Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

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Ola Kassim

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Dear All:


As a senior medical colleague and fellow Nigerian, I am extremely disappointed by the
xenophobic views expressed by Dr Abraham Ariyo on social media--
specifically on his Facebook page.

He has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the privileges
accorded to members of his profession by society in general.

Dr Ariyo undoubtedly faces some tough times ahead regarding the Texas Medical Board
investigation that would eventually ensue following the complaints that will be made
against him by those aggrieved by his utterances.

Regardless, I would not want Dr Ariyo to lose his licence to practise Medicine over this unfortunate incident.
This is the reason Dr Ariyo must find away of assuaging those whose feelings he has hurt by his vituperations.

Dr Ariyo owes the Igbo and other Nigerians an unreserved apology. 

Likewise, those who are organizing online protests to have Dr Ariyo disciplined by the Texas Medical Board should shield their swords as soon as Dr Ariyo tenders his apology.

As long as Dr Ariyo does not already have previous complaints of this nature against him at the Texas Medical Board it is most likely that the most serious penalty he would receive after years of investigating 
the complaints will be a Warning and a Reprimand on his professional record. It is unlikely that he would be stricken off thee Medical Register for this gross Misconduct as a first time offender.

The South African youths who have been slaughtering and setting
 foreigners on fire with burning  tire necklaces are too ignorant to tell who
 is Nigerian from who is
Zimbabwean, Ghanaian, Malawian or Ethiopian not to mention bothering to know
that if they are Nigerian whether or not they are Igbo.

There are tens of thousands of young Nigerians amongst the expatriate
African population in major SA cities such as Jo'Burg, Cape Town, Pretoria and Durban.
The Nigerian population in SA is a diverse group--representing mostly the Igbo, Yoruba,
Edo and others from the Middle belt, the SS and the North. Hence when SA rioters maim
and kill African foreigners, the chances are that their anger is directed at all Africans
whom they believe are robbing them of their livelihood not just Nigerians, Igbo, Yoruba and other
ethnic groups.


Bye,

Ola



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Ola,

 

Can you imagine the fate of an Igbo man under anaesthetics in the hands of Dr Ariyo, this is the real issue for me. Don’t you think this man is a danger to the public, or to be more precise, to the Igbo public?

 

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Youve made xenophobic statements too..   Only yours is subtle 


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Leye Ige

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Dr, Ola Kassim,
Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT apologize for his views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The allegations and accusations against him MUST be CONTESTED. The Texas Medical Board as well as Attorney General MUST listen to BOTH sides.  That is the ONLY FAIR  road to JUSTICE.
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Dear
All:





As a senior medical colleague and
fellow Nigerian, I am extremely disappointed by the

xenophobic views expressed by Dr Abraham Ariyo on social
media--

specifically on his Facebook page.



He has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the
privileges

accorded to members of his profession by society in
general.



Dr Ariyo undoubtedly faces some tough times ahead regarding
the Texas Medical Board

investigation that would eventually ensue following the
complaints that will be made

against him by those aggrieved by his
utterances.
Regardless, I would not want Dr
Ariyo to lose his licence to practise Medicine over this
unfortunate incident.This is
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Dr. Kassim,

What is frightening is that Ariyo is a medical doctor. Texas is full of Nigerians and the medical boards need to investigate whether this man has murdered Ndigbo in his practice as a medical doctor. This same view applies to university professors who hold same view as this man. One needs to ask if they have failed and punished students of igbo extraction because of their hatred.

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"This same view applies to university professors who hold same view as this man. One needs to ask if they have failed and punished students of igbo extraction because of their hatred."--Wharfsnake.


At least you guys have launched a complaint against Dr. Ariyo. So, go ahead and launch your own complaint about "university professors" who have "failed and punished students of Igbo extraction". That is the ONLY way to go.
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Ola,

Before one apologizes for a statement (even if only for peace sake and not that one regrets the statement), one must assess the possibility of the apology being accepted. The folks that are after Dr Ariyo are not refined individuals that will accept apology. Was Oba of Lagos' apology/explanation accepted? Dr Ariyo should consult a good lawyer. I don't know the circumstances of the statement by Dr Ariyo, but in view of provocative statements about ownership of Lagos by some Igbos, and their insult and abuse of Oba of Lagos, any Igbo that contests ownership of Lagos with Yorubas deserves whatever he gets from a mob action in Lagos. And this includes some people on these forums.

 
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Dear Leye:

Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such speech.

It is also not protected under Canadian and international laws. This is the reason why the Hutu leaders who provoked the violence that culminated in the Rwandan genocide could be successfully prosecuted and jailed at The Hague even though there was no single evidence that any one of the accused either carried a machete or personally physically hurt any one of the victims.

Let us tone down the rhetoric!

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Dr. Ola Kassim,
This is not about "hate speech". It is protected. The best way to "tone down the rhetoric" is to demand for a PUBLIC INQUIRY/HEARING where BOTH sides will state their case so we may have JUSTICE done. That is all.
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Ayo,

... And if he murdered igbo under his care that is fine by you, right?


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"Hate speeches are not "protected speeches", and I believe you meant free speech act......We just don't know until after investigation."


Call it what you like--Yes, there MUST be an INVESTIGATION--- including a PUBLIC HEARING. So, let's go for it. JUSTICE MUST BE DONE.
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Hate speeches are not "protected
speeches", and I believe you meant free speech act.  
Mr. Ariyo attempted to incite genocide against Igbo, that is
clearly terror against innocent people.  Apology will not
save him, and first time offender will not do it for him
either.  He is a criminal and must be removed from medicine
where he can potentially kill and covers it up.  Does
anybody know what else he had done undetected?  We just
don't know until after investigation.
What about Mr. Akiolu, who also
threatened Igbo in Lagos, and Raj Fashola who deported Igbo
from their own country and threatened their properties in
Lagos? To date many Igbo properties worth billions of naira
have been destroyed by Yorubas in Lagos.  Mr Ariyo is most
likely part of this network of Yoruba tribal haters
targeting Igbo in Nigeria.  And nagging question is why?
 Nigeria is open and citizens are free to do business as
they want.   So why are these Yoruba targeting Igbo and
their hard earned properties, rather than competing?
 Portharcourt is filled with Yorubas looting crude oil 24/7
unmolested, and they are everywhere in Nigeria making a
living.  But in Lagos rather than compete they target Igbo
and their properties.
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Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT apologize for his
views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The allegations and
accusations against him MUST be CONTESTED. The Texas Medical
Board as well as Attorney General MUST listen to BOTH
sides.  That is the ONLY FAIR  road to JUSTICE.

Leye Ige

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As a senior medical colleague and

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xenophobic views expressed by Dr Abraham Ariyo on social

media--



specifically on his Facebook page.







He has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with
the

privileges



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Dr Ariyo undoubtedly faces some tough times ahead
regarding

the Texas Medical Board



investigation that would eventually ensue following the

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utterances.

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The only sensible point in your rant below is that the idiotic doctor’s apology will not be accepted. And going into hiding will not save him from the legal repercussions that will follow in the wake of his call for the killings of Ndi-Igbo. That road to legal redress is already in progress. Your consul to him to consult a good lawyer, he should heed.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

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This Leye Ige is really making a jack-ass of himself.  Hate speech is now protected speech?  Where did Leye Ige get his degrees from? 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

Dear Leye:

Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such speech.

It is also not protected under Canadian and international laws. This is the reason why the Hutu leaders who provoked the violence that culminated in the Rwandan genocide could be successfully prosecuted and jailed at The Hague even though there was no single evidence that any one of the accused either carried a machete or personally physically hurt any one of the victims.

Let us tone down the rhetoric!

Bye,

Ola

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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:17 PM, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Dr, Ola Kassim,
> Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT apologize for his views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The allegations and accusations against him MUST be CONTESTED. The Texas Medical Board as well as Attorney General MUST listen to BOTH sides.  That is the ONLY FAIR  road to JUSTICE.
> Leye Ige
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 4/21/15, 'Ola Kassim' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding
> Dear
> All:
>
>
>
>
>
> As a senior medical colleague and
> fellow Nigerian, I am extremely disappointed by the
>
> xenophobic views expressed by Dr Abraham Ariyo on social
> media--
>
> specifically on his Facebook page.
>
>
>
> He has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the
> privileges
>
> accorded to members of his profession by society in
> general.
>
>
>
> Dr Ariyo undoubtedly faces some tough times ahead regarding
> the Texas Medical Board
>
> investigation that would eventually ensue following the
> complaints that will be made
>
> against him by those aggrieved by his
> utterances.
> Regardless, I would not want Dr
> Ariyo to lose his licence to practise Medicine over this
> unfortunate incident.This is
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Vin Otunoye,
Do your research very well. You don't get to define what "hate speech" is.
Leye Ige
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By the way, Leye Ige maybe trying to hide under his pseudonym but he should be informed that preaching genocide is a crime in the USA. The way I see it there maybe collateral damage stemming from Adeniran's hate speech. Leye Ige maybe in line as a co-conspirator.


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Afis:

 

If you really want to see what “a village ignoramus” looks like, go stand before that crooked mirror in your living room. After, you may have to take basic course in a two-year college to know what is and not, free speech which is where you are hinging your idiocy on.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Dr Asagwara, yours below is that of a village Ignoramus.

What legal repercussions?

Here you go again, you don't get tired of taking a loser's side?

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Canice,

This has nothing to do with his professional practice and you know. And we are all at liberty as to who could be out medical givers. I won't be surprised if tomorrow there is a campaign that Igbos should not agree to a non-Igbo Nigerian medical care giver. That is how much some of you are afraid of your shadows.

 
"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 

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Ken,

I am sure you know that without Dr Ariyo's call for killings of Ndigbo, some of you will not get away with what you write here if you should voice them in appropriate locations in Lagos.

 
"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 

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A respond to a total nincompoop like Leye Ige is a total waste of time.  No one should try to educate a complete hate ridden monkey on drugs like Leye Ige.  Forget the fool.
 
 
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Good thoughts, Dr. Kassim!
Dr Abraham Ariyo "has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the privileges
accorded to members of his profession by society in general." (Kassim)
Well said...But that is more reason the doctor should be re-evaluated by the board. In short, if he said what he is being accused of saying, I'm afraid Dr. Ariyo may not be in the best mental state to practice medicine. His apology does not really matter. This issue should not be pooh-poohed to a tribal affair. It is about his state of health, actually. What is important now is to ensure that he is truly okay so that his patients do not become victims. 

Blessings+

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I already stood by the mirror, Dr Asagwara, and guess what?
I saw your face staring back ignorantly.

What you posted below says nothing, teaches nothing, just as an ignoramus would have done.
As an ignoramus who read books but have no commonsense to help apply logic into books you read........and as a village Igbo who sauntered into town wearing a Bantu wrapper.....Please Dr Asagwara, teach Afis nah.
Post here on cyberspaces and explain what constitutes "hate speech" in Ariyo's comment, and how it may be used in court against Dr Ariyo.

I am waiting while I keep smiling at your Ignorance Face in my crooked mirror.
Shikena 
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Chika:

While Dr. Ariyo should not have wrote what was ascribed to him because it lacks sensitivity, but it does not appear to be a direct call for the slaughter of Igbo in Nigeria.  His statement could be considered as "speculative." That is, what could happen. Thus, your headline is very misleading. It amounts to irresponsible journalism to say the least.

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Afis:

 

The fact that you stood by your crooked mirror and saw another man’s face instead of yours gives me some concern for your state of mind. Are you really ok or should I call your family doctor? Or would you prefer that I call your Yoruba Babalawo given how fetish you are?

 

You see, an ignoramus is as ignoramus does and you have epitomized that ogre. Since you know not what constitutes hate speech, no surprise there. But I will not be the one to educate you on it. Take my friendly suggestion to go register for a basic course in it at any two year college near you.

 

Like I said, your irredentist atavistic Yoruba brother has gone into hiding while you that has nothing to lose remain bawling in the forums on his behalf. The shit disturber that you are.

 

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Chika's journalism has always been irresponsible. This particular headline is not only irresponsible, it is stupid. Why "Nigerian (Yoruba) Cardiologist" and not "Nigerian Cardiologist"? After all it is all the ethnic groups in Nigeria that hate Igbos, and from the name of the Cardiologist, his ethnic group is obvious.

 
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Please name those “in appropriate locations in Lagos” and you will be invited to be present to hear those things you said are written in the forums. At least, no Igbo person has ever called for the mass killings of the Yoruba or any other of Nigeria’s ethnic nationalities for that matter. The Igbo do not engage in ethnic cleansing. We are very proud of that.

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Ola, I do not agree with you that people should just become amnesic as soon as this moron of an MD tenders an apology, if he does. At this point, who really cares if he apologizes or not? You seem to forget his position in the  helping profession, especially his training that gives him the power of life and death. This Josef Megele is ostensibly a medical doctor, who is bound by the Hippocratic oat to do no harm, and here he is engaging in a hate speech that urges people to kill the Igbos for reasons best known to him. So, Ola tell me, what one does with salt that has lost its flavor? Perhaps, you urge that Yorubas, Hausas and other ethnic groups in Texas continue to patronize Josef Mengele, but it will be next to impossible to persuade any Igbo to continue to be this being's patient, contingent upon his utterances, which called for the extermination of the Igbo. Put yourself in the shoes of an Igbo. Would you trust him with your care? Do you think that those he has urged their extermination are so foolish that they wish to commit harakiri?  Of course not. The more poignant of  this Mengele's hate speech is that he practices in Texas, Dallas metropolis, where there are a lot of Igbo residents and you want these to give their lives over to Joseph Mengele? Gladly, Joseph Mengele practices in a society, where people are routinely held accountable, contrary to what obtains in Nigeria, where persons, such high placed entities as the Oba of Lagos can go scot free regardless of his actions. Trust me, Josef Mengele will pay a high and protracted price for this, especially as we don't know if he already harmed Igbos previously under his care. As for losing his medical license, who cares? If the cap fits, Mengele must wear it. People lose their licenses everyday and this, if and when he loses it, would not make a dent in anything. Darwin's axiom will prevail. Professionals in all fields are held accountable to a higher professional and moral behavior and if they engage in such egregiousness that compromises their ability to provide service, then they may not continue in the provision of such services, and Ola, you know this yourself very well.  Mengele, just like Macbeth has murdered sleep, therefore shall he sleep no more.

