Ousting mid-action + block attempts

ira...@gmail.com

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Nov 5, 2008, 9:58:21 PM11/5/08

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Hello LSJ,

Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt
to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the
Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe
the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive.

Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected
action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a
chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure.

Thanks,
Ira

LSJ

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Nov 6, 2008, 6:38:46 AM11/6/08

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ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello LSJ,
>
> Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt
> to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the
> Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe
> the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive.

Correct.

Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot.
(If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49d05452dab442

> Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected
> action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a
> chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure.

He would if he hadn't yet gotten a chance to block.
See the post linked from the post cited above, namely:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e79b0034556c3d1b

ira...@gmail.com

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Nov 6, 2008, 6:57:27 PM11/6/08

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On Nov 6, 3:38 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello LSJ,
>
> > Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt
> > to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the
> > Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe
> > the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive.
>
> Correct.
>
> Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot.
> (If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.)
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49...

>
> > Consider the same setup, but instead of bleeding, I take an undirected
> > action, and my prey is ousted mid-action. Does my new prey also get a
> > chance to block? I think not, but I'm not really sure.
>
> He would if he hadn't yet gotten a chance to block.

> See the post linked from the post cited above, namely:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e79b...

Thank you for all the helpful answers, and I'm sorry I didn't find
this post on my own!

Ira

LSJ

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Jan 22, 2009, 9:39:24 AM1/22/09

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LSJ wrote:

> ira...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Say my prey has 1 pool, and a vamp with 0 blood and Fame. I attempt
>> to bleed, my prey attempts to block, I play Psychomachia, sending the
>> Famous vamp to torpor and ousting my prey. What happens? I believe
>> the bleed fizzles, I don't get the edge, and I can't play Freak Drive.
>

> Correct.
>
> Well, assuming no one else bothers to block with Eagle's Sight or whatnot.
> (If someone blocks, you could get to play superior Freak Drive.)
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ff49d05452dab442

REVERSAL:

The above bit on Freak Drive contradicts an earlier answer, and, in the interest
of keeping things consistent and avoiding unnecessary complexity, we'll go with
that earlier answer:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/cb909d524585a197

So, back to the example bleed above, yeah, the action would fizzle, but
(assuming it reaches resolution unblocked) it is still successful (by definition
of "successful action", namely: resolves unblocked).

So you could still play Freak Drive at normal Fortitude to untap after a
successful action that fizzles at resolution.