Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) Tops Sean Hannity (FOX)

[VegasJerry]

Rachel Maddow Tops Sean Hannity

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow beat out Fox News’ Sean Hannity in the Nielsen ratings to become the most-watched cable news host for the month of March.

Maddow averaged 3.058 million viewers for the month, narrowly topping Hannity’s 3.00 million. That also marks Maddow’s best performance ever in the 9 p.m. ET time period. Maddow also won in the adults 25-54 demographic, nabbing an average of 671,000 viewers in the measure compared to Hannity’s 616,000. CNN’s Anderson Cooper finished third in the hour with an average of 1.125 million viewers and 382,000 in the demo.

MSNBC also had a strong month as a whole, with the network’s prime time, daytime and total day numbers all setting new MSNBC records in total viewers. MSNBC’s primetime lineup averaged 2.398 million viewers in March, up 8% over the same month last year. Both Fox News and CNN saw declines in the same period of 18% and 16% respectively. MSNBC was also up this March in both daytime and total day, while Fox News and CNN saw declines.

Full article:

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rachel-maddow-ratings-sean-hannity-1202745403/

[BTSinAustin]

One fake news beats out another. Yawn

[Clave]

Well you must have quite a number of examples of Maddow lying then.

Let's see a few.

[BTSinAustin]

You're so hooked into your binary thought process that it's pointless

[Clave]

Who else knew BTS was full of shit?

[VegasJerry]

But one is fake news.. Know which one?

[VegasJerry]

Knew you couldn't show..

[risky biz]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 1:18:01 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:

I've only watched Rachel Maddow a few times but my impression is that she's rigorously factual. I think you're expressing a preconceived notion.

Republicans are going to be in real trouble if lies become less popular. Maybe that's had it's time in the sun.

[risky biz]

That's a pretty weak dodge.

[Clave]

Here's another chance for you to save a bit of face. See if you can
complete the following sentence without your head exploding:

Rachel Maddow's show is "fake news" because...

[BTSinAustin]

It is a preconceived notion about MSNBC and the mainstream media in general. I have only seen her a few times as well. I used to watch Chris Matthews daily years ago and he was pretty balanced for a guy that worked for Tip Oneil and Jimmy Carter. He claimed to have voted for GWB in 2000. That all changed when MSNBC jumped the shark and went on the same kind of liberal rants that Fox was spewing on the right. Bottom line, there are very few trustworthy news sources anymore.

Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.

> Republicans are going to be in real trouble if lies become less popular. Maybe that's had it's time in the sun.

Republicans hardly have the monopoly on lies. They are currently in the lie lead but Democrats have convinced generations of Jerrys to think they give a fuck about the little guys. Dream on.

[Tim Norfolk]

I wish that it could be so, but the US culture is drenched in lies. We are the country of conmen, from the Florida swampland con, to Teapot dome, to the Tech bubble to the 2007 collapse.

[Dutch]

On 4/11/2018 12:14 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:

> Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.

This is a false narrative, maybe a candidate for the label "Fake News".

I know those on the right think they are being objective when they
portray Hannity and Maddow as just opposite poles, sides of the same
coin, but that simply is not the case. All you have to do is watch both
shows one after the other and you'll see. Hannity is pure opinion,
Maddow is fact based investigative journalism. Hannity is more like a
right wing version of Bill Maher, except without the sense of humor.

[risky biz]

The Democrats and Republicans are hardly in some kind of neck and neck race for lying. I have major issues with the Democratic Party but they aren't even in the same universe as Republicans when it comes to misrepresentation, hypocrisy, and outright lying. Jerry isn't any dupe. He's partisan, there's no doubt about that, but at least he didn't pick the dogs*** Republicans to be a partisan for.

Back to Maddow- there's a difference. Her commentary is factual. If you want to claim she misrepresents or lies you need to show some work.

[BTSinAustin]

Since I don't watch either one I can't say. I never liked Fox although O'Reilly was ok in the early days, but that was years ago. I gave up on MSNBC too. ABC, CNN, CBS, FOX, NBC, all BS. CNN and Fox are at the bottom of the fake news as far as I am concerned.

Bill Maher is very entertaining, I saw him live last year when he came through.

