Bronze Mallard wings on a Spey Flly

[vkernus]

After reading several books, etching ultiple videos and running through a couple of packets of bronze mallard, I am ready to admit failure. Those wins are really stumping me. Is anyone in the group adelpt at tying Spey flies with bronze mallard wings? If so, are you willing to teach?

Victor

[vkernus]

It seems that auto correct had a field day with my post.

[Bert]

Sure. I'd love to help but you have to come to Seattle. 

[vkernus]

Bert,

I wish I could! Would love to go to Pike's Place Market.

[Bert]

I recommend a generous dose of Davie McPhail. His brogue is thick and you may be wishing for subtitles. Start the video at 11:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ncM1mcDEwI

And the same again. Use fine thread, e.g., UNI 8/0. Be sure to wax it. A couple of soft loops first, then a few tight wraps to secure the wing. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXo38hR1wo

[vkernus]

Burt,

 

Have watched several of Dave's videos.  My problem is that they do not seem to join correctly.  That is, they don't lay right on the body.  I believe it is more of a getting the feathers properly prepped, then mounting.  The below video was also helpful, but it just does not seem to work for me.  Very frustrating.

 

http://video.answers.com/fishing-fly-tying-tips-bronze-mallard-roof-268399901

 

Victor

[Danny Barrett]

I havent tried these flies. But im sure like most flies, have patience and start with a bigger size.  if it were easy, everyone would tie their own.

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[Bert]

Just in case you don't already feel inadequate, this will make it worse. 

http://www.west-fly-fishing.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=707352

[Carl Zmola]

Victor,

I can't help too much, other than saying that many very good tiers don't tie mated wing salmon flies because they are too much work.  Feather selection seems to be the first issue.  You need to select a set of matching feathers.  Usually people use full skins and select one feather from the left side and one from the right side.   Sorry if this is obvious.

I know that for some flies, the wings are treated with highly thinned head cement.  It is not uncommon for people to take days (6 to 24 hours to tye a salmon fly).

I would try the flytiers forum and search the posts.  You could take pictures of your flies and post questions on how to get a better match. 
Also, try to get to a show or conclave where there are a lot of tyers.  You might want to go to an NCC-TU meeting and ask someone there.  There are some very good tiers there.  I agree that seeing someone tye this would be a big help. 


Carl

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[Daniel Davala]

You may find the help, materials, and experience you need at the International Fly Tying Symposium in Somerset, NJ this November.  Perhaps some TPFRers may wish to car pool and split accommodations?  Great tiers, great classes, and great fellowship - only approx. 3.5 hours away!

Dan Davala 

[vkernus]

Thanks All.  I Had thought about Somerset this fall.  Every year I try to make it, but something is always popping up.  Who knows, maybe this will be the year!

 

I am headed up to fish Steelhead Alley in November.  Will touch base with some people I know up there.

 

Victor

On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:03:41 PM UTC-4, vkernus wrote: