endure Lagos traffic with his fellow citizens. Also Fashola reads economic theory for fun. On his bedside table are books by development economists who see potential in poverty, people like C.K. Prahalad of the University of Michigan or Hernanado de Soto of Institute of Liberty and Democracy (ILD) in Lima.”

I can hardly evaluate the uncanny ability of Fashola in better perspective than Alex Perry. But I dare say that Lagos is a much better space because Babatunde Fashola happened to have been the governor for eight years. A continuation of the constructions, vision and plans he and his team have clearly commenced and mapped out for Lagos will ultimately resolve the transportation conundrum that is the greatest problem of Lagos. The apposite hope herein is that the man will also affect an area of our National life positively at the National level if he is adroitly utilized.

By Odikpo, a legal practitioner, is Lagos-based

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Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Pls tell him. I would rather stick with her than him and his entire generation. 

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Peter,

The issue is not about saints in politics , but it is about the flagrant looting of state and national treasuries by Nigerian politicians. I wonder why people like you can not see the blatant theft that went on in all the states of the federation regardless of the political party. This is the issue and not the issue of individuals and claim of sainthood. In my opinion, if you embezzled state or federal treasury, you do not deserve another chance either as an appointed or elected individual. Stop using United States politicians that do not embezzle public funds to equate your Nigerians leaders that believe in looting their state and federal treasuries without conscience.  This is the core issue.

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With people like this, the Wailers say they are expecting their own saints after the mayhem their now rusticated saints caused in this country for six godforsaken years. Let them cry on but Nigeria has gotten what it needs to recover from the destruction levied on us by these wailing locusts. 

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[Joe Attueyi]

If that is what it takes it has my support 

https://www.thecable.ng/again-nigeria-hires-mercenaries-against-boko-haram-to-meet-december-deadline

Nigeria has hired about 250 mercenaries from South Africa to help in its war against Boko Haram insurgents, a Turkish news agency has reported, quoting military sources. President Muhammadu Buhari recently gave a December deadline to the military to end the insurgency in the north-east. Anadolu Agency reports that the mercenaries were recruited from South Africa-based private contractor, Specialized Tasks, Training, Equipment and Protection (STTEP), which also helped the administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan in its push against the insurgents early 2015. Although the Jonathan administration denied engaging them, Eeben Barlow, a retired colonel who heads STTEP, confirmed that his group of “bush warfare experts” were recruited in “top secrecy” in January to train an elite strike group within the Nigerian army. Anadolu quoted a source as saying the “mercenaries have been reengaged and their platforms are being deployed… By platforms, I mean fighter jets, helos [helicopters], coms [communication], surveillance, medics, etc”. They are being deployed along with fighter jets in Operation Fire Force, the source said. STTEP includes veterans from the South African apartheid era who will work with and train a Nigerian strike force, according to the source. Another army source confirmed the development to Anadolu. “There is definitely something happening in that direction,” he was quoted as revealing. According to STTEP’s official website, the company’s trainers and advisers are drawn from “conventional, clandestine, and covert units of the pre-1994 South African Defense Force”. It claims to have a proven track record of success in Africa, the middle east, the far east and central and south America. Buhari described the use of mercenaries to fight Boko Haram as “shameful” during the 2015 electioneering, saying it represented the depth of weakness of the Nigerian army. But a defence headquarters source told the news agency that the mercenary option appeared to be the “most practical” one to contain the insurgency. After successes recorded by the government before the 2015 elections, the insurgents have been on the rebound, killing as many as 1,500 people between June and October. According to the army source, the Buhari administration initially terminated the mercenary contract because it was “opaque and without accountability” but said a new agreement was reached to boost the counterinsurgency operation. “As it stands now, huge amounts of monies are owed to the contractors as fulfillment for the previous engagement,” the source added. “So they are starting a new engagement for an initial period of three months. As for their outstanding balances, investigations are being carried out to ensure everything is above board.” The Nigerian military did not respond to Anadolu Agency’s request for comment. However, presidential spokesman Garba Shehu denied the government was engaging mercenaries again. “It is true that the previous administration hired South African mercenaries to fight Boko Haram,” he said. “They, however, left with the government that brought them. Since coming into office, this government did not have any engagement with mercenaries of any kind and there are no plans to do so.” Siphiwe Dlamini, a spokesman for the South African National Defense Force (SANDF), told Anadolu his country did not have any troops in Nigeria but could not say if private mercenaries were operating there. “I wish to reiterate there are no SANDF personnel in Nigeria fighting Boko Haram,” he told Anadolu. “If there are South Africans who are there as you allege they are not our members but private citizens. I cannot comment on what private citizens are doing in any part of the world.” STTEP did not respond to emailed requests for comment. Earlier this year, South Africa’s Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula issued a stern warning to South African mercenaries, saying they had no business in Nigeria and should be arrested on their return. Follow us on twitter @thecableng

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[Gregg Ukaegbu]

Yes, if that’s what it will take, I support it too and it is a matter of urgency because Putin will drive ISIS out of Syria and into Nigeria.

 

But, look,  so, if these 250 soldiers of fortune come in and clear Boko Haram, does it then say that Nigeria effectively has no Armed Forces?  I bet you any region that can find 6 fighter/bomber aircrafts can pull out of Nigeria successfully. 

 

Even Boys Scouts can take the Nigerian Army right now.  In a few more years, the Nigerian Army will be even weaker and that will be the right time to take them.

 

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[Wharfery Snake]

When Jonathan hired this same men Buhari bad-mouthed the idea. Today we have come full circle. Indeed Jonathan had the foresight to recognize that the Nigerian army are incapable of defeating this slippers wearing men with no military training. Folks why do we have an army? Why not disband this stupid useless army so that a real fighting force can be constituted. It is clear that the cowards from Yoruba who populate the army are there as decoraton. Hausa are busy sponsoring Boko. By the it is clear as day now that Nigeria cannot win a skirmish without the,help of foreign fighters. It is a monumental Shame. Sad!

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WS 

You are right about Buhari criticising it as president-elect. 

http://en.starafrica.com/news/nigerias-president-elect-condemns-use-of-mercenaries-by-military.html

But president is different from presidential candidate. 

If Buhari has realised that this army of anything goes cannot defeat BH and he needs mercenaries I am all for it. 

Let the snake be killed- no pun intended 

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Pun or no pun, this would be a scary statement for Wharfy-----especially, coming from a pastor who might be speaking for the Christian God. Things were not as severe for the Serpent in Eden.

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[John Ebohon]

WS,

 

It is not so much Buhari but some of us who were running our mouths like okra soup, calling JEG clueless etc etc. Where are these people now, I wondered what they would be sying. Shameless people.

OJ

[Wharf A. Snake]

Nwanna Pastor Joe, I shall leave you with this gem: onye na achu agwo na acho aramara agwo ona achuachi na kwa acho aramara. In this case the first one to strike wins.

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

Ade. I do not understand you.
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[Ishola Williams]

We have no Nigerain Armed Forces.They should be scarrped,.It is a shame.

Why did GMB change the CDS and Service Chiefs when he is now bringing back Mercenaries for Millions of Dollars like GEJ did.

We are now in new era of warfare when you can use Private Armies with their own Platforms and weapons Systems. to fight your war.The

We changed name and ethnicity not the Satetcraft.iw

  

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

General.
Now you are saying what we warned against. Buhari is a total failure. Let him go.
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[Yaya Fanusie]

It is a stupid decision and it should be rescinded. It is throwing money down the drain. thosed hired guns can not prevent suicide bombers. You need to study the Israeli Methods.

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[Ishola Williams]

YF,The first part of your Statement makes sense as Mrcenaries come and go and will never  resolve the root of  the Problem.

We must separate Terrorism(with the Police capacitated to deal with it )from Insurgency which the Military in Africa are not fighting  like Thinking Soldiers.

As Thucydides wrote in 6BCE,a nation that seaparates its thinhing men from its fighting men will have its battle fought by fools and its thinking done by cowards

The second part of your statement  makes no sense.

Are Palestinians Terrorists?Are they not fighting a Just Cause?

There are Palestinian Christians who also want a Separate State and want to return to their Homeland from refugee camps while seeking for Peace in Gaza.

You are always fond of comparing  oranges with Apples

That said,we can learn from the  Isrealis how our fighting can be done by brave knowledgeable   soldiers  with experience and our Thinking done by those with Intellects and wisdom.

The two have to working togetheriw

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[DIPO ENIOLA]

Putin cannot drive ISIS out of Syria. It is not going to happen. Yes, Russia's involvement will delay the exit of Assad from Syria that is about it. On the contrary, ISIS may eventually  become stronger. Jihad fighters all over the world are still pouring into ISIS controlled  part of Syria to join the fight. Even, Putin does not believe his air campaign and forces can defeat ISIS. His military bases are said to be very small and very vulnerable from many sides. Undoubtedly, Putin wants a political settlement and he feels engaging in bombing campaign would strengthen his hand during negotiations.

Take a look at what is happening in Ukraine. Putin has not achieved his main objective of annexing entire Southern Ukraine.

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[John Ebohon]

General,

 

I could not agree with you more. Humiliating as it was when Jonathan did it, incomprehensible when a former Military General adopts the same measure. It is also humiliating for the present and past men and women of Nigerian Arms Forces. Are we saying that what the Nigerian Army could not do, 250 private armies are trusted to deliver, and by whom – the Commander in Chief of the Nigerian Arms Forces. Algeria sorted out their problems in weeks. Who is advising or advised the President to adopt this measure?

OJ

[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

There was a reason behind the call of Jonathan . We shall see it.
Tribal sentiment did not allow the Igbo who was CAS to deal with Boko Haram.
Buhari-Osinbaj rode to power over blood, we shall if that can rule without blood.
Yoruba abd Indigen hunters wanted to go into the forest but teh sponsors of Boo Haram refused to allow them. Traditional hunters know how to attract their victim (I just put it this way) and we would not have spent so much money on weapons. I even gave an example in Esa Oke in 1965.
Now the money to supply drinking water for the poor in the Niger Delta willl be burnt on weapons that are useless.
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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

General.
 The Palestinian case is different. Palestine has known no peace for over 5000 years. It is a cursed land (Israal and Palestine).
The big saboutage of the Palesitian Cause is Hamas and Hezbollah. They have no thinkers. All they want is eliminate Israel which they can never achieve. All wars end when men sit together to talk. Hamas and Hezbollah must be ready to talk.
The way the Assad regime has masacred his own people slaughtering more people that dead in all wars with Israel compared with what idi Ami did in Uganda, the masacre of our people in Dafour, the merciless bombing of the Libyans by Gadhafi when the end had come show that Israel is dealing with a people who understand to other form of communication than  violence.
Boko Haram is already making us doubt that Islam is a religion of peace.
Let me also add Nor the Americans, nor the Austrlains, Nor The Europeans represent Christianity, all of them sabotaged Christianity just as the Arabs sabotaged Islam. Incidentallly neither Europeans nor Arabs have known peace for 5000 years.

Now back to our homeland. We must tackle Boko Haram and all agitations in Nigeria based on our ancestral wisdom. We are all related. The white man (European and Arabs) divided us. We must go back to our roots.
The Awos will say " A difa fun Ija" to be able to know the root of this fight and address it. The "Ebo" that they asked for is only for them to go to their shrines to ask nature, it does not mean that we all go to the shrine to worhip. In "A difa fun ija", there was an unpaid debt.
If I can remmeber, politicians from North East Nigeria used Boko Haram to win elections and after they won, they refused to pay them, then Boko Haram reacted and its leader was arrested by the Army and handed over to the police because an unarmed man cannot be given to ther army. The guy died in Police Custody before speaking out. Politicians silenced him. Before them Boko Haram was just a bunch of activists and they were not violent from what I can remember. It was after the death of their leader that they became violent and politians in their spirit of cowardice fueled the matter. And here we are.
We need to get to the root of the matter (as reommended by Ournmila who said Opele can be useful in investigation). There will be "ebo" into the hearts of the agrieved terrorists and we shall have African solutions to African confilcts. Meanwhile, the white slave master is the winner, everyday millions of dollars go into their Bank Accounts for weapons we buy to kill ourselves (becuase we refused few goats to Owonrin Meji).
I repeat, let us visit our acnstreal wisdom. In some pages of a book passed to me some months ago, a white Antropologist who lived with Nupe for some years said according to the Nupe, Oduduwa was a power Native Doctor who was expelled fomr their home, from their he left for Benin and from Benin to what today we knwo as Ile Ife. As a scholar, I take from here that the Nupes are related with us and have been with us for ages and we share common heritage in what Yoruba call Ifa.
Let us then gather "Carmen Serpentiae" some wise men from Nupe, Yoruba Urhobo, Igbo, Edo to look deeply into our ancestral heritage for wisdom to tackle spiritually the conflits.
Do not be afraid, Ifa will not ask for human sacfice, it si the white man that sacrifce human beings to test the ground. They will speak to our ancestors, there will be peace on the land an dpossibly save the split of Nigeria. If Nigeria does not split, there must be a holiday dedicated to Our Ancestral Heritage remmebering how this conflict was solved, but we must he watchful, the enemies of Africa will invent another war. To prevent that another "ebo" will be neccesary and I recomemnd with teh famous "return to sendr", any country that exports conflicts to us must reieve the conflict.
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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

It is not in the tinterest of the weapon manufacturers for ISIS to be out of Syria. We are talking of an area that has seen no peace for over 5000 years. When there is peace, a gangleader will rise up. See Europe, as soon as there was peace Napoleon invented a war.
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[Wharfery Snake]

Ogbeni Dipo:

I don't know where you get your information but Putin's interest is Eastern Ukraine as a buffer and he has achieved that. Ukraine won't be joining NATO. Crimea is fully annexed. 

Do you recall that Ukraine and their sponsors thought they will bring Ukraine into NATO? That plan is dead and buried. Putin is not.looking to colonize Ukraine.

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[DIPO ENIOLA]

Wharf the Snake of Orlu:

The West never wanted Ukraine in NATO. They believe that will be an ambition gone too far. But Russia  will not be able to consider Ukraine as a compliant client state either . Ethnic Russians' influence inside Ukraine proper has waned considerably. It will be almost impossible for an Ethnic Russian to be President of Ukraine again. As a matter of fact, Ukraine Rebel leaders/fighters are beginning to criticize Putin for abandoning them. They were expecting Putin to romp through Ukraine and install a puppet president like the one chased out of power.

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Ogbeni Dipo:

I don't know where you get your information but Putin's interest is Eastern Ukraine as a buffer and he has achieved that. Ukraine won't be joining NATO. Crimea is fully annexed. 

Do you recall that Ukraine and their sponsors thought they will bring Ukraine into NATO? That plan is dead and buried. Putin is not.looking to colonize Ukraine.

WS - A venerable Prince of Mushin.

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Putin cannot drive ISIS out of Syria. It is not going to happen. Yes, Russia's involvement will delay the exit of Assad from Syria that is about it. On the contrary, ISIS may eventually  become stronger. Jihad fighters all over the world are still pouring into ISIS controlled  part of Syria to join the fight. Even, Putin does not believe his air campaign and forces can defeat ISIS. His military bases are said to be very small and very vulnerable from many sides. Undoubtedly, Putin wants a political settlement and he feels engaging in bombing campaign would strengthen his hand during negotiations.

Take a look at what is happening in Ukraine. Putin has not achieved his main objective of annexing entire Eastern Ukraine.

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[Yaya Fanusie]

Ishola,

You are still a Fool. When recommending that the Nigerian Army should learn from the Israelis implies that the Palestinian Cause is not a JUST CAUSE?

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

Yaya.
Adress the Respected Nigerian General with respect. His subordinates liberated your country from a terrible Civil War. With your age and Education, more is expected of you.
The General is well revered in Nigeria. He is one of the Seniormost Soldier in the Federal Republic of Nigeria. You can see all Nigerians can disagree with him in this forum but none has insulted him. He is more relevant to Africa and the black race than you. You  have no respect for anyone becuase you were brought up where there is no repespect.
I call on you to watch your words. Ishola Williamsn is a General of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. I call on on Nigerians in this forum to put Yaya Fanuse to order and we must not allow him or anyone to insult him.
Otitigbe.

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[Yaya Fanusie]

Otitigbe, I am not insulting Ishola. I am insulting his daughter who wrote the rubbish for him. 

Yaya Fanusie

PS. I met her at a world bank event. 

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[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

Ok.
I withdraw my writings.
Sorry for that.
Otitigbe

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[Yaya Fanusie]

His daughter is tall pretty but not very smart.

Yaya 

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[Ayo Ojutalayo]

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[Joe Attueyi]

Bro Abba

To be honest I'd rather the mercenaries are hired or the matter sourced out to Americans or Russians or whoever. This carnage ought to stop. If our army can't do it we should find who can.  We can rebuild our army thereafter. 

That is my honest advice to Mr President. 

Joe

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You are all commenting on a story that never was.  The President's media folks have completely debunked the claim that mercenaries were hired to help with the war.  You guys must not continue to believe everything you read from our men and women of the (tabloid) media.    Bro. Joe the Pastor, now we are having the last laugh (as Bro. JUI often does).  Hehehhehehehe.

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[rotfash]

Joe:

You are one of the most pathetic cynics that strut about this space.

That Jonathan hired mercenaries and was harshly excoriated, you wanted Buhari to do same so as to be piloried by you and your friends.

Your dishonesty really rankles, my brother.

It was a huge disappointment for you when the story turned to be a ruse, a huge hoax. What a pity, Joe. You'd have to wait much longer to see this regime slip the way deposed king did. 

Abeg make you no spoil my fun joo. I dey family sowambe right now.

Rotimi Fashakin.

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[BUSKA]

ALAGBA Otitigbe, we don't need to warn the moron o, he will be felt a real blow up to his under pant very soon

At least the world can see how stupid and disrespectful this Fanusie is, a man with no home training and poor upbringing 

May God and the gods deal him a blow he won't recover from

Iku pa e

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[BUSKA]

Roteh- the man, it is called Owambe not Sowambe, you hear 

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[rotfash]

Ok thank you, Buska. Yours is grarefully received.

But you did not leave room for typo error.

Nonetheless, I thank you since you must correct something in mine.

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[Joe Attueyi]

Roteh

After speaking all the grammar and abusing me you have still not said your views on the policy. Should the govt hire mercenaries to fight BH or not. I support it whether it is GEJ or PMB. 

Policies are not measured in terms of personalities--Jonathan or Buhari. They are measured in terms of potential to solve a problem ( especially if implemented correctly )

Bro learn to use the intellect God blessed you with to think. Think through issues and be confident to take stands on issues even if your stand is not popular. That is how your political principals will appreciate you. 

Right now you are competing with the Afis of this world for the bottom of the pit as the lowest common denominator -- which probably explains why you are not been taken seriously 

Joe

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[rotfash]

Joe,

Yeye boy... you no well.

Even when you are dying, you'd still have something to say, albeit with tinge of obfuscation.

Wallahi, we have not gotten to the end of the treatment process for you.

[Otitigbe Obadiah Oghoerore Alegbe PhD]

Thanks.
It was becoming unbecomming of him against the General.
Otitigbe.

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[Tajudeen]

Putin just dey do gra gra. Obama in the end, take and eats Putin's lunch. Obama is sweating Putin with the sanctions. 

Putin, in what seem like agreeing with Obama's approach to Syria, is not going to put Russian boots on the ground. He is also currently talking with the USA on how he can assist rebels supported by the USA and who are fighting Isis. The same rebel whose assigned mission by the USA is to topple Assad. Go figure-:) 

Putin is attempting to intimidate the USA by bombing the location of the USA backed rebels - he realized he has over played that hand because America is considering giving some stinger missiles to the rebels. That would make it possible for the rebels to start taking down the Russian planes that have been bombing them. He further tried to intimidate the USA by having their planes make threatening moves around USA planes - that did not work either. 

He is now trying to play nice after his bullying tactics did not work. Putin's pocket is hurting all he is now doing is gra gra in an attempt to gain Obama's attention. 

Thanks,

Tajudeen Raji 

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Ezekwe,

I agree with your take on what you called "whatever it may take " to clear BH .

The irony though is the slap it means for an African country , Nigeria, with such a huge army , supposedly strong , but incapable of 

discharging disarming shots against BH.

We shall pray for the success of the bush warfare experts and hope we may not need to keep them for long and if needed, engaging Putin's services may eventually be considered.

That Putin is a leader no one wants to mess with.

Dan

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[Joseph Onuorah]

And I agree wholeheartedly! Putin is underestimating Obama. He would learn. 

Joe.

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[Wilson Iguade]

I can't believe that you guys are blinded by Buhari's scheme to LOOT, LOOT and fucking loot the country dry under the TASK that he is paying mercenaries to fight Boko haram! 

Bullshit! 

