Open Item Discussion: Young Dems Rep definition

[Annabelle Backman]

Tara's feedback: 

We haven’t specified in the bylaws, but the YD has always been a UWYD, to foster a relationship with the campus, which is a significant part of the district (and a good source of volunteers). Specifically calling out ANY YD in the area has the effect of adding pressure to look beyond UW. There is not an overwhelming reason to have some random YD on the board. If we want to open it up a bit, we could say member of a college YD group, in case Central or Seattle have a group. (or—yeah, right—Cornish). Or continue to not specify at all. The call out for any YD opens the way for some 32-year-old buddy of the chair, which contributes nothing to the board. I suggest not specifying, as before,  and leaving out this addition. 

My response:

This is the definition given for "Young Democrats Representative" in §16.1 (dd) of the current bylaws. It seemed more appropriate to include this in a more prominent location. I don't have any opinion on narrowing the definition, but I'm against leaving it out entirely. We should be explicit about the definition of the position, whatever it may be.

Debate and discuss.

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Annabelle Backman

Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats

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[Scott Alspach]

I've been trying to get clarity on where our Young Dems rep can come from as well, didn't realize it was already specified this way.

It seems to me that if the relationship with UWYD is so important we should just specify that in the bylaws. I think following Tara's suggestion still leaves the door open for the 32-year-old buddy of the chair, while losing the requirement that they actually be the member of an organization.  If UW is electing a rep to send to us, we should encode that position in our bylaws as well.  

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[Annabelle Backman]

I'm fine with changing this to specify "a member of the UWYD."

Does UWYD elect a rep to send to us? That would be different from "appointed by the Chair."

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[Angyl]

Given that districts can move around, and there are other schools even with political programs, I like something looser like “a member of the YD currently enrolled in a college or university within the District” or something.

Does anybody know how the YD rep was traditionally recruited? Should I go ask Spencer how it was for him?

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[frui...@tara-jamie.net]

Generally the UWYD have selected a rep to the 43d, who contacts the 43rd
chair, or, if not, the 43rd contacts the UWYDs.
If we open it to other colleges the 43rd chair can contact all of them
and meet with the reps they send. Reps from those groups not chosen to
be the voting rep (or not interested in the voting position) could be
official advisors.

Tara


On 2019-02-13 19:33, 'Angyl' via 43rd District Democrats Rules and

>> TARA'S FEEDBACK:

>>
>> We haven’t specified in the bylaws, but the YD has always been a
>> UWYD, to foster a relationship with the campus, which is a
>> significant part of the district (and a good source of volunteers).
>> Specifically calling out ANY YD in the area has the effect of adding
>> pressure to look beyond UW. There is not an overwhelming reason to
>> have some random YD on the board. If we want to open it up a bit, we
>> could say member of a college YD group, in case Central or Seattle
>> have a group. (or—yeah, right—Cornish). Or continue to not
>> specify at all. The call out for any YD opens the way for some
>> 32-year-old buddy of the chair, which contributes nothing to the
>> board. I suggest not specifying, as before, and leaving out this
>> addition.
>>

>> MY RESPONSE:This is the definition given for "Young Democrats

>> Representative" in §16.1 (dd) of the current bylaws. It seemed more
>> appropriate to include this in a more prominent location. I don't
>> have any opinion on narrowing the definition, but I'm against
>> leaving it out entirely. We should be explicit about the definition
>> of the position, whatever it may be.
>>
>> Debate and discuss.
>>
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>> Annabelle Backman
>> Vice Chair for Technology | Washington State 43rd District Democrats
>> https://www.43rddemocrats.org/
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[Annabelle Backman]

OK, I'm going to try to summarize the options:

1. Strike the text entirely.
   
2. Move the current bylaws version of the text to §5.3.3.
3. #2, but scoped down to just members of YD@UW.
4. #2, but scoped down to just members of a collegiate YD organization in the 43rd.
5. #2, but scoped down to just YD members who are enrolled in a university/college in the 43rd.

I think that's everything?

I think the unasked question is, what is the purpose of the Young Democrats Representative? Are they meant to represent the interests of "Young Democrats" in general? Are they actually intended to help with outreach to UW students? Something else? The current bylaws don't actually say anything about their responsibilities.

Given this, and the lack of any signs of consensus within the committee, my suggestion is that we pick #2: stick with the text from the current bylaws, but move it from Definitions into the District Officers article. This maintains the status quo, but puts it with the rest of the officer definitions where it belongs. Following the February meeting, the Bylaws Committee should work on identifying the purpose of the role (gathering input from the Executive Board, membership, etc.), and produce a definition that is suited to that purpose.

Thoughts?

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[Brad Bell]

I prefer simply #2.

If we officially limit to YDUW we should probably be explicitly accepting their decision as to who will represent them.

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[Scott Alspach]

I think I also prefer #2, there is no need to change the definition right now and it makes sense to keep the definition near the appointment procedure.

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[Tara Gallagher]

Option 4. We’re likely to end up with a UW YD, but it might be good to open for options with other local colleges, if YD branches exist at them now or in the future.

The idea of the UD rep is to connect volunteer opportunities and share other info. 

One helpful side effect: We get Kane Hall and other rentals at University price, as the YDs rent them for us.

Tara

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[Angyl]

4 here too

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[Amy Madden]

I think I'm leaning toward option 4, though I appreciate the points made re: the 43rd needing to have a strong relationship with the UW. I'd like at some point to consider pulling in *any* UW student who would like to increase campus outreach/organizing. We had UW organizers working with presidential campaigns who did end up bringing in a lot of 43rd members in the last election cycle, for example, and they were not members of the YDUW.

I hope we can do even more outreach to not only the UW but to area high schools and SCCC, but again, I appreciate the thoughts about how important a part of the 43rd the UW is.

--Amy

[James Williams]

I’d go with #2 on this.

James

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[Annabelle Backman]

If the goal is to "connect volunteer opportunities and share other info" as Tara said, and there is interest in engaging multiple organizations or student groups, then I question whether a single appointed position on the Executive Board is appropriate. This sounds more and more to me like something that would be better accomplished through the Membership Committee, or some sort sort of outreach forum or committee. This is why I'm recommending no changes, with guidance to the committee to dive deeper on what the organization wants to get out of this position.

I'm not strongly opposed to recommending the change described in #4 above, but I'm not sure what reason to give for why we're drawing the line around college organizations. (e.g., why not high schools? why specify at all?)

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