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As you guys know I was born and raised in Lagos. Unlike most of you guys here who did not quite mingle with other Nigerians, I consider myself very luck. I am of triple heritage. I am Igbo, I am Yoruba and I am Nigerian. Because of my upbringing, I speak fluent Yoruba and assimilate with the people. I want to help Dr. Abraham Ayilo out. If anyone reading this email know the man, tell him to get himself up; get out of his hiding and make an unreserved apology for his rant. There are many way he can make his apology. I'll suggest he may want to consider using the same medium he used - face book - to make his apology. The other medium he can use is by calling the President of ICAN - ICAN being Igbo Community Association of Dallas Texas and asking to speak to Ndigbo in Dallas Texas. He can go to their monthly meeting and make an unreserved apology. We all make mistakes and we should learn to be forgiving of others when they wronged us.
 
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Vin,

The man should apologize for saying that every where Igbos go, they claim ownership of the place (as they claim Lagos and Abuja)? In Abuja they want an Igbo appointed as FCT Minister because according to them Igbo "controls 70% of business in Abuja". He should apologize for saying Igbos continue to provoke their hosts "wherever they go until native says I have had enough"? You must be kidding for asking for apology from someone who is warning Igbos of consequences of their attitude. Apology ko, apology ni. You better take his advice and stop your disrespect for your host communities. You are particularly guilty with your insult of Oba of Lagos.

 
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Ken,

Isele Eko is an appropriate location. Don't bother to invite me as I will not want to witness what will happen to you. 

You don't call for mass killing of other ethnic groups, but you lay claim to what belongs to them and disrespect your host communities. Instead of asking why Igbo (and not any other ethnic group) everywhere Igbo lives (particularly Lagos and Abuja), you are asking for someone's head for warning Igbos of consequences of their claim of what belongs to others.

 
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Ayo Ojutalayo

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Vin:

Remain blessed!

Even though I am aware that you were born and raised in Lagos, I was not aware that you also speak fluent Yoruba.

That you consider yourself lucky to have had such an early exposure to Nigerians of diverse ethnic groups is a recognition of a 'luck' which we often take for granted because we are unaware that not all Nigerians grew up in large multi-ethnic jurisdictions.

There is no doubt in my mind that Dr Ariyo got carried away and that in the heat of an argument he went too far.
The fact that he has now closed his FaceBook Page is an admission in itself that he made a grievous mistake.

All human beings are capable of committing errors, both small
and large.

I still believe that a simple sincere and unreserved apology tendered along the lines you have suggested would suffice
for most Igbo and other Nigerians who are offended by his remarks.

To err is human; to forgive is divine!

That Diaspora Nigerians remain overtly and covertly ethnically more divided compared to our compatriots at home in Nigeria is not that surprising as it is an attribute that we share with the Worldwide Diaspora.

Expatriates who have lived outside their motherland for several decades often harbor a skewed perception of the real situations in the homelands they left behind. They imagine the inter-ethnic relationships and other matters as if they had remained static since they departed the shores of their homelands, when in fact the reality is that every society evolves on a daily basis. The societal norms that were prevalent when we left Nigeria are no longer exactly the same as they were.


As Pastor Joe wrote earlier today the Nigerians at home interact more harmoniously across ethnic lines than is apparent on Nigerian cyberspace which is populated mostly by those over the age of 50 years, many of whom have not stepped foot on Nigerian soil for 20 to 30 years.

Nigerians at home work and live together regardless of their ethnic groups. When they participate in wholesome and progressive ventures they cooperate with their fellow citizens from other ethnic groups. Similarly when they loot the Nigerian treasury they loot together!

Bye,

Ola




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Would an Igbo patient or any human being for that matter want a Doctor that wants a group of people massacred to practice medicine on them ?  

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"My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”. This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc. Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued. The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all."----Dr. Ariyo
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How many of his patients are Igbo.  You people have greater problems to worry about than a doctor voicing his opinion no matter how bad.  Hate speech is allowed in the US.  Even KKK I allowed to match.  You guys may never lead Nigeria again based this herd instinct of yours



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Would an Igbo patient or any human being for that matter want a Doctor that wants a group of people massacred to practice medicine on them ?  
Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding
Good thoughts, Dr. Kassim!
Dr Abraham Ariyo "has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the privileges
accorded to members of his profession by society in general." (Kassim)
Well said...But that is more reason the doctor should be re-evaluated by the board. In short, if he said what he is being accused of saying, I'm afraid Dr. Ariyo may not be in the best mental state to practice medicine. His apology does not really matter. This issue should not be pooh-poohed to a tribal affair. It is about his state of health, actually. What is important now is to ensure that he is truly okay so that his patients do not become victims. 

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Canice,

This has nothing to do with his professional practice and you know. And we are all at liberty as to who could be out medical givers. I won't be surprised if tomorrow there is a campaign that Igbos should not agree to a non-Igbo Nigerian medical care giver. That is how much some of you are afraid of your shadows.

 
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Ayo,

... And if he murdered igbo under his care that is fine by you, right?

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Ola,

Before one apologizes for a statement (even if only for peace sake and not that one regrets the statement), one must assess the possibility of the apology being accepted. The folks that are after Dr Ariyo are not refined individuals that will accept apology. Was Oba of Lagos' apology/explanation accepted? Dr Ariyo should consult a good lawyer. I don't know the circumstances of the statement by Dr Ariyo, but in view of provocative statements about ownership of Lagos by some Igbos, and their insult and abuse of Oba of Lagos, any Igbo that contests ownership of Lagos with Yorubas deserves whatever he gets from a mob action in Lagos. And this includes some people on these forums.

 
"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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He might also also be daft  because a forensics of his computers can reveal the fabrication claims.   
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Date:Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:00 PM
Subject:[NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

 
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"Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT
apologize
for HIS views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The

allegations and accusations against him MUST
be CONTESTED.
The Texas Medical Board as
well as Attorney General MUST
listen to
BOTH sides.  That is the ONLY FAIR  road to
JUSTICE.‎" - Leye Ige. 

Emphasis mine in some of the instances above.

Are the tone and implication of the statement above not significantly different ‎from the one below? One is saying he needed not to apologise for HIS views while the other is saying those were not HIS views but a fabrication! From the same source!
Which should we hold on to? We shouldn't condone the type of unacceptable utterances attributed to Dr Ariyo, a medical practitioner, in the bastion of civilisation like the USA!
And if he says his system was hacked into or anything like that, we must remember that he's based in the US and not in Nigeria where anything goes. The facts of this matter can be easily established by IT experts. 
What we should be calling for is a proper and thorough investigation, not tribal signatures of support for the man alleged to have issued the unacceptably hateful words.
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"My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”. This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc. Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued. The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all."----Dr. Ariyo
 
 
"Statements were made by both sides". Dr. Ariyo. 
 
Dear Dr. H. Ariyo:
 
Care to share with the public the statements made by both sides? You were quoted. You should quote the other side with the same specificity as you were quoted. How can anyone misconstrue what you said or meant when you just admitted that you made a statement that could be misconstrued? What exactly did you say that is short of wishing, like many of your type, that all Igbo are massacred? Are you not related to Adekunle, the butcher of Igbo in the Nigerian war? Have you murdered any Igbo in your clinic? How many? 
And I am
 
Ezeana Igirigi Achusim
Odi-Isaa
Nwa Dim Orioha 
 




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"Statements were made by both sides". Dr. Ariyo. 

Dear Dr. H. Ariyo:

Care to share with the public the statements made by both sides? You were quoted. You should quote the other side with the same specificity as you were quoted. How can anyone misconstrue what you said or meant when you just admitted that you made a statement that could be misconstrued? What exactly did you say that is short of wishing, like many of your type, that all Igbo are massacred? Are you not related to Adekunle, the butcher of Igbo in the Nigerian war? Have you murdered any Igbo in your clinic? How many? 

And I am

Ezeana Igirigi Achusim
Odi-Isaa
Nwa Dim Orioha 

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Is this not WHY we are asking for a PUBLIC HEARING? That was also WHY the petition was organized. So we will know the TRUTH--both as to the veracity of the claim as well as its LEGALITY--the fabricators are DEFINITELY NOT AWARE that such speech is PROTECTED by the HIGHEST COURT OF THE LAND; which would be WHY their fabrication is wound around it. So, forget about the "tribal" stuff--"tribe" is NOT in my own dictionary--- let's go fopr what you call investigation and what I call PUBLIC HEARING.
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [OmoOdua] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding
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Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 11:40 PM
bastion of civilisation like the USA!And if he says his system was
hacked into or anything like that, we must remember that
he's based in the US and not in Nigeria where anything
goes. The facts of this matter can be easily established by
IT experts. What we should be calling for is a proper and
thorough investigation, not tribal signatures of support for
the man alleged to have issued the unacceptably hateful
words.





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But you said the man should NOT and NEED NOT apologise for HIS views!!! Now the man is denying HIS views and you're the same person broadcasting the denial like you made a rare discovery!!!
And‎ whether public or private hearing, you thought that the investigators of this matter would not do justice? ‎Is it being done in Nigeria? As far as the civilised world is concerned, the simple investigation that needs to be conducted is if Dr Ariyo (a medical doctor, in the US) truly issued those words. And that would be a technological investigation since he's now claiming his system was hacked. What has a "public hearing" got to do with that??  Is it so as to turn it into a Roforofo scene of tribal altercations, placards, etc? 

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"Is it so as to turn it into a Roforofo scene of tribal altercations, placards, etc?" . . . . Segun Sanni

Good question for those calling for demonstrations (for and against) in Dr Ariyo's clinic.

 
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

Kolawole Onifade

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Threatening an innocent man's career for making a statement one way or the other on a burning political issue is vindictive and in bad taste!

But our brothers from the East see nothing wrong in this. 

Maybe those clamoring for their deportation from their land are right after all.


Kola/

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On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, "'Wharf A. Snake' via AfricanWorldForum" <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ayo,

... And if he murdered igbo under his care that is fine by you, right?

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On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:48 PM, 'Ayo Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ola,

Before one apologizes for a statement (even if only for peace sake and not that one regrets the statement), one must assess the possibility of the apology being accepted. The folks that are after Dr Ariyo are not refined individuals that will accept apology. Was Oba of Lagos' apology/explanation accepted? Dr Ariyo should consult a good lawyer. I don't know the circumstances of the statement by Dr Ariyo, but in view of provocative statements about ownership of Lagos by some Igbos, and their insult and abuse of Oba of Lagos, any Igbo that contests ownership of Lagos with Yorubas deserves whatever he gets from a mob action in Lagos. And this includes some people on these forums.

 
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Ejo,

If is the active word here.

Is there any concrete proof of such.

Why base an allegation on conjecture?

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You are a foolish fellow. Who cares about leading a dysfunctional country Nigeria. Ndi Igbo are doing fine and very vibrant worldwide.
Never again would anybody insult Ndi Igbo and get away with it. We Ndi Igbo will deal with that bastard Native Doctor Abraham Ayiro or whatever very decisively. In USA, we are fully established and connected. Again, Never again.
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Segun Sanni,
I still maintain that he ought not and should not apologize--even though that is moot as his detractors have already said they won't accept any apology.
The PURPOSE of a Public Hearing is to allow and enable "interested parties" to make their case.If not, the Texas Board may have a rule as to "administrative hearing", sort of in-house; the Attorney General may also decide similarly--so sir, this is NOT about "placards". And I REPEAT--what he was accused of writing is PROTECTED--of course they were not aware of this STUPIDLY thinking that they can whip up sentiments on "hate speech".
Dr. Ariyo may have aired his personal views, fabricated or not BUT such views(fabricated or not) also fall on other Yoruba persons, who have been vicariously accused--for this is all about Yoruba-Igbo relations.
So, sir, a Public hearing is the way to go--in any case, such a Public Hearing will be under the US laws and its enforcement. So there is nothing to fear.
Professor Aluko was once a VICTIM; now it is Dr. Ariyo--WHO KNOWS THE NEXT YORUBA VICTIM? So we are dealing with a group of igbo cyber-predators who will stop at nothing to attempt to destroy the reputation of any Yoruba that is not in political alignment with them. Professor Aluko's was based on his corrections of distortions of history of the Nigeria-Biafra war, among others; Dr. Ariyo's is now based on his support for the Oba of Lagos(another Yoruba-Igbo conflict). So, EVERY Yoruba who had or have or is taking a stand against these distortions are already in danger. And here you are reducing it to "placards"?
In case, you don't know, this has GONE BEYOND Dr. Ariyo; apologies or not.
Leye Ige
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But you said the man should NOT and NEED NOT
apologise for HIS views!!! Now the man is denying HIS views
and you're the same person broadcasting the denial like
you made a rare discovery!!!And‎ whether public or private
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Segun Sanni,
I still maintain that he ought not and should not apologize--even though that is moot as his detractors have already said they won't accept any apology.
The PURPOSE of a Public Hearing is to allow and enable "interested parties" to make their case.If not, the Texas Board may have a rule as to "administrative hearing", sort of in-house; the Attorney General may also decide similarly--so sir, this is NOT about "placards". And I REPEAT--what he was accused of writing is PROTECTED--of course they were not aware of this STUPIDLY thinking that they can whip up sentiments on "hate speech".
Dr. Ariyo may have aired his personal views, fabricated or not BUT such views(fabricated or not) also fall on other Yoruba persons, who have been vicariously accused--for this is all about Yoruba-Igbo relations.
So, sir, a Public hearing is the way to go--in any case, such a Public Hearing will be under the US laws and its enforcement. So there is nothing to fear.
Professor Aluko was once a VICTIM; Afis was a VICTIM; now it is Dr. Ariyo--WHO KNOWS THE NEXT YORUBA VICTIM? So we are dealing with a group of igbo cyber-predators who will stop at nothing to attempt to destroy the reputation of any Yoruba that is not in political alignment with them. Professor Aluko's was based on his corrections of distortions of history of the Nigeria-Biafra war, among others; Afis' was based on his sharp critiques of the Igbo; Dr. Ariyo's is now based on his support for the Oba of Lagos(another Yoruba-Igbo conflict). So, EVERY Yoruba who had or have or is taking a stand against these distortions are already in danger; even as there had and have been NO Yoruba reciprocity in these actions by the Igbo, in spite of all the abuses and negativities heaped on their Yoruba persons as well as the entire Nationality!!! And here you are reducing it to "placards"?
In case, you don't know, this has GONE BEYOND Dr. Ariyo; apologies or not.
Leye Ige
--------------------------------------------
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But you said the man should NOT and NEED NOT
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and you're the same person broadcasting the denial like
you made a rare discovery!!!And‎ whether public or private
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‎"Threatening an INNOCENT  man's career for making a statement ONE WAY OR THE OTHER on a burning political issue is vindictive and in bad taste!‎ But our brothers from the East see nothing wrong in this. MAYBE THOSE CLAMOURING FOR THEIR DEPORTATION FROM THEIR LAND ARE RIGHT AFTER ALL" - Kolawole Onifade. 