Who is advising Buhari in his attempts to GOVERN my country, Nigeria? I keep asking this very simple but POWERFUL question: Who is or are those that Buhari is listening to their counsel to govern Nigeria, which belongs to the people, NOT Buhari. Somebody should tell Buhari that CONTROL of govt., is NOT the same as OWNERSHIP of govt. 

Iguade, Emir of ASO ROCK, Abuja, Nigeria. 

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WS,

 

It is not so much Buhari but some of us who were running our mouths like okra soup, calling JEG clueless etc etc. Where are these people now, I wondered what they would be sying. Shameless people.

OJ

 

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When Jonathan hired this same men Buhari bad-mouthed the idea. Today we have come full circle. Indeed Jonathan had the foresight to recognize that the Nigerian army are incapable of defeating this slippers wearing men with no military training. Folks why do we have an army? Why not disband this stupid useless army so that a real fighting force can be constituted. It is clear that the cowards from Yoruba who populate the army are there as decoraton. Hausa are busy sponsoring Boko. By the it is clear as day now that Nigeria cannot win a skirmish without the,help of foreign fighters. It is a monumental Shame. Sad!

WS - A venerable Prince of Mushin.

 

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If that is what it takes it has my support 

 

https://www.thecable.ng/again-nigeria-hires-mercenaries-against-boko-haram-to-meet-december-deadline

Nigeria has hired about 250 mercenaries from South Africa to help in its war against Boko Haram insurgents, a Turkish news agency has reported, quoting military sources. President Muhammadu Buhari recently gave a December deadline to the military to end the insurgency in the north-east. Anadolu Agency reports that the mercenaries were recruited from South Africa-based private contractor, Specialized Tasks, Training, Equipment and Protection (STTEP), which also helped the administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan in its push against the insurgents early 2015. Although the Jonathan administration denied engaging them, Eeben Barlow, a retired colonel who heads STTEP, confirmed that his group of “bush warfare experts” were recruited in “top secrecy” in January to train an elite strike group within the Nigerian army. Anadolu quoted a source as saying the “mercenaries have been reengaged and their platforms are being deployed… By platforms, I mean fighter jets, helos [helicopters], coms [communication], surveillance, medics, etc”. They are being deployed along with fighter jets in Operation Fire Force, the source said. STTEP includes veterans from the South African apartheid era who will work with and train a Nigerian strike force, according to the source. Another army source confirmed the development to Anadolu. “There is definitely something happening in that direction,” he was quoted as revealing. According to STTEP’s official website, the company’s trainers and advisers are drawn from “conventional, clandestine, and covert units of the pre-1994 South African Defense Force”. It claims to have a proven track record of success in Africa, the middle east, the far east and central and south America. Buhari described the use of mercenaries to fight Boko Haram as “shameful” during the 2015 electioneering, saying it represented the depth of weakness of the Nigerian army. But a defence headquarters source told the news agency that the mercenary option appeared to be the “most practical” one to contain the insurgency. After successes recorded by the government before the 2015 elections, the insurgents have been on the rebound, killing as many as 1,500 people between June and October. According to the army source, the Buhari administration initially terminated the mercenary contract because it was “opaque and without accountability” but said a new agreement was reached to boost the counterinsurgency operation. “As it stands now, huge amounts of monies are owed to the contractors as fulfillment for the previous engagement,” the source added. “So they are starting a new engagement for an initial period of three months. As for their outstanding balances, investigations are being carried out to ensure everything is above board.” The Nigerian military did not respond to Anadolu Agency’s request for comment. However, presidential spokesman Garba Shehu denied the government was engaging mercenaries again. “It is true that the previous administration hired South African mercenaries to fight Boko Haram,” he said. “They, however, left with the government that brought them. Since coming into office, this government did not have any engagement with mercenaries of any kind and there are no plans to do so.” Siphiwe Dlamini, a spokesman for the South African National Defense Force (SANDF), told Anadolu his country did not have any troops in Nigeria but could not say if private mercenaries were operating there. “I wish to reiterate there are no SANDF personnel in Nigeria fighting Boko Haram,” he told Anadolu. “If there are South Africans who are there as you allege they are not our members but private citizens. I cannot comment on what private citizens are doing in any part of the world.” STTEP did not respond to emailed requests for comment. Earlier this year, South Africa’s Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula issued a stern warning to South African mercenaries, saying they had no business in Nigeria and should be arrested on their return. Follow us on twitter @thecableng

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[John Ebohon]

My Emir,

If anything, you have just given credence to the story. Why is it that when it suits, the “tabloids” are forerunners of good news but when it doesn’t suits, “tabloids” should be dismissed.

OJ

 

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You are all commenting on a story that never was.  The President's media folks have completely debunked the claim that mercenaries were hired to help with the war.  You guys must not continue to believe everything you read from our men and women of the (tabloid) media.    Bro. Joe the Pastor, now we are having the last laugh (as Bro. JUI often does).  Hehehhehehehe.

 

Abba

 

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[Joe Attueyi]

Wishlist

By Pius Adesanmi

1. Buhari returns from India and starts the process of selling off ten of his 11 presidential jets. The planes to be sold do not need to appear for Senate screening. I don't understand this delay. You cannot condemn the size of the fleet during campaign and, upon taking possession of same, begin to behave like the rich man Jesus asked to sell off his material possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. The rich man gave Jesus imoju, said shior, and walked away.

2. Buhari returns from India, swears in his cabinet, and each one of them gets kicking. Within days, we should have clear policy direction from each of them. May to November in the life of a country is expensive. No be beans.

3. Buhari returns from India and we get to take stock of all these EFCC, ICPC invitations and TV soap operas that have not led to any serious trial or corruption conviction. We sustain the tempo and encourage the administration to continue, especially after we have a Minister of Justice. Witch hunt wailing should be treated as free national entertainment.

4. Buhari returns from India and addresses us comprehensively on Boko Haram . We need to know and see what the immediate and long term game plan is.

5. Buhari returns from India and stops his customs boss from junketting around in a private jet in these lean times. He is not a state Governor. We agreed to let state Governors owe workers and pensioners months of salary arrears in order to be able to fund their private jets. We have agreed to let our pastors use our tithes to fund their harems of private jets. Must we also agree to fund a private jet for a customs boss we were told was Spartan? We must draw the line somewhere.

6. Buhari returns from India and we begin to hear more of the vigorous, solid, and monumental work that Osinbajo is doing. Sadly overshadowed by all the appalling politicking in the land, especially the clowning in the National Assembly.

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[Eyenisong Ibibio]

I agree completely.

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[Joe Attueyi]

This is how a public official defends his integrity. Now Daily Trust need to show up with the documents they based their story on.  Good for democracy 

Joe

Sam Amadi 

N2.7BILLION SEVERANCE: A RUSE TO TAKE OVER NERC

So, NERC commissioners have earmarked N2.7billion to pay themselves? You believe this? Don’t believe it. This is a ruse to undermine my credibility so that a political gang that wants to ensure I don’t continue as NERC Chairman can succeed. This is an obvious script

The Daily Trust journalist who wrote the story notified me that someone has informed his editor that NERC Commissioners are sharing N2.7billion as severance. .I told him the information is false and asked him to come to the office in the morning to get all the documents so he can do an accurate report. He said he would do so but an hour later informed me that his editor wants to do the report without verifying the facts. Daily Trust knows better but that is an agenda that must be executed with dispatch: to scandalize Sam Amadi so that they can illegally remove him or undermine any chance of his continuing in office.

Don’t be fooled. This is an attack against Dr Sam Amadi so that he does not continue as NERC Chairman. It is a political attack against a man who has a deserved reputation of incorruptibility.  

Now these are the facts:

* Sam Amadi and his team did not approve to share N2.7 billion as severance. We did not even establish a Severance Fund. The Fund was already established by the former commissioners in 2006 and funded then to the tune of N500,000.00

* The details of the Severance Scheme were further provided for by the former Administrator in the Staff Handbook. That Handbook also included allowances on the basis of which severance is calculated for staff

* The new commissioners recognized the resolutions and regulations of previous administrations. Through prudent management of finances we shared sufficient money to open a mortgage facility for every staff and increased the funding of the existing staff severance scheme by N2.billion.

* The funding of the Severance Scheme is mandated by the Pension Act. We selected 3 reputable PFAs, including IBTC and ARM, to manage the fund. The Pension Commission requires that you do an actuarial evaluation of the staff salaries and allowance to determine the amount of the funding of the scheme.

* After the firm of Sada & Associate recommended the amount that will cover the entire employees of the commission, the Commissioners approved N2.7 billion and transferred N2.billion to the fund to cover the obligations that will trigger upon retirement of any staff

* The N2.7 billion is to cover 164 NERC staff

This is the sort of fiscal planning that the Pension Act recommends. Today that government seems to be broke, if a staff of NERC retires now he or she would be paid her lawful entitlement without running to CBN for bailout. This is what PENCOM recommends. We are ahead of everyone in being financially disciplined

* It is lie from hell that we approved N400million and N380million for Chairman and Commissioners. We only resolved that all NERC staff and commissioners shall be paid severance at the rate of 100% of the gross earning as provided for in the schedule to the Pension Act. We pegged our severance to the provision of PENSION Act. nothing extra. So, where is the crime or corruption?

* NERC could increase it pension fund because we have been frugal and honest in managing finances. In 2010 I banned flying of first class cabin in any airline. We are the only agency of government that obeys government circular that no person, from minister to the last person , should fly first class. The difference between first class and business class is huge. In many agencies, commissioners or board members have 3 or 4 cars that are fully fueled and maintained by the agency. In our case, the agency repairs and fuels only one car and the commissioner repairs and fuels the rest. This results in huge savings. I don’t have police or SSS services. I drive myself on weekends. My official car does not stay in my house. It returns to the office after work everyday. I doubt if another public officer does that.

Let me restate. I am an exemplary public officer. I have not taken one kobo bribe. I have not done any contract in any guise. I have not made any decision for pecuniary or personal gain. I have kept the faith. God is my witness. Nigerians who are not murderously after the position of NERC Chairman for political or pecuniary interest will endorse my competence and integrity. 

Don’t be fooled

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[rotimi fashakin]

Joe,

So far so good as regards this explanation from Sam Amadi.

What would be disingenuous is to read that he is being persecuted because he is Igbo.

Let us hope that the narrative won't degenerate to that crass idiocy.

Cheers.

 

Rotimi Fashakin

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[Wharfery Snake]

Folks it us time for daily trust to put up or bow their heads in shame. If every public can be this clear in defending their office Nigeria would be a better place. 

Daily trust: Shane on you attempting to tar a good man. Awon were! 

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I have my doubts on the story that Sam Amadi will attempt to share 2.7billion alongside his commissioners as pension. Sam Amadi is the only top public official I know that drives himself. He has no retinue of aides. He does not travel by First Class, even though his status demands he does so, by Nigerian standard. He maintains a modest life of piety, trust and honesty of intentions. This has been his trademark for decades. I strongly suspect that it"s an attempt by some politicians struggling to edge him out so that they can take his place. Adewale Adeoye

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I have been following the trend and discussions on NERC. I have my doubts on the story that Sam Amadi will attempt to share 2.7billion alongside his commissioners as pension. Sam Amadi is the only top public official I know that drives himself. He has no retinue of aides. He does not travel by First Class, even though his status demands he does so, by Nigerian standard. He maintains a modest life of piety, trust and honesty of intentions. This has been his trademark for decades. I strongly suspect that it"s an attempt by some politicians struggling to edge him out so that they can take his place. Adewale Adeoye

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[Felix Ofou]

I wish to lend my voice to this mindless controversy concocted by carpet baggers desperate to hijack the chairmanship of the National Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC), Dr Sam Amadi whom I have known for over three decades. 

Even before Amadi came out to clear the air, I knew that it was a script from hell intended to dent his hard earned reputation and thereafter deny him another tenure. I smelt a poisonous rat from a 100 kilometres. I knew a cabal was at work and I determined that if only on this score, I will be willing to return to the trenches and see to it that a good man was not dragged down by forces of darkness. 

Sam, as we call him may have his faults or failings. But I can testify that there are three sterling qualities that no one can deny him or can ever take from him. He is an unrepentant patriot. He is not corrupt. He will always stand with the masses no matter the odds.

I remember when he newly took over as chairman of NERC and we were talking on the phone about his immediate challenges. He told me how shocked he was to learn that 17 brand new vehicles were attached to his office and fuelled by the commission. Of course he quickly reassigned the vehicles and kept only one.

His sense of duty and valour that he brings to the job are unmissable. I dare also say that if he was remotely corrupt as his traducers would want us to believe, the cabal in the power sector would have shot him down long ago. It is his unmatchable integrity that's keeping him till now. 

Very few people know that Dr Amadi coauthored the document used in registering the National Conscience Party (NCP). This was while still serving under the gregarious and irrepressible late Chief Gani Fawehinmi‎. So passionate was his drive at that time that most of us his comrades regret till today why we did not join forces with the NCP at the onset of this democratic experiment in 1998.

Anyone who has had time to listen to Amadi speak will know that he's passionate about Nigeria. Whether as a student activist, attorney, Adviser to former Senate President or as chairman of NERC, you cannot deny his zeal for the country. 

It is too late for anyone to want to undertake a hatchet job on Sam. Clearly impossible to want to smear him with a tarred brush. Because the man chose a path of integrity early in the day. And is definitely not attracted or motivated by personal or pecuniary gains.

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From: Felix Ofou Sent: Friday, 6 November 2015 23:48 To: waleadeoye90 via AfricanWorldForum Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Sam Amadi is not corrupt

I wish to lend my voice to this mindless controversy concocted by carpet baggers desperate to hijack the chairmanship of the National Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC), Dr Sam Amadi whom I have known for over three decades. 

Even before Amadi came out to clear the air, I knew that it was a script from hell intended to dent his hard earned reputation and thereafter deny him another tenure. I smelt a poisonous rat from a 100 kilometres. I knew a cabal was at work and I determined that if only on this score, I will be willing to return to the trenches and see to it that a good man was not dragged down by forces of darkness. 

Sam, as we call him may have his faults or failings. But I can testify that there are three sterling qualities that no one can deny him or can ever take from him. He is an unrepentant patriot. He is not corrupt. He will always stand with the masses no matter the odds.

I remember when he newly took over as chairman of NERC and we were talking on the phone about his immediate challenges. He told me how shocked he was to learn that 17 brand new vehicles were attached to his office and fuelled by the commission. Of course he quickly reassigned the vehicles and kept only one.

His sense of duty and valour that he brings to the job are unmissable. I dare also say that if he was remotely corrupt as his traducers would want us to believe, the cabal in the power sector would have shot him down long ago. It is his unmatchable integrity that's keeping him till now. 

Very few people know that Dr Amadi coauthored the document used in registering the National Conscience Party (NCP). This was while still serving under the gregarious and irrepressible late Chief Gani Fawehinmi‎. So passionate was his drive at that time that most of us his comrades regret till today why we did not join forces with the NCP at the onset of this democratic experiment in 1998.

Anyone who has had time to listen to Amadi speak will know that he's passionate about Nigeria. Whether as a student activist, attorney, Adviser to former Senate President or as chairman of NERC, you cannot deny his zeal for the country. 

It is too late for anyone to want to undertake a hatchet job on Sam. Clearly impossible to want to smear him with a tarred brush. Because the man chose a path of integrity early in the day. And is definitely not attracted or motivated by personal or pecuniary gains.

From Felix Ofou

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[Joe Attueyi]

Ambode seems to be over his head. If he can't improve on the standards set by Fashola he should at least maintain them. 

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[Joe Attueyi]

While the proletariat are caterwauling on yahoo groups the Abachas are chilling in Aso Rock 

https://www.facebook.com/kay.ogun.5/posts/750068388460689

Kayode Ogundaimisi

Photo-Speak! Blood is thicker than..... Sani Abacha family who till date refuse to return BILLIONS of dollars belonging to #Nigeria. They met with First Lady Mrs Aisha Buhari for a family reunion in Aso Rock led by Gumsu Abacha who declared during her campaign for former President Goodluck Jonathan that Nigerian's were ungrateful lots who did not appreciate her fathers sacrifice.  

In same week when Nigerian Customs seized a bus plague donated by UK based Platform - activism, education and the arts  in honour of Late Ken Saro Wiwa killed 20 years ago by Sanni Abacha. The Abacha's make a come back reunion into the Presidential Villa. Disappointed?

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[rotimi fashakin]

This is one nauseating post from you, Joe.

So, because Gumsu is a daughter of the late Sani Abacha, she should be ostracized by the society?

I did NOT know you are more deceptive than you profess to be.

As the National Publicity Secretary of the defunct CPC, I was privy to the affairs of the party.

Mohammed Abacha had more delegate votes at the 2011 CPC governorship primary in Kano state. The BoT, led by GMB (now PMB), disqualified him, inter alia, for the indictment of a Swiss court. In his place, Gen. Abdul-jafar Isa, being the first runners up in the election, was accepted in his place!

If PMB did not condone criminality then, he won't do it now. But it is preposterous, nay iniquitous, to expect him to simply clobber anyone called Abacha because of the sins of the family patriarch. I am sure you have read your bible in the book of Ezekiel that the "soul that sins shall die."

Do not, for any moment, lose sight of that!

Thank you.

 

Rotimi Fashakin

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It is called the fullness of hypocrisy but then you cannot be surprised considering that the 73 year old General who served under Abacha as PTF Chairman, told the whole world that Abacha did not steal.....

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Folks

I hope you have noticed that neither Roteh nor Imperial Ltd have addressed their responses to Kayode Ogundaimisi the copyright owner of the pictures and original Facebook post!

It is my posting of the same that has become  preposterous, nay iniquitous. Hehehe . Naija people and  419 ways never cease to amaze

Joe
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Pastor Joe, and his double standards . 

Pastor Joe didn't see anything wrong last week when the former president, Goodluck Jonathan ( looter of the federal republic ) visited president Buhari but now complains against the visit of the daughter of an ex looter ( Gumsu Abacha ) to the wife of the president. 

Dia riz Goodu o ! 

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[John Ebohon]

Rotimi,

 

Do you know that ostracising anyone connected with corruption by society is a far more formidable power of correction than imprisonment? What is truly nauseating is sycophantic nature of people of your ilk who have no moral compass, and move in the direction of the wind.

 

If Buhari is truly for everybody and owned by no one, such a meeting, particularly on the eve of Ken Sarowiwa’s remembrance, and more so, when the Federal Government is withholding one of the memorabilia on the excuse that it is inflammatory, the wife of a sitting head of State will be welcoming Abacha’s family to Aso Rock; you see this as sensitive and appropriate. Since you are versed in the scriptures, did the scripture not also say that the sins of a father shall be visited on to the sons for four generations?

 

Rather than deem Joe’s observation nauseating, I would have pointed to the fact that PDP and the Jonathan administration never hesitated in embracing Abacha’s son, hence the family, when it suited them. When this happened, none of the protest following this current visit was forthcoming.

OJ  

[GEORGE Kerley]

Ostracize? Someday you will be surprised that to learn that the Abacha's were strong benefactors to the Buhari family ooo. We all saw how Abacha came to Buhari's aid when he appointed him to head PTF.

These people have a way of doing their things. Have you ever heard Buhari speak of the humungous Abacha loot that Nigeria has still not finished recovering decades after? Or you think it is for nothing that Buhari deliberately speaks on PDP's misrule of the past 16 years of PDP.....?

They know themselves o!

GK

[rotimi fashakin]

 John,

If you take time to read the gibberish (from you) again, you'd see the defect in logic and sense. In short, yours was unmitigated bunkum!

My disagreement with Joe's was with a good reason. It is WRONG, under whatever guise, to demonize anybody on account of the sins of his/her forebears. Was that NOT what MLK said in his famous "I have a dream" speech? He longed for a day when his daughters would NOT be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.

It is wrong for anybody to attempt to prey on our propensity for the lynch-mob syndrome to lure us into clobbering undeservedly some innocent people among us.

That was the thrust of my disagreement. It was too simple to be understood but not for the conflicted soul that MUST see everything wrong from the pen of a BUHARI supporter, albeit, vacuously!

Next time, before you respond to mine, allow the right signals to flow from the cranial cavity before you depress the 'SEND' button. Okay? Thank you.

Rotimi Fashakin

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[John Ebohon]

Fashakin,

 

You are so shallow in your thinking, how anyone with the kind of imbecilic mentality that you have could ever rise to become a secretary of any political party is unimaginable. What crimes did Black people commit for which MLK had asked their generations not to be judged – is it for being enslaved. I would say you are a fool but you do reason like one most of the time.

[rotimi fashakin]

John Ebohon,

It is a pity that you pretend to have a cranial cavity occupying large portion in your head and you do not understand simple juxtaposition.

How do i continue to engage you with your utterly fatuous disposition?

In Engineering, we say we are ninety degrees out of phase.

As we sign off in radio communication, especially when there is no thing more useful to be said, OUT!

