CALL FOR A VOTE - FINAL DRAFT (2019-02-14)
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Annabelle Backman
Feb 14, 2019, 2:51:02 PM2/14/19
to 43rd District Democrats Rules and Bylaws Committee
Hello Bylaws committee members,
I have updated the draft proposal with what seems to be the rough consensus from the discussions on the PCO membership dates and Young Democrats Representative position, as well as a couple additional changes that were raised:
- The Preamble has been changed to text provided by Amy that was previously used by the 43rd in promotional materials.
- Appointed PCOs and Precinct Coordinators become members when they are approved by the membership.
- §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when the District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their appointment.
- The definition of Reorg meetings in §4.2.3 is updated to allow them to occur in December.
- KCDCC Rep and Alt. descriptions clarified to say they shall participate in KCDCC standing committees.
- Young Dems Rep defined as specifically a member of a collegiate YD org.
- §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and adoption of a Privacy Policy, and related provisions around privacy of member information.
Please reply with a Yes/No vote on recommending adoption of THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT to the body. Partial votes or votes that are conditional on further modifications are out of order for this vote. This vote will be held open until 5:00 PM this evening or until we receive a clear majority for or against recommendation.
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Annabelle Backman
Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
Brad Bell
Feb 14, 2019, 3:09:26 PM2/14/19
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Yes
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frui...@tara-jamie.net
Feb 14, 2019, 3:12:12 PM2/14/19
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I just voted yes for the 2/13 version. Now I have problems with this
version (see below). So, NO on 2/14 version.
Tara
* §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
* §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
committees. KCD bylaws may or may not specify that all reps have to
serve on a committee, but we don't mandate that. The idea is that these
positions, especially the alts, are not high-demand positions and the
folks in those positions need to be doing some 43rd work.
If folks disagree, we can drop the provision, but it's not any big use
to the 43rd to tell the reps to serve on a KCD committee.
I am all-capping this because I am sure we had this discussion already.
* §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and
see the need to remove the current language. Plus there would now be an
awkward time with no data policy whatever.
On 2019-02-14 14:50, Annabelle Backman wrote:
> Hello Bylaws committee members,
>
> I have updated the draft proposal with what seems to be the rough
> consensus from the discussions on the PCO membership dates and Young
> Democrats Representative position, as well as a couple additional
> changes that were raised:
>
> * The Preamble has been changed to text provided by Amy that was
> participate in _KCDCC_ standing committees.
> * Young Dems Rep defined as specifically a member of a collegiate YD
> org.
> * §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and
> Links:
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> [1]
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/43rd-bylaws/CABRLSOsM40OQ%3DL8%3Dpu%2B-SKdPRp0FoiXGnRDuyru7PVudLkiDLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
version (see below). So, NO on 2/14 version.
Tara
* §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
> Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when the
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
KCD Chair does not appoint Precinct Coordinators.
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
* §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
> Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when the
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
NO, the idea is that the KCD reps and alts serve on *43RD* standing
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
committees. KCD bylaws may or may not specify that all reps have to
serve on a committee, but we don't mandate that. The idea is that these
positions, especially the alts, are not high-demand positions and the
folks in those positions need to be doing some 43rd work.
If folks disagree, we can drop the provision, but it's not any big use
to the 43rd to tell the reps to serve on a KCD committee.
I am all-capping this because I am sure we had this discussion already.
* §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and
> adoption of a Privacy Policy, and related provisions around privacy of
> member information.
I'm not voting for this 12.7. I'm fine with the additions, but do not
> member information.
see the need to remove the current language. Plus there would now be an
awkward time with no data policy whatever.
On 2019-02-14 14:50, Annabelle Backman wrote:
> Hello Bylaws committee members,
>
> I have updated the draft proposal with what seems to be the rough
> consensus from the discussions on the PCO membership dates and Young
> Democrats Representative position, as well as a couple additional
> changes that were raised:
>
> previously used by the 43rd in promotional materials.