Has Nigeria always been like this for  supposedly educated men ‎to hold and freely express base tribal sentiments and opinions in public? Hateful opinions bordering on the justification/celebration of genocide! A medical doctor? Right on US soil? Wow! 
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My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”.  This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc.  Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued.  The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all. To all the people affected by the original debate or subsequent computer distortions, I hereby apologize. No matter what, these stories are offensive and highly regrettable.

 I condemn these computer fabricators in their entirety. I further condemn any killings or any acts of violence anywhere, be it South Africa or Lagos.  Humanity will judge these people harshly.  I work every day to save people’s lives from heart attacks. I am writing this letter with only 3 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours due to the nature of my work and the barrage of death threats on me and my family.  I am Yoruba, but I have worked closely with Igbos all my life without any problem.  It came as a shock to me and my Igbo colleagues, that I was being labeled as an Igbo hater.  Indeed, I appreciate the confidence and support that I have received from my friends and well wishers that know me from around the world.  I thank you for the support and your continued prayers in face of this unwarranted and relentless attack created by this false story.  My only true statement regarding the Oba of Lagos was taken out of context on completely unrelated issue and bandaged together to create this horrendous story.   To prove that I am no Igbo hater, but in fact, I am my brother’s keeper, I will take you through an improbable journey of a young Nigerian boy from a small town to the world’s pinnacle of academic medicine. I will highlight the practical examples of my close relationships with some of my Igbo colleagues all along the way.  

 At the Univeristy of Ibadan, the first Nigerian University, I received the best medical education that could be obtained under the sun.  My teachers were Yoruba, Igbos, Hausa, and Fulani. During our training, we were tribal free.  I am currently working with an old U.I colleague, who is a U.S. based Cardiologist, and an Igbo, Dr. Obi Emerole as we put together the First Lagos Cardiovascular Symposium this summer in Ikeja, Lagos.  

At Howard University Hospital, where I trained as a medical resident and chief resident, my Igbo friends were Dr. John Agwunobi and Dr. Ahagtotu.  Dr. Agwunobi later became the secretary of health to Governor Jeb Bush in Florida, and, Dr. Ahaghotu is now the head of Urology and Associate Dean at the Institution.  We were all interns, bound together as Nigerians, without tribal affiliations.  We ate together, were on call together, and partied together on Saturday nights whenever we had time.  

 In 1995, I was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, where I was simultaneously enrolled for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health.  I reached out to all the Nigerians in the Boston area institutions and we had regular meetings as “one Nigeria.”  It was that year in Boston that I actually met Professor Wole Soyinka and the late Professor Chinua Achebe.

At the Johns Hopkins Hospital, regarded as the number one hospital in the United States, I was an Interventional Cardiology fellow.  My immediate senior colleague, Dr. Camellus Ezeagwu was Igbo.  I went to his house quite often for some “Fufu and goat meat” that his beautiful wife regularly prepared for us.

The best man at my wedding was an Igbo man.  Our families enjoy time together and vacation together.  I have served in various capacities under the umbrella of the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas (ANPA). I was humbled to be the keynote speaker at the recent end of the year event. I have also served in our communities and churches encouraging our youth to pursue a carrier in medicine.  I have served as head, chairman, director, and secretary in various capacities in different Nigerian organizations that included Yorubas and Igbos for the past 30 years, and not once has anyone said that I hate one group or the other. I currently serve as mentor for lots of young Nigerian doctors. I help them get into residency and fellowship around the country (Yorubas and Igbos alike). As we speak, I have several Yorubas and Igbos students rotating under my service at the hospital.

Nigeria is my country and I am proud of her. She gave me a lot and I intend to continue to give back. I will not let some people create a wedge between me and this country that I love. I believe my only sin was the support that I gave to the Oba of Lagos. As a son of a monarch myself, I have utmost respect for our native rulers. Thus, the position that I took during the debate leading to the highly spirited Lagos State gubernatorial election might have offended some people. For me, this is a lot of price to pay when I am not even a politician. It also shows how far people will go for payback. But, please, this is not a game for me. I have my plate full in USA. I would rather use this time to save lives and improve the health of people, or increase the chances of other Nigerian kids getting to where I am today rather than responding to false stories designed to get back at me for my different political position.  At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace.

I hope my story clears some ambiguities regarding this unfortunate computer manipulated and generated story.  Although, it hurts a lot, I will forgive them (the fabricators). We want every Nigerian to live in peace and harmony. We seek a more tolerant Nigeria, a vibrant Nigeria where there is freedom and liberty, where no one is inferior or superior to the other. We need to band together and start building our nation towards prosperity and a brighter future as we move forward to a more perfect Nigeria.  God bless Nigeria.  God bless us all.

 

 Abraham Ariyo


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My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”.  This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc.  Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued.  The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all. To all the people affected by the original debate or subsequent computer distortions, I hereby apologize. No matter what, these stories are offensive and highly regrettable.

 I condemn these computer fabricators in their entirety. I further condemn any killings or any acts of violence anywhere, be it South Africa or Lagos.  Humanity will judge these people harshly.  I work every day to save people’s lives from heart attacks. I am writing this letter with only 3 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours due to the nature of my work and the barrage of death threats on me and my family.  I am Yoruba, but I have worked closely with Igbos all my life without any problem.  It came as a shock to me and my Igbo colleagues, that I was being labeled as an Igbo hater.  Indeed, I appreciate the confidence and support that I have received from my friends and well wishers that know me from around the world.  I thank you for the support and your continued prayers in face of this unwarranted and relentless attack created by this false story.  My only true statement regarding the Oba of Lagos was taken out of context on completely unrelated issue and bandaged together to create this horrendous story.   To prove that I am no Igbo hater, but in fact, I am my brother’s keeper, I will take you through an improbable journey of a young Nigerian boy from a small town to the world’s pinnacle of academic medicine. I will highlight the practical examples of my close relationships with some of my Igbo colleagues all along the way.  

 At the Univeristy of Ibadan, the first Nigerian University, I received the best medical education that could be obtained under the sun.  My teachers were Yoruba, Igbos, Hausa, and Fulani. During our training, we were tribal free.  I am currently working with an old U.I colleague, who is a U.S. based Cardiologist, and an Igbo, Dr. Obi Emerole as we put together the First Lagos Cardiovascular Symposium this summer in Ikeja, Lagos.  

At Howard University Hospital, where I trained as a medical resident and chief resident, my Igbo friends were Dr. John Agwunobi and Dr. Ahagtotu.  Dr. Agwunobi later became the secretary of health to Governor Jeb Bush in Florida, and, Dr. Ahaghotu is now the head of Urology and Associate Dean at the Institution.  We were all interns, bound together as Nigerians, without tribal affiliations.  We ate together, were on call together, and partied together on Saturday nights whenever we had time.  

 In 1995, I was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, where I was simultaneously enrolled for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health.  I reached out to all the Nigerians in the Boston area institutions and we had regular meetings as “one Nigeria.”  It was that year in Boston that I actually met Professor Wole Soyinka and the late Professor Chinua Achebe.

At the Johns Hopkins Hospital, regarded as the number one hospital in the United States, I was an Interventional Cardiology fellow.  My immediate senior colleague, Dr. Camellus Ezeagwu was Igbo.  I went to his house quite often for some “Fufu and goat meat” that his beautiful wife regularly prepared for us.

The best man at my wedding was an Igbo man.  Our families enjoy time together and vacation together.  I have served in various capacities under the umbrella of the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas (ANPA). I was humbled to be the keynote speaker at the recent end of the year event. I have also served in our communities and churches encouraging our youth to pursue a carrier in medicine.  I have served as head, chairman, director, and secretary in various capacities in different Nigerian organizations that included Yorubas and Igbos for the past 30 years, and not once has anyone said that I hate one group or the other. I currently serve as mentor for lots of young Nigerian doctors. I help them get into residency and fellowship around the country (Yorubas and Igbos alike). As we speak, I have several Yorubas and Igbos students rotating under my service at the hospital.

Nigeria is my country and I am proud of her. She gave me a lot and I intend to continue to give back. I will not let some people create a wedge between me and this country that I love. I believe my only sin was the support that I gave to the Oba of Lagos. As a son of a monarch myself, I have utmost respect for our native rulers. Thus, the position that I took during the debate leading to the highly spirited Lagos State gubernatorial election might have offended some people. For me, this is a lot of price to pay when I am not even a politician. It also shows how far people will go for payback. But, please, this is not a game for me. I have my plate full in USA. I would rather use this time to save lives and improve the health of people, or increase the chances of other Nigerian kids getting to where I am today rather than responding to false stories designed to get back at me for my different political position.  At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace.

I hope my story clears some ambiguities regarding this unfortunate computer manipulated and generated story.  Although, it hurts a lot, I will forgive them (the fabricators). We want every Nigerian to live in peace and harmony. We seek a more tolerant Nigeria, a vibrant Nigeria where there is freedom and liberty, where no one is inferior or superior to the other. We need to band together and start building our nation towards prosperity and a brighter future as we move forward to a more perfect Nigeria.  God bless Nigeria.  God bless us all.

 

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My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”.  This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc.  Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued.  The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all. To all the people affected by the original debate or subsequent computer distortions, I hereby apologize. No matter what, these stories are offensive and highly regrettable.

 I condemn these computer fabricators in their entirety. I further condemn any killings or any acts of violence anywhere, be it South Africa or Lagos.  Humanity will judge these people harshly.  I work every day to save people’s lives from heart attacks. I am writing this letter with only 3 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours due to the nature of my work and the barrage of death threats on me and my family.  I am Yoruba, but I have worked closely with Igbos all my life without any problem.  It came as a shock to me and my Igbo colleagues, that I was being labeled as an Igbo hater.  Indeed, I appreciate the confidence and support that I have received from my friends and well wishers that know me from around the world.  I thank you for the support and your continued prayers in face of this unwarranted and relentless attack created by this false story.  My only true statement regarding the Oba of Lagos was taken out of context on completely unrelated issue and bandaged together to create this horrendous story.   To prove that I am no Igbo hater, but in fact, I am my brother’s keeper, I will take you through an improbable journey of a young Nigerian boy from a small town to the world’s pinnacle of academic medicine. I will highlight the practical examples of my close relationships with some of my Igbo colleagues all along the way.  

 At the Univeristy of Ibadan, the first Nigerian University, I received the best medical education that could be obtained under the sun.  My teachers were Yoruba, Igbos, Hausa, and Fulani. During our training, we were tribal free.  I am currently working with an old U.I colleague, who is a U.S. based Cardiologist, and an Igbo, Dr. Obi Emerole as we put together the First Lagos Cardiovascular Symposium this summer in Ikeja, Lagos.  

At Howard University Hospital, where I trained as a medical resident and chief resident, my Igbo friends were Dr. John Agwunobi and Dr. Ahagtotu.  Dr. Agwunobi later became the secretary of health to Governor Jeb Bush in Florida, and, Dr. Ahaghotu is now the head of Urology and Associate Dean at the Institution.  We were all interns, bound together as Nigerians, without tribal affiliations.  We ate together, were on call together, and partied together on Saturday nights whenever we had time.  

 In 1995, I was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, where I was simultaneously enrolled for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health.  I reached out to all the Nigerians in the Boston area institutions and we had regular meetings as “one Nigeria.”  It was that year in Boston that I actually met Professor Wole Soyinka and the late Professor Chinua Achebe.

At the Johns Hopkins Hospital, regarded as the number one hospital in the United States, I was an Interventional Cardiology fellow.  My immediate senior colleague, Dr. Camellus Ezeagwu was Igbo.  I went to his house quite often for some “Fufu and goat meat” that his beautiful wife regularly prepared for us.

The best man at my wedding was an Igbo man.  Our families enjoy time together and vacation together.  I have served in various capacities under the umbrella of the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas (ANPA). I was humbled to be the keynote speaker at the recent end of the year event. I have also served in our communities and churches encouraging our youth to pursue a carrier in medicine.  I have served as head, chairman, director, and secretary in various capacities in different Nigerian organizations that included Yorubas and Igbos for the past 30 years, and not once has anyone said that I hate one group or the other. I currently serve as mentor for lots of young Nigerian doctors. I help them get into residency and fellowship around the country (Yorubas and Igbos alike). As we speak, I have several Yorubas and Igbos students rotating under my service at the hospital.

Nigeria is my country and I am proud of her. She gave me a lot and I intend to continue to give back. I will not let some people create a wedge between me and this country that I love. I believe my only sin was the support that I gave to the Oba of Lagos. As a son of a monarch myself, I have utmost respect for our native rulers. Thus, the position that I took during the debate leading to the highly spirited Lagos State gubernatorial election might have offended some people. For me, this is a lot of price to pay when I am not even a politician. It also shows how far people will go for payback. But, please, this is not a game for me. I have my plate full in USA. I would rather use this time to save lives and improve the health of people, or increase the chances of other Nigerian kids getting to where I am today rather than responding to false stories designed to get back at me for my different political position.  At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace.

