FS or Best Offer: Broken Crust Romanceur Disc Frame with Nitto Stem

[Eric Whedbee]

After only a few months with this lovely frame, I hit a ditch and crunched the tubes. It was a great frame and I miss riding it. It's been sitting around and I'm not sure what to do with it since I replaced it rather than having it repaired. Asking at least $70 because of the nitto quill stem that's installed on it. Will take best offer. 

Any interest? 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3kSxDsHKi4noM6qD8

This is the XL size (62cm) I believe the measurements are the same as the current model- specs here: https://crustbikes.com/products/a-romantic-tale-the-romanceur

[mackenzy...@gmail.com]

Sorry to hear about the crunchy crash! This is a screamin deal if anyone knows a good frame builder. Also, Romanceur forks are somewhat desirable as nice 1" threaded forks. You could likely make a bit more if you sold it fork only if there's no bites...

[Christian Poppell]

Sent a PM :)

[Eric Whedbee]

Sorry all,  Please excuse my poor form on here! I'm struggling as I'm a little new with Google groups. What I meant to say in the original post was that I'm accepting offers, so if you're interested shoot me a message with an offer and to be fair I'll take the highest bid. I'll go with the best offer this Friday evening. We'll discuss shipping and try to figure out what that would look like. I'm in Southern California, pick up would be nice!

Eric

[Greg Achtem]

Meh. Ebay is across the hall.

On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 17:53, Eric Whedbee <er...@affectvisual.com> wrote:

Sorry, I realized I forgot to say, send me your offers! I think what I'll do is round up any bids by the end of the week, this Friday (10th) evening. I'm not sure exactly how to handle the shipping. I'm based in Southern California - so great if you're local for pickup. If not, we'll discuss shipping and see if it's worth it, no idea what that would cost. Thank you!

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[David Cummings]

I think what Greg is saying is that For Sale posts typically come with a base price.  People can negotiate from there.  I only took about 30 seconds to look, but I don't see any forum rules to follow.  That being said, if you look at any FS thread, prices are listed as common convention in this group.

David "I'm not a moderator, but I play one on TV" in MT

[Joe Bernard]

Basically we don't do auctions here, we put up an asking price and hope for the best. I usually end up selling for something a smidge less than where I started. 

Joe "sounds good to me, it's all yours" Bernard 

[Eric Whedbee]

Sounds good, thanks all, I'm new, I didn't know the convention. I'll try eBay since I don't know what to price this as. 

Eric

[Chris Cullum]

That frame is toast. It would certainly cost more to repair than a new frame unless you were a framebuilder. Any trauma severe enough to buckle the top tube and downtube to that degree puts the fork into question as well. Maybe it's ok, maybe not. That long aluminum quill stem after that hit is also a question mark. 

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[Will Boericke]

RIght.  Scrap metal.

[jeffre...@gmail.com]

Eric,

Thank goodness you are fine and sorry for the loss of your frame.  If you would be willing to share the circumstances surrounding this accident, I would be all ears.  How big was the ditch?  Did you go down?  How are the wheels?  You pictures show how the steel crunched up, absorbing all that energy, yet, the frame still held together.  Feel free, if you can, to PM me the details.  Thank you,

Best regards,

Jeff Arita

Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:59:50 AM UTC-8 er...@affectvisual.com wrote:

[Alex Wetmore]

The Romanceur is pretty light tubing (looks like oversized 853, which is probably 7/4/7), so I'm not surprised that it failed in a head-on crash.

Many list members (including myself) are fans of lightweight steel frames that can fit very wide tires.  That can provide for great riding experiences, but doesn't turn them into mountain bikes.  There is a reason that mountain bikes (especially rigid ones) use stiffer tubing, gussets, and oversized steerers. 

Since the bike has disc brakes the fork is probably pretty beefy and so the DT/TT became the weak link in absorbing the crash.

It's always disappointing losing a bike (especially a new one).  The VO uses thicker tubing and might be a better choice for your riding if you are happy with the ride quality.

Alex

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Subject: Re: [650B] FS or Best Offer: Broken Crust Romanceur Disc Frame with Nitto Stem

 

Yeesh. Turned me off Crust, or at least the Romanceur. If a steel frame crumples when it hits a bump in the road, no thanks.

On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:52:27 PM UTC+1 er...@affectvisual.com wrote:

Hey Jeff,

I wish I had a picture of the ditch that I planted my wheel into. I was riding at night down a dirt path and didn’t see how a washed out a section of it was until last minute, I thought I could just ride over it but I ended up hitting it straight on planting my wheel, I don’t even think I got scratched up at all from the fall which was great, but I was shocked later when finishing up that ride that I had bent those tubes! After the fall I picked up the bike and checked out the condition of the wheel. It seemed true still. The tubeless tire didn’t flat and I don’t think it even lost air. I finished up the ride, which was basically a long road decent, it felt a little off in terms of handling, I stopped to chat with my riding companions, and that’s when I saw how damaged the frame was. This was back in August I think, afterward I contacted Crust to see if they could offer me a discount on a new frame, they would not. It felt to me that there may have been some sort of weak point in construction, but I learned later that I guess it’s totally possible for all the force to be transferred all the way to the frame without harming the tire/wheel/fork. Still sort of scratching my head about that and wondering if the lugging should have been longer, or if the acute lugging points aided in the tube crushing. I know a frame builder but he wasn’t really up to the task of repairing the frame, so I just went ahead and bought a velo orange polyvalent frame because pretty much all my components could be swapped. 

Eric

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[jeffre...@gmail.com]

Hey Eric,

No worries.  Just glad everything turned out okay for you health-wise.  Thank you for sharing what happened.  When thinking of automobile crashes and folks simply walking away, steel sure seems to be one of the best materials safety-wise.

Take care,

Jeff
  

[Eric Keller]

I can repair this frame and I would have to think long and hard about
taking it for free. I just don't like repairing bikes, you end up
owning any mistakes that the original builder made. My suggestion is
to remove any parts and sell them separately. Sometimes people on ebay
will bid up a crunched frame that's properly disclosed.

Eric Keller
Boalsburg, Pennsylvania

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