> * Appointed PCOs and Precinct Coordinators become members when they
> are approved by the membership.
> * §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
> Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when the
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
> * The definition of Reorg meetings in §4.2.3 is updated to allow
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
> them to occur in December.
> * KCDCC Rep and Alt. descriptions clarified to say they shall
> participate in _KCDCC_ standing committees.
> * Young Dems Rep defined as specifically a member of a collegiate YD
> org.
> * §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and
> adoption of a Privacy Policy, and related provisions around privacy of
> member information.
>
> Please reply with a Yes/No vote on recommending adoption of THE ENTIRE
> DOCUMENT to the body. Partial votes or votes that are conditional on
> further modifications are out of order for this vote. This vote will
> be held open until 5:00 PM this evening or until we receive a clear
> majority for or against recommendation.
>
> –
> Annabelle Backman
> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
>
> member information.
>
> Please reply with a Yes/No vote on recommending adoption of THE ENTIRE
> DOCUMENT to the body. Partial votes or votes that are conditional on
> further modifications are out of order for this vote. This vote will
> be held open until 5:00 PM this evening or until we receive a clear
> majority for or against recommendation.
>
> –
> Annabelle Backman
> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
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Brad Bell
Feb 14, 2019, 3:45:49 PM2/14/19
to Tara Gallagher, 43rd District Democrats Rules and Bylaws Committee
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:12 PM <frui...@tara-jamie.net> wrote:
I just voted yes for the 2/13 version. Now I have problems with this
version (see below). So, NO on 2/14 version.
Tara
* §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and Precinct
> Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when the
> District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of their
> appointment.
KCD Chair does not appoint Precinct Coordinators.
According to KCD section 4.3, they do. Are you saying we make a distinction between a KC precinct coordinator and a 43rd precinct coordinator?
* §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal and
> adoption of a Privacy Policy, and related provisions around privacy of
> member information.
I'm not voting for this 12.7. I'm fine with the additions, but do not
see the need to remove the current language. Plus there would now be an
awkward time with no data policy whatever.
I read 12.7.4 as saying in the absence of a privacy policy, nothing may be shared.
I also didn't see that much of a problem with the previous language, we can add a privacy policy into the standing rules regardless.
James Williams
Feb 14, 2019, 3:50:45 PM2/14/19
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I vote “yes”
James
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Annabelle Backman
Feb 14, 2019, 3:53:20 PM2/14/19
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Just to be clear, I vote "Yes."
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Annabelle Backman
Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
Amy Madden
Feb 14, 2019, 4:14:48 PM2/14/19
to Annabelle Backman, James Williams, 43rd District Democrats Rules and Bylaws Committee
I vote yes.
I noticed a few of my suggestions are listed above, so am wondering what's happening with my 2.1.c proposal, which Aidan expressed support for in the other thread. Copy/paste for reference:
--AmyI noticed a few of my suggestions are listed above, so am wondering what's happening with my 2.1.c proposal, which Aidan expressed support for in the other thread. Copy/paste for reference:
2.1.c: As I stated in last year’s 43rd RBC committee, it’s my understanding that we do not require our members to sign some sort of oath declaring themselves to be Democrats when they sign up, which is partly why I don’t think we need language this strong in our bylaws. I’m also concerned we’re out of compliance with our bylaws if we don’t make people somehow go on record about their declaration.
I’d like to propose the following change, which I went over with a member of the Executive Board of the WA Dems:
Replace section (c) with: (c) aligns with the Democratic Party platform and values; and”
________________________________
--We're also missing fixes to the gender diversity challenge and lack of following protocol I brought up here:
5.2.5 Another proposal from December that I’m not sure has been discussed by the newer committee: The language about SCC Members having to “notify the appropriate KCDCC Representative if they cannot attend a meeting of the WSDCC” doesn’t seem to fit the current practices related to proxies, which has allowed for any member of the 43rd to be named as a proxy. David named Alexa as his proxy for the last meeting, e.g. Also, the “notify the appropriate” rep language doesn’t allow for gender diversity. If we’re going to stipulate that KCDCC reps are the ones who should be given first crack at proxying, we may need to work out some kind of system for which KCD rep will proxy for the SCC rep.