I hope my story clears some ambiguities regarding this unfortunate computer manipulated and generated story.  Although, it hurts a lot, I will forgive them (the fabricators). We want every Nigerian to live in peace and harmony. We seek a more tolerant Nigeria, a vibrant Nigeria where there is freedom and liberty, where no one is inferior or superior to the other. We need to band together and start building our nation towards prosperity and a brighter future as we move forward to a more perfect Nigeria.  God bless Nigeria.  God bless us all.

 

 Abraham Ariyo


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Kola,

That is what an investigation will reveal. This is not Nigeria where everything is swept under the carpet and impunity reigns supreme. 

WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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Those who gave Hitler the benefit of the doubt were buried in aushwitz.


WS - A revered prince of Mushin.

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The man said he did not write the statements.  I can relate to what happened to him.  Last week, my email and Facebook accounts were hacked.  Fortunately, my friends were too smart to fall for the crooks. 

Let's give him the benefits of the doubt. 



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Threatening an innocent man's career for making a statement one way or the other on a burning political issue is vindictive and in bad taste!

But our brothers from the East see nothing wrong in this. 

Maybe those clamoring for their deportation from their land are right after all.


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After meeting and celebrating life with all this great and high achieving people of Igbo nation he still went on to call for genocide against Ndigbo.

Folks I am happy he is realizing that you don't make a hate speech in the USA and get away with it as you do in Nigeria. 


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I wouldn't join anyone to engage in inter tribal warfare ‎or exchange of internecine hate comments. For those who don't think it's beneath them/us to do so in the Twenty First century, we can only wish them luck. 
If we say the man should not apologise for his hate comments, why are we then helping him to deny making the statement at the same time? 
And if we say he shouldn't apologise for the statement, it means we find not‎hing wrong in the statement and we can make such utterances too if we were in the doctor's shoes. But I shouldn't be surprised. I remember that when someone said whoever didn't like his personal choice in the last election should jump in the lagoon, you said the mention of lagoon had the same meaning and connotation as the royal father who threatened to throw people in the lagoon if they didn't vote for his handpicked candidate. 
The elections are over. Please let's stop these divisive comments. Let's cool down the rhetoric, if just a little bit. Let's  ‎heal and reunite our country. 

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This seemingly (un)"mea culpa" by Dr Ariyo came about due to the firestorm, such unguarded drivel in a moment of obviously infantile exuberance that dredged up the man's latent bigotry, has caused!
I sure feel pity for the man and hope folks will move on and stop short of the petition drive to TMB! 
Let his conscience ( if he has one) torment him from here on, because given his fruitful contacts with the Igbo for his entire life and career, his education and exposure-as he has confessed- there is no justification or rationale, even in a moment of temporary insanity, for him to wish ill on the Igbo simply because of their supposed pursuit of legitimate ambition in Nigeria and elsewhere! But then, as they say "you can put lipstick on a pig...", otherwise I pray the bigoted thought ascribed to him on Twitter is the "handiwork of his detractors" for his unexplained views in support of the position of the Oba of Lagos; and every body saw what the position of the Oba was on video. 
So even in this penitence it was not beyond this man to appeal to tribal sentiments and yet he wants us to believe he is no bigot and a xenophobe or is he merely operating under a complex! Chai, Chai, Chai....how so sad!!!
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Chika Onyeani is an irresponsible online news-panderer.
Show me any Corrupt regime in Nigeria, and I will show you Chika Onyeani the butt licker.
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On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Vin Otuonye <vincent...@msn.com> wrote:

Folks:
 
As you guys know I was born and raised in Lagos. Unlike most of you guys here who did not quite mingle with other Nigerians, I consider myself very luck. I am of triple heritage. I am Igbo, I am Yoruba and I am Nigerian. Because of my upbringing, I speak fluent Yoruba and assimilate with the people. I want to help Dr. Abraham Ayilo out. If anyone reading this email know the man, tell him to get himself up; get out of his hiding and make an unreserved apology for his rant. There are many way he can make his apology. I'll suggest he may want to consider using the same medium he used - face book - to make his apology. The other medium he can use is by calling the President of ICAN - ICAN being Igbo Community Association of Dallas Texas and asking to speak to Ndigbo in Dallas Texas. He can go to their monthly meeting and make an unreserved apology. We all make mistakes and we should learn to be forgiving of others when they wronged us.
 
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: NIGERIAN (YORUBA) CARDIOLOGIST IN DALLAS, USA, CALLS FOR SLAUGHTER OF THE IGBO IN NIGERIA

Chika's journalism has always been irresponsible. This particular headline is not only irresponsible, it is stupid. Why "Nigerian (Yoruba) Cardiologist" and not "Nigerian Cardiologist"? After all it is all the ethnic groups in Nigeria that hate Igbos, and from the name of the Cardiologist, his ethnic group is obvious.

 
"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 

Ayo Ojutalayo


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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: NIGERIAN (YORUBA) CARDIOLOGIST IN DALLAS, USA, CALLS FOR SLAUGHTER OF THE IGBO IN NIGERIA

Chika:

While Dr. Ariyo should not have wrote what was ascribed to him because it lacks sensitivity, but it does not appear to be a direct call for the slaughter of Igbo in Nigeria.  His statement could be considered as "speculative." That is, what could happen. Thus, your headline is very misleading. It amounts to irresponsible journalism to say the least.

The Oha 1
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Vin Otuonye, there goes another of your lies!
You are not Yoruba and you don't speak "fluent" Yoruba. 

I still challenge you to explain the "Hate" in Dr Ariyo's comment, but as an Efulefu igbo, you chickened out as usual.

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Dr Asagwara, if you epitomize "educated Nigerian", then it is wasteful knowledge to have or be proud of.

You this bigot who always jump up if per chance a Yoruba man can be destroyed. Why don't you outline what actually can be construed as "Hate speech" in Dr Ariyo's comment? 
Secondly, instead of insulting me, tell us what can be litigated in the speech.
You cannot do it, you just see  a headline filled with hate for a Yoruba, like an igbo monkey you jump into the fray.

Dr Asagwara, I still challenge you, with all your useless doctorate degree, to tell us the "Hate" in Dr Ariyo's comment.
Just Mano-e-Mano, Afis with no doctorate degree will floor your Igbo useless and brainless ass. 
Olodo guy!
Read books no read commonsense.
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Afis:

 

The fact that you stood by your crooked mirror and saw another man’s face instead of yours gives me some concern for your state of mind. Are you really ok or should I call your family doctor? Or would you prefer that I call your Yoruba Babalawo given how fetish you are?

 

You see, an ignoramus is as ignoramus does and you have epitomized that ogre. Since you know not what constitutes hate speech, no surprise there. But I will not be the one to educate you on it. Take my friendly suggestion to go register for a basic course in it at any two year college near you.

 

Like I said, your irredentist atavistic Yoruba brother has gone into hiding while you that has nothing to lose remain bawling in the forums on his behalf. The shit disturber that you are.

 

Cheers.

 

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I already stood by the mirror, Dr Asagwara, and guess what?

I saw your face staring back ignorantly.

 

What you posted below says nothing, teaches nothing, just as an ignoramus would have done.

As an ignoramus who read books but have no commonsense to help apply logic into books you read........and as a village Igbo who sauntered into town wearing a Bantu wrapper.....Please Dr Asagwara, teach Afis nah.

Post here on cyberspaces and explain what constitutes "hate speech" in Ariyo's comment, and how it may be used in court against Dr Ariyo.

 

I am waiting while I keep smiling at your Ignorance Face in my crooked mirror.

Shikena 

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Afis:

 

If you really want to see what “a village ignoramus” looks like, go stand before that crooked mirror in your living room. After, you may have to take basic course in a two-year college to know what is and not, free speech which is where you are hinging your idiocy on.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Subject: [TalkNigeria] Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding
 

Dr Asagwara, yours below is that of a village Ignoramus.

What legal repercussions?

Here you go again, you don't get tired of taking a loser's side?

Afis

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The only sensible point in your rant below is that the idiotic doctor’s apology will not be accepted. And going into hiding will not save him from the legal repercussions that will follow in the wake of his call for the killings of Ndi-Igbo. That road to legal redress is already in progress. Your consul to him to consult a good lawyer, he should heed.

 

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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

 

Ola,

 

Before one apologizes for a statement (even if only for peace sake and not that one regrets the statement), one must assess the possibility of the apology being accepted. The folks that are after Dr Ariyo are not refined individuals that will accept apology. Was Oba of Lagos' apology/explanation accepted? Dr Ariyo should consult a good lawyer. I don't know the circumstances of the statement by Dr Ariyo, but in view of provocative statements about ownership of Lagos by some Igbos, and their insult and abuse of Oba of Lagos, any Igbo that contests ownership of Lagos with Yorubas deserves whatever he gets from a mob action in Lagos. And this includes some people on these forums.

 

 

"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 


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"My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”. This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc. Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued. The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all."----Dr. Ariyo



Afis comment: That's what the Inyanminrins engaged in.
Pure blackmail.
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Tajudeen et al:

This lengthy statement from Dr Abraham Ariyo is more than sufficient
to bring this unsavoury matter to a close. He has addressed all the concerns that I have on this matter.

I am proud of the way and manner Dr Ariyo has handled this sensitive, divisive and potentially career and character damaging episode in his life.

I am equally proud that the vast majority of the commentators on both aisles of this debate appreciated the gravity of the issue.

We should be spending our time to build a more ethnically cohesive nation as envisaged by the founders of Nigeria regardless of whether we live and work in Nigeria or abroad.

It is our sacred duty to do so!

Case closed!

Bye,

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'At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace.'

What is the nature of the beast in man that we hone in on whoever is deemed weak - to maim, kill and destroy. A lot people have lost their sheen from this incident - and for me it is not Dr Ariyo!
 
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Hey,

I just signed the petition "Texas Medical Board: Public Hearing on Dr. Adeniran Ariyo" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

Our goal is to reach 1000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

https://www.change.org/p/texas-medical-board-public-hearing-on-dr-adeniran-ariyo?recruiter=282184166&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive

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Dr. Kassim: 

I hope common sense will prevail and this will get "closed" as you have suggested. 

It is sad to think that we have people amongst us that will be happy at the opportunity of destroying someone's life because of a bad comment. Not action, but comment. Haba! Na wa for those people o. 
Thanks,
Tajudeen Raji 

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Judging by your very well known unusual definition of right and wrong in public communication, I'm not surprised that your definition of "dead" and "alive" is following in the same manner. It's a waste of time, effort and reputation to argue with you. Lol. 

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Segun Sanni is always where Dead people make their stand.

If you talking about Alive, he talks of Dead people.
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Ola:
 
Despite the lengthy statement, I think Dr. Abraham Adeniran Ariyo is conflicted. However, for the interest of peace, I am willing to let it go.
 
If you recall last night, like you, I called for the doctor to apologize. I also asked Ndigbo to accept the apology if he apologize and move on. But after reading the doctor's lengthy statement, I have my doubt and I truly wonder if the doctor is sincere or if he's truly conflicted. I said this because I simply don't understand why or how one who claim to have such Igbo friends (he stated that an Igbo man was his best man at his wedding) and Igbo colleagues would support the position or views of Oba Akiolu of Lagos that if Ndigbo did not vote for his governorship candidate, they'll drown in Lagos lagoon. It just doesn't make sense for one that claim to have Igbo friends and colleague and eats fufu with his Igbo friend to hold or support view from an errant Oba. Honestly, if any Igbo monarch had said what Oba Akiolu had said, I will never support it. I will distance myself from such xenophobic statement. This is why I think Dr. Abraham Adeniran Ariyo is conflicted.
 
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Vin:
 
I can not recall at this particular moment in which one of William Shakespeare's plays that has some lines in which the protagonist was pondering if it were ever possible to have a window or mirror to read exactly what are in the minds of human beings.
 
Until human beings acquire such skills, I believe that the best we can do is to
Continue to give others the benefit of the doubt whenever we are in doubt about their motives.
 
Dr Abraham Ariyo has provided a brief Bio of what makes him tick. Even though he is from a Royal Family in Yorubaland, what has made his career are all the teachers and mentors that have helped propel him to the top of his profession over the years. The teachers and mentors include Nigerians and non Nigerians. Amongst the Nigerians are numerous top notch Igbo Professors of Medicine who practice in Nigeria and the USA some of whom he identified in his response.
 
It would the height of hypocrisy for a man to dine and wine with his mentors and then turn around to wish that their kind be eliminated from the face of earth.
 
I have no doubt in my mind that Dr Ariyo has also been mentoring young protégés inclusive of Nigerians and non Nigerians amongst whom would likely have been several of Igbo descent, either in the past, currently or in the near future.
 
Dr Ariyo has informed us that his computer and Facebook page was hacked. I am inclined to believe him!
 
As you wrote, we should let this matter rest in the interest of peace.
There is certainly nothing positive to be gained by belabouring the issue.
 
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Ola,

Before one apologizes for a statement (even if only for peace sake and not that one regrets the statement), one must assess the possibility of the apology being accepted. The folks that are after Dr Ariyo are not refined individuals that will accept apology. Was Oba of Lagos' apology/explanation accepted? Dr Ariyo should consult a good lawyer. I don't know the circumstances of the statement by Dr Ariyo, but in view of provocative statements about ownership of Lagos by some Igbos, and their insult and abuse of Oba of Lagos, any Igbo that contests ownership of Lagos with Yorubas deserves whatever he gets from a mob action in Lagos. And this includes some people on these forums.

 
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A‎fis,
Where we're different is that certain utterances are beneath me while, to you, just anything can be said/written, no matter how foul or unseemly. 
I shouldn't ‎argue with you. Lol. 

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Segun Sanni, what are you healing from?

This is what Yoruba call "Egbo adajina"......Non-healing ulcers on a Diabetic patient's legs!

Let me hint you something, most of those info taken from Dr Ariyo's FB and twisted out of shape, were taken by his Igbo friends. 
The Igbo friends who must have "healed" like you from Tribal sores called "Egbo Adajina". Igbo friends who eat and dine with him, know his wife and kids, in fact one of these Igbos is the Godfather to a child of Dr Ariyo.
Yet not one of them will come out publicly to defend him. Did they know the implications? 
Of course they do, but those Igbo friends are on a Texan outhouse still "healing". 