 

Rotimi Fashakin

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[John Ebohon]

Rotimi Fashakin,

 

What do you know about engineering? Jokes apart, it is surprising how an dopey individual like you could become a secretary of any political party, no wonder CPC wallowed in the wilderness for such a long time. Is surprising that after the coalition you were consigned to the waste heap, clapping behind the fence. What a liability you have become to yourself, not to talk of others. You are not only an idiot, an idiot you will remain.

[Afis Deinde]

Facebook is where you get your pastoral news, Joe Attueyi?

Your Wall Street chips keep going down!

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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[Joe Attueyi]

The list of 'wailing wailers' keeps increasing daily

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Nigerians disenchanted as new president ‘too slow’ to deliver on lofty campaign promises
By Ali Abare Abubakar - Special to The Washington Times -
Sunday, November 8, 2015
ABUJA, Nigeria — President Muhammadu Buhari rode to victory in May on a promise to revive the country’s moribund economy, vanquish Boko Haram terrorists who controlled much of the northeastern part of the country and tackle the pervasive corruption that has stifled development in Africa’s most populous nation.

Five months later there is growing disenchantment that the president has not delivered on his lofty promises, while taking an unprecedented amount of time just getting his government staffed.

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“I think he’s too slow,” said Innocent Lagi, a Buhari ally and former attorney general of Nasarawa State in central Nigeria. “He must have underestimated the problems of the country.”

Six months into office, Mr. Buhari had installed just half of the Cabinet and top-level appointments under his discretion, slowing the former army general’s ability to capitalize on his postelection honeymoon. Recently the Nigerian Senate approved the last of his Cabinet picks, but only after the president admitted he hasn’t figured out exactly which portfolios his new ministers will be given.

Mr. Buhari has complained that the country was “materially and morally vandalized” before he took power, but critics say that his slow start is undercutting the momentum to overhaul the government and economy in Nigeria, which Transparency International ranked as 136th — tied with Russia — among 176 countries in its Corruption Perceptions Index.


“The change was only in the new leadership,” said Mr. Lagi. “The courts, legislature and other institutions like the army, police, etc., have not changed. The president has no powers to fight corruption; the institutions do. He can’t take a corrupt person to court. He can’t arrest a corrupt person. The reality is that the country hasn’t moved forward.”

The Nigerian newspaper The Guardian editorialized recently that, “instead of whining and seemingly ruing why he chose to lead at this time, the president should consider the dire situation of the economy as an opportunity to demonstrate that Nigerians did not make a mistake by giving him the job he sought for 12 years.”

The paper continued, “All the citizens want is for him to translate his plethora of sweet promises into policies and programs that would improve their lot. All that Nigerians need now is his performance and not excuses.”

Inaction at the top levels of government has mirrored economic gridlock throughout the country.

Hajiya Hafsat Musa, who runs a small clothing shop in Mararaba, a suburb of the capital of Abuja, said she has been losing money for months because the government has been slow in issuing paychecks. Most of her customers are civil servants, she said.

“My customers no longer patronize me,” said Ms. Musa. “Some of them have not been paid for months. The way the economy runs, if there are no ministers, everything is grounded.”

Her experience is common throughout Nigeria, an oil-rich country that has long failed to live up to its full economic potential. In April, a month before Mr. Buhari took office, unemployment in Nigeria was 7.5 percent. In July, for which the most recent statistics are available, the jobless rate was 8.2 percent, according to government figures.

The Nigerian Labor Congress, the 4 million-member umbrella group for the country’s trade unions, recently reported that about 60,000 Nigerians have lost their jobs in recent months because of a drop in government spending on infrastructure. “It has become critical. We are still lacking answers,” said Congress President Amechi Asugwuni. “We have not seen the plan for infrastructure.”

Mr. Buhari’s defenders said the president is doing the best he can to change patterns that have beset the country for years. Spokesman Alhaji Lai Mohammed of the president’s political party, the All Progressives Congress, noted that Mr. Buhari was the first Nigerian politician to unseat an incumbent president and take over the reins of government in a peaceful transition. Change isn’t easy, he said.

“He’s not slow,” said Mr. Mohammed. “The government is focused; it is methodological. People will say this government does not have ministers, but we are saying this government wants people with proven track records of competence and integrity.”

Mr. Buhari, who headed the country for two years in the mid-1980s after a military coup, defeated incumbent Goodluck Jonathan in a March vote that won praise from the Obama administration and international election officials. Mr. Jonathan became the country’s first sitting president to cede power peacefully, declaring, “Nobody’s ambition is worth the blood of any Nigerian.”

Tough slog

But it has been a tough slog for the winner since, and when Mr. Buhari has taken decisive action, he has stirred controversy.

The banking sector has shed jobs, for example, because the president ordered government ministries to consolidate their accounts in the Central Bank of Nigeria to curb overly complicated public finances exploited by corrupt bureaucrats.

Analysts said the move — technically called a “treasury single account” policy — was a major step in cracking down on unscrupulous public servants and their friends in the private financial sector.

“TSA is a masterstroke policy of the current government, and the ingenuity behind it must be widely applauded,” said Olusola Adegbite, a law professor at Obafemi Awolowo University. “It is the most potent anti-corruption weapon that would not only cut loose all the fingers of corruption in government, but is also an ingenious policy that will fumigate the banking sector that continues to reek of filth and rot.”

Despite those measures, even Mr. Buhari’s formerly stalwart supporters say the president’s record hasn’t lived up to his rhetoric on cracking down on graft.

“Inasmuch as I want to commend President Buhari on the fight against corruption, I think that the crusade is rather very slow,” said Alex Kwapnoe, an All Progressives Congress member who helped coordinate the president’s political campaign in Plateau State in north-central Nigeria.

“There are a lot of these corrupt former officials left free, and the institutions of the state have the capacity to bring all of them to book,” Mr. Kwapnoe said. “Unless we do that, we will be paying lip service by leaving other persons who were involved in corrupt activities.”

At the Federal Medical Center in Keffi, about an hour’s drive east of Abuja, for example, hospital managers have repeatedly complained that doctors send patients to their private clinics to capture the hospital’s business. The same doctors drive expensive cars and live in big houses despite their modest salaries.

“It’s pretty obvious they are diverting hospital funds into their pockets,” said a member of the Association of Resident Doctors, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retribution. “We want Buhari to beam his searchlight into the financial activities of the Federal Medical Center.”

Mr. Buhari’s progress against the brutal Boko Haram movement also has been mixed. In the months after they garnered headlines by kidnapping 276 schoolgirls last year, the Islamic extremists ran rampant across northeastern Nigeria, eluding capture and defeating Nigerian forces in skirmishes. Their boldness was a key factor in Mr. Buhari’s victory over Mr. Jonathan.

With his military background, Mr. Buhari has reorganized the army, created safe havens for the more than 2 million Nigerians displaced in the fighting and orchestrated offensives alongside Cameroonian and Chadian troops that have set the terrorists back on their heels.

But Boko Haram fighters are still active. Few believe the president will make good on his pledge to bring an end to the Boko Haram insurgency by the end of the year.

Yakubu Gowon, a former military head of state, told reporters that he believed the Nigerian military eventually would defeat the terrorist group but that the president’s year-end deadline was a mistake.

“I can tell you this: Nobody can really talk about when any particular operation is going to end,” he told a group of Nigerian reporters. “Yes, you can say you target a particular time, but it may finish before that time or it may go slightly beyond. To end it, that is the most important thing.”

Recently, top military officials cited stormy weather and other difficulties in sending forces to remote areas for delaying the progress of their offensive.

To Daniel Abutu, a bus driver in Abuja, the military’s excuses were emblematic of Mr. Buhari’s overall performance.

“How can the military say weather is impeding the fight?” asked Mr. Abutu. “Is it because they have realized it’s no longer feasible for them to deliver as promised?”

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"In Engineering, we say we are ninety degrees out of phase" Rotimi Fashakin

In engineering, being 90 degrees out of phase is the in thing; you have a capacitor where the current leads the voltage by 90 degrees and an inductor where on the other hand the voltage leads the current by 90 degrees.
This property of being out of phase forms the basis of the wireless revolution we witness today thanks to Maxwell.
So it would be necessary to be 90 degrees out of phase for leaps in communication; it is not a bad thing unless my brother Rotimi who leads the engineering arm of APC is up to something...
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Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015, 5:50 PM

John
Ebohon,It is a

pity that you pretend to have a cranial cavity occupying
large portion in your head and you do not understand simple

juxtaposition.How do i

continue to engage you with your utterly fatuous
disposition?In
Engineering, we say we are ninety degrees out of phase.
As we
sign off in radio communication, especially when there is no
thing more useful to be said, OUT!
 Rotimi Fashakin

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SteveK,

The drunk that you are does not allow you to reason through any issue before responding. My position on capital flight from Africa is well known, it is an informed position that I have held before your appearance on cyberspace or before ‘nigerintellectual’ was formed. I have also defended this position at international gatherings specifically on corruption and money laundering where EFCC and other anti-corruption bodies were in attendance. If Abatcha was alive and repatriated his wealth to Nigeria, he would have my sympathy, so your insinuation of selective persecution is a figment of your warped imagination.

 

Ayo, in his response, clearly identified the issue at stake whether it is right or wrong for society to ostracise people directly or indirectly deemed to have violated the norms and values of society. I advanced other grounds that he could come to the aid of the Abachas, for example, GEJ and his administrations courted the current head of the Abacha family when it suited. You chose to concentrate on the corruption element of Abacha’s atrocities, you have done this purely for convenience and point scoring opportunity – what a typical billy goat that you have become.

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John,

 

You want the children of corrupt people ostracized? Weren't you the same person that maintained that even big time looters shouldn't even be punished as long as they invest their loot in Nigeria?

 

What changed here that you want innocent children of transgressors ostracize?

 

You really are either vacuous and unprincipled or your opinions on events depend on who the person involved is; if a friendly (known thief) let him/her be if he/she spends her lot in Nigeria and if an unfriendly (something that would be negative to Pres. Buhari), crucify him/her.

 

No honor!

 

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Illegality Of Stay Of Proceedings In Senate President Saraki's Corruption Trial By Femi Falana

On May 13, 2015, President Goodluck Jonathan signed the Administration of Criminal Justice Bill into law. Both chambers of the national assembly had passed the bill to modernise our criminal justice system. In particular,  the law has abolished stay of proceedings and interlocutory appeals by merging all preliminary objections with the substantive case in any criminal case instituted in a federal court in the country. The revolutionary intervention of the law was occasioned by the unending trial of politically exposed persons in corruption cases. In fact, the last straw that broke the carmel’s back was the case of Mohammed Abacha v FRN, which had been stalled for 12 years on account of the preliminary objections raised and argued from the high court to the apex court by the defense counsel, Mr. J. B. Daudu SAN.  At the end of the “Israelite’s journey,” the Supreme Court ordered that the trial be commenced de novo at the federal capital territory high court. Having been completely frustrated in the circumstance, the federal government was compelled to discontinue Mr. Abacha’s corruption charge involving the theft of N664 billion under the pretext that the case would be “amicably” resolved!
Before then, the Lagos State government had been forced to abolish stay of proceedings in criminal trials following the prosecution of Major Hamza Al-Mustapha over the murder of Mrs. Kudirat Abiola. The trial had lasted 13 years on account of several preliminary objections and interlocutory appeals that were pursued from the High Court to the Supreme Court. Contrary to the misleading view of many senior lawyers that the abolition of stay of proceedings in criminal trials is illegal it has been judicially decided that statutes that oust the jurisdiction of courts to stay proceedings are constitutionally valid. In FRN v Nwude (2006) 2 EFCCLR 149 at 161 it was held by Justice Oyewole J. (as he then was) that section 40 of the Economic and Financial Crimes Act, 2004 which abolished stay of proceedings is not an infraction of the powers of the court. According to his lordship,”inherent powers of the court only come into play in the absence of express statutory provisions and the court then fills in the gap by invoking its inherent powers to do justice in a given case….the intention of the legislature in this instance is to remove impediments in the way of the administration of justice.” Similarly, in Ajiboye v FRN (2013) 17 WRN 127 at 145 the Court of Appeal (per Justice Ogbuniya JCA) struck out the application for stay of proceedings on the ground that it was incompetent “in the face of the sacrosanct prescription of section 40 of the Act which clearly ousted the jurisdiction of the court over it.”

It is trite in law that jurisdiction oxygenates all proceedings in our courts. Accordingly, the exercise of judicial powers by any court without jurisdiction is bound to end in a nullity, regardless of the industry invested in it. With the enactment of the AJCA, the suspension of criminal cases by all accused persons has been effectively stopped in Nigeria.  Therefore, any judge who orders a stay f proceedings in any criminal trial does so illegally and is liable to be sanctioned by the National Judicial Council. It is unfathomable that the Supreme Court decided to return the country to the status quo ante in a rather brazen and bizarre manner. Given the ouster clause contained in section 306 of the AJCA, the Code of Conduct Tribunal ought not to have delivered its ruling in respect of the preliminary objections filed by Dr. Saraki. The ruling should have been read together with the judgment after the conclusion of the trial. It was the premature ruling of the Tribunal which led to the filing of an interlocutory appeal in the matter. Instead of declining jurisdiction to entertain the interlocutory appeal that has been abolished by the AJCA,  the Court of Appeal ordered a suspension of the trial at the Code of Conduct Tribunal to await its decision. Although the Court of Appeal eventually dismissed the appeal the trial of the substantive case at the Code of Conduct Tribunal has been further halted by the Supreme Court which has granted another stay of proceedings pending the hearing of the interlocutory appeal filed before it by the accused person.

However, it is sad to note that in granting the order of stay of proceedings in the case the apex court ignored the provisions of sections 306 and 396 of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act, 2015. It was not a case of oversight or lack of knowledge of the existence of the AJCA on the part of the Court, but a deliberate judicial decision to turn back the hand of the clock in the ongoing battle against corruption and impunity in the land. Curiously, some senior lawyers have endorsed the blatant violation of the law in the matter. I am disturbed that a progressive lawyer like Emeka Ngige SAN was reported to have justified the illegality of the order of stay of proceedings. No doubt, the prosecution and the defence counsel who are Senior Advocates of Nigeria cannot be exonerated in the mockery of the criminal justice system. By arguing preliminary objections that have been merged with the substantive case the senior counsel involved in the diversionary legal rigmarole overlooked the relevant provisions of the AJCA. Similarly, the members of the Code of Conduct  Tribunal and the Justices of the Appeal Court did not advert their minds to the combined effect of sections 306 and 396 of the AJCA.  In any case, one had expected the learned Justices of the Supreme Court to correct the litany of legal errors committed at the lower courts. But the errors were endorsed as the apex court decided to halt the trial without any legal justification whatsoever. The counsel to the federal government, Mr. Rotimi Jacobs SAN was even boxed to a corner by the Court to the extent that he had to undertake not to proceed with the trial at the Code of Conduct Tribunal pending the determination of the interlocutory appeal!

As a creation of the law, the Supreme Court is bound by the law. So are the Justices of the Court. In Joseph Amashoma v The State (2011) 14 NWLR (pt 1268) 530, the Honourable Justice John Fabiyi held that “The appellant’s counsel should be reminded of the doctrine of Separation of Powers as enshrined in the 1999 Constitution. The Legislature is to enact law while it is the duty of the Judiciary to interpret the law as enacted….There is no escape route.” In the instant case, there was no escape route. Yet, the Supreme Court discountenanced the tenet of separation of powers by the deliberate refusal to limit itself to the interpretation of the relevant provisions of the AJCA. As the inherent powers of a Court cannot be invoked to supersede the extant provisions of a valid and subsisting legislation the Supreme Court ought to be challenged to justify the purported annulment of the clear and unambiguous provisions of the AJCA. With profound respect to the revered members of the panel of the Court the order of stay of proceedings granted by them last week flies in the face  of  section 306 of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act, 2015 which provides that “An application for stay of proceedings in respect of a criminal matter before the court shall not be entertained.” Indeed, ex abundanti cautela, section 396 thereof further provides that all preliminary objections “shall be considered along with the substantive issues and a ruling shall thereon be made at the time of the delivery of judgment.” Apart from abolishing stay of proceedings the AJCA has effectively banned interlocutory appeals in criminal trials.

Therefore, the controversial ruling of the Supreme Court should not be allowed to stand because of its far-reaching implications and negative impact on the administration of criminal justice in the country. Since the ruling is binding on all other courts in line with the hallowed principle of stare decisis the Supreme Court should take advantage of the substantive appeal in the Saraki’s case to review its position with a view to confirming the abolition of stay of proceedings by section 306 of the AJCA. This clarification should be made, as soon as possible, in line with the letter and spirit of the AJCA. Otherwise, every accused person will continue to file interlocutory appeals and proceed to ask for a stay of proceedings pending the determination of such appeals. The application will have to be granted as the hands of either the trial court or the Court of Appeal would have been tied by the erroneous decision of the Supreme Court in the case of Saraki v FRN. The apex court is advised to distance itself from the antics of the influential agents of impunity in the legal profession who have resolved to frustrate the trial of corruption cases by filing cumbrous motions and frivolous preliminary objections designed to shield members of the ruling class from prosecution. Our judges should realize that the inglorious era of engaging in dilatory tactics in criminal trials by defence counsel has been consigned to the dustbin of history.

Femi Falana SAN.

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Professor Osinbajo, Abubakar Audu, and the Zoo Question

By Pius Adesanmi.

A young and very patriotic Nigerian contacted me from Japan recently. The volume of messages I receive daily from Nigerian millennials all over the world is one reason I have been unable to just close shop and give up on Fatherland. They are so passionate about their country! Every day, hundreds engage me, privately or publicly, taking me to task over issues relating to our country: “why did you write this?” “what is your take on that?”

The young man in question took me to task over a statement I have often repeated on Facebook, to wit: “Nigeria is not a zoo because Nnamdi Kanu says so; Nigeria is a zoo because she rewards crime and impunity.”

The young man wanted to know if I truly believe that impunity makes Nigeria a zoo or my frequent recourse to that statement is just a way of letting off steam. 

No, whenever I make this statement, I am not letting off steam. Impunity is what makes Nigeria a zoo, not Nnamdi Kanu’s misguided rhetoric of hate. There are harmful things that Nigerians do to Nigeria in every station of life on a daily basis precisely because they can predict the outcome: lack of consequences.

Daily life in Nigeria is a bazaar of nation-ruining actions devoid of consequences. You just do it because you can. Just like that. We are unaware of the enormity of the problem because we think it is limited to politicians and public office holders. But many Nigerians have country-ruining impunity running as blood in their veins. We have allowed it to become second nature; to define us. DNA tinz.

Professor Osinbajo went to Okene in Kogi state last week and stood on the same podium with Abubakar Audu, his political party’s gubernatorial candidate in the forthcoming elections. For the record, I have condemned that election as a choice between Satan and Lucifer. I don’t want my focus on Audu here to be twisted by any reader into an endorsement of his opponent, Idris Wada of PDP. I am not endorsing Wada o. Ehen.

But let us return to Professor Osinbajo and his buddy, Abubabkar Audu. To the extent that the change agenda of the current administration has a professional cum technocrat cum intellectual shining light, it is Professor Osinbajo. In fact, part of the appeal of that team to Nigerians resides in the possibility of President Buhari’s famed integrity combining effortlessly with Professor Osinbajo’s unimpeachable and intimidating credentials as a Professor of Law, a Pastor, and a SAN to deal a death blow to corruption at the practical and symbolic levels.

Appointing Magu to head EFCC, blocking leakages here and there, adding more bark to the work of the CCT (hopefully there will be some bite soon) – these are all practical baby steps in the fight against corruption. But so great is the power of symbolism that a thousand practical steps could be destroyed or rolled back with just one symbolic misstep. 

Abubakar Audu’s corruption history is terrible. No need going into all the sordid details here. Suffice it to say that he still has an ongoing corruption indictment with EFCC to the tune of N11 billion. In any standard democracy, it would have amounted to political suicide for a sitting Vice President to publicly cuddle a man indicted by the anti-corruption agency of his own government. It is bad enough that his party settled on such a candidate!

Standing with such a man on a podium to raise his hands and do photo-ops is a terrible symbolic blow on the anti-corruption war. Now, why would a man such as Professor Osinbajo do this? Because he knows that he operates in a zoo where politicians pay no political price for such things. Because he will not fall in any polls. Because he does not have to worry about his political future. Because he does not have to worry about the Nigerian media. Not even the activist media I write for, Sahara Reporters and Premium Times, has deemed it necessary to look into this ugly episode. Because his aides don’t even have to worry about how they will spin this episode.

Oppressed Nigerians, whose salaries have not been paid, will do the work that Professor Osinbajo’s aides are paid to do. They will argue that Professor Osinbajo was just on a routine party assignment. They will argue that Abubakar Audu has not been convicted in a court of law. They will argue that… well, you know all their usual arguments. You know all their usual rationalizations and justifications. I don’t need to run through them here. Just read the comments section of this piece whenever it is published.

