Felt soles

[TurbineBlade]

Hi - I did a search for the terms "felt soles" and found some information, but I was specifically looking for:

Maryland - prohibited - done deal

Virginia - acceptable, but discouraged?  

D.C. - anything?  

West Virginia - ?  Doesn't seem to be prohibited, at least on the Elk River

Mainly I'm curious about Virginia.  It appears that they are concerned about didymo (since they have an article about it here - http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/didymo.asp) but I don't see that there's a prohibition mentioned for any waters.  Does anyone know if this is the case?  

Thanks,

Gene

[Danny Barrett]

Not sure.  i had felt for years.  but after rolling my ankle many times i broke down and bought a pair of non felt from orvis. i forget the name, there the only ones they have that unzip down the side.  they are awesome.  id buy a 2nd pair in a heart beat.  had them for 2 years now, the metal studs are still razor sharp and the boots themselves are built strongly prohibiting most of my rolled ankles.  only downside is there a lil heavier then most.  but i almost have to try to slip in order to slip in them.

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[Jeffrey Silvan]

I just got new waders and boots, and they're studded boots. All my previous waders were bootfoot with rubber soles, so I never had options. Well, I guess I could have found bootfoot waders with felt soles, but that's neither here nor there. I have found that there isn't a surface I can't walk on with studded boots without confidence, although you still obviously need to take proper care. Echoing what Danny said, I'd highly recommend studded boots for safety reasons alone. Another advantage beyond the grip in water - more grip on icy surfaces on the trail or bank. 

[TurbineBlade]

Studs huh?  I have some korkers that have the removable soles (felt and rubber)....I wonder if there's a studded insert for those?  

Thanks for the tips guys --

Gene

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I just got new waders and boots, and they're studded boots. All my previous waders were bootfoot with rubber soles, so I never had options. Well, I guess I could have found bootfoot waders with felt soles, but that's neither here nor there. I have found that there isn't a surface I can't walk on with studded boots without confidence, although you still obviously need to take proper care. Echoing what Danny said, I'd highly recommend studded boots for safety reasons alone. Another advantage beyond the grip in water - more grip on icy surfaces on the trail or bank. 

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Danny Barrett <dannyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure.  i had felt for years.  but after rolling my ankle many times i broke down and bought a pair of non felt from orvis. i forget the name, there the only ones they have that unzip down the side.  they are awesome.  id buy a 2nd pair in a heart beat.  had them for 2 years now, the metal studs are still razor sharp and the boots themselves are built strongly prohibiting most of my rolled ankles.  only downside is there a lil heavier then most.  but i almost have to try to slip in order to slip in them.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi - I did a search for the terms "felt soles" and found some information, but I was specifically looking for:

Maryland - prohibited - done deal

Virginia - acceptable, but discouraged?  

D.C. - anything?  

West Virginia - ?  Doesn't seem to be prohibited, at least on the Elk River

Mainly I'm curious about Virginia.  It appears that they are concerned about didymo (since they have an article about it here - http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/didymo.asp) but I don't see that there's a prohibition mentioned for any waters.  Does anyone know if this is the case?  

Thanks,

Gene

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[TurbineBlade]

Answered my own question -- http://www.korkers.com/footwear/fishing/redside.html

The problem is that there are 2 types of studded soles......hmmmm.

Gene

[Danny Barrett]

Due to spam walls at work, cant view the site normally.  But id suggest studs with no felt that are not removable from the boot except for repair.  The fewer moving pieces, the less you can mess up.  And the sharper the studs the more traction i seem to get.  But dont get me wrong i am never found without a walking staff.

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[Frank C]

The fine is pretty high in Maryland if you use felt soles.  I have corkers with interchangeable  soles.  Rubber with studs are great for hiking in and snow.  They are good on rocks in the water. I prefer felt on the water.  

Frank

[Steve]

Guys,  If you are have rubber sole wading boots and are looking for a quick and cheap upgrade to "studs".  You can add sheet metal screws.  Here's the patterns to use.  I'll try to post more specifics later this week, to include photos.  Aluminum sheet medal screws work well and because they're "soft" they bite the rocks well.  Down side is you'll have to change them out a few time a year.  That's not a big deal considering the price of a box of them.  I swear by them on the North Branch, which is about as slick and treacherous as you'll get.  -Steve

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[Carl Zmola]

On 10/24/2012 06:57 PM, Steve wrote:

Guys,  If you are have rubber sole wading boots and are looking for a quick and cheap upgrade to "studs".  You can add sheet metal screws.  Here's the patterns to use.  I'll try to post more specifics later this week, to include photos.  Aluminum sheet medal screws work well and because they're "soft" they bite the rocks well.  Down side is you'll have to change them out a few time a year.  That's not a big deal considering the price of a box of them.  I swear by them on the North Branch, which is about as slick and treacherous as you'll get.  -Steve

I have had problems with tearouts with this method.  The boots were old and the soles a bit worn, but the screws would rip out.  While they were in the sole, they worked great.

How long are the screws you are using?

Carl

[Steve]

Carl, 

Yeah,  I've heard that has happened to a few people.  However, I haven't had that experience yet (knock on wood).  I installed them in my LLBean stealth rubber boots two years ago and they are still holding. With each replacement, I wonder if the screw threads will bite into the rubber again.  I'm prepared to add shoe goo, but haven't needed to yet. The boots are 7 years old and were it not for the studs, they'd just go into storage.  So, I had nothing to loose.  - Steve

On Oct 24, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Steve <dubbl...@waywardangler.com> wrote:

Guys,  If you are have rubber sole wading boots and are looking for a quick and cheap upgrade to "studs".  You can add sheet metal screws.  Here's the patterns to use.  I'll try to post more specifics later this week, to include photos.  Aluminum sheet medal screws work well and because they're "soft" they bite the rocks well.  Down side is you'll have to change them out a few time a year.  That's not a big deal considering the price of a box of them.  I swear by them on the North Branch, which is about as slick and treacherous as you'll get.  -Steve

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[Steve]

I am using 6 x 1/2 screws.  Come to thing of it, when I took these photos this morning, I remembered I did have a few rip out. You can also see I've moved some around.  I'm doing what I can to keep these boots out of the land fill.  There's going to be a lot of felt sole ones there already.  

[John Bilotta]

you might also try 3/8' Kold Kutters screw, you can find them on ebay. 

john

[Steve]

Thanks John.  Kold Cutters might actually be cheaper too.  

-Steve