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[troutman]

I'm in the market for a 3wt. I was curios what is a good rod that won't brake the bank?

[Danny Barrett]

sage is a pretty nice rod.  never used one of theirs that small, but there 5 wts are nice.

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I'm in the market for a 3wt. I was curios what is a good rod that won't brake the bank?

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[troutman]

Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

[Matthew Longley]

I'm in the same place troutman.  Can't really justify spending money on a 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod for backcountry.  Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods, which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose.  Beans has some short 3-wts for cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more expensive pocket water rods.

[bill suworoff]

Last summer I got a J.P. Ross Beaver Meadow 5ft. 3 wt., slow action. I
love it. Haven't used it on a trout stream yet but have a ball with
Potomac blue gills.

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[troutman]

Mathew
I have looked into ll beans. I never have known any one to use one. Have you herd anything about them. I have a 6 wt and I'm going to try some small streams. A little bit of overkill.
Thanks
Mike

[Matthew Longley]

Hey troutman--I grew up in Maine, LL Bean was my local fly shop.  I have a 9ft 5wt and a 9ft 9wt--all of my rods have been from LLB.  I'm not in much of a position to compare rods, but I love the 5wt, and am pretty happy with the 9wt.  Their warranty is pretty spectacular though, My uncle closed his beans rod in a car door, brought it into the store and told them the story, and they wouldn't let him pay for the repair, they just gave him a new one.

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[Steve F]

I was in the same boat a while back looking for a 3wt.  I started with the Bean 6'6" 3wt 2pc.  It turned out the rod just wasn't my cup o' tea so I ended up returning it.  I then picked up a 7'6" Redington Classic Trout 4pc that I like quite a bit more.  It won't win any contests, but neither will I.  You may still find them on closeout for not much more than the Bean sticks.

[Danny Barrett]

Not sure where you are fishing with this.  But i saved up for a while and ended up with a 1 wt.  Ive had it on streams that are up to 20-30 yards wide and have landed 12-14in rainbow.  on the tiny streams its all i use.  on the larger ones its my dry fly rod, it doesnt handle multi nymph rigs or big streams well.

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I was in the same boat a while back looking for a 3wt.  I started with the Bean 6'6" 3wt 2pc.  It turned out the rod just wasn't my cup o' tea so I ended up returning it.  I then picked up a 7'6" Redington Classic Trout 4pc that I like quite a bit more.  It won't win any contests, but neither will I.  You may still find them on closeout for not much more than the Bean sticks.

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[Texican]

I've been thinking about a trout rod as well. Can anyone share what if any down side there might be to a two piece 3-4wt rod other than convenience when hiking to a stream?  Do multiple sections impact a builders ability affect the rods traits? 

 

Tight lines -John

[Danny Barrett]

I like 3 piece for little rods(below 5wt) easier to fit in a pack. Ive had all heavier rods as 2 pieces but one eight weight. Maybe it was total luck but i broke it on a fish right where the upper third and middle third fot together, ive never owned a heavier 3 piece rod since.

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[Steve F]

John -- With fewer sections, two piece rods will generally weigh less than their 3 or 4pc counterparts, are quicker to setup, and in some cases cheaper.  Additionally, some people find the smoother taper over the rod length with only one connection results in greater feel and a more consistent action.  But note that these differences are fairly marginal and in some cases completely unnoticeable.   

All of my light rods are 4 piece for packability and all of my heavy rods are... 4 piece for packability.  Around here my 6 and 8wts are my daily drivers.  All other rods are specialty and get most their use out of a backpack or an overhead storage compartment.  Two and 3 piece rods are just not as practical for me, but to each his own. 

[Matthew Longley]

Steve--That's exactly my rationale as well.  I had a 2-pc that I've replaced with a similar 4pc because it was just too difficult to get around with (often ride to fishing on my bike).  Part of my hesitation to get a 2pc short rod is that it won't quite fit with my others, which make backpacking logistics a bit more difficult.  I've seen 8pc rods, which basically fit in a pringles can, and though its intriguing I hear they are a total pain to use.

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John -- With fewer sections, two piece rods will generally weigh less than their 3 or 4pc counterparts, are quicker to setup, and in some cases cheaper.  Additionally, some people find the smoother taper over the rod length with only one connection results in greater feel and a more consistent action.  But note that these differences are fairly marginal and in some cases completely unnoticeable.   

All of my light rods are 4 piece for packability and all of my heavy rods are... 4 piece for packability.  Around here my 6 and 8wts are my daily drivers.  All other rods are specialty and get most their use out of a backpack or an overhead storage compartment.  Two and 3 piece rods are just not as practical for me, but to each his own. 

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[Jeremy Dusina]

I have a 3wt 6'6" pocket water from ll bean that I am very happy with. It is a 4 pc. great for SNP streams.