Professor Osinbajo is not the only one who doesn’t have to worry about consequences because he functions in Nigeria. Governors Adams Oshiomhole and Olusegun Mimiko are on their way out of office. Before they leave, they are both looking for last-minute loans. Mimiko even tried, as we say in Nigeria. He is looking for a domestic loan of only N7 billion. Unlike Mimiko, Oshiomhole is not a local champion. He does not play in the local league. He is looking for a foreign loan. Maybe too much rainfall is what has been preventing him from traveling abroad to pick up the loan check.

Now, why are Oshiomhole and Mimiko taking last-minutes loans - moves that could crash them in polls and have dire consequences for their political future in standard democracies? Because they both know that they can access these loans a day to leaving office, parlay a substantial part of the said loans into juicy retirement packages for themselves, and end up in the Senate where they will hook up with Godswill Akapbio to break traffic rules in irresponsible convoys – and still end up with Nigerians defending them.

As civil servants, teachers, Pastors, imams, mechanics, market women, students, hair dressers, farmers, traders, the Nigerians defending these guys in government also produce hundreds of thousands of acts of micro-impunity in every sphere of our national life daily. As for Nigerians in Diaspora, they are law abiding citizens here but they cannot wait to get off the plane in Lagos or Abuja to partake in the festival of impunity.

That Nigerian waiting patiently for his turn in the queue in London, Washington, Ottawa, or Paris is just forming law abiding citizen. Once he gets off the plane in Nigeria, he is going to try to jump the queue at immigration. If you accost him, he will answer you:

“Do you know who I am?”

So much for thirty years of life abroad!

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Tinubu, Fashola, Ambode and Nigeria

The Verdict By Olusegun Adeniyi

Sometime in 2006, (I cannot recollect the exact date or month), some selected editors were invited to a suite in Eko Holiday Inn to have a parley with the then Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. As the then editor of THISDAY, I was also invited. Even though the reason for the invitation was not stated by Tinubu’s Information and Strategy Commissioner, Mr Oladele Alake, there were hints that the governor wanted to use the occasion to confirm the rumour already gaining grounds that he had endorsed his relatively unknown Chief of Staff, Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola, SAN, as the candidate of his party (Action Congress) for the gubernatorial election in the state and by implication, as his likely successor.

I will never forget what transpired at that intemperate meeting with Tinubu because it ended on a rather unpleasant note, with him declaring, before he left in anger: “Gentlemen, in this game, I am the donkey everybody wants to ride (he actually used an obscene word I would rather not repeat here) and I will determine who rides me.”

The bone of contention was that for a man who had an A-List cabinet in terms of academic credentials, professional experience and exposure, aside their expertise in different fields, it was strange to us that Tinubu would not find any of them suitable to succeed him and would rather settle for a personal aide. Therefore, having never interacted with Fashola, most of us believed the governor was only trying to impose a puppet who had no mind of his own, someone who would be easily susceptible to manipulation.

For the record, Tinubu’s commissioners included Mr Yemi Osinbajo, a highly respected professor of law and Senior Advocate of Nigeria (currently the vice president); Mr Olawale Edun who had worked in the Wall Street firms of Lehman Brothers and Chase Manhattan Capital Markets Corporation in New York and the World Bank/IFC in Washington DC; Mr. Olayemi Cardoso who started his career in 1981 at Citibank in Europe and is now Chairman, Citibank Nigeria; renowned architect, Mr. Lanre Towry-Coker and several other accomplished professionals like Dr. Leke Pitan, Mr Tola Kasali, Mr. Ben Akabueze, Mr. Tunji Bello and Mr. Alake himself.

It was surprising to us that Tinubu could not find any of these people (or some of the others who had expressed interest like his deputy and banker, Mr Femi Pedro) worthy to be his successor. But what led to the open hostility at the meeting was the fact that Tinubu was well aware that the opposition to the idea of Fashola was because many of the editors had taken sides with their friend and then Senator, Tokunbo Afikuyomi, who was also seeking the party’s ticket. In trying to convince us about the wisdom of his choice, Tinubu said: “I know all the people who want to succeed me because I have worked with all of them and I can assure you that in terms of temperament, competence and capacity to deliver, none of them comes close to Fashola.”

We took Tinubu’s words with a pinch of salt and the conclusion most of us could draw that day was that the governor was overreaching himself on the issue and would likely fail. We also made our point very clear to him in that respect. Of course, Fashola got the party’s ticket but that was the easier part. For the election proper, the early days of the campaigns suggested that the more known (and equally more popular among Lagosians) Mr. Jimi Agbaje might spring a surprise despite the fact that he was running on a weak political platform. Mr. Musiliu Obanikoro, a former commissioner of Tinubu and then sitting Senator, who was contesting on the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) platform was also a formidable candidate who could also turn the table.

However, events took a dramatic turn in the course of the three live television debates organized between the three candidates by three different media institutions, including Channels Television. Perhaps because it was novel, many Lagosians watched the three sessions as one left-handed man jotted down questions before he would respond with poise and authority. Without any doubt, Fashola was the clear winner in all the three debates and that was the point at which Lagosians started paying attention, believing that a man who would exhibit such brilliance could not possibly be anybody’s puppet.

At the election, Fashola won and he literally hit the ground running. Helped by the foundation already laid and the political shield provided by Tinubu, Fashola also had an advantage. Whereas, his predecessor spent most of his time in office fighting with the federal government under President Olusegun Obasanjo, Fashola had a good rapport with Abuja. In fact, my late boss, President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua had a strong affection for Fashola whom he used to call “Governor Lagos”. Financially, all the local government funds withheld by the federal government under Obasanjo were also returned to Lagos at the beginning of Fashola's tenure.

What all these mean in effect is that Fashola was opportuned from the beginning but that was not the basis of his success. He is also a visionary leader. I recall a conversation with him about three years ago where he expressed his fascination with the “Broken Windows Theory”, which he said underpins his attitude to governance. Based on a thesis by James Wilson and George Kelling which originally centred on crime prevention, the broken windows theory was published in the Atlantic Monthly in 1982.

The moral of the proposition is that it is much more productive and far cheaper to fix a “broken window” (metaphor for any problem) before it escalates. And as one commentator puts it, “we’ve seen clean, functional systems deteriorate pretty quickly once windows start breaking…neglect accelerates the rot faster than any other factor.” That was the philosophical underpinning of Fashola’s stewardship in Lagos and all factors considered, he succeeded in restoring order to a chaotic city memorably dubbed “urban jungle” by President Obasanjo and that is no mean achievement.

However, I am also aware that with all his brilliance, Fashola could not have achieved much in Lagos without the support he got from Tinubu who watched his back. But as it so ever happens between godfather and godson, the relationship between the duo was, at some point, widely suspected not to be so cordial, to put it mildly. While there were never open confrontations, those adept at watching body languages had stories to tell about what was happening behind-the-scenes between the two.

Since I was away from the country between July 2010 and July 2011 and did not witness the election of that year as well as the events preceding it, all I know about the relationship between Tinubu and Fashola were only what I read in the print media. But to the extent that Fashola got the party’s ticket with which he contested and won his second-term mandate, we can assume that the disagreement between the two may have been somewhat exaggerated.

However, the problem began early last year when Fashola started thinking about his own successor. When asked about the issue, Fashola said he was not worried but at the same time concerned. “I hope, firstly, that the next person is a lot better than me. I hope that he can do in four years what we did in eight years, and that can only be beneficial to all of us. We want somebody who can do these things in a shorter time and make all of the things we have done child’s play. That is why I said I don’t want to be the best governor of Lagos State. The best governor of Lagos is a futuristic idea. Every governor of Lagos should be better than the last one. My innermost interest in the next election is for who will best protect and advance the interest and the course of the state,” he stressed.

At that period, the front runners in the race were Mr. Akinwunmi Ambode, a former Accountant-General of the state, who was being tipped by Tinubu and Mr. Supo Shasore, a former Attorney General and Justice Commissioner, who was believed to be Fashola’s anointed. At the end, and as to be expected, it was Ambode who won the party’s ticket but the relationship between Fashola and Tinubu had taken a big toll in the process.

No doubt, the emergence of Ambode against Fashola’s preference had put the former governor in an uncomfortable position but he nonetheless campaigned for the man who is now his successor. The challenge of the moment is that Ambode’s handlers are trying to use Fashola as a distraction. The response of my friend and current Lagos State Information Commissioner, Mr. Steve Ayorinde, to a recent critical story published by “The Economist”, is to say the least, very unfortunate and rather unhelpful in the circumstance. I wonder why government spokespersons believe that abusing people would win the argument (or support) for their principal.

I have never met Ambode before but I have no doubt that he will eventually come good if he takes a lesson from Tinubu who himself spent the first year in office being compared to his predecessor, Brigadier-General Buba Marwa (rtd) and falling short in the estimation of most Lagosians at the time. But Tinubu did not try to find fault. He accepted his mistakes, challenged himself and his team and he eventually did well. What that teaches is that Ambode should accept that right now, Lagos is not working, what with soaring crime rate and traffic chaos. But the governor has time on his side to fix the problems. That is the best way to respond to his critics, not by abusing them or taking potshots at his illustrious immediate predecessor. It is important for Ambode to see the bigger picture.

With the constitution of President Muhammadu Buhari’s cabinet that has seen Fashola being handed a critical three-in-one ministry (Power, Works and Housing), the Lagos experiment is now a subject of interrogation in several respects. To the extent that we have too many “broken windows” in our country today, we need men like Fashola who would pay attention to details. My fear, however, is that the former Lagos State governor might have been saddled with too much responsibility. I had been hoping that he would be given either the Power ministry or that of Works. He has been handed the two combined, with additional responsibility for Housing!

I don’t understand why President Buhari would do that just as I fail to get the point being made by those who suggest that Tinubu is the loser in the exercise when in fact he is actually the biggest winner. Any objective assessment of the sharing of portfolios cannot but come to one conclusion: the South-west ministers fare the best in terms of the critical sectors they have been given to handle. Now, as the man who led the zone into the strategic political alliance that produced victory for the opposition, the disproportionate sharing of portfolios in favour of the South-west can only be to Tinubu’s credit regardless of the stories about the relationship with the people so appointed from the zone.

However, perhaps Tinubu’s biggest achievement is the subtle promotion of the Lagos model as the way to go for Nigeria if we are to fulfil our potentials as a nation. That for me is what the appointment of Mr Babatunde Fowler as the chairman of the Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS) and the three-in-one “Ministry of Critical Infrastructure” (for which Fashola is saddled) represents. It is an affirmation of the direction the administration intends to go and I consider it a very bold step by the president.

Before I go further, I need to state that I am quite aware of the sundry allegations that have for years dogged tax administration in Lagos, especially regarding who the actual beneficiaries are as well as other questions that border on transparency in the management of the state's finances. Those are important issues that would have to be addressed. Notwithstanding, in terms of primacy of ideas for modern governance, Lagos remains the model by which Nigeria can work and due credit must be given to Tinubu as the pioneer in that direction.

When people complain about Lagos, it is because they have not paid attention to its huge population, the enormous challenges and what is no more than meager resources, even with all the internally generated revenues. The question really is how the situation would have been if Lagos was, like other states, dependent on oil revenues. One fact most people also ignore is that Lagos contributes significantly to the federal purse. On Monday, Governor Ambode said Lagos accounts for over 65 per cent of Nigeria's non-oil Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and 60 per cent of value added manufacturing while arguing that there was need "to look inward for alternative and sustainable revenue sources apart from oil. Already, Lagos has been in the forefront of generating non-oil revenues."

As I stated earlier the Lagos model has its own contradictions that would have to be resolved in the overall interest of the people of the state and that of the actors themselves if they are not to ultimately lose out. But if Nigeria is ever to develop an economy that is less dependent on oil rent, the Lagos model is the way to go. That perhaps explains why when someone suggested recently that a synergy between the trio of Tinubu, Fashola and Ambode is necessary for sustainable development in Lagos, I could not fault the argument. The logic could be further extrapolated that it would also be in the interest of Nigeria for the three men to work together given Tinubu’s leadership role in the All Progressives Congress (the party in power at the centre); Fashola’s new national assignment in charge of strategic sectors of our national life and Governor Ambode’s duty to fix the problems of the nation’s economic nerve centre.

All said, it must be pointed out that the success recorded in Lagos under Tinubu and Fashola especially owe largely to their very keen understanding of the immediate needs of Lagosians-- free flow of traffic, infrastructure that is tolerably acceptable, improved environmental sanitation and a reasonable level of security. They went ahead first to address these needs in a demonstrable and visible way before evolving taxation mechanisms. It would be recalled that as Tinubu set about fixing pot holes on many Lagos roads, there was always a signage that said "YOUR TAX MONEY AT WORK". The same went with most other public work projects.

When the tax man eventually came calling, most people were able to see the relationship between the increased demand for taxation and the sense of responsibility of their government. This remains the clearest demonstration in recent Nigerian history of the dictum that dictates a correlation between taxation and representation. The lesson is simple: you do not tax people if they cannot see government as representing their interests. The Federal Government must embrace this process and the hard work it entails.

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Shikena 

Afis

“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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On Nov 19, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Alagba Ige,

Chief Ezeana doesn't have even a needle in Epe not to talk of a house in Lekki. Genuine stakeholders in corporate Nigeria don't talk like him .  

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On 19 Nov 2015, at 05:57, Leye Ige ige....@yahoo.com [OmoOdua] <Omo...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

"I am ready to sell my Lekki estate. Any offers?"---Ezeana Achusim

$1:00--final offer
Leye Ige
--------------------------------------------
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I am ready to sell my Lekki estate. Any
offers?


Ezeana
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On
Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 10:05 PM, 'Leye Ige'
via AfricanWorldForum
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wrote:"I have often thought the
mistake the founding fathers did when Lagos was made the
federal capital is they should have out rightly bought the
place. However, because federal funds was used to develop
Lagos and because it was a federal capital, it truly should
belonged to all Nigerians"--Vin Otuonye

Vin,
(1) The
PORTION of Lagos that constituted "federal
capital" was the "colony", around the Island.
Nothing more, nothing less. The Western Region DEVELOPED
those places up to Iddo, Apapa, etc. So, sir, your claim
about Lagos is WRONG.
(2) As to cosmopolitan
nature, Yorubaland is FULL of cosmopolitan
cities--that's because of our welcoming nature which we
DO NOT brag about.
(3) I DO NOT have to
shove anything down your throat. You are NOT Yoruba, so to
you, it may be nothing more than an academic exercise, but
to the Yoruba, it is not; and for Lagos, the entire
territory is Yoruba, federal capital or not; bought out or
not, that is why all the settlements have their Obas. Now,
even if the place was bought out, nothing stops a buy-back,
if necessary. And any sort of instrument can be utilized in
such buy-back. Better still, if Biafra becomes independent,
obviously, its portion of the purchase will become void, by
fiat.
Leye Ige
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Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 7:37 PM




 


Leye
Ige:




You really want to shove this Yoruba
monarchy and way
of life down our throats.
When it comes to cosmopolitan
areas/places
in Nigeria,  for example Lagos, your

Yoruba monarchy holds no ground in majority of that
state.
 The only way the monarchy
should
  matter is who becomes the Oba of
Lagos. This is where non
Lagos royal family
should not dabble into. I have often

thought the mistake the founding fathers did when Lagos
was
made the federal capital is they should
have out rightly
bought the place.
However,
  because federal funds was used
to develop Lagos and because
it was a
federal capital, it truly should belonged to
all Nigerians,. Same with Abuja. However,
 you guys
simply want to down play Lagos
Federal status to suit your
tribal fancy
even though most of
  you guys are not from
Lagos.   Please note I have not
discussed
Yoruba Obas in small Yoruba towns or

villages. 



With the example of Lagos
above,  there's
nothing like living
within Yoruba cosmology.  You live
within
Nigeria cosmology because different Nigerians that
make up the area bring their various ways of
life, culture,
what-have you to bear in
that place.
  If for example Igbo,  Edo,
 Yoruba,  Efik,
etc live in an area,
there may be infusion of the culture of
all
these nationalities in that area. I call it melting
point. 




Now, I expect you to
come swinging.







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Mazi KC Prince Asagwara:
" I have never argued that Igbo
Republicanism should be
exported into
Yoruba land. Your Yoruba Monarchy is part of
living in Yoruba cosmology and I have no
problem with that.
I have always stated
that the firewood
  in a peoples
environment cooks their food for them. To

each, accordingly.

 Let
the Igbo live with their Republicanism, wherever
they are and let the Yorubas abide by their
Monarchism,
wherever they are. That is the
essence of Igbo cosmology
mantra of
"Live & Let Live".



RESPONSE:
This is NOT answering the question. Here's
why: of course, Igbo will live with their
republicanism and
the Yoruba with their
monarchy. BUT WE ARE LIVING TOGETHER
WITHIN
THE SAME GEO-POLITICAL SPACE--- which makes all the
difference. So, how can both
  live together in the same space WITHOUT some
form of
"line" that mus not be
crossed? In other words,
each HOST must be
able to determine such a LINE. the Yoruba

will not interfere in Igbo republicanism in Igboland,
ditto
the Igbo in Yorubaland, at the
same
  time one cannot transport one's
social views into
another's.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara: "Leye Ige, like
a good many
others of non-Igbo origin, you
have misunderstood and
misinterpreted the
concept of "Igbo have no
Kings".
If I recall correctly, my dear Nwanna Dr. Obi
Nwakanma on many occasions explained it to
you, readers.
  Let me here briefly try as
he had. The concept of Igbo have
no Kings
simply implies that every Igbo is King in his
household. And when it comes to community
affairs, OHA as in
the People voices hold
sway over any Eze/King. In Igbo land
areas
where they have
  Ezes/Kings, such people
function at the behest of OHA, the
People.
The Republican nature of Igbo society fashioned it
that way. Just like the Monarchical nature of
the Yoruba
cosmology gives the Kabieysi an
Oracular status to the point
that every
Yoruba must
  bow before him."

RESPONSE: Leaving your
misunderstanding of Yoruba Monarchy
aside,
as long as you live OUTSIDE Igboland, your Oha is
irrelevant; just as the Yoruba will not play
by their own
rules in Igboland. BUT YOU
HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THIS
LIMITATION,
otherwise  "citizenship"
  is
meaningless.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara:
"Leye, our country's
multicultural
mosaic should be a source of strength and

unity rather than disunity; them and us."

RESPONSE: Yep, but what is
the FOUNDATION for that
"source of
strength"? Disrespect breeds disunity

and negates multiculturalism.



Leye
Ige

 




 


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 11/18/15, Asagwara,
Ken (EAL)
<Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca> wrote:



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PEOPLE .....
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 To:
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 Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 4:13
PM

 


 


 

 


 


 

 


 


 

 


 Leye Ige:

  

 You
asked me, "WHY

 are
you trying to IMPORT your

"republicanism" into

 Yorubaland? Abi our Monarchy is NOT part of
living?

 

  

 My response - You directed your question
to

 the wrong person. I
have never argued that Igbo

 Republicanism should be exported into Yoruba
land.
Your

 Yoruba Monarchy is part of living in
Yoruba

 cosmology and I
have no problem with that. I have
always

 stated that the firewood
in a peoples environment
cooks

 their food for them. To
each, accordingly.


  

 Let the Igbo live
with their Republicanism,


 wherever they are and let the Yorubas abide by their

 Monarchism, wherever they
are. That is the essence of
Igbo

 cosmology mantra of
"Live & Let Live".

 

  

 Leye Ige, like a good many
others of

 non-Igbo
origin, you have misunderstood and

misinterpreted

 the
concept of "Igbo have no Kings". If I
recall


 correctly, my dear Nwanna Dr. Obi Nwakanma on

 many occasions explained
it to you, readers. Let me
here

 briefly try as he had. The
concept of Igbo have no
Kings

 simply implies that every
Igbo is King in his
household. And

 when it comes to community
affairs, OHA as in

 the
People

 voices hold sway
over any Eze/King. In Igbo land areas

where

 they have
Ezes/Kings, such people function at the

behest of

 OHA, the
People. The Republican


 nature of Igbo society fashioned it that way. Just
like the


 Monarchical nature

 of
the Yoruba cosmology gives the Kabieysi an

Oracular

 status to the
point that every Yoruba must bow before

him.

 


  


 Leye, our country's multicultural mosaic

 should be a source of
strength and unity rather than

 disunity; them and us.

  


 Cheers.

