Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: rebuking satan causes him to squawk like a chicken.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb25186a059c871d?
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
J A
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Behold in wide-eyed <del>
Jesus as the Messiah?
Rabbi Shraga Simmons
Question: Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as
the Messiah, and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the
Messiah?
Answer
It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:
5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology
6) Jews and Gentiles
7) Bringing the Messiah
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1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he
will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression,
suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword
against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite
humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world --
on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah
14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic
prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming,
but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies
outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
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2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the
land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of
Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from
Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets
-- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had
ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David
(see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim
that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and
thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of
being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The
Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone
coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false
prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states
that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and
9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
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3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew
text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in
Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has
always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries
later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with
the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands
and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically
similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a
reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the
"suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52,
describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The
prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews
("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples
of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the
11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted
in the name of Jesus.
From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century
Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary
to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they
admire."
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4) JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION
Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its
belief on national revelation -- i.e. God speaking to the entire
nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell
everyone, not just one person.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not
rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact,
the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to
charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the
miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing
miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles
were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed
by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as
proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount
Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not
dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God
spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this
covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive
today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of
every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
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5) CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY
The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic
Church, the largest Christian denomination, and the one most familiar
to the Western world.
A. GOD AS THREE?
The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O
Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare
the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and
binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God's
One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the
last words uttered before a Jew dies.
In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry --
one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his
life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and
throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert.
B. MAN AS GOD?
Christians believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus
said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the
fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no
physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond
space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes
human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His
divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19).
Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and
possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a
demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an
individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into
the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
C. INTERMEDIARY FOR PRAYER?
The Catholic belief is that prayer must be directed through an
intermediary -- i.e. confessing one's sins to a priest. Jesus himself
is an intermediary, as Jesus said: "No man cometh unto the Father but
by me."
In Judaism, prayer is a totally private matter, between each
individual and God. As the Bible says: "God is near to all who call
unto Him" (Psalms 145:18). Further, the Ten Commandments state: "You
shall have no other gods BEFORE ME," meaning that it is forbidden to
set up a mediator between God and man. (see Maimonides - Laws of
Idolatry ch. 1)
D. INVOLVEMENT IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD
Catholic doctrine often treats the physical world as an evil to be
avoided. Mary, the holiest woman, is portrayed as a virgin. Priests
and nuns are celibate. And monasteries are in remote, secluded
locations.
By contrast, Judaism believes that God created the physical world not
to frustrate us, but for our pleasure. Jewish spirituality comes
through grappling with the mundane world in a way that uplifts and
elevates. Sex in the proper context is one of the holiest acts we can
perform.
The Talmud says if a person has the opportunity to taste a new fruit
and refuses to do so, he will have to account for that in the World to
Come. Jewish rabbinical schools teach how to live amidst the bustle of
commercial activity. Jews don't retreat from life, we elevate it.
Uncle Vic
@emorycardiology.com> bloodied us up with this:
>
> Andrew <><
Ugh. I need a shower after every post of yours I read. That's it, back in
the killfile for you, jebusboy.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
Olrik
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb25186a059c871d?
>
> May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
> blessedly wonderful New Years ...
>
> ... by being hungrier:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
>
> Hunger is wonderful :-)
Snack time! Delicious old cheddar cheese on some tasty biscuits!
Tomorrow, maybe nachos with a cool salsa! Mium!
Olrik
<snip>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb25186a059c871d?
> >
> > May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
> > blessedly wonderful New Years ...
> >
> > ... by being hungrier:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
> >
> > Hunger is wonderful :-)
>
> Snack time! Delicious old cheddar cheese on some tasty biscuits!
> Tomorrow, maybe nachos with a cool salsa! Mium!
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that HE is blessing you per the prayer
requests of the righteous :-)
Laus Deo ! ! !
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
Olrik
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb25186a059c871d?
>
> > > May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
> > > blessedly wonderful New Years ...
>
> > > ... by being hungrier:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
>
> > > Hunger is wonderful :-)
>
> > Snack time! Delicious old cheddar cheese on some tasty biscuits!
> > Tomorrow, maybe nachos with a cool salsa! Mium!
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> you to unwittingly reveal that HE is blessing you per the prayer
> requests of the righteous :-)
Hunger is very bad. Gotta eat good food. I had cassoulet for diner
yesterday. It was superb. For lunch tomorrow, I'll probably have
chicken pie, or maybe pork rillettes.