I hope you are not that naive, Segun Sanni, to think in your mind that the Igbos won't try to blackmail you if for one day out of 100, you disagreed with their anti-Yoruba views.

I am not the type to be afraid, to panick, to be paranoid about anything or anyone be it Inyanminrins or other creatures, however, over the years I have received tons of hate mails sent to my home by Igbos who "discovered" my address that I never hid.

While Igbos take this Yoruba Hatred seriously and will do anything to destroy a Yoruba, most of you like Alagba Sanni still delude yourselves you can make Igbos see reason why "healing" of Tribal wounds is fait accompli.
Yep keep dreaming bro!
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Don't you know that the man is a confirmed "apiroro" pretending to be asleep ? Lol 

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Segun Sanni is always where Dead people make their stand.

If you talking about Alive, he talks of Dead people.
Waste of time.
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       Is this not WHY we are asking for a PUBLIC HEARING?
 That was also WHY the petition was organized. So we will
 know the TRUTH--both as to the veracity of the claim as well
 as its LEGALITY--the fabricators are DEFINITELY NOT AWARE
 that such speech is PROTECTED by the HIGHEST COURT OF THE
 LAND; which would be WHY their fabrication is wound around
 it. So, forget about the "tribal"
 stuff--"tribe" is NOT in my own dictionary---
 let's go fopr what you call investigation and what I
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                                    "Dr. Ariyo NEED

  NOT and MUST NOT

  apologize

  for HIS


  views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The

  allegations and

  accusations against him MUST

  be

  CONTESTED.

  The Texas Medical

  Board as

  well as Attorney

  General MUST

  listen to

  BOTH sides.  That

  is the ONLY FAIR  road to

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While Igbos take this Yoruba Hatred seriously and will do anything to destroy a Yoruba, most of you like Alagba Sanni still delude yourselves you can make Igbos see reason why "healing" of Tribal wounds is fait accompli.” Afis

 

You are a very venomous being whose every inch of life wrecks with hate and unmitigated emotional anguish against the Igbo ethnic nation of Nigeria. Each time that I have read your rant on the Igbo, what comes to my mind is your narration as an eye witness to the massacres of Ndi-Igbo in the North in 1966 and how that orgy of Igbo bloodletting gave fulfilment to your miserable life. So, there is nothing that you will ever write or say about any Igbo or generality of the Igbo that will or should faze an Igbo that has come to know how hearing or reading the word “Igbo” torments you. But I am glad that I know many Yorubas whose perceptions of Ndi-Igbo are very positive and damn antithetical to your warped minded bigoted views. You may not know this; there is usually contemptuous pathetic ending for haters like you; that perdition awaits you.

 

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Segun Sanni, what are you healing from?

This is what Yoruba call "Egbo adajina"......Non-healing ulcers on a Diabetic patient's legs!

 

Let me hint you something, most of those info taken from Dr Ariyo's FB and twisted out of shape, were taken by his Igbo friends. 

The Igbo friends who must have "healed" like you from Tribal sores called "Egbo Adajina". Igbo friends who eat and dine with him, know his wife and kids, in fact one of these Igbos is the Godfather to a child of Dr Ariyo.

Yet not one of them will come out publicly to defend him. Did they know the implications? 

Of course they do, but those Igbo friends are on a Texan outhouse still "healing". 

 

I hope you are not that naive, Segun Sanni, to think in your mind that the Igbos won't try to blackmail you if for one day out of 100, you disagreed with their anti-Yoruba views.

 

I am not the type to be afraid, to panick, to be paranoid about anything or anyone be it Inyanminrins or other creatures, however, over the years I have received tons of hate mails sent to my home by Igbos who "discovered" my address that I never hid.

 

While Igbos take this Yoruba Hatred seriously and will do anything to destroy a Yoruba, most of you like Alagba Sanni still delude yourselves you can make Igbos see reason why "healing" of Tribal wounds is fait accompli.

Yep keep dreaming bro!

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Dr Ken Asagwara, stop trying to sweeten your lies with saccharine. You must stop your blackmailing tactics.
I never told you i was happy about the Kano massacre of Igbos.
I just narrated what I witnessed, and what I thought caused it.

I explained the audacity of Igbos dancing round Sabo Ngari and Fegge outskirts, while they sing praises of Ironsi and taunt Hausa people on the killings of Sadauna and Balewa.
I further narrated how on one cloudy afternoon, as the stomach of the skies was heavy with rain, and as the Talakawas said their "asalamu alaikun" to finish their Jumaat prayer, they poured like rain floods into SaboNgari and let mayhem loosen upon the Igbos' world.
That's all I stated, I don't change my tune but I don't a liar to help butter up my Truth.

Dr Asagwara do not lie for Afis.
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They poured like rain floods into SaboNgari and let mayhem loosen upon the Igbos' world.
That's all I stated, I don't change my tune but I don't a liar to help butter up my Truth.
 
 
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Afis Odidere,
As an eye witness of this mayhem visited upon the Igbo world, you still pray for it to happen again in the 21st century Nigeria?
Afis Odidere, I wish you what you wish me, HO! HA!
“Each time that I have read your rant on the Igbo, what comes to my mind is your narration as an eye witness to the massacres of Ndi-Igbo in the North in 1966 and how that orgy of Igbo bloodletting gave fulfilment to your miserable life. So, there is nothing that you will ever write or say about any Igbo or generality of the Igbo that will or should faze an Igbo that has come to know how hearing or reading the word “Igbo” torments you.” By Maazị Prince KC.Asagwara.
Afis Odidere ,you have a problem, HO! HA!
Maazị Prince KC Asagwara asagwarala gị okwu,HO! HA!
Cha cha cha Igbo bụ Igbo kwenu!
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PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN SACK OF IGP SULEIMAN ABBA, AS A LESSON OF WHAT A MAN SOWETH, SO SHALL HE REAP
Just yesterday Tuesday 21/04/2015, news broke about the sack of the Inspector General of Police, Mr. Suleiman Abba by the outgoing government of President Goodluck Jonathan and his immediate replacement by DIG Solomon Arase. The news came as a rude shock to Nigerians bearing in mind the fact that the government has less than 6 weeks to exit power after its defeat at the Presidential polls of March 28th, 2015 by General Muhammadu Buhari (Rtd.) of the All Progressive Congress (APC).
However, to discerning observers, it was expected that there will be a backlash for the defeat of Mr. President and his party, the PDP at the polls despite the unprecedented bribery and corruption of individuals, groups, organizations, institutions of various segments of the society with humongous foreign and local currency as well as the lies, propaganda, half truths, death wish, campaign of blackmail, calumny, promotion of ethnic and religious divide policy which all ended up as a journey to no man’s land as the people resolutely and doggedly went to the polls, despite all the hiccups and exercised their franchise in determining their political destiny and rescuing the country from the clutches of misgovernance, corruption, lawlessness and impunity which pervaded the land under the present administration. To God be the glory as the people’s will triumphed with the election of Rtd. Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as the President Elect.
But the sack of Mr. Suleiman Abba was the least expected going by his antecedents and record in office as an IGP who followed in the tradition of his predecessors by repeatedly assaulting the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria in utter violation of his oath of office just to assert his loyalty to the Goodluck Jonathan administration.
Among his many misdeeds, one recollects with shame, how he unconstitutionally withdrew the security details of the speaker of the House of Representatives, Right Honourable Aminu Tambuwal on October 30th 2014 on the basis that in his own words, he no longer recognizes the speakership of Honourable Tambuwal because he defected from the PDP to the APC. This act of lawlessness and impunity by IGP Suleiman Abba was roundly condemned by patriots and lovers of democracy not only in Nigeria, but all over the world because the position of speaker of the house of representatives is the prerogative of the members of the house through election and he can only be removed via impeachment or by judgement of a court of competent jurisdiction based on incontrovertible evidence of abuse of office and not by a pronouncement of the IGP. He also went further in his assignment of illegality of confirming his absolute loyalty to the powers that be, by unconstitutionally attempting to usurp the functions of the courts by interpreting the constitution to justify his act of ignominy.
One also remembers how before the Ekiti and Osun states gubernatorial elections in June and August 2014, Mr. Suleiman Abba issued unconstitutional orders of a 72 hours lockdown of the states prior to the elections and his now infamous illegal warning of, keep a distance of 300 meters away from polling booths after voting to electorates of which, both were condemned and voters threatened to resist, which he eventually rescinded because of the fear of popular resistance and threat to public peace which his inciting statement could trigger.
We as well recollect how policemen allegedly acting under the instruction of now ex-IGP Suleiman Abba committed treason against the Federal Republic of Nigeria on November 20th 2014 by desecrating the hallowed chambers of the national assembly through invasion, locking out some honourable members, tear gassing others and working in cahoots with some undemocratic elements both outside and within who are members of the house of representatives in their satanic and illegal plot to impeach the speaker of the House of Representatives, Right Honourable Aminu Tambuwal which failed due to the vigilance and resistance of determined defenders of democracy members of the house. But the truth of the matter is that by these acts, Mr. Suleiman Abba had established a reputation as a lawless officer whose loyalty was not to the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria but “personally” to the government of the day just like his predecessors and this was shameful, illegal, unconstitutional, undemocratic and a national embarrassment.
Again, in the prelude to the 2015 general elections, Mr. Suleiman in keying into the tradition of illegality and unconstitutionality of his predecessors issued a warning to voters to keep a distance of 300 meters away from the polling booths after voting even when there was no law authorizing him to do that. But trust Nigerians, they rose up in one voice and condemned the illegality and provocativeness of the order which forced Mr. Abba to eat the humble pie of rescinding himself.
Since the removal of ex-IGP Mr. Suleiman Abba yesterday, a lot of reasons have been adduced by the Nigerian public for President Jonathan’s action which has largely being viewed as vendetta against him for refusing to play ball of compromise during the elections by discharging his responsibilities professionally and impartially unlike the usual practice of blind loyalty to the government at the expense of his constitutional oath. Be that as it may, one can only sympathize with Mr. Abba because he was the architect of his own misfortune which has made him to be the number one scapegoat of the Goodluck Jonathan administration Presidential election defeat.
If from the day he was appointed as IGP till yesterday when he was sacked, Mr. Suleiman Abba had exhibited professionalism and impartiality in the discharge of his constitutional responsibilities, nobody would have impugned disloyalty to the government in his actions of professionalism during the elections and by now, even though sacked, he would have written his name in Gold as a fine officer and gentleman.
But today, Mr. Suleiman Abba is a victim of a monstrous system he helped perpetuate as he has being sacrificed on the altar of expediency just like he helped sacrifice others and like we say, what a man soweth, so shall he reap. Therefore, let no one weep for Mr. Suleiman Abba.

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PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN SACK OF IGP SULEIMAN ABBA, AS A LESSON OF WHAT A MAN SOWETH, SO SHALL HE REAP
Just yesterday Tuesday 21/04/2015, news broke about the sack of the Inspector General of Police, Mr. Suleiman Abba by the outgoing government of President Goodluck Jonathan and his immediate replacement by DIG Solomon Arase. The news came as a rude shock to Nigerians bearing in mind the fact that the government has less than 6 weeks to exit power after its defeat at the Presidential polls of March 28th, 2015 by General Muhammadu Buhari (Rtd.) of the All Progressive Congress (APC).
However, to discerning observers, it was expected that there will be a backlash for the defeat of Mr. President and his party, the PDP at the polls despite the unprecedented bribery and corruption of individuals, groups, organizations, institutions of various segments of the society with humongous foreign and local currency as well as the lies, propaganda, half truths, death wish, campaign of blackmail, calumny, promotion of ethnic and religious divide policy which all ended up as a journey to no man’s land as the people resolutely and doggedly went to the polls, despite all the hiccups and exercised their franchise in determining their political destiny and rescuing the country from the clutches of misgovernance, corruption, lawlessness and impunity which pervaded the land under the present administration. To God be the glory as the people’s will triumphed with the election of Rtd. Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as the President Elect.
But the sack of Mr. Suleiman Abba was the least expected going by his antecedents and record in office as an IGP who followed in the tradition of his predecessors by repeatedly assaulting the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria in utter violation of his oath of office just to assert his loyalty to the Goodluck Jonathan administration.
Among his many misdeeds, one recollects with shame, how he unconstitutionally withdrew the security details of the speaker of the House of Representatives, Right Honourable Aminu Tambuwal on October 30th 2014 on the basis that in his own words, he no longer recognizes the speakership of Honourable Tambuwal because he defected from the PDP to the APC. This act of lawlessness and impunity by IGP Suleiman Abba was roundly condemned by patriots and lovers of democracy not only in Nigeria, but all over the world because the position of speaker of the house of representatives is the prerogative of the members of the house through election and he can only be removed via impeachment or by judgement of a court of competent jurisdiction based on incontrovertible evidence of abuse of office and not by a pronouncement of the IGP. He also went further in his assignment of illegality of confirming his absolute loyalty to the powers that be, by unconstitutionally attempting to usurp the functions of the courts by interpreting the constitution to justify his act of ignominy.
One also remembers how before the Ekiti and Osun states gubernatorial elections in June and August 2014, Mr. Suleiman Abba issued unconstitutional orders of a 72 hours lockdown of the states prior to the elections and his now infamous illegal warning of, keep a distance of 300 meters away from polling booths after voting to electorates of which, both were condemned and voters threatened to resist, which he eventually rescinded because of the fear of popular resistance and threat to public peace which his inciting statement could trigger.
We as well recollect how policemen allegedly acting under the instruction of now ex-IGP Suleiman Abba committed treason against the Federal Republic of Nigeria on November 20th 2014 by desecrating the hallowed chambers of the national assembly through invasion, locking out some honourable members, tear gassing others and working in cahoots with some undemocratic elements both outside and within who are members of the house of representatives in their satanic and illegal plot to impeach the speaker of the House of Representatives, Right Honourable Aminu Tambuwal which failed due to the vigilance and resistance of determined defenders of democracy members of the house. But the truth of the matter is that by these acts, Mr. Suleiman Abba had established a reputation as a lawless officer whose loyalty was not to the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria but “personally” to the government of the day just like his predecessors and this was shameful, illegal, unconstitutional, undemocratic and a national embarrassment.
Again, in the prelude to the 2015 general elections, Mr. Suleiman in keying into the tradition of illegality and unconstitutionality of his predecessors issued a warning to voters to keep a distance of 300 meters away from the polling booths after voting even when there was no law authorizing him to do that. But trust Nigerians, they rose up in one voice and condemned the illegality and provocativeness of the order which forced Mr. Abba to eat the humble pie of rescinding himself.
Since the removal of ex-IGP Mr. Suleiman Abba yesterday, a lot of reasons have been adduced by the Nigerian public for President Jonathan’s action which has largely being viewed as vendetta against him for refusing to play ball of compromise during the elections by discharging his responsibilities professionally and impartially unlike the usual practice of blind loyalty to the government at the expense of his constitutional oath. Be that as it may, one can only sympathize with Mr. Abba because he was the architect of his own misfortune which has made him to be the number one scapegoat of the Goodluck Jonathan administration Presidential election defeat.
If from the day he was appointed as IGP till yesterday when he was sacked, Mr. Suleiman Abba had exhibited professionalism and impartiality in the discharge of his constitutional responsibilities, nobody would have impugned disloyalty to the government in his actions of professionalism during the elections and by now, even though sacked, he would have written his name in Gold as a fine officer and gentleman.
But today, Mr. Suleiman Abba is a victim of a monstrous system he helped perpetuate as he has being sacrificed on the altar of expediency just like he helped sacrifice others and like we say, what a man soweth, so shall he reap. Therefore, let no one weep for Mr. Suleiman Abba.
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Greetings Mr.  Adeniran Abraham Ariyo:


Partisan acrimonies  characterized the Nigerian elections with "protagonists and antagonists." No big deal in the season. So why do you think the Igbos have time for whatever your  political affinities, which you are entitled to express? 