  

 Mazi KC Prince Asagwara


  


 -----Original Message-----

 

 

 From:
africanw...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:africanw...@googlegroups.com]

 

 

 

 Sent: November-17-15 6:08
PM

 


 


 To: 'NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com';

 'Imperial'; naija...@googlegroups.com

 

 

 Cc:
''Joe Igbokwe' via

AfricanWorldForum';


 'naija...@googlegroups.com';
'JEROME

 NIANG';
'daniel Akusobi';


 'daku...@icloud.com'; 'Develop
Nigeria';

 'Fubara David-West'; 'Dr. KC
Prince

 Asagwara';
'afis 'Deinde'; 'QS

QS';

 'Mohamed
Warsama'; 'Truth As My

Weapon';


 'African Subject: [africanworldforum] RE: IGBO
PEOPLE


 ..... HATE, HATE, HATE ..... WHY IS YOUR IGBO TRIBE SO
HATED


 EVERYWHERE? [1 Attachment]

  


 "My brother Imperial, please

 chill and let us all live by the Igbo
cosmology
mantra;

 “Live & Let Live.” Is that too much
to

 ask?"--Mazi
Prince K.C Asagwara


  

  

 Mazi Prince K.C

 Asagwara,


 IF the Igbo cosmology mantra is

 "Live and Let
live" WHY are you trying to
IMPORT

 your
"republicanism" into Yorubaland? Abi
our


 Monarchy is NOT part of living? And WHY do you want
to


 create

 your own
traditional eze titles when you had stated

you have

 no kings?
This(and more) leads to questioning the

TRUTH

 about your
"cosmology


 mantra".

 Leye
Ige


 --------------------------------------------

 On Tue, 11/17/15,
Asagwara, Ken

 (EAL)
<Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca>


 wrote:

  

 
Subject: RE: ||NaijaObserver||

 Re: [africanworldforum] Re: IGBO PEOPLE
..... HATE,
HATE,

 HATE ..... WHY IS YOUR IGBO TRIBE SO HATED
EVERYWHERE?
[1

 Attachment]

  To:


 "'NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com'"
<NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com>,


 "'Imperial'"
<imperi...@yahoo.com>


  Cc: "''Joe

 Igbokwe' via
AfricanWorldForum'"
<africanw...@googlegroups.com>,

 Agbaye lukor...@gmail.com

 [NewnaijaPolitics]'"
<newnaija...@yahoogroups.com>,

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Igirigi'"
<pach...@yahoo.com>,


 "'N. H. Ibanga'"

 <iban...@gmail.com>


  Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2015,

 7:00 PM


  

 
Imperial:

    

 

 Please, may you know  this


 much. I have never felt alienated as a
Nigerian.
Neither has

 there ever been a time my support for a
united Nigeria
waned

 since the Nigeria/Biafra War ended  in
1970;

 not even amidst
undeserved provocations against
my 

 folks, the Igbo from some
conscienceless fellow


 Nigerians.

  

    

 

  All
that I and most Ndi-Igbo have

 always prayed for is that equity prevail
in  the

 treatment of
every sections, regions and ethnic

 nationalities of Nigeria. That way then, we
all can

 sing 

 One Nigeria forever. But
in the absence of equity
of 

 treatment and the
marginalization of Ndi-Igbo, you
are 

 likely to hear some
discordant tunes on the Igbo
question

 in  one Nigeria. Isn’t
that fair enough? 

 

    

 

 
Personally, I am a Founder and

 past President of a Nigerian Association
that 
has

 lasted for more than thirty years. And not
just as
Founder

 and former President; I served the 
Association

 in the
capacities of Secretary-General, Social 


 Secretary and PRO. I also, Chaired the
Committee in

 the 
authoring of the Association’s

Constitution. I

 remain
the  best MC the Association ever had to

host

 its Annual Xmas
gatherings as well as, our 

 Independence

 Day  celebrations. 

    


 

  Like many other
Nigerians, the

 billions
of dollar Diaspora Igbo remit home  on

annual

 basis, are they
not for the development of Nigeria?
My

 brother Imperial, please
chill and let us  all


 live by the Igbo cosmology mantra; “Live &
Let 


 Live.” Is that too much to ask?

    


 

  Cheers.

    

 

  Mazi
KC

 Prince

  Asagwara

    

 

  

  

  From: NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com

  [mailto:NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com]

  

  

 
Sent: November-17-15 4:19


 PM

  

  To: Asagwara, Ken

 (EAL)

  

  Cc:
NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com;

 'Joe  Igbokwe'
via
AfricanWorldForum;  naija...@googlegroups.com;

 JEROME NIANG; daniel
Akusobi; 
daku...@icloud.com;

 Develop Nigeria; Fubara David-West; Dr.

  KC Prince Asagwara;
afis

 'Deinde; QS
QS; Mohamed 


 Warsama;

   Truth As
My Weapon; African


 Views; Wilson Iguade;


  Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver||

 Re:

 
[africanworldforum] Re: IGBO

 PEOPLE ..... HATE, HATE, HATE  ..... WHY IS
YOUR
IGBO

 TRIBE SO HATED EVERYWHERE? [1 
Attachment]

 

  

  [Attachment(s)

 from

 
Imperial included


 below]

  

  

  Ken,  


 

  


  It's the vituperations of

 some Igbo guys that made
me refer to Yoruba as your

 hosts  in Lagos . To me Nigeria belongs to
all
but when

 you guys  keep wailing and gnashing teeth
for no

 reason,

 our best bet  is to
express ourselves clearer


 in

 a language that
everyone

 understands
. 

  

  If the use of the word
"

 host" is
what makes you feel alienated, I
am 

 willing to withdraw it my
dear brother in exchange
for

 you  giving support to
one Nigeria .  

 

  

   On 17 Nov 2015, at 22:54,

 Asagwara, Ken (EAL) <Ken.As...@gov.mb.ca>


  wrote:

  

 
“As we speak, about 35- 40% of

 new housing estates springing up in Lagos
area are
owned by

 Igbo companies meaning that the Igbos in
Lagos
don't

 have  problems with their Yoruba
hosts.”

 Imperial 

  

  

  And
in yours above underlined is

 where the trouble with Nigeria 
“makpus”.
 

 

  

  Someone is my host in my
own

 country that you
are proud to call  One United
Nigeria

 and you can’t see how
seriously  flawed that
position

 is. Not even the many
years you lived  in the
USA

 as a student and resident
did any other
American 


 (white, black or Latino) describe you as
their guest

 and  they,
your host unless, the times you
perhaps,

 visited each other’s
residence. 

 

  

 This is what being one’s host

 entails. When I visit your
place of  residence, I
am


 your guest and you, my host. Likewise,
when  you
visit

 my place of residence, I play host to you
and you
are,

 my guest. It is very unpatriotic, rude
and 
insulting

 to see or regard fellow citizen(s) of the
country  you

 both own and call home, your guest and you
his/her

 host. 

  

  Cheers. 

 

  

  Mazi KC Prince

 Asagwara


  


  

  

  From: Imperial [mailto:imperi...@yahoo.com]

  

  

 
Sent: November-17-15 7:11


 AM

  

  To: NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com

  

  Cc: 'Joe Igbokwe' via

 AfricanWorldForum;  naija...@googlegroups.com;

 JEROME NIANG; daniel 
Akusobi; 
daku...@icloud.com;

 Develop Nigeria; Fubara David-West;  Dr.
KC
Prince

 Asagwara; afis 'Deinde; QS QS; Today; 
World
Igbo

 Congress; Egbe; Odua; Ezeana Igirigi; N.

 H.

  Ibanga


  

  Subject: Re:
||NaijaObserver||


 Re:

 
[africanworldforum] Re: IGBO

 PEOPLE ..... HATE, HATE, HATE  ..... WHY IS
YOUR
IGBO

 TRIBE SO HATED EVERYWHERE?  

  

  Pa Chief Ezeana,   

 

  

  

  You aren't on the ground

 here; you live in the
United States but Joe 
Igbokwe

 lives here in Lagos,
Nigeria . Igbokwe and
several 

 millions of peaceful Igbo
people living in non


 Igbo

   parts in
Nigeria think

 alike on
this issue and I guess none  of them

has

 complained that he
is being  maltreated by our

 government because he came from a particular
ethnic

 group. 

  

  As we speak, about 35- 40% of new

 housing estates springing
up in Lagos  area are
owned

 by Igbo companies meaning
that the Igbos in 
Lagos


 don't have problems with their
Yoruba

 hosts.

   Igbos in Nigeria say
they

 don't have
problems with  other Nigerians but
you

 guys living in America and
Europe  keep crying
wolf


 where there's none . Are you
overseas  based
guys

 working for

 the collective interest of the Igbo  race
or just
like

 to create another crisis


  


 Am sure your entire position or

 argument would be different if you have a 
little
stake

 in the system . 

  


  

  

  

  On 17 Nov 2015, at 12:35, Philip

 Achusim pach...@yahoo.com 

 [NaijaObserver] <NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com>

 wrote: 


  

 
This is absurd and an admission

 of failure by the two of you. What were
you
doing  when

 others were creating 100 million haters? You
could

 have  been
creating 101 million lovers of Igbo.
I

 wonder why you  failed?
Guess why you


 failed?

 Because no
one is creating


 enemies. The enemies are there.

 


 Period. 

  

  Ezeana


  Achusim

  


  

  Odi-Isaa

  

  

  Nwa
Dim

 Orioha

  AKA OnyeUkwu

 

  

 
Sent from

  Yahoo Mail
for

 iPhone

  On Tuesday,

 November


  17, 2015, 4:48 AM, Joseph

 Onuorah


  nnam...@yahoo.com

  [NaijaObserver]
<NaijaO...@yahoogroups.com>

  wrote: 


 


  

  Sad but a true
trend!  This

 ugly
trend must be  stopped now else we are

marring the

 future of
our current  and future generations and

that

 may be as bad as
what  slavery did to us! 

 

  

  Joe

  


  

   On Tuesday,

 November


  17, 2015, 4:36 AM, 'Joe

 Igbokwe' via

  AfricanWorldForum
<africanw...@googlegroups.com>

  wrote:


  


  

  These economic
refugees from who

 sit
comfortably outside Nigeria to throw  stones
should


 know that they have created 100 million  enemies
for


 NDIGBO in Nigeria. It is that bad. 

 

  

  

  Joe igbokwe

  


  

  

  On Nov 16, 2015, at 10:07
PM,

 'Alen
Ighedosa' via  NaijaEvent
<naija...@googlegroups.com>

  wrote: 


 


  

  Folks:

  

  This is all about propaganda. Let

 us back-track a little bit
to 1970,  when
General


 Effiong surrendered and the Biafra war
(officially)
ended.

 Reconciliation and rehabilitation 
started

 immediately.

 The atmosphere was like
that of families that were

 (forcefully) separated  and happily
reuniting.
There

 were tears of joy and  happiness.
Boyfriends and


 girlfriends alike were busy  searching for their

 loved-ones, etc, I 
recall. 

  

  Ironically, I left
Nigeria for

 the USA,
August of 1974. There were about 12 Nigerians
who


 arrived at the same school as freshmen. We  met
about


 four other Nigerians at the school. Of all the 

 bunch, only four of us
were non-Igbos and from Bendel
State.

 You know the  surprise?
We all lived like a big


 family!!!! In fact we  lived a communal life. I
must


 admit that those were my  happiest days in the
USA!


 Tribal lines never existed,  believe it or

 not. Furthermore, most of
us became confidants and
retained

 those bonds  to-date.

  

  An interesting observation that

 struck most of us freshmen
was  that the Igbos
who were

 in the USA during the war
were (actually) still at
war

 mentally, even though the
war had  ended four


 years earlier and reconciliation was in full gears
back


 home. I recall how we made mockery  of the
(older)


 Igbos who were here during the war. We would 
tell them


 that they were way behind time in terms of 

 developments back home. 


  


  Summarily, Igbos in the diaspora

 are the ones responsible
for all these 
propaganda and

 instigative incitements.
They know how to  ignite
a

 tribal war as they hide in
their comfort-zones
in 


 the USA and Europe, running their big
mouths, while
the poor

 Igbo young-men are getting  slaughtered
back
home. What

 do you think? Cheers and peace.   

 

  


  

  

 

 Alenbaluye(Alen)

  Ighedosa

  


  

 


 


 



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[Afis Deinde]

[Thomas]

Bravo Olusegun! Your article is wonderfully written and has informed me a lot about Lagos politics.
 

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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Tinubu, Fashola, Ambode and Nigeria, By Olusegun Adeniyi
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 01:25:54 -0500
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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:16 PM, News Express <newsexpre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sometime in 2006 (I cannot recollect the exact date or month), some selected editors were invited to a suite in Eko Holiday Inn to have a parley with the then Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. As the then editor of THISDAY, I was also invited. Even though the reason for the invitation was not stated by Tinubu’s Information and Strategy... Click on the following link to read the complete story http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=17561.

[Joe Attueyi]

With Buhari, I prefer to act behind the scene: Bakare
Nov 20 2015 -

Tunde Bakare, Senior Pastor of Latter Rain Church, apart from his passion for the unity and holiness in the Body of Christ, is highly concerned about the goings-on in the polity. He recently granted TheNEWS an interview in Lagos. In that chat with ADEMOLA ADEGBAMIGBE, DAVID ODEY, LANRE BABALOLA, FEMI ANJORIN, he spoke on the state of the nation and even spared some moments to speak on the longevity of his mother, now 106 years old.

Q: Over time, your relationship with President Muhammadu Buhari, even before he became president, has continued to wax stronger after your failed presidential bid in 2011. Why is it so?
A: Well, in life certain things are matters of destiny. One of the things God spoke in his word in the book of Genesis after He created everything, is that it was good. He knew and in the interim he said it was very good, but one day God said it is not good for man to be alone. No matter who you are, you will need somebody. God had made the world and us people in such a way that whether going up or coming down in life, you will be responsible for it. So people around you can either aid you to climb higher or they can force you to come down. That is why the Bible says, a righteous man chooses his friends wisely because the companion of fools mislead them.
In the fullness of time, when it pleased God, the path of General Buhari and I crossed in 2007 and we soon found out that we both have a lot in common. He is older and I respect him and has been at it longer than I am in the issue of nation building. I remember when we finished the Kaduna flag-off in 2011, I told him a story, I said, “General, we just finished,” he came into his living room and was about removing his shoes and he exclaimed “Jesus Christ!” And I was taken aback. He was like “Pastor, you don’t have monopoly of Jesus Christ”. I laughed and then I said to him, when I saw the crowd (and you really needed to be there that day), I said we shook the city and I told him the story of an ant that came on the back of an elephant because the ant could not go through the bridge without getting swept away by the flood that has hit the bridge, but it climb on the back of the elephant and crossed over to the other side and while they were crossing, the bridge was shaking and the ant said to the elephant after they crossed the bridge: “We shook the bridge”.
So our paths crossed, and I regard him as an elephant in political matters but this little ant (Bakare) has something to offer too and I choose not to barge in, I think that has caused our relationship to wax stronger.
Q: What is your assessment of his administration so far?
A: I think, if I may use the word ‘inherited’ because it is not like a family affair like you inherit your father but because government is a continuum, you must have inherited a terrible mess, and to clean the house takes the time you have seen to even bring some sanity into the house. The Bible says in Ecclesiastics 11, when a tree falls on a tree, where the tree falls it stands. The Yoruba man says when a tree falls on a tree, you start removing it from the top, because if you try removing it from the ground, you break your back. It will be too heavy. Systematically, they have been trying to remove the rot because there was a syndicate of rot in the country, as we are beginning to find out. So, my assessment is yes, the administration might appear to be slow but slow and steady wins the race.
Q: A lot of people see you as a power broker in this present dispensation…
A: what is your definition of power broker? You will educate me.
Q: That you have a hand in the nomination of some of the ministerial nominees; that you participated in picking who would be minister in the present government…
A: That is your definition of a power broker and I did not. I did not broker anything for myself.
Q: They said you have a hand in the nomination of Fayemi and Fashola
A: That question should be directed to those who said I have a hand, it should be directed to them, not me. The president himself on the 1st of October did say to the nation, “after due consultation with the vice president and the party leadership”, and if he said that, he meant it. I do not hold any post in the party and I am not the vice president by the grace of God. Do you understand me? If anybody has a hand anywhere it should be directed to those he mentioned or else I will be violating a norm. I learnt from one of the icons of the evangelical mission in the world today, Billy Graham, he says whenever God gives you access to men in authority, what they share with you or what you share with them is not for public consumption. But I will be honest with you, as far as those bothering themselves whether I have a hand or not, my two hands are up here. The question to ask is, does Fashola merit to be appointed, does Fayemi merit being appointed? You can see for yourself whether those people had contributed to his emergence as a president of Nigeria today and if they deserve being given that opportunity to continue to serve. Anybody can put a hand in anything, if it is rubbish, President Buhari will not take it.
Q: As a follow up to that, some really think you are supposed to be one of the nominees…
A: Those who think that way should mind their own business.
Q: There is also a follow-up to that follow-up, that you ought to play a role in this administration given your closeness to the government. I mean President Buhari and your concern for the wellbeing of this country…
A: Those who know me very well know that I believe very strongly that good leaders don’t need title, or occupy any office to contribute their quota to nation building. Leaders focus on functionality. Am I being able to contribute my quota from behind the scenes, or am I being able to contribute my quota in the frontlines? You don’t need a title to be a leader, you don’t need the paraphernalia of office to contribute your quota. As far as I am concerned, deep rivers flow with majestic silence. I will continue doing what am doing for the advancement of this nation whether now or in future in the way I have chosen to serve. Do you know God’s signature is upon the ocean but you can’t see it? The great Everest, Mt Kilimanjaro, when you see them, you don’t see his photograph on them. (The Yoruba say “Oba ta ori, tan ri ise owo re) the visible things illustrate the attributes of an invisible God. I prefer to be like my maker to just act out good things so that they don’t grow stale. Time will tell.

Do you know God’s signature is upon the ocean but you can’t see it? The great Everest, Mt Kilimanjaro, when you see them, you don’t see his photograph on them. (The Yoruba say “Oba ta ori, tan ri ise owo re) the visible things illustrate the attributes of an invisible God. I prefer to be like my maker to just act out good things so that they don’t grow stale. Time will tell.

Q: When we look at the president before he came to power and when he was to contest, one of his cardinal programmes was to fight corruption and when he got to office he started fighting corruption. But the way he is fighting corruption, some people have been criticizing him. What is your take on this?
A: Well, Nigeria is a very complex society. Complex in the sense of administration. It is difficult to administer a multi-faceted nation like Nigeria. You can’t please everybody. I will share a story with you. Moses prayed in Deuteronomy chapter 1, and said May God multiply you a thousand times more. These are more than 600,000 able men minus women and children. He said May God multiply you a thousand times more, so population is not the problem. When I say it’s complex, am not talking about population because India is bigger, far bigger. What is the problem? Moses said “I alone cannot bear your complaints, your problems and your burden”. At Latter Rain Assembly for example, our leadership structure focuses on ensuring that complaints are dealt with within 72 hours max, because complaints that are not looked into become problems and problems not solved will become burden and when they become burden, they are much more difficult to solve. So, if he is fighting corruption, he alone cannot fight it. He is not the EFCC or ICPC chairman, he is not the Inspector General of Police; he is not the Director General of parastatals or permanent secretary. To put paid to the corruptive tendencies in our nation requires a change of heart by every Nigerian, especially those who are benefitting from the proceeds of corruption.
Again corruption is not something you define as kickbacks. No. From Genesis chapter 6, wherever you see corruption, you see violence. The real corrupt men are stinkingly wealthy and they are amassing that wealth on daily basis to cause confusion, unfortunately the little girl that becomes a parcel bomb carrier is not the real problem, somebody wired her up. And if you are going to tackle corruption at the root level, you need to go to the root causes of the problem and unlock the taps in those places or disconnect their power base and to do that requires much more than propaganda, not just talking loud and accomplishing nothing. So, whether he is winning or not winning, almost all the western powers agreed that Nigeria deserves help and they are coming in left, right and centre to help us, not only to deal with Boko Haram but to help and assist in our fight against corruption.
I was by God’s grace, on the good will of Mr President, part of the delegation to Washington and the first meeting we had was with the late Ambassador Adefuye of blessed memory and, Madam Secretary, Madeline Albright. I said Nigeria does not need a dime from America, what Nigeria needs now is for America to help us with the kind of enforcement or legislation they have in America. That no American citizen anywhere in the world can put money in any bank anywhere in the world, which that bank will not report back to the American system. They know they have the loot of corrupt men and women, probably children who have been influenced by the corrupt tendencies of their parents, of hiding that stolen wealth. So we asked them to help Nigeria in those areas; to put prosecution before restitution because when judgement is not speedily executed the hearts of men are set to do evil.
Why there is no widespread corruption in America as we see in our country is there is a system put in place to detect it early. How can NNPC have 45 bank accounts? Who traces what? With the TSA (Treasury Single Account) you discover trillions that have been mopped up in few months from money that is somewhere that they find a way of dispensing anyhow. So let us fight this war intelligently. I think that is what Mr President is saying and in a way the just will not be villified because not all Nigerians are corrupt and not all those that pass through government are corrupt men. Now rotten apple is enough to destroy a carton of apples, but let’s separate the chicken from the pigeons.
Bakare:

Bakare:
So I think he is determined to fight this. In the first place, we put restitution before prosecution, therefore we just drop money and give a slap on the wrist of those who are ruining the nation, sending them to a seven-star hospital to spend their jail term. They call it plea bargain – just get some money and go away. If I have stolen N40 billion and you were able to get N30 billion, I live on the remaining ten and still use the ten to invest times two and still punish you if I can by ensuring that crooked men are there. First and foremost there should be prosecution and then restitution follows and then everyone will line up and say “oh there are consequences for your actions. When chances present themselves and you make your choices, be ready for the consequences. That is the hallmark, in my opinion, of where President Buhari stands.
Q: Some people have taken the ethical question further by saying people have stolen, if you have stolen, don’t take our money out, invest it here, so that people will enjoy it, people will get employment. What is your reaction to this?
A: That is not ethics. That is language of the syndicate of rot. It is annoying, so you can steal it and invest it here, what does that mean? Whether you take it abroad or you keep it here, you are a thief. You should be treated like a common criminal. I am sorry.
Q: Let’s take a look at the ministers. Many Nigerians are complaining that they voted for change and now many of them are old politicians – recycled. They are asking, this is not the change we voted for and Mr President is taking them back.
A: Give me examples..
Q: Audu Ogbeh was a minister in Shagari’s government
A: Audu Ogbeh was a minister, former chairman of PDP. Look, Moses was 40 years old when he killed an Egyptian. At the age of 80, God came to him and said you are still my man for the job. At the age of 40, Caleb alongside Joshua were sent with 10 others to spy the land. Ten brought evil report, 2 brought good report. My mother gave birth to me, I gave birth to my daughter. My mother was 106 on October 28. Before my daughter got married, she had to go back to her grandmother to get blessing. It is called trans-generational impact. It is not recycled or old hand that is the issue. The queen of England has been in power since when? She is the longest reigning monarch in history of monarchy in Britain. The issue is not about old hands or whether he’s been there or not. I am not saying that we should not try young hands, but we should look for those who have been tested and rugged and who have this anti-corruption inclination. A new broom sweeps clean but an old broom knows where to go. So, we need a combination of both.