The language being considered last Dec was:
(b) appoint a proxy to attend in their place if they cannot attend a meeting of the WSDCC;
5.2.6 Strike section (d) regarding serving as an alternate SCC member.
_____________________________________
--Also, I support striking 10.4. I'd rather the e-board stay out of weighing in on endorsements before the full membership votes. This was flagged by a few of us last December as a problematic clause.
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frui...@tara-jamie.net
Feb 14, 2019, 4:23:45 PM2/14/19
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Do you mean current CKD bylaws or the most recent proposal, to be voted
on on the 23rd?
Because the new bylaws take all that out. Because it is incorrect.
These non-resident precinct positions have no standing in RCW or State
bylaws or Charter. They are strictly local org volunteer positions, and
local orgs have complete control. KCD has no say or role in selection of
non-resident precinct organizers.
Tara
on on the 23rd?
Because the new bylaws take all that out. Because it is incorrect.
These non-resident precinct positions have no standing in RCW or State
bylaws or Charter. They are strictly local org volunteer positions, and
local orgs have complete control. KCD has no say or role in selection of
non-resident precinct organizers.
Tara
Annabelle Backman
Feb 14, 2019, 4:25:38 PM2/14/19
to Amy Madden, 43rd District Democrats Rules and Bylaws Committee, James Williams
I pulled in a couple of your changes that seemed straightforward and non-controversial (apparently I was wrong about at least one of those).
Scott Alspach
Feb 14, 2019, 5:56:57 PM2/14/19
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As of now I'd be a "no" on this version due to the privacy policy, though I agree with both of Tara's concerns as well.
12.7.3 Individuals may request that PII relating to them or an individual they are the parent or
guardian of be removed or redacted from some or all records held by the 43rd 658 District
Democrats. Such requests shall be responded to and acted upon within thirty (30) days of their
receipt by the Executive Board. The Executive Board shall take all reasonable steps to honor
such requests.:
For a variety of reasons we cannot promise to remove PII regarding who our past donors or members are, the biggest being potential PDC or other reporting needs. I would strongly prefer we maintain the existing language which doesn't limit us from creating an additional privacy policy as needed and is pretty strong about what we can or cannot do with our members data.
such requests.:
For a variety of reasons we cannot promise to remove PII regarding who our past donors or members are, the biggest being potential PDC or other reporting needs. I would strongly prefer we maintain the existing language which doesn't limit us from creating an additional privacy policy as needed and is pretty strong about what we can or cannot do with our members data.
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Brad Bell
Feb 14, 2019, 6:50:04 PM2/14/19
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I think we really need to pass this draft. If it passes, we can make a further motion to revert 12.7 to the version from yesterday. I would vote yes for this proposal.
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frui...@tara-jamie.net
Feb 14, 2019, 7:04:35 PM2/14/19
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Would like to go back to voting on yesterday's version. There's really a
lot of changes here
Tara
>> current practices related to proxies, which has allowed for ANY
>> MEMBER OF THE 43RD TO BE NAMED AS A PROXY. David named Alexa as his
>> proxy for the last meeting, e.g. Also, the “NOTIFY THE
>> APPROPRIATE” REP LANGUAGE DOESN’T ALLOW FOR GENDER DIVERSITY. If
>> participate in _KCDCC_ standing committees.
>> * Young Dems Rep defined as specifically a member of a collegiate
>> YD org.
>> * §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal
> [5].