The issue is  what should not be condoned in any  civilized setting because it erodes the fabric of decency, which binds humanity even when people differ in orientations and arguments.  Let us go with a grain of salt and assume the exchanges attributed to you were fabricated. If you are genuine and serious, where can people read what you admittedly wrote in order to arrive at their conclusions?   To other sensible persons, it is difficult to understand how you are misunderstood, what is taken out of context, and misconstrued, when you deny what is attributed to you, admit you wrote stuff at the heat of the exchanges but you cannot explain what you wrote. 

In light of the fact that Africa is soaked with blood spilled based on  ethnic  bigotry, you may understand that the mindsets reflected in these exchanges constitute an evil lurking in society. Its hibernation, where and when it manifests only needs a misguided outlet or ruse. 

Dr. Adeniran Ariyo is a cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and is affiliated with Dallas Regional Medical Center. 

Dear doctor, it is very interesting that you have  time on your hands to express yourself on Facebook /social media on matters that have  no connection to the nature of your job, take partisan jabs,  but think it makes sense to mention your 3 hours of sleep in 48 hours.  I guess you are mature enough to strike a fine balance between earning a living  and  your extra-professional chats  in the social media.  Not withstanding  your sleep deprivation, the  contextual point is whether you explicitly or implicitly echoed  or supported tendencies and errant utterances that may result in harm befalling the Igbos as a target population. 

Noting your friendships with some Igbos in your classes,  how you ate and partied along,  conducted academic presentations could be therapeutic or useful to you when accused  of ethnic-oriented malaise.  But  does it diminish the gravity of the accusation; neither would it rationalize your culpability if you wrote what is offensive based on ethnicity. 

Injecting the names of people - Agwunobi, Obi Emerole etc. as your exculpatory evidence in this sordid matter is too self-serving and unethical.  Surely, the expediencies you engaged in are not synonymous with the anthology of medicine for the benefit of Nigerians, babies  or humanity. Therefore,  the drop of names and associated positions  in government or the world of academia and medicine digress from your own accountability on what you specifically wrote, which is deemed offensive to others, even if you think your views were misconstrued. 

Please stay on point. Why? Even Jim Crow adherents in the South had some black friends. Before that, slave owners did more like having children with their slaves while brutalizing the target population. Ethnic violence is not necessarily committed by those who profess to hate the country. The Oba of Lagos would tell you he loves Nigeria, too, while singling out Igbos for his political debauchery. You say you come from a monarchial family. Very well, sir. But if we all start writing about family backgrounds  to  explain away  irresponsibility for our actions,  the social sphere would be populated by more opportunistic rascals than reasonable people.

So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others. 

You admitted to defending/supporting  the Oba of Lagos,  Rilwanu Akiolu, at the time when he predicted that perishing inside the Lagoon is a destination for Igbos who are non-compliant: those who would not vote for the APC gubernatorial candidate.  The APC distanced itself from the Oba's murderous idea,  which violates Section 42 of the Constitution that  prohibits discrimination on grounds of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, creed or sex. Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, called for the Oba of Lagos  to apologize to the Igbos “without delay. 

Can anyone go to your Facebook page and read where you condemned the barbaric tactics? If not, it can be safely assumed that you forgot where your best man comes from, all the Igbo people  you named in your write-up,  and the value of  coming together as "One Nigeria," which you organized around Boston.  Waow, the selective amnesia and  lack of conscience in imagine brandishing can make Machiavellian enthusiasts blush with envy.

Sir, talk of misconstruing meaning, it would be clear to an elementary school pupil that you are deliberately misconstruing  ethnic-based threats by disseminating a false premise.  It was never  about Akiolu having a political opinion; even birds do. It was about his diabolic aim at the Igbos in Lagos. Please do not take refuge in democratic allowances  in order to disguise and promote a latent intent.  

You posted, on your Facebook page an article written by Segun Adebowale with the headline: Polls: Yoruba interest group, COSEG, backs Oba Akiolu.  The main thrust reads "The coalition stated that as custodian of custom and tradition of his people, Oba Akiolu cannot be faulted for supporting a candidate he knows very well and can vouch for unlike an unknown candidate who has consistently maintained his support for the people of the Niger Delta and played the ethnic cards owing to his desperation for power."

The above is an ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can be  fanned by partisans of all stripes during campaigns. It does not  raise an eyebrow. Agreed, Akiolu, area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right to advocate for their candidates. The ensuing outcry was about his doomsday  wish for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic or traditional prerogatives.  C'mon now, who is kidding who with your "true statement."
With due respect, what you elaborated on is irrelevant when it did not address the specific accusation. For examples:

1)  Pouring your beliefs on Faceboook is not incidental to services to the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas. 

2) To the extent that the crux of the matter requires  socio-emotional intelligence and civilized comportment, which regulate behaviors in heated disagreements, your time as a research fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts and simultaneous enrollment for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health, did  not address what begins with home-training. By the time people go through adolescence, certain profound behavioral tendencies, regardless of the level of formal education, are already formed. 

The ability to recognize a lapse in judgement and apologize go a long way to heal rifts or rancor. It takes an honest soul. However, if you are unwilling to be specific, prefer spinning,  and clouding the issues with your biography, it is your evasive right.   It may be helpful for you to assume that you are not writing to an impressionable and unsophisticated public where all readers do not understand the context of writing, connotations, and audience consideration. 


Respectfully,
MsJoe

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My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned “ U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos”.  This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc.  Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued.  The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all. To all the people affected by the original debate or subsequent computer distortions, I hereby apologize. No matter what, these stories are offensive and highly regrettable.
 I condemn these computer fabricators in their entirety. I further condemn any killings or any acts of violence anywhere, be it South Africa or Lagos.  Humanity will judge these people harshly.  I work every day to save people’s lives from heart attacks. I am writing this letter with only 3 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours due to the nature of my work and the barrage of death threats on me and my family.  I am Yoruba, but I have worked closely with Igbos all my life without any problem.  It came as a shock to me and my Igbo colleagues, that I was being labeled as an Igbo hater.  Indeed, I appreciate the confidence and support that I have received from my friends and well wishers that know me from around the world.  I thank you for the support and your continued prayers in face of this unwarranted and relentless attack created by this false story.  My only true statement regarding the Oba of Lagos was taken out of context on completely unrelated issue and bandaged together to create this horrendous story.   To prove that I am no Igbo hater, but in fact, I am my brother’s keeper, I will take you through an improbable journey of a young Nigerian boy from a small town to the world’s pinnacle of academic medicine. I will highlight the practical examples of my close relationships with some of my Igbo colleagues all along the way.  
 At the Univeristy of Ibadan, the first Nigerian University, I received the best medical education that could be obtained under the sun.  My teachers were Yoruba, Igbos, Hausa, and Fulani. During our training, we were tribal free.  I am currently working with an old U.I colleague, who is a U.S. based Cardiologist, and an Igbo, Dr. Obi Emerole as we put together the First Lagos Cardiovascular Symposium this summer in Ikeja, Lagos.  
At Howard University Hospital, where I trained as a medical resident and chief resident, my Igbo friends were Dr. John Agwunobi and Dr. Ahagtotu.  Dr. Agwunobi later became the secretary of health to Governor Jeb Bush in Florida, and, Dr. Ahaghotu is now the head of Urology and Associate Dean at the Institution.  We were all interns, bound together as Nigerians, without tribal affiliations.  We ate together, were on call together, and partied together on Saturday nights whenever we had time.  
 In 1995, I was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, where I was simultaneously enrolled for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health.  I reached out to all the Nigerians in the Boston area institutions and we had regular meetings as “one Nigeria.”  It was that year in Boston that I actually met Professor Wole Soyinka and the late Professor Chinua Achebe.
At the Johns Hopkins Hospital, regarded as the number one hospital in the United States, I was an Interventional Cardiology fellow.  My immediate senior colleague, Dr. Camellus Ezeagwu was Igbo.  I went to his house quite often for some “Fufu and goat meat” that his beautiful wife regularly prepared for us.
The best man at my wedding was an Igbo man.  Our families enjoy time together and vacation together.  I have served in various capacities under the umbrella of the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas (ANPA). I was humbled to be the keynote speaker at the recent end of the year event. I have also served in our communities and churches encouraging our youth to pursue a carrier in medicine.  I have served as head, chairman, director, and secretary in various capacities in different Nigerian organizations that included Yorubas and Igbos for the past 30 years, and not once has anyone said that I hate one group or the other. I currently serve as mentor for lots of young Nigerian doctors. I help them get into residency and fellowship around the country (Yorubas and Igbos alike). As we speak, I have several Yorubas and Igbos students rotating under my service at the hospital.
Nigeria is my country and I am proud of her. She gave me a lot and I intend to continue to give back. I will not let some people create a wedge between me and this country that I love. I believe my only sin was the support that I gave to the Oba of Lagos. As a son of a monarch myself, I have utmost respect for our native rulers. Thus, the position that I took during the debate leading to the highly spirited Lagos State gubernatorial election might have offended some people. For me, this is a lot of price to pay when I am not even a politician. It also shows how far people will go for payback. But, please, this is not a game for me. I have my plate full in USA. I would rather use this time to save lives and improve the health of people, or increase the chances of other Nigerian kids getting to where I am today rather than responding to false stories designed to get back at me for my different political position.  At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace.
I hope my story clears some ambiguities regarding this unfortunate computer manipulated and generated story.  Although, it hurts a lot, I will forgive them (the fabricators). We want every Nigerian to live in peace and harmony. We seek a more tolerant Nigeria, a vibrant Nigeria where there is freedom and liberty, where no one is inferior or superior to the other. We need to band together and start building our nation towards prosperity and a brighter future as we move forward to a more perfect Nigeria.  God bless Nigeria.  God bless us all.
 
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So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point:
 What did you admittedly write?

 
Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected.
 
Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others.


Folks:

This is what I wrote on relating to the sentence bolded in the above quote:

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Subject: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood.

Greetings Mr.  Adeniran Abraham Ariyo:


Partisan acrimonies  characterized the Nigerian elections with "protagonists and antagonists." No big deal in the season. So why do you think the Igbos have time for whatever your  political affinities, which you are entitled to express? 

The issue is  what should not be condoned in any  civilized setting because it erodes the fabric of decency, which binds humanity even when people differ in orientations and arguments.  Let us go with a grain of salt and assume the exchanges attributed to you were fabricated. If you are genuine and serious, where can people read what you admittedly wrote in order to arrive at their conclusions?   To other sensible persons, it is difficult to understand how you are misunderstood, what is taken out of context, and misconstrued, when you deny what is attributed to you, admit you wrote stuff at the heat of the exchanges but you cannot explain what you wrote. 

In light of the fact that Africa is soaked with blood spilled based on  ethnic  bigotry, you may understand that the mindsets reflected in these exchanges constitute an evil lurking in society. Its hibernation, where and when it manifests only needs a misguided outlet or ruse.  

Dr. Adeniran Ariyo is a cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and is affiliated with Dallas Regional Medical Center. 

Dear doctor, it is very interesting that you have  time on your hands to express yourself on Facebook /social media on matters that have  no connection to the nature of your job, take partisan jabs,  but think it makes sense to mention your 3 hours of sleep in 48 hours.   I guess you are mature enough to strike a fine balance between earning a living  and  your extra-professional chats  in the social media.  Not withstanding  your sleep deprivation, the  contextual point is whether you explicitly or implicitly echoed  or supported tendencie s a nd errant utterances that may result in harm befalling the Igbos as a target population. 

Noting your friendships with some Igbos in your classes,  how you ate and partied along,  conducted academic presentations could be therapeutic or useful to you when accused  of ethnic-oriented malaise.  But  does it diminish the gravity of the accusation; neither would it rationalize your culpability if you wrote what is offensive based on ethnicity. 

Injecting the names of people - Agwunobi, Obi Emerole etc. as your exculpatory evidence in this sordid matter is too self-serving and unethical.  Surely, the expediencies you engaged in are not synonymous with the anthology of medicine for the benefit of Nigerians, babies  or humanity. Therefore,  the drop of names and associated positions  in government or the world of academia and medicine digress from your own accountability on what you specifically wrote, which is deemed offensive to others, even if you think your views were misconstrued. 