The queen of England has been in power since when? She is the longest reigning monarch in history of monarchy in Britain. The issue is not about old hands or whether he’s been there or not. I am not saying that we should not try young hands, but we should look for those who have been tested and rugged and who have this anti-corruption inclination. A new broom sweeps clean but an old broom knows where to go. So, we need a combination of both.

The Yoruba say the young and the old combined is a wisdom that has great effect The young man’s hand cannot reach the roof of the tent but the old man’s hand is too big to go through the palmwine gourd. So, you need where the young can go and the old can go. The collaborative effort of both is what will make Nigeria a great nation. As God said, “in the last days I will pour my spirit upon flesh – your young men shall see vision, your old men shall dream dreams.” Visions represent foresight, dreams represent insight. To bring stability to any nation is when insight stabilises foresight. You need both, but if you say any of them that has been chosen is corrupt, then you cannot use corrupt men to fight corruption. But if it is in the realm of allegation let it stay there. Once it is proven, I know what President General Buhari will say.
Q: What are the pitfalls or banana peels President Buhari should avoid to succeed?
A: You mentioned a word, banana peels. That’s a word used by the late Professor Abiola Ojo. He said that “this Supreme Court was standing on a banana peel, so it took a somersault.” He said this during a court case many years ago. President Buhari is not a new kid on the block, you cannot put him in the same class of those who just started yesterday and were lucky to be in government. For him, it has been a dogged process, like three, four cycles of election in Nigeria before he became the president. He started, if my memory if serves me right, since 2003, 2007, 2011, he actually stood publicly and said “No more!” Until by God’s grace, some of us put pressure on him and said “you cannot say no more”, never say never because you never can tell.
Like Abraham Lincoln, one more try could change the whole thing and thank God, that which we thought too has come to pass; those who think he carried something that could bring genuine change to the country. Someone asked a question, “is it the change we need?” When a caterpillar is in a cacoon, there is a lot of shaking, if you stop that process, it will never become a buttefly. So change is not immediate release of funds, stock fish like in the days of General Gowon who said Nigeria’s problem was not money but how to spend it and I know he meant well, even him because he was not corrupt. We didn’t see any money that he stole. We need to re-lay the foundation. To raise the foundation for many generations, we have to do it right but let me come back to the issue you raised – pitfalls, he is not a new kid on the block.

The Yoruba say the young and the old combined is a wisdom that has great effect The young man’s hand cannot reach the roof of the tent but the old man’s hand is too big to go through the palmwine gourd. So, you need where the young can go and the old can go. The collaborative effort of both is what will make Nigeria a great nation. As God said, “in the last days I will pour my spirit upon flesh – your young men shall see vision, your old men shall dream dreams.”

If he has gone through four electoral cycles, he was military governor in the north eastern states where there is crisis is now, north east is making Nigeria a banana republic, so that’s part of his heritage or his legacy, he was Federal Commissioner for Petroleum which we now call Minister of Petroleum before he became head of state. So does that man really need my counsel? He knows exactly what to do because he has been there for a long time. If I am put on the spot to say something to him, I will tell him “rememeber, what takes you to the top must sustain you there because there must be a reason why you have been pursuing this. Now that you have laid hold of it, regardless of whose ox is gored, keep your eyes on the ball because when you keep on doing what is right, what is wrong will leave you alone.”
Q: There is a security problem that Nigeria doesn’t seem to really tackle headlong now. It is the Fulani herdsmen. Recently Chief Olu Falae was kidnapped, after his release, his farm was also ravaged by Fulani herdsmen, it went to the extent that Yoruba elders said Fulani people should be banned from the southwest? How can this menace be tackled?
A: I thank you very much. I was invited to the meeting billed to address the issue but I couldn’t make it. It is a very sad day when the purpose of government is violated right before us. It is something I think is lost on the part of the governed and those who are governing. And what I think is lost is the purpose of government. The primary purpose of government is the security and welfare of the citizens. Now, let me digress a little because one can be emotional about what has happened to a respected elder statesman like Chief Falae who, on his 77th birthday, was captured like a common criminal. I don’t want to use the word peasant, he has served this country as secretary to the federal government, he has been a former MD/CEO of a bank in this nation after years of civil service as permanent secretary and then he was a presidential candidate. If what happened to him, happened to the green tree then what do you think is happening to dry trees?
I think the Chief Falae phenomenon, the attack on his person has given us a magnifying lens to see the problem the ordinary citizens who were raped, maimed had faced in time past and Chief Falae incident is bringing it to the fore, and it is catching attention now. According to Shakespeare, “When beggars die, there is no comet seen, but the heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes”. I think the near death experience of Chief Falae has now put the whole thing in the front burner because the president dispatched the IG immediately. I want to see a nation where attention is paid to every citizen’s security. Today it is the Fulani menace, and if we want to destroy ourselves, let us begin to fan the embers of ethnicity, or revenge and or retaliation. Vengeance has no foresight.

“Why would I attack Asiwaju? Talking of politics, he has paid his dues. People were not there when I preached the message and that really celebrated Tinubu. That he single handedly fought the PDP to a standstill in the southwest. I sent him the tape. Do you understand me? Again this is our society, the moment you focus on issues, they reduce it to personalities. May I ask you the question maybe that would throw light on areas that you call criticisms by those who do not know the difference between critique and a negative comment.”

I read the communiqué of the Yoruba leaders, they are not asking for revenge, they are only saying, in a nation where their people cannot fulfill their aspiration, it is time to renegotiate our being together as a nation and nobody will fault that reasoning. For years, the Igbos felt left out and MASSOB is still there till tomorrow, for years the Ogoni land pollution that eventually led to the unwarranted killing of Ken Saro-Wiwa and all the things that had happened in South-South led to all the Niger Delta militancy. There is a perversion of protecting the rich while not providing for the poor. A society that cannot provide for the poor cannot protect the rich. This has eventually led to what you call Boko Haram. At the beginning, they were attacking the police stations, but some other people had hijacked it now and they are telling people you don’t know where the next bomb is going to explode anymore even in the federal capital, I think time has come for us to know that to put a stop to all these menace is to sit down together and begin strategic thinking to renegotiate our peaceful coexistence.

Except Nigeria is restructured, the future is filled with retrogressive forces, you can hardly see any predictable progress. I am a firm believer that true federalism is the key to our national dilemma, that was why when I chose to run alongside General Buhari in 2011, the first promise, manifesto was restructuring Nigeria along true federalism. I think this is what this is calling for. Let us give Mr President time. There is no way we will not get there one day. We will have to get there because we feel we may be sitting on a time bomb.

Bakare Photo Credit: Idowu Ogunleye

Bakare
Photo Credit: Idowu Ogunleye
Except Nigeria is restructured, the future is filled with retrogressive forces, you can hardly see any predictable progress. I am a firm believer that true federalism is the key to our national dilemma, that was why when I chose to run alongside General Buhari in 2011, the first promise, manifesto was restructuring Nigeria along true federalism. I think this is what this is calling for. Let us give Mr President time. There is no way we will not get there one day. We will have to get there because we feel we may be sitting on a time bomb.
Q: There is this insinuation that President Buhari is not disposed to implementing the confab report and you participated in that …
A: Where did he say so?
Q: I mean that is the feeling out there, Arewa Consultative Forum, ACF, has already said he should not implement it, they came up with a statement. Nigerians want the report to be implemented because every part of the country was represented at the Cofab. So how come we are hearing this kind of depressing information that he will not implement it?
A: Well you said, a general feeling. No matter the feelings, he has not said so anywhere, the only remark he made privately and publicly that I am aware of is at that time they could not pay teachers, teachers were on strike, why did you have to devote N7 billon to paying for this kind of conference that normally elected officers could have looked into? If you have assembled them, a team of experts, and said these are areas that need restructuring, and if Mr President was very sincere for bringing this conference, why did he not implement some of it? Why? Do you understand me? When the conference report was being handed over to former President Goodluck Jonathan, if you were around me, you could see I was crying like a baby. I was in tears because I saw the future of Nigeria at a flash. That this is my biggest solution to the problems we were having but it will take trustful give and take. No one, there is nothing in the entire report that was not unanimously agreed to by delegates from North, South, East and West.
There was no single decision that we voted for and some people turned around to say they disagreed. I believe in Nigeria with all my heart but a lopsided Nigeria will do us no good. There is over concentration of power in the centre today and those things must be corrected for us to make progress and what we are practicing is called ‘federal paramountcy’ or ‘paramount federalism’. It is not going to augur well for this nation. Governments at local, state, federal levels must come to terms with how we have to govern ourselves and we that the centre is consuming money that is meant for development and that’s why no matter how long it takes, we will get there one day and restructure our country from the ravages of unitarism brought in by the military. This is not what the founding fathers negotiated.
Q: Let’s go to the economy. The country’s economy is in dire straits. How do you think we should go about tackling the economic problems in this country?
A: I hope by no economic blueprint you are not merely reducing the whole issue of monetary and economic policy to the journalistic pedestal language of dividends of democracy because there is more to it than meets the eye. No man, or head of family, parastatals, organization should be speculative in spending, no one should spend what he does not have. Our situation is so pathetic, for example, that our recurrent expenditure in the country is 70 percent. It is a shame. Where would the money come from for infrastructural development? We need a lean government. I heard some of the Senators quoting the constitution, that it is incumbent, mandatory upon the president to choose at least one minister from each state of the federation, and we have 36 states. Did we have 36 states in 1960? There was only one minister of education in the whole of the north and now we have 19 states with their commissioners of education,, there was only one minister of education in the whole of the west. Awo was able to spend 57 per cent of his budget on education alone, that gave people the rare opportunity to go to school; I would have died in a carpenter’s shed where I was packaged to go and learn carpentry. I wouldn’t be useful to my family or the nation today but for the foresight of that man that started free education the year I was born. Sixty years have come and gone and generations that benefited from that opened their eyes to begin to multiply unnecessary elite by having 36 commissioners of education minus minister of education and you think we don’t need restructuring our system of government?

“Buhari is a wise man, I know him enough that he will hear from the other side and he loves those who can tell him the truth point blank. He doesn’t have the big and large egos that some of our leaders have. He will listen and learn. If he finds out that you are a wheeler dealer around him, well the doors will be shut against you.”
　