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lot of changes here
Tara
>> MEMBER OF THE 43RD TO BE NAMED AS A PROXY. David named Alexa as his
>> proxy for the last meeting, e.g. Also, the “NOTIFY THE
>> APPROPRIATE” REP LANGUAGE DOESN’T ALLOW FOR GENDER DIVERSITY. If
>> we’re going to stipulate that KCDCC reps are the ones who should
>> be given first crack at proxying, we may need to work out some kind
>> of system for which KCD rep will proxy for the SCC rep.
>>
>> The language being considered last Dec was:
>>
>> (b) appoint a proxy to attend in their place if they cannot attend a
>> meeting of the WSDCC;
>>
>> 5.2.6 Strike section (d) regarding serving as an alternate SCC
>> member.
>>
>> _____________________________________
>>
>> --Also, I support STRIKING 10.4. I'd rather the e-board stay out of
>> be given first crack at proxying, we may need to work out some kind
>> of system for which KCD rep will proxy for the SCC rep.
>>
>> The language being considered last Dec was:
>>
>> (b) appoint a proxy to attend in their place if they cannot attend a
>> meeting of the WSDCC;
>>
>> 5.2.6 Strike section (d) regarding serving as an alternate SCC
>> member.
>>
>> _____________________________________
>>
>> weighing in on endorsements before the full membership votes. This
>> was flagged by a few of us last December as a problematic clause.
>>
>> --Amy
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:53 PM Annabelle Backman
>> <abackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to be clear, I vote "Yes."
>>
>> –
>> Annabelle Backman
>> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
>> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:50 PM James Williams
>> <comput...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I vote “yes”
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Annabelle Backman
>> <abackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Bylaws committee members,
>>
>> I have updated the draft proposal with what seems to be the rough
>> consensus from the discussions on the PCO membership dates and Young
>> Democrats Representative position, as well as a couple additional
>> changes that were raised:
>>
>> * The Preamble has been changed to text provided by Amy that was
>> was flagged by a few of us last December as a problematic clause.
>>
>> --Amy
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:53 PM Annabelle Backman
>> <abackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to be clear, I vote "Yes."
>>
>> –
>> Annabelle Backman
>> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
>> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:50 PM James Williams
>> <comput...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I vote “yes”
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Annabelle Backman
>> <abackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Bylaws committee members,
>>
>> I have updated the draft proposal with what seems to be the rough
>> consensus from the discussions on the PCO membership dates and Young
>> Democrats Representative position, as well as a couple additional
>> changes that were raised:
>>
>> previously used by the 43rd in promotional materials.
>> * Appointed PCOs and Precinct Coordinators become members when they
>> are approved by the membership.
>> * §2.4 is updated to clearly state that Appointed PCOs and
>> Precinct Coordinators' memberships end when their terms end or when
>> the District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of
>> their appointment.
>> * The definition of Reorg meetings in §4.2.3 is updated to allow
>> the District Chair is informed of the County Chair's rejection of
>> their appointment.
>> them to occur in December.
>> * KCDCC Rep and Alt. descriptions clarified to say they shall
>> participate in _KCDCC_ standing committees.
>> * Young Dems Rep defined as specifically a member of a collegiate
>> YD org.
>> * §12.7 has been expanded into provisions requiring the proposal
>> and adoption of a Privacy Policy, and related provisions around
>> privacy of member information.
>>
>> Please reply with a Yes/No vote on recommending adoption of THE
>> ENTIRE DOCUMENT to the body. Partial votes or votes that are
>> conditional on further modifications are out of order for this vote.
>> This vote will be held open until 5:00 PM this evening or until we
>> receive a clear majority for or against recommendation.
>>
>> –
>> Annabelle Backman
>> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
>> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
>>
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>> [1].
>> privacy of member information.
>>
>> Please reply with a Yes/No vote on recommending adoption of THE
>> ENTIRE DOCUMENT to the body. Partial votes or votes that are
>> conditional on further modifications are out of order for this vote.