Please stay on point. Why? Even Jim Crow adherents in the South had some black friends. Before that, slave owners did more like having children with their slaves while brutalizing the target population.  Ethnic violence is not necessarily committed by those who profess to hate the country. The Oba of Lagos would tell you he loves Nigeria, too, while singling out Igbos for his political debauchery. You say you come from a monarchial family. Very well, sir. But if we all start writing about family backgrounds  to  explain away  irresponsibility for our actions,  the social sphere would be populated by more opportunistic rascals than reasonable people.

So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others. 

You admitted to defending/supporting  the Oba of Lagos,  Rilwanu Akiolu, at the time when he predicted that perishing inside the Lagoon is a destination for Igbos who are non-compliant: those who would not vote for the APC gubernatorial candidate.  The APC distanced itself from the Oba's murderous idea,  which violates Section 42 of the Constitution that  prohibits discrimination on grounds of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, creed or sex. Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, called for the Oba of Lagos  to apologize to the Igbos “without delay. 

Can anyone go to your Facebook page and read where you condemned the barbaric tactics? If not, it can be safely assumed that you forgot where your best man comes from, all the Igbo people  you named in your write-up,  and the value of  coming together as "One Nigeria," which you organized around Boston.  Waow, the selective amnesia and  lack of conscience in imagine brandishing can make Machiavellian enthusiasts blush with envy.

Sir, talk of misconstruing meaning, it would be clear to an elementary school pupil that you are deliberately misconstruing  ethnic-based threats by disseminating a false premise.  It was never  about Akiolu having a political opinion; even birds do. It was about his diabolic aim at the Igbos in Lagos. Please do not take refuge in democratic allowances  in order to disguise and promote a latent intent.  

You posted, on your Facebook page an article written by Segun Adebowale with the headline: Polls: Yoruba interest group, COSEG, backs Oba Akiolu.  The main thrust reads "The coalition stated that as custodian of custom and tradition of his people, Oba Akiolu cannot be faulted for supporting a candidate he knows very well and can vouch for unlike an unknown candidate who has consistently maintained his support for the people of the Niger Delta and played the ethnic cards owing to his desperation for power."

T he above is an ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can be   fanned  by partisans of all stripes during campaigns. It does not  raise an eyebrow. A greed,  Akiolu, area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right to advocate for their candidates. The ensuing outcry was about his doomsday  wish for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic or traditional prerogatives.  C'mon now, who is kidding who with your "true statement."

Ayo Ojutalayo

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Vin,

I publicly disagreed with what Oba of Lagos said, but I have been defending him against insults and abuses from those of you who saw it as an opportunity to insult and abuse an Oba. If I am not conflicted, I don't think the guy is conflicted. You and your Igbo-type make it difficult to support an Igbo cause because you go to the extreme whenever a non-Igbo says something you don't like. Recent examples are the Igbo abuses and insults against Danjuma, against the Oba of Lagos, and now against Dr Ariyo. Like me, they are all Igbo haters! Whether you like it or not, there are elements of truth in what each of these three people said even though it might not be politically correct to say what they said or the way they said it. But you people make it appear as if there is no truth in what they said. 

The truth in what Dr Ariyo was purported to have written is that Igbos invite trouble to themselves when they reside outside SE (be it Lagos or Abuja or even outside Nigeria) and behave as if they are in SE (where there may be no respect for elders, traditional institutions or conventions), and the trouble can be of various proportions as history has shown.

 
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Quote:

from the message below:

"
So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point:
What did you admittedly write?

Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected.

Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others."--Ms Joe

unquote



Dear All:

As the bolded sentence attributed to me in the above quote does not accurately reflect
the entire intent of my message, I wish to restate in full the referenced sentence in my original
response to Leye Ige:

I wrote as follows:

Quote:

"
Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in

instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others
to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such
speech."--Ola Kassim

unQuote

I am fully aware that "Hate Speech" is protected in the USA to the extent that such speech
does not incite others to hurt fellow human beings, both emotionally and or physically or to kill them.
This is the reason homeland security has been arresting home grown "lone wolf" terrorists in the USA based on their utterances
on Facebook, twitter and other media before they have the time to actualize their murderous intentions,

I am issuing this clarification so no one throws it in my face that I endorsed hate speech
in the near or distant future.

Why such hateful speeches and propaganda are condoned in the USA
(under the guise of freedom of speech) can only be ascribed to some of the peculiarities of the laws
of the USA.

Hate Speech is illegal in Canada regardless of whether it causes harm or it does
not.

Bye,

Ola
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Dear Leye:

Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in
instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others
to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such
speech.

It is also not protected under Canadian and international laws. This
is the reason why the Hutu leaders who provoked the violence that culminated in
the Rwandan genocide could be successfully prosecuted and jailed at The Hague
even though there was no single evidence that any one of the accused either
carried a machete or personally physically hurt any one of the victims.

Let
us tone down the rhetoric!

Bye,

Ola


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Subject: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood.

Greetings Mr.  Adeniran Abraham Ariyo:


Partisan acrimonies  characterized the Nigerian elections with "protagonists and antagonists." No big deal in the season. So why do you think the Igbos have time for whatever your  political affinities, which you are entitled to express? 

The issue is  what should not be condoned in any  civilized setting because it erodes the fabric of decency, which binds humanity even when people differ in orientations and arguments.  Let us go with a grain of salt and assume the exchanges attributed to you were fabricated. If you are genuine and serious, where can people read what you admittedly wrote in order to arrive at their conclusions?   To other sensible persons, it is difficult to understand how you are misunderstood, what is taken out of context, and misconstrued, when you deny what is attributed to you, admit you wrote stuff at the heat of the exchanges but you cannot explain what you wrote. 

In light of the fact that Africa is soaked with blood spilled based on  ethnic  bigotry, you may understand that the mindsets reflected in these exchanges constitute an evil lurking in society. Its hibernation, where and when it manifests only needs a misguided outlet or ruse.  

Dr. Adeniran Ariyo is a cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and is affiliated with Dallas Regional Medical Center. 

Dear doctor, it is very interesting that you have  time on your hands to express yourself on Facebook /social media on matters that have  no connection to the nature of your job, take partisan jabs,  but think it makes sense to mention your 3 hours of sleep in 48 hours.   I guess you are mature enough to strike a fine balance between earning a living  and  your extra-professional chats  in the social media.  Not withstanding  your sleep deprivation, the  contextual point is whether you explicitly or implicitly echoed  or supported tendencie s a nd errant utterances that may result in harm befalling the Igbos as a target population. 

Noting your friendships with some Igbos in your classes,  how you ate and partied along,  conducted academic presentations could be therapeutic or useful to you when accused  of ethnic-oriented malaise.  But  does it diminish the gravity of the accusation; neither would it rationalize your culpability if you wrote what is offensive based on ethnicity. 

Injecting the names of people - Agwunobi, Obi Emerole etc. as your exculpatory evidence in this sordid matter is too self-serving and unethical.  Surely, the expediencies you engaged in are not synonymous with the anthology of medicine for the benefit of Nigerians, babies  or humanity. Therefore,  the drop of names and associated positions  in government or the world of academia and medicine digress from your own accountability on what you specifically wrote, which is deemed offensive to others, even if you think your views were misconstrued. 

Please stay on point. Why? Even Jim Crow adherents in the South had some black friends. Before that, slave owners did more like having children with their slaves while brutalizing the target population.  Ethnic violence is not necessarily committed by those who profess to hate the country. The Oba of Lagos would tell you he loves Nigeria, too, while singling out Igbos for his political debauchery. You say you come from a monarchial family. Very well, sir. But if we all start writing about family backgrounds  to  explain away  irresponsibility for our actions,  the social sphere would be populated by more opportunistic rascals than reasonable people.

So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others. 

You admitted to defending/supporting  the Oba of Lagos,  Rilwanu Akiolu, at the time when he predicted that perishing inside the Lagoon is a destination for Igbos who are non-compliant: those who would not vote for the APC gubernatorial candidate.  The APC distanced itself from the Oba's murderous idea,  which violates Section 42 of the Constitution that  prohibits discrimination on grounds of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, creed or sex. Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, called for the Oba of Lagos  to apologize to the Igbos “without delay. 

Can anyone go to your Facebook page and read where you condemned the barbaric tactics? If not, it can be safely assumed that you forgot where your best man comes from, all the Igbo people  you named in your write-up,  and the value of  coming together as "One Nigeria," which you organized around Boston.  Waow, the selective amnesia and  lack of conscience in imagine brandishing can make Machiavellian enthusiasts blush with envy.

Sir, talk of misconstruing meaning, it would be clear to an elementary school pupil that you are deliberately misconstruing  ethnic-based threats by disseminating a false premise.  It was never  about Akiolu having a political opinion; even birds do. It was about his diabolic aim at the Igbos in Lagos. Please do not take refuge in democratic allowances  in order to disguise and promote a latent intent.  

You posted, on your Facebook page an article written by Segun Adebowale with the headline: Polls: Yoruba interest group, COSEG, backs Oba Akiolu.  The main thrust reads "The coalition stated that as custodian of custom and tradition of his people, Oba Akiolu cannot be faulted for supporting a candidate he knows very well and can vouch for unlike an unknown candidate who has consistently maintained his support for the people of the Niger Delta and played the ethnic cards owing to his desperation for power."

T he above is an ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can be   fanned  by partisans of all stripes during campaigns. It does not  raise an eyebrow. A greed,  Akiolu, area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right to advocate for their candidates. The ensuing outcry was about his doomsday  wish for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic or traditional prerogatives.  C'mon now, who is kidding who with your "true statement."

Ayo Ojutalayo

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Cornelius,

You don't want the matter rest?

 
"We all [except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze Adiele 

Ayo Ojutalayo

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I can attest that Ola never stated anywhere in his submissions that Hate speech was protected. Indeed, he vehemently/strongly disagreed with one Leye who took the stand that Hate speech belonged to the First Amendment in the US or even  Canada. And those who call North America home know clearly [if  they choose to read with some understanding] that Hate speech is not a protected right in the US or Canada.

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Hello Lion Killer:

Good evening from my end. You are correct.  I regret the error and I apologize. It should have read: Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is not protected. Yes, but people are not constitutionally bound to love others. 

The relevance of the two sentences is to emphasize the point that one is at liberty to not love/like/accept  anyone, but the person  cannot violate someone's constitutional  rights based on his/her dislike or disregard for the target. It is meant to address the often claimed right to opinions, preferences, loyalties. 


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Then what is stopping Igbos in taking Dr Ariyo to court or asking the police to arrest him?
If you Igbos know the law on Hate Speech so well, why keep whining?

Waste of time.
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If what Dr. Ariyo allegedly wrote, as highlighted below,is causing some igbos to want to take over his medical license, then they can never. I am ready to testify at the hearing.I ask my igbo friends if any other tribe can come to igboland and say we want to take over their land and they will not be insulted? Do Igbos think they are the only successful people in Nigeria? Do Igbos think Yorubas cannot govern their own land, Lagos which is
 full of milk and honey? The election results have shown everybody the level of their voting power in Lagos. Let everyone find his or her level in Lagos.
How to make the whole of Nigeria including Igboland, greater should be our focus.
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood.


Greetings Mr.  Adeniran Abraham Ariyo:


Partisan acrimonies  characterized the Nigerian elections with "protagonists and antagonists." No big deal in the season. So why do you think the Igbos have time for whatever your  political affinities, which you are entitled to express? 

The issue is  what should not be condoned in any  civilized setting because it erodes the fabric of decency, which binds humanity even when people differ in orientations and arguments.  Let us go with a grain of salt and assume the exchanges attributed to you were fabricated. If you are genuine and serious, where can people read what you admittedly wrote in order to arrive at their conclusions?   To other sensible persons, it is difficult to understand how you are misunderstood, what is taken out of context, and misconstrued, when you deny what is attributed to you, admit you wrote stuff at the heat of the exchanges but you cannot explain what you wrote. 

In light of the fact that Africa is soaked with blood spilled based on  ethnic  bigotry, you may understand that the mindsets reflected in these exchanges constitute an evil lurking in society. Its hibernation, where and when it manifests only needs a misguided outlet or ruse.  

Dr. Adeniran Ariyo is a cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and is affiliated with Dallas Regional Medical Center. 

Dear doctor, it is very interesting that you have  time on your hands to express yourself on Facebook /social media on matters that have  no connection to the nature of your job, take partisan jabs,  but think it makes sense to mention your 3 hours of sleep in 48 hours.   I guess you are mature enough to strike a fine balance between earning a living  and  your extra-professional chats  in the social media.  Not withstanding  your sleep deprivation, the  contextual point is whether you explicitly or implicitly echoed  or supported tendencie s a nd errant utterances that may result in harm befalling the Igbos as a target population. 

Noting your friendships with some Igbos in your classes,  how you ate and partied along,  conducted academic presentations could be therapeutic or useful to you when accused  of ethnic-oriented malaise.  But  does it diminish the gravity of the accusation; neither would it rationalize your culpability if you wrote what is offensive based on ethnicity. 

Injecting the names of people - Agwunobi, Obi Emerole etc. as your exculpatory evidence in this sordid matter is too self-serving and unethical.  Surely, the expediencies you engaged in are not synonymous with the anthology of medicine for the benefit of Nigerians, babies  or humanity. Therefore,  the drop of names and associated positions  in government or the world of academia and medicine digress from your own accountability on what you specifically wrote, which is deemed offensive to others, even if you think your views were misconstrued. 

Please stay on point. Why? Even Jim Crow adherents in the South had some black friends. Before that, slave owners did more like having children with their slaves while brutalizing the target population.  Ethnic violence is not necessarily committed by those who profess to hate the country. The Oba of Lagos would tell you he loves Nigeria, too, while singling out Igbos for his political debauchery. You say you come from a monarchial family. Very well, sir. But if we all start writing about family backgrounds  to  explain away  irresponsibility for our actions,  the social sphere would be populated by more opportunistic rascals than reasonable people.

So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be  reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others. 

