Re: Amia Calva - Mudfish...

[Ben Sacher]

I believe thats what most folks here call a snakehead. And yes, people catch, kill and eat them, which counts as closer to me :) 

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:47:28 AM UTC-4, Scott Russell wrote:

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Last thursday, 3/28/2013, while fishing at a common subdivision pond in Trinity FL, 3/28/2013; on a store bought, olive, Wooly Bugger, using my Orvis 9', 8#, Access, w/ Clearwater large arbor reel, I hooked a mudfish. Now, this beast was as large as your lower leg, knee to big toe, featuring a mouth at least 5" in diameter. It continued to fight hard after I had landed it on the bank. OK, it spit my hook out and rolled back into the pond before a photo op, but I would like to know of anyone re4ading this has gotten closer to a mudfish than I did. It was unbelieveable.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Scott Russell

[Cgloeck]

I think mudfish is from the bowfin family, not a snakehead.  i am not sure but i think bowfins are protected and should be released.   They look a lot like snakeheads, the differentiator is the continual fin on the underside of the snakehead. Bowfins have smaller distinct anal fins. 

It would be good if someone else can lend some certainty.

Charlie

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[Rob Snowhite]

Amia calva is the bowfin. Watching Andrew Zimmern eat one now on his Florida episode. Northern snakehead is Channa argus.

http://www.wvdnr.gov/fishing/fishinggraphics/snakeheadbowfin.jpg

 

Rob Snowhite

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Amia Calva - Mudfish...

[TurbineBlade]

We had bowfin in SE Missouri (the "bootheel").  They are very interesting aquarium fish if you have a 180 gallon, or 265 gallon or so.  I had a young one for a short period in a 125 gallon (6' length, something like 24" wide, 32" tall if I recall) but they hit something like 30" in length and are fairly stocky, so the adults are difficult to keep just due to size alone.  They're hardy as hell though, and also prone to escaping the tank like American eels.  

Very cool species to catch man!  I remember some friends getting into some back home, but I never was able to.  I was usually in the bootheel to collect Cottonmouths and ambystomatid salamanders....no fishing.  God that was a fun time in life!  Muddy and buggy too.  

For the public record I'd like to disclose that the best time in my life has been after marrying my wife and through the present -- in case this ever comes up, there it is ;).   

Gene

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 7:30:22 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:

Amia calva is the bowfin. Watching Andrew Zimmern eat one now on his Florida episode. Northern snakehead is Channa argus.

http://www.wvdnr.gov/fishing/fishinggraphics/snakeheadbowfin.jpg

 

Rob Snowhite

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Amia Calva - Mudfish...

I think mudfish is from the bowfin family, not a snakehead.  i am not sure but i think bowfins are protected and should be released.   They look a lot like snakeheads, the differentiator is the continual fin on the underside of the snakehead. Bowfins have smaller distinct anal fins. 

It would be good if someone else can lend some certainty.

Charlie

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On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Ben Sacher <bsa...@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe thats what most folks here call a snakehead. And yes, people catch, kill and eat them, which counts as closer to me :) 

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:47:28 AM UTC-4, Scott Russell wrote:

I attended my first, and to day, only TPFR Beer Tie back in January 2013 and had the most incredibly positive experience. Thanks for welcoming. I hpe to return soon.

 

Last thursday, 3/28/2013, while fishing at a common subdivision pond in Trinity FL, 3/28/2013; on a store bought, olive, Wooly Bugger, using my Orvis 9', 8#, Access, w/ Clearwater large arbor reel, I hooked a mudfish. Now, this beast was as large as your lower leg, knee to big toe, featuring a mouth at least 5" in diameter. It continued to fight hard after I had landed it on the bank. OK, it spit my hook out and rolled back into the pond before a photo op, but I would like to know of anyone re4ading this has gotten closer to a mudfish than I did. It was unbelieveable.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Scott Russell

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[namfos]

Talk about covering your bases...and your ass.  ;-) 

Mark

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 8:10:58 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

...For the public record I'd like to disclose that the best time in my life has been after marrying my wife and through the present -- in case this ever comes up, there it is ;).   

[Dalton Terrell]

We had them in the dirtier waters of Chapel Hill, and a professor of mine literally wrote the book on fishing for Bowfin (unfortunately, not yet published). Many people caught them on Rapalas and spinnerbaits, on fly I only caught a couple and they were taken on crayfish patterns. Definitely a hard fighting fish in and out of the water.

Dalton

[pmk00001]

They are supposed to be in the Potomac but I've never seen or heard of anyone catching them.  They are available in the Rap and James and pretty much all points further South.  I've caught bullseye snakehead and northern snakehead but a bowfin puts them both to shame.  Here's one I caught on spinning tackle at the end of last year.

[Carl Z.]

There are bowfin around in the potomac, but I'm not sure how many.

I think the teeth are also a difference, If I remember right, bowfin
don't have the gruesome mouth of a snakehead. But I also would like
confirmation.

Carl