He did indeed refuse to give Todd back his money unless Todd
"confesses" to a made up "lie' (where George would be basically
dictating to Todd to tell a lie that he lied in regards to the Punk
ripoff) .
But we all know it's just another ploy to not refund any money.
And yes, George called us all "RGP idiots" too LOL!
Buyers beware!
Bob C
PS- Todd's latest post in regards to this matter can be found by
searching the group for ""Rileyed" Update....NO REFUND FOR YOU !"
In case anyone on RGP doesn't know about this fellow, here's the short
course:
George Riley is a highly dysfunctional seller of pinballs and other
arcade machines. He is located in Ballston Spa, NY and frequently
posts on Craigslist, eBay and Mr. Pinball. We can not express more
strongly that you do NOT want to do business with this man. For
examples of how nasty a fellow he is, just search. You will find
dozens of people that Mr. Rilery has taken advantage of.
That, alone, doesn't make him a bad person. He is just telling half-
truths...
Kirb <----ducking---->
Maybe the Mr Pinball Glossary it should show the term -
Rileyed - Getting ripped off when purchasing pinball machines or
arcade games.
"Dude, you go totally rileyed on that POS!" "I wouldn't have paid half
that!"
:)
Anyone want to add a Wiki or New Oxford word submittal?
(ducking for the email, ALL CAPS mind you)
:-)
Please see this thread in addition:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Riley%27d
Riley'd
Verb - wildly exaggerated or lied about; misrepresented negatively by
hostile bitch.
Adam
Sorry, I tried to keep this short, but this whole story reminds me of
when I bought an Allied Leisure Hearts Spades several years ago. I
don't remember the details, but the game was advertised as '100%
working'. When I got it, it didn't work at all. Emails went back and
forth, and the seller stuck to his story about it working before he
shipped it.
Somehow, maybe thru RGP, I found John Robertson and shipped him the
board. He fixed it (BTW thank you again, John). Turned out that one
of the 6530 ROM chips was the WRONG chip, so the game never could have
booted.
The seller stuck to his story, and said maybe something broke in
shipping (yeah, somehow the ROM jumped out of my game, and swapped
itself with another game). He was so adamant that it was working,
that he sent me a VHS video of the game, showing it being played.
If you've ever seen a Hearts/Spades, you may have noticed it has two
drop targets, one red, and one black. The game I rcvd also had one
red, and one black target. The game in the VHS video had two red drop
targets, and the win-score numbers were different.
I took pictures of my game and sent them back to the seller, showing
him that it was not the same as the one in his VHS video. I also told
him about the ROM chips being wrong, so the game NEVER could have
booted.
So now he says something like, the shipper must have mixed it up with
another game. He made good on the deal by sending me some spare parts
and boards (this is what I asked for). So in the end, and thanks to
flippers.com, it turned out OK, but it was a tense few weeks. I find
it hard to believe the seller didn't know all along that it was a
different, non-working game.
Is this a George Riley sale?
Oooooh, interesting question. I'll have to go through my paperwork
tonight and see if I can find the seller's name. Would he have been
in business 5 or 10 years ago?
> I find it hard to believe the seller didn't know all along that it was a
> different, non-working game.
>
Of course he knew that. Never start believing a liar's belief in
their own lies. Once they've cast doubt in a situation they know
they've won.
I know George is / was into classic Oldsmobiles too. I wonder if he
has similar tactics in that hobby.
Bill Stahly
People who make their living by lying never believe their own lies.
What they believe is that there's a good chance they can convince you
to believe or go along with their lies. They know that making you
believe them requires that they also appear to believe them, possibly
even more so than you.
And often, people do. Either because they can't comprehend the
audacity of the liar or because the liar exploited the gullibility of
the person, and the person is too ashamed to admit it.
The key thing to understand about a consummate liar is they don't feel
embarrassed or ashamed when confronted, like most normal people do.
They don't get that "Oh crap, I might get busted" feeling. They
consider it a challenge and a learning opportunity. Even when caught
red-handed they just figure, "okay, I got caught that time, but I'll
reel in another sucker tomorrow, and I won't make the same mistake."
It's more akin to them like a foul in basketball. They got caught by
the ref and the other guy gets a free throw. "But it was worth it for
the five other times I fouled the guy and the ref didn't see it." But
regardless, the player won't lose sleep over it mulling the moral
implications.
(one of my other hobbies is studying behavior disorders) :-)
"Jonny O" <jonny...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5e686224-879a-4807...@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
It pales in comparison to craigslist. :-)
Most people on rgp, insomuch as their posts indicate, are good people
in my opinion. Just passionate and opinionated, and the two go hand
in hand.
But you can have 100 good people and one scumbag, and it's the scumbag
that sticks in your mind.
"Jonny O" <jonny...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cd4c90d1-5fd2-4f6c...@i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 16, 12:36 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> Good point. People are often more passionate about their hobby than their
> business. I run into it all the time. People suggest things they wouldn't
> dream of in their own livelihood but can't understand why I don't do it.
> LTG :)
>
> "Jonny O" <jonnyna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Long overdue PLONK to you.
I feel better now.
John
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