You admitted to defending/supporting  the Oba of Lagos,  Rilwanu Akiolu, at the time when he predicted that perishing inside the Lagoon is a destination for Igbos who are non-compliant: those who would not vote for the APC gubernatorial candidate.  The APC distanced itself from the Oba's murderous idea,  which violates Section 42 of the Constitution that  prohibits discrimination on grounds of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, creed or sex. Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, called for the Oba of Lagos  to apologize to the Igbos “without delay. 

Can anyone go to your Facebook page and read where you condemned the barbaric tactics? If not, it can be safely assumed that you forgot where your best man comes from, all the Igbo people  you named in your write-up,  and the value of  coming together as "One Nigeria," which you organized around Boston.  Waow, the selective amnesia and  lack of conscience in imagine brandishing can make Machiavellian enthusiasts blush with envy.

Sir, talk of misconstruing meaning, it would be clear to an elementary school pupil that you are deliberately misconstruing  ethnic-based threats by disseminating a false premise.  It was never  about Akiolu having a political opinion; even birds do. It was about his diabolic aim at the Igbos in Lagos. Please do not take refuge in democratic allowances  in order to disguise and promote a latent intent.  

You posted, on your Facebook page an article written by Segun Adebowale with the headline: Polls: Yoruba interest group, COSEG, backs Oba Akiolu.  The main thrust reads "The coalition stated that as custodian of custom and tradition of his people, Oba Akiolu cannot be faulted for supporting a candidate he knows very well and can vouch for unlike an unknown candidate who has consistently maintained his support for the people of the Niger Delta and played the ethnic cards owing to his desperation for power."

T he above is an ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can be   fanned  by partisans of all stripes during campaigns. It does not  raise an eyebrow. A greed,  Akiolu, area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right to advocate for their candidates. The ensuing outcry was about his doomsday  wish for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic or traditional prerogatives.  C'mon now, who is kidding who with your "true statement."

Asagwara, Ken (EAL)

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Yep; typical of you, Afis.

 

Had you found favor in what Ms.Joe eloquently articulated, you will not have responded, “Talk about having too much time on hand, who has time to read the forty paragraphs this lady MsJ”

 

Nor would you have ended, “Let me go watch game2 of Grizzlies vs Portland ojare.”

 

You are phony it’s no joke.

 

Cheers.

 

Mazi KC Prince Asagwara

 

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Talk about having too much time on hand, who has time to read the forty paragraphs this lady MsJoe wrote below?

Let me go watch game2 of Grizzlies vs Portland ojare.

Afis


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Dr Asagwara, I read MsJoe's two paragraphs out of forty, I nearly fell asleep. She is too blandly uninteresting to read. I can't be reading for enjoyment and keeping myself awake with Fodgers latte.

Biko, make you lef man alone ojare!
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Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 9:20 PM

If what Dr. Ariyo
allegedly wrote, as highlighted below,is causing some igbos
to want to take over his medical license, then they can
never. I am ready to testify at the hearing.I ask my igbo
friends if any other tribe can come to igboland and say we
want to take over their land and they will not be insulted?
Do Igbos think they are the only successful people in
Nigeria? Do Igbos think Yorubas cannot govern their own
land, Lagos which is full of milk and honey? The
election results have shown everybody the level of their
voting power in Lagos. Let everyone find his or her level in
Lagos.How to make the whole of Nigeria including
Igboland, greater should be our focus.
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"A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to display on its buses a controversial ad that refers to Muslims killing Jews,
rejecting the argument that the ad could incite terrorism or imminent violence. The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf around his head and face, includes a quotation “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah” attributed to “Hamas MTV,” and then states, “That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?”
Koeltl said he was “sensitive” to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast “underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco.” MTA buses and subways are often forums for policy debates. The agency has accepted other ads from the American Freedom Defense Initiative, which is characterized as an anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Koeltl delayed enforcing his preliminary injunction by 30 days so the MTA could decide whether to appeal.
Adam Lisberg, an MTA spokesman, said: “We are disappointed in the ruling and are reviewing our options.” The ad includes a disclaimer that its display does not imply an MTA endorsement. The MTA said the ad did not meet standards it adopted in 2012 after a judge, in another lawsuit by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, said its earlier ban on ads that demeaned people based on race or religion violated the First Amendment.
U.S. District Judge John Koeltl said the ad was protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution."
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Subject: [OmoOdua] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [UmuAnambra] Re: [africanworldforum] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding
To: Omo...@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 9:43 PM


 



   


     
       
       
       Ezeana,This is another
sectional talk from an old man. Governor Fashola helped
resettled homeless people living in cosmopolitan Lagos by
sending them to their states of origin and Igbos people were
not treated in a less favorable term . Some Yoruba people
were sent to Ibadan, Osun, Ondo states etc while some
northerners were also taken up north but only Igbo people
felt cheated or offended . Should we have special rules for
the Igbos ? 
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       But your boss, Raj Fashola forcefully
deported your own people from Lagos to bridgehead Onicha
under cover of night, and some of them died as a result.
 Did you hear Oba Akiolu's threat to your own people,
Igbo?  Do we need to recall for you genocide in Biafra in
which 3 millions of your own people were massacred by
Nigerian government army which Yorubas and Hausa-Fulani
spearheaded?Where is the " peaceful and
mutual relationship?"
Mr Igbokwe, how do you wish to be
remembered in the light of these atrocities you have made a
career covering up for your in laws, Yorubas?
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[NIgerianWorldForum] <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com>
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       PLEASE STOP THESE HATE CAMPAIGNS HERE.
NOTHING ON EARTH CAN ERASE A CORDIAL, PEACEFUL AND MUTUAL
RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS EXISTED BETWEEN IGBO AND YORUBA SINCE
THE INCEPTION OF NIGERIA. OTHERS CAN ENDANGER THIS SOLID
RELATIONSHIP BUT I CANNOT. I LOVE THE YORUBA NATION BECAUSE
OF THEIR INFINITE CAPACITY TO WELCOME OTHER 

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[UmuAnambra] <UmuAn...@yahoogroups.com>
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       Let's accept his
apology. 
This is
computer age.
I grew
up in Ibadan.
The
Yorubas are very friendly people. 
Jokes apart. 

Ogbunugafor

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On Apr 21, 2015, at 11:22 PM, 'Yeye
Rolling' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com>
wrote:

He might also also be daft  because a
forensics of his computers can reveal the fabrication
claims.   

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Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding

 
 





   




     
       
       
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"A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to display on its buses a controversial ad that refers to Muslims killing Jews,
rejecting the argument that the ad could incite terrorism or imminent violence. The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf around his head and face, includes a quotation “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah” attributed to “Hamas MTV,” and then states, “That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?”
Koeltl said he was “sensitive” to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast “underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco.” MTA buses and subways are often forums for policy debates. The agency has accepted other ads from the American Freedom Defense Initiative, which is characterized as an anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Koeltl delayed enforcing his preliminary injunction by 30 days so the MTA could decide whether to appeal.
Adam Lisberg, an MTA spokesman, said: “We are disappointed in the ruling and are reviewing our options.” The ad includes a disclaimer that its display does not imply an MTA endorsement. The MTA said the ad did not meet standards it adopted in 2012 after a judge, in another lawsuit by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, said its earlier ban on ads that demeaned people based on race or religion violated the First Amendment.
U.S. District Judge John Koeltl said the ad was protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution."
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Subject: RE:  ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood.
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Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 9:20 PM



 
 




Yep; typical of you,
Afis.
 
   
Had you found favor
in what Ms.Joe eloquently articulated, you will not have
responded, “Talk
  about having too much time on hand, who has time to read
the forty paragraphs this lady MsJ”
 
   
Nor would you have
ended, “Let me
go watch game2 of Grizzlies vs Portland
  ojare.” 
   
You are phony it’s
no joke.
   
Cheers.
   
Mazi KC Prince
Asagwara
   


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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: [africanworldforum]
Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote
against Igbos - understood or misunderstood.


   
  



Talk about having too much time on hand, who has time
to read the forty paragraphs this lady MsJoe wrote
below?

Let me go watch game2
of Grizzlies vs Portland ojare.


Afis



On Wednesday, April 22, 2015, msjoe21st via
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 or supported tendencies and errant
The above is an
ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can
be  fanned by partisans of all stripes during
campaigns. It does not  raise an eyebrow.
Agreed, Akiolu,
  area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right
to advocate for their candidates. The
ensuing outcry was about his doomsday  wish
for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic
or traditional prerogatives.  C'mon now, who
is kidding who with your "true
  statement."




With due respect, what you elaborated
on is irrelevant when it did not address the
specific accusation. For examples:


   


1)  Pouring your beliefs
on Faceboook is not incidental to services to
the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The
Americas. 


   


2) To the extent that the crux of the
matter requires  socio-emotional intelligence and
civilized comportment, which regulate behaviors in heated
disagreements, your time as a research
  fellow at Harvard Medical School’s Brigham and Women’s
Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Texas Based Doctor
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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:17



PM, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum <africanw...@googlegroups.com>

wrote:

>



> Dr, Ola

Kassim,

>

Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT

apologize

for his views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The

allegations and accusations against him MUST

be CONTESTED.

The Texas Medical Board as

well as Attorney General MUST

listen to

BOTH sides.  That is the ONLY FAIR  road to

JUSTICE.

> Leye Ige

>



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> Subject:

[africanworldforum] Re: Texas

Based Doctor Calls for Igbo

Massacre, Goes

into Hiding

> To: "africanw...@googlegroups.com"

> Subject: Texas

Based Doctor Calls for Igbo

Massacre,

Goes

> into Hiding

>



>

>

>

>



>

>

>

>

>



> Texas Based Doctor Calls for

> Igbo

Massacre, Goes into

> Hiding

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"A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to display on its buses a controversial ad that refers to Muslims killing Jews, rejecting the argument that the ad could incite terrorism or imminent violence. The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf around his head and face, includes a quotation “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah” attributed to “Hamas MTV,” and then states, “That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?” Koeltl said he was “sensitive” to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast “underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco.” MTA buses and subways are often forums for policy debates. The agency has accepted other ads from
the American Freedom Defense Initiative, which is characterized as an anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Koeltl delayed enforcing his preliminary injunction by 30 days so the MTA could decide whether to appeal. Adam Lisberg, an MTA spokesman, said: “We are disappointed in the ruling and are reviewing our options.” The ad includes a disclaimer that its display does not imply an MTA endorsement. The MTA said the ad did not meet standards it adopted in 2012 after a judge, in another lawsuit by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, said its earlier ban on ads that demeaned people based on race or religion violated the First Amendment.
U.S. District Judge John Koeltl said the ad was protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution."
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Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 7:40 PM

Cornelius,
You don't want the
matter rest?
 "We all
[except Nebu Adiele] should be careful over certain
sensitive matters." . . .Nebukadineze
Adiele 
Ayo
Ojutalayo
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FYI: "A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to display on its buses a controversial ad that refers to Muslims killing Jews, rejecting the argument that the ad could incite terrorism or imminent violence. The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf around his head and face, includes a quotation “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah” attributed to “Hamas MTV,” and then states, “That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?” Koeltl said he was “sensitive” to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast “underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco.” MTA buses and subways are often forums for policy debates. The agency has accepted other ads
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Dear Leye:

The ruling by Justice Koetl is not only against the US constitution,
it also defies common sense. It would likely be turned down by an
appellate court and if not by the Supreme court.

If this kind of provocative advertisement is allowed in the guise of free
speech, this would also render illegal the arrests and interrogation of potential
terrorists in the USA based on the threatening opinions that they have published in
social media or asserted during private phone calls or in interviews with journalists.

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(1) The US Supreme Court has already ruled on Protected Speech and the ruling did not differ from Justice Koetl's--that will come up in its own time. Anyway, let's see if MTA will appeal--that's why it was given 30 days to decide.
(2) Have you signed the petition? Methinks the BEST way to settle this is in (a) the TMB (b) the Courts. So if these guys are REALLY aggrieved, what is keeping them from seeking justice through laid down channels? That, to me, is the issue, NOW. Can you try to convince them to go through the laid down rules?
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Yeeesss oooo. Let's see if they are serious enough to take these through the laid down channels. If they don't, we will.
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Alagba Leye Ige, these Igbos don't know
diddly.Only political correctness can make
Dr Ariyo's job give him a slap on the wrist, nothing
more.And if he decides to fight in court
he will win.What you posted below is the
best example of how American system
works.
A
jury in NY still out for six days unable to decide if a
confessed killer is guilty.The guy
confessed and described how he killed a
boy.But his lawyer says the guy
doesn't know what he's saying that he has some
screws loose in the head.For six days the
jury can't reach a decision.Imagine a
man in Nigeria confessing to a murder?The
man will be stoned and burnt to death on the streets, or die
in prison while waiting for justice.
Most of these guys are
educated but big time Illiterates.They
can't separate sentiments from
Reality.Dr Ozodi Osuji had several times
warned these Igbos of repercussions if they keep annoying
their hosts.What Osuji writes almost
weekly is worse many times more than Dr Ariyo's
seven-line comments.
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 Talk about having too much time on hand, who has time

 to read the forty paragraphs this lady MsJoe wrote

 below?



 Let me go watch game2

 of Grizzlies vs Portland ojare.





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  or supported tendencies and errant
 The above is an

 ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can

 be  fanned by partisans of all stripes during

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olaka...@aol.com

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Leye:

Let's wait for the appealwhich I hope the MTA will launch within the
30 day window,

What is the point of the petition when Dr Abraham Ariyo
has already denied being the author of the hate messages that were
falsely attributed to him?

Why flog a dead horse when Dr Ariyo has informed the whole wide world
that his computer and Facebook account were hacked and the hackers
deliberately posted false messages using his account?

What would be left for the Public Hearing to decide when the alleged author
has denied authorship of the contentious words and when many of the aggrieved have decided
to move on?

Even if the hearing were held and Dr Ariyo is vindicated do you expect that such vindification
would satisfy those who would not let the matter rest?

Again what are you and others trying to prove with the petition should in case I have missed a more compelling case
for the petition?

Bye,

Ola







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