[Dalton Terrell]

I would recommend that you go to some of the local fly shops, and upcoming fishing shows to test out some rods. Speaking from experience, both good and bad, I wouldn't buy based on price. A 3 wt is more or less a luxury, a specialized tool that if you don't own one, you will not be prevented from fishing any waters or or catching any fish that you couldn't on your 4 or 5 weight. If you buy some cheapo 3 wt, it probably will not get fished much as you will wish that you got that good one that was a little more coin and probably end up grabbing the 5 wt with the action you love when you hit the little streams that are ideal for the 3 wt. 

Dalton

[troutman]

Thanks guys for the help. I went to the local orvis store and purchased a orvis 3 wt Clearwater. I coasted it and it was amazing. Thanks again for the help. Without you guys a new guy would be lost.
Mike

[Longley]

Awesome man! What length?

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> Thanks guys for the help. I went to the local orvis store and purchased a orvis 3 wt Clearwater. I coasted it and it was amazing. Thanks again for the help. Without you guys a new guy would be lost.
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[troutman]

I have th 7'6" and is a 3 wt

[peter odell]

I would take a look at EBAY - there are some great used rods on there (most with lifetime warranties), and may alternatives.  I bought an offbrand 2wt for small trout and bluegills, and it has been fantastic.

[Aaron O]

Hey Dalton,

Just want to pick your brain a second. So in your opinion if I mainly fish the potomac area with my 7 wt. 4 piece streamline from orvis , you think I would be able to fish the occasional trout stream (Accotick, Holmes, etc... ) and I would be fine with the 5/6 wt. 2 piece (old cheap pole someone gave me)? I am also hoping to do some of the smaller streams like SNP and some small streams/creeks in Fredrick/ Garrett county (mountain streams), You don't think not having a 3 or 4 wt would be a hinderance. I have not fished any of these area yet but what I hear, they are tight areas that a light short pole would be benneficial. I am planning/hoping to buy 1 new pole and reel this spring. It will either be a 3 or 4 wt. rod or replace the 5/6 wt. 2 piece with a better one and reel (old set up not smooth at all) or atlease replace the reel and line.

[Dalton Terrell]

Aaron,

Of course this is all up to you, but I would rather own a couple really sweet rods in key sizes than a bunch of mediocre rods in every weight. With this being said, I own more than ten rods (that I got really good deals on...) and a couple of these didn't see the water last year. Out of about 80 days on the water last year, I would guess that I used either my 9' 5wt or 9' 7wt 60 of those days. Don't let owning only a 5/6wt hinder you from hitting small streams in Shenandoah; there has been some discussion about wanting a short rod in these small streams, but then there are others who like super long tenkara rods out there--its all preference and any rod from 5' to 15' will catch a fish if you know how to use it. I have even caught a brookie in SNP on my 7wt with full sinking line, not that I would recommend this tactic to everyone.

But after you take out your 5/6wt to a small stream a few times, test out some 3-5wt rods and buy one you like if you're ready to replace the rod.

Dalton

[Matthew Longley]

Aaron--when I went out to NM for some small-stream trout fishing, all I had was my 8'6" 5/6wt rod.  I caught a bunch of trees, but I'd be fooling myself if I thought the length of the rod had anything to do with it...  If you read enough about small stream fishing, you'll see basically what Dalton just wrote--there is no consensus.  Some folks like short rods to cast with, some folks use longer rods and hardly even cast any line out, they just use the length of the rod to get distance (tenkara is this technique taken to the extreme).

I'm in the (casual) market for a short 3wt because I really like hiring and backcountry treking, and it fits my ideal of scrambling in to some tiny trickle brook and flicking tiny dries at tiny trout.  But I certainly don't NEED one...  Put in the time, figure out where your priorities are, and invest your money there.  Until then, use what you got.

Dalton

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[Aaron O]

Dalton and Matthew,

 

    Thanks for the great suggestions,  I will take that to heart and give the streams out a try with what I have.  I do appreciate the feedback.

 

Thanks again guys,

 

 

[Carl Z.]

Since you already have a nice 7wt,  I would go with an 8' or 8.5' 4wt.  This is a good all around trout rod( dry flies, nymphing and even light streamers).  An 8' rod is good for most trout streams in the area. 

If you want to, you can always find an excuse for another rod, but if you have a 4wt and a 7wt you have most of the bases covered. 

Specialized rods, such as 7' 3wt or 10' 5wt nymphing rods have their uses, but most of the time, you want to carry one rod onto the water that will cover what you are planning for that day, so even though I have other rods, I find myself using one of my 3 goto rods a 4wt, 6wt, or 8wt.   

I agree with Dalton, a few really nice rods that you are comfortable with beat a lot of cheap rods.

Carl

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