What we have imbibed and embraced since the incursion of the military in 1966 has been extremely wastefulness. Today, not more than four state governments can self- sustain, namely Lagos, Kano, Rivers and perhaps Akwa Ibom. I don’t know of Bayelsa, though an oil-producing state, is yet to construct a simple bridge. You can do three third mainland bridges in Lagos and they cannot provide one bridge over the terrain in Bayelsa. And here we are today, we need to rethink, what we have done over the years is wasteful. You are asking for 36 ministers and Buhari is saying let us harmonise and have 19 ministries. Who made the law that we cannot change it? They imposed this constitution upon us, let us even set down this constitution. Look, even if we are going to follow that to a logical conclusion, show me how a clean man can jump into sewage tank and come out smelling like roses.
Let us think and change the law if we truly desire our nation to progress and we are not even asking you to scrap the states, create more if you need it. Within 6 geo-political zones, let each zone begin to focus on how to maximize the potentials, the resources to develop the 6 geo-political zones in Nigeria and let the centre be less attractive so that we can go back to healthy competition we had during or immediately after independence. Because of the western civilization we had, the resources the Western region used to produce the first television station in Africa before France, came from the proceeds of cocoa and agriculture. The rsources from cocoa also produced the University of Ife; the groundnut pyramids produced the Ahmadu Bello University, palm oil produced what we have or what we call University of Nigeria, Nsukka. The thinker is the enemy of the mob, but we have to think and reshape and renegotiate and restructure our country. If we don’t have restructuring, we have retrogression.
Q: Successive leaders in this country, had a problem or some people create one for them. These are people those who go to tell the leaders what he wants to hear. What is your advice to President Buhari on how to treat people like that?
A: Some of the time when the fireworks of negative comments or attacks come to you, you want to listen to someone who will encourage you also. You see, it takes the two terminals of the battery to make your car work. If you unplug the positive or unplug the negative, your car will not move. Buhari is a wise man, I know him enough that he will hear from the other side and he loves those who can tell him the truth point blank. He doesn’t have the big and large egos that some of our leaders have. He will listen and learn. If he finds out that you are a wheeler dealer around him, well the doors will be shut against you.
Q: You talked about the economy. When you look at power, since President Buhari came into office, we can see some level of sanity in that sector but some people are giving the credit to the past government of Jonathan. Let’s have your view on that…
A: Very simple. I don’t know if you dug into the archives of former Daily Times and saw a Sunday Times report many years ago, of a man who acquired 21 different plots of land and built them halfway to lintel level and did not complete a single one before he died. I read it in the newspaper, he acquired 21 plots of land, for him to secure it, built them to lintel level. What’s the essence of you putting up all the things you need together and not being able to make it function? It wasn’t that those things were not available in the days of Jonathan. All that was needed was a leadership that will make people sit straight and say if you don’t perform you lose your job. That’s all you needed. That’s called leadership. Yes, some of the efforts might have been pulled back, probably he lacked the courage of Buhari, like if you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We need to make things work.
When Nigerians see accurate leadership, when they see someone demonstrating that it can be done, they follow. At Ikeja airport here, you see bigmanism, everybody maneuvering…But do you know that it doesn’t matter who you are when you get to London? You have to queue in an orderly manner. So the problem is not Nigerians, it is systemic failure. If anybody should face the firing squad of public opinions or public criticism it should be Obasanjo. Look at how much he voted on power projects and for us having power, rather we became powerless. The late Yar’Adua will allow all the things brought in by Obasanjo to waste away. It takes a dynamic person to couple all components together. You know it is not only the battery that runs your car, there is a place for the engine, there is a place for even little radiator. There is a place for every one of those things coupled together that makes it work and it requires good leadership to put all the things together and you get good results. So let us say perhaps, Jonathan put the building blocks together but did not know how to, or the men around him, did not know how to make things function very well that the larger society would benefit. They can buy 12 million pounds house overnight.
Q: Is it right for President Buhari to man the petroleum ministry? Because it has been the talks on social media, some say he is supposed to be in charge because of the rot there, some say ‘No’, he should concentrate on governance and allow somebody to be there while he surpervises. How do you react to that?
A: I don’t react because all I see in the Bible is the acts of the apostle. What did you say the Senate said so that I can take it all together?
Q: The Senate said if he is going to be the petroleum minister, he should appear before them for screening…
A: You see sometimes we put the cart before the horse and people say if we put the cart before the horse that there will be no motion. There will be motion but you will be going backwards. Today the mainstay of Nigeria’s economy is still oil but people forgot that for about eight years Obasanjo was Minister of Petroleum in this country and he had no experience of Buhari when it comes to the petroleum industry. Look, it was during Buhari’s time that most of the refineries that they ran down now were built. So when it comes to the industry he knows his onions. And God has helped him to pick from outside someone that could bring some sanity into the system in the person of Ibe Kachikwu. Now should he allow a person like that, who is a technocrat coming from outside, not part of the rot to now be curtailed or contained by political process of frustrating the man who has direct link with the president? Because the ministers have become larger than life like the former minister of petroleum. She changed the group managing directors of NNPC at will; changed them like diapers. She changed at least four group managing directors in quick succession perhaps because they did not toe the line.
The board of NNPC did not meet more than three times under her because she boycotted the board and was taking direct authority from the president and it has brought us to where we are. Buhari says, “look, I have experience in this industry. I want to stop all the wastes. The things that were not working, they are now working, in two years you see the difference, if he continues to apply the same principles and dynamics that are brought in now and I think he is a better minister of petroleum than any other person. He worked side by side with the then petroleum minister when he was head of state.
Don’t think he is a micro manager, that is your fear. He did not even send a single note to Prof Tam David West when he appointed him as petroleum minister. They never met but he is a man who says I will not let the oil industry doom my administration. The looting and stealing that took place there must be curtailed and he wants to focus on that which is major, lest he begins to major in minor and minor in major. So, if I have my way, I won’t say to you more than what I am saying to you now, he will stay there and stablise it until he feels enough system structure and strategy have been built up there that it can now run itself smoothly.
Q: What is your advice to the administration at all the levels – federal and state-on how to tackle infrastructure decay, because our budget is structured in a way that the recurrent expenditure is higher than the capital expenditure, given the nature of the problem in the oil sector across the world.
A: No pain, no gain. It depends on what you want, if you want to focus on infrastructural development, there are some things you have to do right now and begin to point to long term benefits of what you are doing. Our people are willing followers, when they see leadership that shows interest in their future and the future of their children. Look I didn’t get married until I was 30. I was best man seven times for my friends (I used it to acquire suits!). Sometimes they will pull my leg and say, my children will be calling you big uncle and I said don’t worry and one day I faced them and said, you will find out that your children and my children will go to the same school. It is foresight and one day it came to pass. I got married. It is history now, my last child is out of the university. You cannot develop faster than the progress you made in your education sector.
Your capital development is being wasted on daily basis. When government and governance become accountable and you have a seat of governance that prioritises the needs of the citizen and the development of the nation, all these excesses will go. Ghost workers, engaging riff-raffs instead of the best and the brightest will stop. In Britain and America, they go to Ivy League universities to attract people into civil service because that is where policies are formulated but here we just employ anyone, until we change all that we cannot make any progress. We came into a league of the independent nations five years ahead of Singapore. But they are part of the first world today and we are still grappling with the biggest economy in Africa. Ghana took the ‘G’ in our giant, South Africa took the ‘I’ away so you have an ant.
Q: Let’s go to the church, you find many churches establishing educational institutions and now the majority of the children of the members of these churches cannot afford to pay the fees being charged by the institutions. This was not so when the missionaries came. Missionaries brought churches, education to educate everybody without discriminating between the rich and the poor. Now in some of the schools established by these churches many of the children cannot attend because of the high fees. What do say about this?
A: Your question is Catch 22 but I will not dodge it. The education those missionaries provided was subsidized. Education has never been free. It was subsidized by the missionary organization that brought them here or do you think that the books you were reading in those schools were not printed; the blackboard and the chalk used were not purchased? They were subsidized. Going back to mission established, or universities established by mission – Oxford, Cambridge, Emory University for example was established by the Methodist Church. The same Emory University charges $6,000 per month right now. Education is not cheap, let us not throw away the baby with the bath water.
The first thing we need to examine in your question is, do these Christian organizations, build the university or the schools with church funds? Do they go outside of the mission to go borrow money to establish those universities which means they have to pay that back? We need to examine that. I don’t want to judge what I do not fully understand, I don’t have a crèche, I hope to do so once our Citadel is built. We just received the approval. We will be able to have Citadel and perhaps make a difference because I have passion for the poor. The society that does not provide for the poor cannot protect the rich.
But let’s not judge that even members cannot attend those schools, let us also look at the government that has failed in making education a corner stone principle or factor in governance because one will not go to private schools if public schools are good. Chief Obafemi Awolowo’s daughter and Chief Obafemi Awolowo’s driver’s son went to the same school when Awolowo was Premier of Western Region. His driver’s son and daughter Tokunbo Awolowo went to the same school. Something is wrong and the church is part of the society; as the people so are the priest. The shepherd was once upon a time sheep. People deserve the leadership they get and leadership deserve the kind of people that follow them. But do not pass any judgement on Redeemers University as long as they are running accurately or pass judgement on Covenant University, I will say no, at least they gave opportunity to those who have been outside of university because we don’t have enough universities.
There are many people who are qualified today to enter universities but they don’t have space for them, but I know also that indeed if people have obtained mercy, if there are indeed people who came from poverty stricken background, then have mercy upon the poor. During the petrol subsidy crisis (in January 2012) I saw a banner that I will not forget. They lifted it up in Abuja, they lifted it here in Lagos also. You know what was written on it? “One day, the poor will have nothing to eat but the rich”. Our situation right now is that the church cannot continue to exist as an island of security in a quicksand of poverty because when Boko Haram entered churches there was no distinction between those who collected tithes and those who did not, and those who used it for education and those who did not use it for education. So what is our situation in summary, the poor man cannot sleep because he is hungry, the rich man cannot sleep because the poor is still awake.
Q: When we look at the campaign of PMB, we saw Asiwaju Tinubu as his backbone, he played a leading role in the emergence of Buhari as President. Recently in the church, I heard I wasn’t there, that you attacked Jonathan and Tinubu and when I look at your comment on Tinubu, I see that you always attack him, I want to ask, why?
A: Well, you told me you were not there, hearsay evidence are not feasible in court. Since you were not there, I would have asked you to go listen to the tape and come back because sometimes what looks like an attack is truth. Why would I attack Asiwaju? Talking of politics, he has paid his dues. People were not there when I preached the message and that really celebrated Tinubu. That he single handedly fought the PDP to a standstill in the southwest. I sent him the tape. Do you understand me? Again this is our society, the moment you focus on issues, they reduce it to personalities. May I ask you the question maybe that would throw light on areas that you call criticisms by those who do not know the difference between critique and a negative comment. Shall I pray for you that your children will not be greater than you? Will you say amen to that. So if God has used you to facilitate the emergence of someone who now performs better than you, shouldn’t you be happy.
My mother is a happy woman, she didn’t go to school but she sent me. And today she is at peace with herself that she has worked hard and worked well and I give her the honour. You may never meet my mother but you have met the letter she has written to the world. It not a letter written with ink and pen. Do you understand me. I don’t have any problem with Asiwaju. On 3rd of November 2014 I was in Asiwaju’s house and I said to him ‘Asiwaju, there are only four things left that I am pursuing in this world, and none of them is in your hands, my mother is 106, her prayer is that I should survive her and give her a befitting burial. Asiwaju, can you guarantee my being alive to do that?’ he said he can’t. No 2: ‘Asiwaju, I want to stay in health while waiting to give my mother a befitting burial, can any human being guarantee that?’ Nobody. I have five children by the grace of God, I want them to be greater than I am, and I don’t want them to go before me, ‘can you guarantee that?’
And finally I said I want to make heaven at the end, and to hear, ‘good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the Lord your God’ can you guarantee that? he can’t. So why the basis of competition, what I am looking for is not in your hand. Am not looking for power, I am not looking for position, I am not looking for appointment. Can’t you understand that? I have never done contract in my life. So there is no basis for attacking Asiwaju except in the figment of the imagination of some people. But something touched me, and when matters are brought to me, I look at some of them, I take them all, sometimes I don’t bother myself because you must not fight every battle and lose the world.
But parents should be happy that their children are better, I couldn’t go to Emory University, I was a self sponsored student that worked – washing plate at a hotel around University of Lagos. I go there in the night, the lady , the owner of the hotel came to my 40th birthday to testify. I go there in the night to wash plates, she came to testify. I put the money together to educate myself, now my daughter went to Emory, passed through there, I was happy, I was crying and was happy at the same time. We were talking last time, my wife and I, she said nobody gave us a car when we got married. I said we had nobody to do that and now that God has enabled us to be able to do it ourselves, do you understand that? So our children should be greater. The ceiling of our own accomplishments should be their starting point, and we must not pull down our children. No. I stand by my word and will not change it for anybody.
Q: Pastor, have you noticed that CAN President Ayo Oritsejafor has disappeared from the public scene? Nobody hears about him again. This was somebody who was prominent during Jonathan’s administration…
A: Well, prominence is a mtter of perception. Because Pastor Ayo still preaches to the best of my knowledge every Sunday to more than 10,000 people on the television, so maybe he has disappeared from certain areas and he is concentrating on other areas. So disappearance is perception.
Q: He was like a palace prophet. His visibility in Aso Rock then was prominent. People called him palace prophet…
A: It is not wrong to be a palace prophet if you are prophesying what is right. Nathan was a palace prophet, he rebuked David when he commited adultery with Batsheba. What you go to do at the palace is what will be said about you later. It is not wrong for a person to be close to the palace. But you said he was a palace prophet to Jonathan, is Jonathan still in power? Even Jonathan said he was forced out of his enclave because of the death of Mama HID to come and greet the family. So, if the man he was serving is no longer visible, do you expect him to transfer that to Buhari? Remember Buhari is a Muslim, maybe he can be ministering to the VP (Osinbajo).
Q: A few days ago, elder statesman Edwin Clark came out to rebuke former president Jonathan for his weakness, and this is a man who was there, who still has access to Jonathan. What do say about this?
A: I am wary in passing comments on everything I see in the papers, but if indeed that has happened I will consider it as shooting the wounded and I will be quick to restate that failure is an orphan, success has many fathers. You can be a doctor with the brain of a clerk, you will not know when to pass comments and when not to pass one. But I will simply say I won’t expect someone you look up to as a father to disown you publicly because the wisdom of the child is the wisdom of the father and maybe if your son is weak, it is not for you to now highlight and emphasise it. You have forgotten that it is your grace that he manifested because you publicly stood by him and called him your son. I think his first daughter is my in-law, married from Abeokuta, from my mother’s place in Abeokuta. So when I see Dr Clark we will settle the matter as in-law to in-law rather than settling it on the pages of newspaper. But honestly, if it is true, it is a very sad comment.
Q: Kidnapping is very rampant in the country. People are being kidnapped on a daily basis, we also have insurgency and other security challenges. How can our nation overcome all these problems?
A: You know Rome was not built in a day but Rome can be destroyed in a few seconds. Don’t look at the fruits, look at the roots. When you are rootless you are fruitless. They are the byproducts of something deeper, so treat that and you will see that it will begin to wane. But if all you do is to cut the leaves, the fruits, and the roots are still there, it will start again. Even if you cut the branches the tree will start again. You know that I am not suffering from kleptomania, it is not likely I will steal your phone, I have mine, I have colour TV, it is not likely I will come to your house to steal your black and white TV, but what I don’t have and I have done all I could do to have and the system denies me from having it, it will happen like it happened to a church at Idi Araba. Robbers went there and they left a note, after they had removed their TV, airconditioners, and some vital things, they wrote: “We the children of God have come to take away the goods of our father”. So it will happen.
The menace can be stopped when youthful energy is channelled towards a productive enterprise. I happen to be in the real estate industry, those who lay all these tiles, p.o.p. are all from Togo and Ghana. We have destroyed the middle class. Joblessness is not the greatest problem of the Nigerian youth. It is hopelessness. When there is life, there is hope, but when you withdraw hope from a person, and a generation, you have a time bomb in your hand. An idle man’s brain is the devil’s workshop. That’s what it will come to. You have taken hope away from a generation, they will hit back at the society and when it begins to happen even the so-called innocent will suffer. A student in Cambridge came from England and he saw an okada rider snatching the bag of a lady and he said you can’t do that and they shot him dead in front of his father’s house. Do you understand me? That’s what hopelessness does.
Q: Bumi your daughter got married recently, as a father how did you feel giving her out in marriage?
A: It was such a joyful thing because you don’t want your child to remain in your house forever and then you begin to do vigil for husband to come. So in the fullness of time God provided a good and godly man and they are married together. I am happy. They can be far away from me, it doesn’t matter but the grand children that will come out of it, they are mine. So there is no way you can rob me of those grand children. I am waiting for them. I want to spend quality time with them, at least time that I didn’t have to spend with their mother.
Q: How is mama? The last time we came to interview you in 2014, we saw how emotional you were talking about how she suffered to raise you and all that. How is she now at age 106?
A: She has lived a good life. I can call her for you and you can hear her voice loud and clear. She has lived a good life. She was waiting to see Bumi get married and now she is waiting for Bumi to have a child. So we are still at the long haul. I don’t think she is preparing to get out of here quickly but she has said to me: ” you took care of me in my lifetime, your children will do more for you, don’t waste money on expensive funeral for me because it does nothing to me and don’t let it hurt you.” She is the first school I learnt from and I thank God for her influence in my life. I am what I am by the grace of God. I have a disciplined mother and a supportive wife.

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Press Release: Anioma, Not A Part Of Biafra

The attention of Ndi Anioma of Nigeria, the umbrella body covering Anioma people at home and in Diaspora has been drawn to the recent protest associated with a group of people, in the name of Biafra, in which protesters of South East origin are calling for the secession of a separate state of Biafra from Nigeria. 

The purpose of this dissent, they have admitted, also relates to the deserved arrest of a UK-based Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, the man behind the venomous Radio Biafra. Like most observers who followed the nature of Biafra in 1967, Ndi Anioma is of the view that Biafra died permanently in 1970 with the surrender speech made by Philip Effong in which he emphatically stated ‘Biafra ceases to exist’, following Col. Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu’s flee to Ivory Coast.

In spite of this circumstance, a few resentful people of South-East origin who are attempting to exploit a non-existent opportunity to make the present democratic dispensation ungovernable, have keyed into MASSOB’s long-time motive designed to secede their people. Worse still, some people of that region have gone on a wild chase of goose, making diagrammatic representation in an irredentist manner where important territories outside the South-East, including our Anioma have been included in their inventive maps to convince the world on the expansiveness of Biafra and probably for the benefit of oil in Anioma.

These people have made a long journey from their South-East region to Asaba, the Delta State capital, blocking off major roads to give the false impression that the Anioma people have agreed to be part of Biafra. But for posterity, Ndi Anioma must make its position clear thus:

1.    Anioma has never been part of Biafra in history or administration. For record purposes, Anioma was first situated in the Western Region, then Midwestern Region, Bendel State and now Delta State in the South-South. We cannot for any reason afford to be forcefully strong-armed into any region, outside the region within the South-South geographical zone, where it is presently located or any other government outside the Nigerian control now or anytime in future. In order words, we belong to the Federal Republic of Nigeria and no other country.

2.    To buttress the above, our people accompanied Chief Obafemi Awolowo-led delegation of Western and Mid-western leaders to Enugu, in May 6, 1967 just before the outbreak of the civil war to discourage Col. Chukwuemeka Odimegwu-Ojukwu from declaring Biafra because not only did we foresee it as an exercise in futility but because it was certain that it was bound to invite massive loss of lives, properties and sufferings and so it was. This stance of Anioma fathers and people of our region remain the same till date.

3.    There was never a time, place nor venue, the leadership or representatives of the Anioma region, whether the political or traditional council, technocrats, student union nor social-cultural organization of Anioma extraction met and agreed to enter into any form of alliance with the people of the South-East or any region in existence, whether within or outside Nigeria to belong to or actualize a separate state of Biafra.

Henceforward, the representation of Anioma in different maps of Biafra does not and cannot amount to Anioma being part of Biafra. That can only be in the figment of the imagination of desperate irredentist adventurers who creatively made such maps to satisfy their thirst for empire-building. They may make Anioma to exist in their maps, but the world must note that it does not have our consent as we reject that tag, vehemently.

4.    The Anioma nation challenges pro-Biafra advocates to provide any evidence or agreement in which Anioma leaders allied with them to secede from Nigeria and become part of Biafra for the entire world to see.

5.    Pro-Biafra groups should understand that barricading our roads and shutting down socio-economic activities in our region cannot earn them our backing nor patronage, the reason we appeal to them to leave our people out of their struggle and concentrate efforts in the South-East where their agitation has not even received a nod from Ndigbo.

6.    Asaba remains the capital of Delta State and Delta State remains one of the 36 states of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

7.    It is most irrational that pro-Biafrans who claim to fight for their freedom should invade our land and deny us freedom of movement, freedom of association and the right to engage in socio-economic activities thereby subjecting our people to hardships and sorrows. That is an overt attempt to make our people their slaves overnight. We will not tolerate any further infringement into our region. The River Niger is a natural boundary they must respect.


8.    Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is not familiar to the Anioma region and we cannot remember any contribution he has rendered towards the growth and development of our region. We cannot also remember him attending a mere social function of the Anioma people as to warrant our people to die for him. Frequent announcement that Anioma is part of Biafra on Radio Biafra is far from being a favour because we are not prepared to be dragged into any situation that may threaten the territorial integrity of Nigeria nor to prosecute any war. Anioma is Anioma, not Biafra!

The case of Nnamdi Kanu, is one in a million examples that once again compels us to wonder why we should always be remembered in times of their selfish needs. They had better understand that we are not their Messiah as we also have our own challenges bordering on marginalisation to deal with. So do other ethnic groups in the country. But we have not threatened to burn down our nation.

48 years ago, the reckless drive into Anioma territory by Biafrans led to the Anioma genocide  in which several Anioma people were massacred in Asaba, Ibusa, Igbodo, Ogwashi-Uku, Otulu and Isheagu of the former Asaba Division. To keep silent on this current incursion into Anioma territory can only demonstrate that Anioma people have learnt nothing from their past. Memories of that war in which our people lost everything is still living with us. We remember with horror, during the Civil war how fleeing  Biafrans destroyed the River Niger bridge, leaving our people to face the rampaging federal troop, resulting in near annihilation of our people. If the people of the South-East require any alliance with our people, such alliance should be rested on the development of the Anioma area within the confine of Nigeria and not a confederation to prosecute a war against the Nigerian state.

In conclusion, we advise those in the  South-East who are agitating for a dead cause on the following: 1.    Any attempt to secede will result in a war which will not only shatter their region but will definitely make the 1967-1970, a child’s play
2.    The challenges of the people such as complaint of marginalization and poor state of federal roads are real but it is not expected that conflict be used to solve it. It becomes imperative that the people of these region put their representatives on their toes to deliver to the region and committedly key into the agenda of President Muhammadu Buhari to address these challenges and many more.

Finally, we cannot deny the fact that certain adventurers of Anioma origin still exist who have barefacedly and rapidly given their interest to Biafra seekers but we must warn that these people are far from speaking on our behalf. The attitudes of some of our youths, most of who did not experience the last civil war and innocently crave for one, can only be considered as a dangerous juvenile act. Our people cannot see the path to development and choose war for any reason.

By this timely warning, Ndi Anioma of Nigeria, the registered socio-cultural organization of the Anioma people shall begin to encourage other Anioma organizations to give our people proper orientations on this development. With this statement, Anioma people are putting the world on notice and at the same time, placing it on record that Anioma is not and cannot be part of Biafra despite the frequent use of the region’s name by such advocates.

We pledge our total and unalloyed support to the Federal government of Nigeria. On one Nigeria we stand.

God Bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria

God bless Delta State

God Bless Anioma

Duly Signed by :

Lauretta Onochie

Emeka Esogbue

Gloria Adagbon

Emmanuel Nwaokolo

Smart Ajaja

Frank Ofili

Benson Ozour

Harris Pen Ogbolu

Lawrence Sc Egwali

Gregory Ogbolu

Ifeanyi Onwuli

Fidelis Chimokwu

Press Release: Anioma, Not A Part Of Biafra - Abusidiqu
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[Chukwuma S. Agwunobi]

Oko Obo Advocate:

Below was my response to the mail you posted below. Please help me forward it to the so called ANIOMA people of which I am a part of it. I have crossed part with some of the fools there and I will like to Cross part again with them and cure them the ignorance still in them. Here is my response to them.

God Bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria
God bless Delta State
God Bless Anioma
Duly Signed by :

Lauretta Onochie: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA

Emeka Esogbue: From Ukwuani/Ndokwa LGA
 
Gloria Adagbon: From Ika LGA
 
Emmanuel Nwaokolo: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA
 
Smart Ajaja: From Ika LGA

Frank Ofili: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA
 
Benson Ozour: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA
 
Harris Pen Ogbolu: From Ukwuani/Ndokwa LGA
 
Lawrence Sc Egwali*: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA. Wrong spelling. It is a EMEGWALI*

 Gregory Ogbolu: From Ukwuani/Ndokwa LGA

Ifeanyi Onwuli: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA

Fidelis Chimokwu: From Aniocha/Oshumili LGA

Andy Okolo: From Ukwuani/Ndokwa LGA

 

NOWA:

 

Good try. You are at it again snooping around for any tribe that doesn’t like Igbo’s. I know most of the people mentioned above that signed the so called Press Release. I really don’t care about them. I will tell you right now that some of them don’t even know that their names are included in this useless Press Release.

 

They are bunch of Political Jobbers and scallywags, looking for contracts. They are inconsequential maladroits. A lot of them are used car salesmen and dealers in Nigeria Food Stuffs and Nigeria cloths. They go to every Nigeria Tribal Conventions to sell their goods. I will like you to respond to me and copy them.

 

IBB wanted to create a separate ANIOMA State that will include Onitsha and Nkpor to Obosi from Delta State but they the ANIOMA people opposed it. Then IBB proposed Delta State that will make ASABA the Capital, the people of Bendel State South, mainly the Urohobos, Ijaws, Isekiris and Isokos rejected it and they don’t Asaba because it is Nzeogwu and Igbo town close to Onitsha and SE. They played the Nzeogwu and the war card. Professor Eke of Eku and Professor Sagay and EK Clark was against anything to do with Asaba.

 

These people forgot that IBB wife is from Asaba his in-law place they are exhibiting this hatred upon. They also forgot that the Urohobos, Ijaws, Isekiris and Isokos played a major role in Orka coup of September 30, 1990 against him. That was why IBB lumped them together and made ASABA the capital.

 

As you can see from the above list, the ANIOMAS have big problems. The so called ANIOMA is dominated by people from Aniocha/Oshumili LGA, which is from Asaba to Obior, going through Ogwash-Uku and from Asaba to Onicha-Ugboh going through Isele-Uku.

 

Anioma was hastily formed to fight the Urohobos, Ijaws, Isekiris and Isokos who are against making Asaba the capital of Delta State by IBB. They feel that it is too close to SE-IGBOS who will take things away from them.

 

These people want Warri, Sapele or Ugheli to be the capital of Delta State. Ibori made Warri as the Commercial Capital of Delta State and Asaba as Political Capital. He named most of the new Streets after Urohobos and created Delta State University, Campus at OLEH, Delta State University Medical School, Oghara. School of Nursing, Oghara. Ozoro Polytechnics and Oghara Polytechnics. There is no Higher Institution in Ndokwa/Ukwuani LGA.

 

Put all these signees of the so called Press Release, let me take them head on and you will see them running away.

 

Moving on

I know the Ukwuani names there. They are young kids born in the mid 70’s who calls me uncle and OKEI meaning Elders man in Ukwuani.

 

They are among the young guys; I met in April this year, running around the length and breadth of Delta North Campaigning for Okowa for Governor under PDP and pouring invectives and abuses on the Yorubas for backstabbing GEJ.

 

Okay let’s agree with the Press Release signed by these Political Jobbers and Scallywags about the ANIOMA which means Good land that they don’t want to be part of Biafra.

I am definitely sure and 500% positive that they will never, never want to be part of the EDOS-BINIS in particular and the Yorubas for what the BINIS and Ngbati 7&8 Battalions Army did to them in September 1967.

 

If you think I am lying and you over value your worthiness, I will take you there and you listen to them.

 

Igbo’s doesn’t need any tribe to create Biafra because once Biafra is created, that will be the end of Nigeria as we know it because the remaining Major tribes [Ngbati and Gworo] people will be fighting who will control the center. They will be no Igbo’s to play the war card. That is the damn truth.

 

The Ijaws will kick the nyashes of the ITSEKIRIS, OGONIS and IKWERRES. I know that for facts that the Ijaws will tell the Ikwerres and Itsekiris that they are Igbo’s and Yorubas. If the Ijaws are telling the Igbo’s now that they own PH, what do you think that will happen to IKWERRES?

 

NOWA, I am much older than you. I am from the so called ANIOMA. I have many Palm Trees Farms, Cassava, homes and landed properties there. I know the beginning and the end of the war. I took part in it and I will educate you about Mid-West with emphasis to the so called Mid-West Igbo’s aka ANIOMA.

 

One family that you will be sure that will not be part of the EDOS, BINIS in particular and the Yorubas will be that of CHUKWUMA AGWUNOBI maternal family. That is the boast, bravado and machismo I will make to you.