Hunger is never good. If you are poor, like Chung, ask for good,
nourishing eats at the local charity. Don't be ashamed, your life
depends on it.
Olrik
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb25186a059c871d?
> >
> > > > May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, have a
> > > > blessedly wonderful New Years ...
> >
> > > > ... by being hungrier:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
> >
> > > > Hunger is wonderful :-)
> >
> > > Snack time! Delicious old cheddar cheese on some tasty biscuits!
> > > Tomorrow, maybe nachos with a cool salsa! Mium!
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> > you to unwittingly reveal that HE is blessing you per the prayer
> > requests of the righteous :-)
>
> Hunger is very bad.
Your suffering from this powerful delusion is in fulfillment of the
prophecy described in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue
Sanity's Little Helper
news:8a79a18d-6368-4b9a...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
to alt.atheism on 27 Dec 2007:
> On Dec 26, 7:20 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>
>> Behold in wide-eyed <del>
>
>
> Jesus as the Messiah?
>
> Rabbi Shraga Simmons
>
> Question: Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as
> the Messiah, and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the
> Messiah?
> Answer
> It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
> Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
> 1) Jesus did not
...exist. Why over-egg the pudding?
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
And now, today's sponsor message:
For the P.T. Barnum of non-verified medicine, it's got to be:
Earthquack.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
mxyzptlk
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
>
> <><
>
> May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
>
mxyzptlk
I'm having liver and fava beans. Which way is Mableton?
Bill M
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:c905a2c6-865c-41eb...@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Olrik
> > Hunger is very bad.
>
> Your suffering from this powerful delusion is in fulfillment of the
> prophecy described in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
I was quite hungry for lunch, so I finally had couscous with curry and
chicken, washed down with a cool glass of milk. And I'm not hungry
anymore! Food is great!
Folks, hunger is never good. If you are poor, like Chung, ask for
good,
nourishing eats at the local charity. Don't be ashamed, your life
depends on it.
Olrik
<snip insanity>
Olrik
I you go there, I'll spring for the nice Chianti!
Olrik
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> I was quite hungry for lunch...
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that HE has been answering our prayers on
your behalf by blessing you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
> , so I finally had couscous with curry and
> chicken, washed down with a cool glass of milk. And I'm not hungry
> anymore!
Sad to read that either the food was bad or the amount excessive.
> Food is great!
Then the amount was excessive. Would suggest you eat less, down to the
optimal amount to become healthier (hungrier) than ever:
> Folks, hunger is never good.
Instead, it is simply wonderful :-)
May we, who are sane because we no longer suffer from the delusion
that hunger is bad, have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Olrik
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81c463719f74aad?
>
> > I was quite hungry for lunch...
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> you to unwittingly reveal that HE has been answering our prayers on
> your behalf by blessing you:
That desperate, huh?
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
>
> > , so I finally had couscous with curry and
> > chicken, washed down with a cool glass of milk. And I'm not hungry
> > anymore!
>
> Sad to read that either the food was bad or the amount excessive.
The food was excellent, and the portion appropriate.
> > Food is great!
>
> Then the amount was excessive. Would suggest you eat less, down to the
> optimal amount to become healthier (hungrier) than ever:
You don't know how much food I consume. Would suggest you FOAD.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
>
> > Folks, hunger is never good.
>
> Instead, it is simply wonderful :-)
No, it's not, Biblical Misinterpreter in Chief.
<snip insanity>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81c463719f74aad?
> >
> > > I was quite hungry for lunch...
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> > you to unwittingly reveal that HE has been answering our prayers on
> > your behalf by blessing you:
>
> That desperate, huh?
No. Those who are praising GOD are the opposite of desperate.
Bottom line:
You remain pathologically untruthful.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue
to pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Free Lunch
>convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81c463719f74aad?
>> >
>> > > I was quite hungry for lunch...
>> >
>> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
>> > you to unwittingly reveal that HE has been answering our prayers on
>> > your behalf by blessing you:
>>
>> That desperate, huh?
>
>No. Those who are praising GOD are the opposite of desperate.
But, Andy, baby, you aren't praising any gods. You are mocking. You
worship yourself and your claims about God, nothing else.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> >> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81c463719f74aad?
> >> >
> >> > > I was quite hungry for lunch...
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> >> > you to unwittingly reveal that HE has been answering our prayers on
> >> > your behalf by blessing you:
> >>
> >> That desperate, huh?
> >
> > No. Those who are praising GOD are the opposite of desperate.
>
> But, Andy, baby, you aren't praising any gods.
It remains my choice to praise GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength.
Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><