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>> receive a clear majority for or against recommendation.
>>
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>> Annabelle Backman
>> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
>> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
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Angyl
Feb 14, 2019, 7:06:53 PM2/14/19
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I’m with Tara again, no on these new changes.
- “Acting PCO” was a fiction created by County, and County is very likely removing it under vote because it’s been consistently confusing for the actual Acting PCOs regarding their role and voting rights. This was a super clear Intent theme at KC, supported by years of known difficulties. (I honestly don’t think “Precinct Coordinator” itself is even clearly differentiated enough as a title, PC versus PCO seems every bit as confusing as Acting PCO, and implies neglect of non-Precinct volunteering which the membership may want to reward with vote inclusion, but I don’t have any suggestions beyond $something Member right now.) Giving Membership upon PCO Approval creates new bookkeeping issues on top of what already existed and further blurs lines for newcomers - they are straight up NOT a PCO until the papers are signed, period. Let’s be really clear that these are two completely different things, one is an RCW legal entity and one is a non-money path to Membership created by the LD org. #ThisIsMyHill #ThereAreManyLikeIt #ButThisOneIsMine
- Board votes should require a) being elected by 43rd PCOs (and members where applicable) and b) doing 43rd board work. If alts get vote, they should be required in Bylaws to join a 43rd committee. If they aren’t required to do 43rd work, they should only get board votes if those they alt for aren’t present and they are voting in the role of primary Rep. If primary Reps dont have to do work either, they shouldn’t get board vote either. Committee Chairs or any other board positions that aren’t subject to election or removal by the PCO (and members where applicable) should NOT get board vote.
- Lines of succession should be clear. These are known failure modes. Sorting out credentials for the KCDCC Chair Trials revealed a lot of problems with succession lines. If either alt can fill in for one Rep, we could get out of process weirdness in a variety of ways. The alts could maybe be direct position based - X is KC Rep 1 and Y is alt 1, or they could be sequential, where alt 1 subs for either direct Rep first and alt 2 subs if alt 1 is unavailable. I think the former option probably captures intent better, but this might have an override at County that has slipped my mind.
- Original: “The records and membership list of the 43rd District shall be made available as provided in the 43rd District’s endorsement procedures or as required by law. The records and membership list shall not be used for any other purpose, unless approved by a majority of the Executive Board, with notice to the membership.”
- Proposed: “The records and membership list of the 43rd District shall be made available as required by law. The records and membership list shall not be used for any other purpose, unless approved, after at least 10 days’ published notice, by 2/3rds of the Membership present and voting.”
- I think a privacy policy with redadction request is a very worthy thing, but given the current timeline I think it should be punted on for now. Let’s have the tech committee develop said policy first, then point it into bylaws. Not sharing anything not legally required without 2/3 consent of the body seems an appropriate barrier until such policies are in place. Alternatively strike everything after “for any other purpose” and fail entirely closed until details and transition process can be sorted out.
- The 43rd doesn’t have the deep difficulties with calling an out of band meeting and meeting a vast quorum that County does. Maybe go ahead and plan another Bylaws revisit between Primary and General or something, and slot changes that produce significant conflict in February to be revisited with problems addressed later.
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frui...@tara-jamie.net
Feb 14, 2019, 7:15:17 PM2/14/19
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OK, looks like I made a mid-deletion. Oy. Hope this makes more sense.
Tara
KCDCC Rep and Alt. descriptions clarified to say they shall participate
in KCDCC standing committees
Tara
KCDCC Rep and Alt. descriptions clarified to say they shall participate
Annabelle Backman
Feb 14, 2019, 8:46:54 PM2/14/19
to Tara Gallagher, 43rd District Democrats Rules and Bylaws Committee
With it being after 5:00 PM, this vote is closed. I count 4 votes for "yes" and 3 votes for "no." Therefore the committee adopts this draft as our current recommendation.
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