 

Finally, do me a great favor, post my response to them so that they will read it and respond to me direct and let me cure them the CANCER of ignorance that have eaten their brains.

 

I have dealt with many of them in the past. They read my responses to TED ALLANAH rampage on Igbo’s and they wrote me privately to stop.

 

They are bunch of young punks who doesn’t know a damn thing about the war and the carnage of barbarians visited on them by the Yoruba soldiers.

 

ANIOMA aka Mid-West Igbo’s are not monolithic. ANIOMA cannot do without the Igbo’s. Anioma without Igbo’s is like Tea without Sugar and Milk. That is the damn Truth.

 

And with this, I rest my case.

 

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi

Seattle, Washington USA

 

 

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Honestly PMB, this isn’t what we voted for

By Aisha Umar Yusuf | Publish Date: Nov 27 2015 8:42PM | Updated Date: Nov 27 2015 11:15PM

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President Buhari with his United States counterpart President Obama

No one, who had witnessed the elections of March 28th 2015, can deny that we experienced anything short of a revolution. Except those didn’t want change, of course. Tales abound of very old and sometimes even disabled people, who braved the odds in order to make it to the polling booths and cast their votes. My 78 year old mother is one of those who couldn’t be stopped.

I called her on the night of March 27th and tried to discourage her from going to vote, knowing that the exercise will take a toll on her aching knee, but Mama wouldn’t hear of it. She saw no reason to waste her PVC when she could be part of that historic exercise. Luckily for her, the young people in our Kano Farm Centre polling booth were so respectful and well-behaved that the moment they saw her, they made way for her frail, lappaya-clad figure to get accredited without joining the queue. They repeated the same thing when she returned a few hours later to vote, with my younger sister in tow.

Nor were our young ones immuned to the ‘change fever’ that had gripped the nation. Indeed the contribution of our youths to the March 28th revolution just was unquantifiable. Both at home and abroad, Nigerian youths used the social media and other harvests of modern technology to make the electioneering campaign interesting and worthwhile.

When my 20-year-old daughter called from her medical college abroad, in order to share a laugh on the Orubebe comedy, I had to ask her how she managed to keep abreast with events going on here. In response, Fatima told me that she and her friends had been glued to their Ipads since the day of the elections, in order not to miss a thing about that historic transition.  Yes, that was how mobilized most Nigerians were on ‘Verdict 2015’.

Yet looking back on this, six months later, we can’t help wondering whether all that involvement was worth it. Most of the pressing needs that propelled Nigerians to democratically overthrow the old order are still unaddressed, yet the obvious single priority of President Muhammadu Buhari now is to jet out to any capital of the world he gets invited to.

Those of us who offered unsolicited advice in our columns, after his victory at the polls, had said that his government must hit the ground running, given the enormity of the problems it has inherited from previous administrations. I, in particular, advocated a hands-on approach, with the Former General leading by example, in every one of the areas that demanded urgent attention.

But with the insurgency still raging (just as I was writing this piece yesterday, the news broke that a Shiite procession in Kano was bomb, leaving 21 people dead and numerous others injured) and no clue as to how female suicide bombers are being recruited and enabled to reach their targets; with the Chibok girls nowhere in sight and the fuel queues returning, it’s amazing that President Buhari still believes he has the leisure to keep travelling abroad.

For instance, if he had to be at the CHOGM in Malta because of how important we still believe the Commonwealth is, why couldn’t he send his Minister of State, Ibe Kachikwu to Iran for the gas exporting countries meeting in Tehran? Why honour the Iranian invitation then soon after jet out to Malta for CHOGM and from there proceed to France as if Nigeria is not in crisis, and sending VP Yemi Osinbajo to France will not suffice?

In all honesty, those who have the President’s ear, like my former boss Malam Garba Shehu, should let him know that Nigerians are not happy with his turning into a jet-setting CEO. Even Former President Obasanjo, who didn’t meet the kind of challenges Buhari met, was criticized for being a flight-happy leader who couldn’t say ‘no’ to the chance of an overseas a trip. What more of someone who was elected when the country was at war with insurgents and learning to come to grips with ugly realities such as suicide bombing?

Yes, we remember President-elect Buhari saying that we should not expect miracles from him because the rot he met cannot be cleared overnight; and we agreed with him. But surely his being with us, as we confront the challenges around will give us the strength and confidence to persevere till we overcome, won’t it? Even his legendary body language will not continue to make impact when it’s hardly there to be felt.

A joke that made the rounds on WhatsApp lately told about an elderly lady who has heard news of recent bomb blasts, high cost of foodstuffs, fuel scarcity and non-payment of workers’ salaries. She was said to have picked her mobile phone and called her eldest son.

‘Dear son,’ she ‘I know you will never lie to me. So in the name of God you better tell me the truth; did Jonathan really hand over to Buhari?’

This might be a joke, but it certainly echoes the feelings of countless Nigerians who made the revolution of March 28th a reality.

President Buhari must avoid making the claim true, that politicians who have been in the opposition for long often fail to deliver when they get to win, for the simple reason that all they knew how to do was be in opposition.

Those who subscribe to this belief cite the examples of Abdurrahman Wahid of Indonesia (who was an opposition leader for 30 years) and Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal (who was in opposition since Senegalese Independence in the 1960s) and the fact that both had failed to make meaningful impact on their country when they finally had the chance to rule. PMB must break this jinx and perform the wonders we dreamt of on March 28th. The first step to that is by staying put in Aso Rock to work.

 

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Extra budgetary spending is criminal, says Oshiomhole

Edo State Governor Adams Oshiomhole yesterday called for the prosecution of all those involved in extra budgetary expenditure under the Dr Goodluck Jonathan administration. Such an act is criminal in the eyes of the law, he said.

Oshiomhole, who spoke at the quadrennial delegates conference of the Non Academic Staff Union of Educational and Associated Institutions (NASU) in Abuja, said democratic norms and the nation’s legal system recognised separation of powers and the fact that no money can be spent from the treasury without first being appropriated by the legislature.

He also said that it was criminal for a minister to release money from the treasury when such money was not appropriated for and not contained in the Appropriation Act.

The former NLC President, who noted that Labour had been docile in recent time, said it was unfortunate that once a wealthy man is accused of corruption, he would seek the court’s permission to travel out of the country for medical treatment.

“Last week, a big man was accused of spending $2billion and he said, ‘yes, we bought arms’. The law says before money is spent, it must first be appropriated by parliament. That money, which they claimed to have used to buy arms, was it appropriated by the National Assembly?

“Does the then President have power to spend money that has not been appropriated? Does the Minister have power to release money from the national treasury that has not been captured in the appropriation law? Is that not part of conspiracy?

“NLC should insist that all those involved in non-approved spending and money that was not in the Appropriation Act must not only refund the money, but must be prosecuted.”

The governor added: “Part of the paradox of our society is that when the big man does something wrong, the Senior Advocates are ready to go to war; medical doctors are ready. A man is facing huge corruption charges and judges are granting permission for him to fly overseas.

“When a worker is accused by a local policeman of driving without driver’s licence, he is dumped in the cell and from there to prison. You go to our prisons, you see sick detainees whose only offence is that they stole N100. Do they have permission to go overseas for treatment?

“Are there instances of court granting them permission to go and get well first before facing trial? Are we all not supposed to be equal before the law? Criminal charges are not like Christmas packages. People must be made to pay for their crimes.

“They have lived above the law before because they were covered by the umbrella and we couldn’t see them and now that the umbrella has been blown off, they must answer their father’s name and the working class must support the effort. I ask us to meticulously follow the debate and what is going on and take a position.

On minimum wage, Oshiomhole said it was out of place for the governors to say that it was wrong for it to have been fixed centrally and imposed on the states when they have not argued against the Revenue Mobilisation and Fiscal Commission fixing the salaries of governors.

He said: “The idea of minimum wage must be sustained and I have told my colleagues. What must be clear for those who want to selectively apply the principle of federalism is that the head must lead by example for others to follow.

“Why must the salaries of governors be centrally determined in Abuja through the Revenue Mobilisation and Fiscal Commission? Why should the Edo State Governor earn the same salary as the Lagos State Governor? This is fixed by Abuja. So, if we want to decentralise, we start from the top and not from the bottom. The idea of a minimum wage is meant to have a floor. It talks about the minimum; it doesn’t talk about the maximum.

“Buhari does not believe that the burden of this current crisis should be borne by the poorest of our society. He does not share the conviction that market and market alone should determine the way forward. So, support him to squeeze from those who have so that those who are thirsty can have something.

“The rich must pay more tax. Anybody who parks a private jet on Abuja tarmac, Revenue Board must ask him to provide his tax receipt so that we know how much tax he pays.”

Extra budgetary spending is criminal, says Oshiomhole - The Nation Nigeria
http://thenationonlineng.net/extra-budgetary-spending-is-criminal-says-oshiomhole/

[A. Jagun]

R.I.P

WITH GRATITUDE TO GOD ALMIGHTY, I ANNOUNCE WITH DEEPEST SYMPATHY AND SENSE OF LOSS, THE PASSING TODAY DECEMBER 2, 2015, INTO GLORY OF MY VERY GOOD FRIEND AND CONFIDANT, PROFESSOR YINUSA OYENEYE, FORMER VICE CHANCELLOR OF THE OLABISI ONABANJO UNIVERSITY, AGO IWOYE.

FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS WILL FOLLOW.

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Disciples of Fortune—Janvier Chouteu-Chando’s historical saga—is the gripping tale of the family and the world of Joseph Nana Njike, the man known as the Maker:  the most powerful businessman, thinker and advocate of social solidarity of his time in the heart of the African continent.

 

A soldier in the German colonial army in Kamerun adopts whiz-kid Josef Nana Njike and takes him to Germany where he excels and graduates from the prestigious Humboldt University as an agronomist. He returns to his homeland without his son Hans.

 

Josef reconnects with his past, starts a family and makes unprecedented sacrifices while building his business empire. He confronts the realities of colonial rule without the protection of his benefactor, grapples with the bizarre challenges of the rule of the new French masters, and experiences losses without losing his vision for his people. 

 

After Hans escapes the growing clout of Nazism and joins his father and new family, Josef thinks he now has the last ace to make his greater vision to come true.  But as he observes the birth and growth of the new generation, he wonders whether his descendants would thrive in a land with a mysterious way of transforming heroes to victims and villains to masters. Nevertheless, just like him, his family survives the chaos that engulfs their world.

 

The zest of life, the search for its true meaning, and the unequivocal love for family weave the characters into this spellbinder.

 

Disciples of Fortune

 

 

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Arms Deal: Dasuki's Account Officer Names Ex-VP Sambo, Okupe, Others, See Names & Amount Collected

More revelations by former Accounts Officer II, Ibrahim Idris Wambai have shown that the Office of ex-Vice President Namadi Sambo was on a monthly stipend of N20million from the Office of the National Security Adviser(ONSA).

Several presidential aides also benefitted from slush funds from the ONSA,according to Wambai,who singled out five firms which were used as platforms by some people to receive funds from the office.

Many prominent Nigerians and leaders similarly drew huge funds from the office.

Records of all cash payments to such individuals and organizations are still intact, he said in a Statement of Witness/Accused Person which was filed by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission(EFCC) in the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory.

The certified statement on oath is part of the Proof of Evidence for the trial of nine suspects next week.

He said: “In December 2014, I took cash of N4million to Col. Madaki(rtd) in his residence in Wuse II Abuja. I had made many cash payments to Doyin Okupe, Ahmad Idris (PA to ex-NSA), ADC to former First Lady Patience Jonathan as payments for monthly operation allowances.

“The documents showing evidence of the payments are in the office of Yazidu Ibrahim in cash payment files. The exact amounts paid and date of payments I cannot remember but are available in the files.

“The venue for the collection of the money was my office and the money was given to me from the cash in the strong room.

“So many cash payments were made on a monthly basis to the following beneficiaries: Office of the former Vice President, Arc. Namadi Sambo (N20,000,000). The money was being collected by former Deputy Chief of Staff; ADC to former President (amount not known but in cash payment files; Chief Personal physician to former President Goodluck Jonathan; former coordinator on anti-terrorism, Gen. Sarkin Yaki; former Director PC4, Gen. Terba Waya (rtd); Personal Assistant, Domestic Affairs to ex-President Goodluck Jonathan.

“The amounts and frequency of payments to the beneficiaries as well as the list of other beneficiaries are in the cash payment files

“I also witnessed several payments in cash to various people. Prominent was about payment of N300million to former Chairman on Security and Intelligence, Dr. Bello Matawalle from the cash in the strong room.

“To get details of cash payments in Naira and individuals and organizations summary and vouchers from January 2011 to July 2015, the documents are kept in Yazidu Ibrahim’s former office. These should be collected from the Director of Finance and Administration, Col. Jafaru Mohammed. I and Yazidu Ibrahim can supply the files and the summary.”

He named five firms allegedly used for curious transfers from the ONSA.

His words: “The amounts of the five companies are ACACIA Holdings Limited(N600,000,000) via account no. 1017330319 with UBA and N650million via account no. 0122012650 with ECOBANK Nigeria Limited; Reliance Referral Hospital Limited(N750m) via account no.2022394057 with First Bank Nigeria Plc; Jabbama Global Nigeria Limited(N400m) via account no. 1013898095 with Zenith Bank; Continental Development etc.”

Meanwhile, ex-Minister of State for Finance, ex-Governor Attahiru Bafarawa and his son, Sagir Attahiru and Dalhatu Investment Limited may have to account for over N18.09billion when their trial begins next week.

Part of the cash was for PDP’s ‘Operation Capture North West’.

The cumulative cash does not include the $9.809m allegedly collected by ex-Minister of State Yuguda from ONSA between December 23, 2014 and February 10, 2015.

According to the charge sheet filed by EFCC, the suspects benefited from the said funds between April 14, 2014 and May 7, 2015.

Some of the charges are : “That you Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst being National Security Adviser and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being the Director of Finance and Administration in the Office of the National Security Adviser between 14th April and 7th May 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court entrusted with dominion over certain properties to wit: an aggregate sum of N3.350billion being part of the funds in the account of the National Security Adviser with the CBN, committed criminal breach of trust in respect of the said properties when you transferred same to the account of Dalhatu Investment Limited with United Bank for Africa Plc purporting same to be payment for the supply of security equipment and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 315 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Dalhatu Investment Limited, Sagir Attahiru and Attahiru Dalhatu Bafarawa between 14th April 2014 and 7th May 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court, dishonestly received stolen property, to wit: an aggregate sum of N3.350billion with UBA Plc from the account of the Office of the National Security Adviser(ONSA) with the Central Bank of Nigeria(CBN), which belonged to the Federal Government of Nigeria and knowing the said sum to be stolen property but purporting same to be payment for the supply of security equipment and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 317 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Dalhatu Investment Limited, Sagir Attahiru and Attahiru Dalhatu Bafarawa between 14th April 2014 and 7th May 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court knew that an aggregate sum of N3.350billion directly represented the proceeds of criminal conducts of Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki and Shuaibu Salisu who were National Security Adviser and the Director of Finance, Office of the National Security Adviser respectively ( to wit: criminal breach of trust in respect of the said amount) had possession of the said property and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 317 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst being National Security Adviser and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being the Director of Finance and Administration in the Office of the National Security Adviser on or about 20th December 2013 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court entrusted with dominion over certain properties to wit: N500million being part of the funds in the account of the National Security Adviser with Skye Bank Plc, committed criminal breach of trust in respect of the said property when you transferred same to the account of Dalhatu Investment Limited with United Bank for Africa Plc purporting same to be payment for the supply of security equipment and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 315 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst being National Security Adviser and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being the Director of Finance and Administration in the Office of the National Security Adviser, Bashir Yuguda whilst being the Minister of State for Finance between 5th February and 16th April 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court entrusted with dominion over certain properties to wit: an aggregate sum of N1.1billion being part of the funds in the account of the National Security Adviser with CBN committed criminal breach of trust in respect of the said property when you transferred same to the account of Jabbama Ada Global Services Nigeria Limited for the purpose of financing the campaign of PDP in the 2015 general election and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 315 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you, Bashir Yuguda whilst being Minister of State for Finance between 23rd December 2014 and 10th February, 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court dishonestly misappropriated certain property to wit: an aggregate sum of $9,809,619 which was an equivalent of the aggregate sum of N1,950,000 belonging to the Federal Republic of Nigeria, which sum was transferred to Jabbama Ada Global Services to be converted into the said dollars and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 309 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst being National Security Adviser and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being the Director of Finance and Administration in the Office of the National Security Adviser, between August 2013 and February 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court dishonestly misappropriated certain property to wit: an aggregate sum of N1.675billion belonging to the Federal Republic of Nigeria which sum was transferred to the account of Vibrant Resources Limited controlled by Abubakar Dasuki, the younger brother of Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki, the then National Security Adviser and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 309 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst being National Security Adviser and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being the Director of Finance and Administration in the Office of the National Security Adviser, Bashir Yuguda whilst being the Minister of State for Finance between 14th April 2014 and 7th May, 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court agreed to do an illegal act to wit: criminal breach of trust by public officers in respect of an aggregate sum of N5,050b being part of the funds in the account of the National Security Adviser with CBN and that the same act was done in pursuance of the agreement among you and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 97 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

“That you Bashir Yuguda, Dalhatu Investment Limited, Sagir Attahiru and Attahiru Dalhatu Bafarawa between 2013 and 2015 in Abuja within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court agreed to do an illegal act to wit: dishonestly receiving stolen property to wit: an aggregate sum of N4.633b being part of the funds in the accounts of the ONSA and that the same act was done in pursuance of the agreement among you and you thereby committed an offence punishable under Section 97 of the Penal Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.

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I got no cash for attack, says Buhari

•President entitled to two SUVs

The Presidency last night declared that President Muhammadu Buhari did not get any monetary compensation from the administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan for the Boko Haram attack on his convoy in Kaduna.

The clarification was contained in a statement by Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Mr Femi Adesina.

The statement reads: “Our attention has been drawn to reports making the rounds, especially on internet-based media, that President Muhammadu Buhari received $300,000.00 and up to five armoured SUVs from the Office of the National Security Adviser in the aftermath of the attack on his convoy in Kaduna, last year.

“We unequivocally deny that President Buhari received $300,000.00 or any monetary compensation whatsoever from the Jonathan Presidency or any of its officials, in the aftermath of that attack, or at any other time since then.

“While it is true that one armoured SUV and one untreated SUV were sent to the President in the aftermath of the attack, the vehicles were in keeping with his entitlements as a former Head of State under the Remuneration of Former Presidents and Heads of State (And other Ancillary Matters) Decree of 1999.

“Section 3, Sub Section 1 of that Decree provides that three vehicles will be provided for former heads of state and replaced every four years.”

“There was therefore nothing untoward, illegal or tending to corruption in former Head of State Buhari and Presidential aspirant, as he then was, receiving vehicles, to which he was statutorily entitled, from the Federal Government of Nigeria.

President Buhari was said to have shunned most of his entitlements as a former Head of State in keeping with his austere, spartan and frugal disposition.

But President Buhari was prevailed upon by his supporters to accept the two vehicles for his personal safety in the aftermath of the dastardly attempt to assassinate him.

The statement said it was preposterous to think that the President will allow his acclaimed reputation of honesty and incorruptibility to be tarnished by accepting a questionable monetary compensation from a discredited regime.

I got no cash for attack, says Buhari - The Nation Nigeria
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$2.1 Billion Arms Deal: EFCC Moves Against Okonjo-Iweala, 3 CBN Governors

The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission is set to move against the former Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister of the Economy in the last administration, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the incumbent Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, Mr. Godwin Emefiele, his predecessors, Emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II and former Acting Governor of the CBN, Mrs. Sarah Alade over the affairs of the Central Bank of Nigeria in relation to the ongoing $2.1 Billion Arms purchase probe, a top EFCC operative, who spoke on condition of anonymity told Punch News.

However, the top shot did not give the exact date when the top figures involved in the release of funds and approval in some cases would be invited by the commission.

“I will find out and get back to you. These cases are very many; several of them are ongoing but I will get back to you on this issue,” he added.

Meanwhile, the Chairman of the EFCC, Mr. Ibrahim Magu, has disclosed plans to establish of a Procurement Fraud Unit in the commission to strengthen the fight against corruption in the country.

The Head of Media and Publicity of the EFCC, Mr. Wilson Uwujaren, quoted the EFCC acting chairman as having made the comment while hosting a coalition of civil society organisations, in a statement on Wednesday.

Uwujaren said Magu expressed concern over the increasing rate of procurement fraud and told his guests that the PFU would contribute immensely to the anti-corruption battle when it became operational.

“I am so concerned about procurement fraud. I am thinking of establishing a unit, purely on procurement fraud. When put in place, it will go a long way in checking corruption,” Magu said.


$2.1 Billion Arms Deal: EFCC Moves Against Okonjo-Iweala, 3 CBN Governors - NewsPunch.org
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