[BTSinAustin]

She fares pretty well on PunditFact, not many falsehoods are shown. They have always seemed pretty neutral.

[BTSinAustin]

Exactly. The big problem is that they have managed to divide the country into two camps who are so busy arguing that they ignore the insider trading, Congress for sale and all the rest.

[VegasJerry]

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 10:57:24 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 1:18:01 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 2:13:57 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > Rachel Maddow Tops Sean Hannity
> > > >
> > > > MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow beat out Fox News’ Sean Hannity in the Nielsen ratings to become the most-watched cable news host for the month of March.
> > > >
> > > > Maddow averaged 3.058 million viewers for the month, narrowly topping Hannity’s 3.00 million. That also marks Maddow’s best performance ever in the 9 p.m. ET time period. Maddow also won in the adults 25-54 demographic, nabbing an average of 671,000 viewers in the measure compared to Hannity’s 616,000. CNN’s Anderson Cooper finished third in the hour with an average of 1.125 million viewers and 382,000 in the demo.
> > > >
> > > > MSNBC also had a strong month as a whole, with the network’s prime time, daytime and total day numbers all setting new MSNBC records in total viewers. MSNBC’s primetime lineup averaged 2.398 million viewers in March, up 8% over the same month last year. Both Fox News and CNN saw declines in the same period of 18% and 16% respectively. MSNBC was also up this March in both daytime and total day, while Fox News and CNN saw declines.
> > > >
> > > > Full article:
> > > >
> > > > http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rachel-maddow-ratings-sean-hannity-1202745403/
> > >
> > > One fake news beats out another. Yawn
> >
> > I've only watched Rachel Maddow a few times but my impression is that she's rigorously factual. I think you're expressing a preconceived notion.
> >
>
>
> It is a preconceived notion about MSNBC and the mainstream media in general. I have only seen her a few times as well. I used to watch Chris Matthews daily years ago and he was pretty balanced for a guy that worked for Tip Oneil and Jimmy Carter. He claimed to have voted for GWB in 2000. That all changed when MSNBC jumped the shark and went on the same kind of liberal rants that Fox was spewing on the right. Bottom line, there are very few trustworthy news sources anymore.

Bad generalization. FOX is the most untrustworthy news source on the air. They intentionally lie. I’ve seen no other news network that intentionally lies.

> Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.
>
>
> > Republicans are going to be in real trouble if lies become less popular. Maybe that's had it's time in the sun.
>
> Republicans hardly have the monopoly on lies.

Yea, they do. The real media has documented over 2,000 lies by trump. I know you’ve seen some of them yourself as they’ve been posted here.

Republican politicians lie all the time. Just look at (forced to retire) Paul Ryan’s when he keeps saying that Social Security must be reduced because of what it’s doing to our deficit. They refuse to take questions anymore because they simply cannot answer to the fact it doesn’t.

They don’t see or talk to the Parkland kids because the NRA won. Today’s Republican politicians are now stuck. If they turn down the NRA bribery money by even suggesting gun control, they know their career is over. Some see the light and already know it’s over. North Carolina had two or three special elections and they flipped to Democrat. Two other states the same. Red Alabama just got its first Democratic Senator in 25-years. This morning Paul Ryan said he was going to retire, as have 24 other Republican house members. They know in this next election that the kids will be marching, as will their parents, as will us activists (MoveOn.org). We’ll demand to know the answers to:

1. Why don’t you want gun control for your school kids?
2. Why won’t you close the gun show loop hole?
3. Why do you want felons and the mentally ill to be able to purchase guns?
4. Why do you keep saying; Now is not the time to talk about gun control?

All the Republicans can do is lie.

> They are currently in the lie lead but Democrats have convinced generations of Jerrys
> to think they give a fuck about the little guys.

Show where they haven’t. Democrats, got women the right to vote; got Blacks the right to vote; created social Security; ended segregation; passed the Civil Rights Act; the voting Rights Act; created Medicare; passed the Clean Air Act; Clean Water Act.

What did you Republicans do? Oppose every one of those programs. And now you're against Gun Control.

But do show us your list…

[VegasJerry]

So where do you get your news?

[Clave]

On 4/11/2018 1:08 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Dutch wrote:
>> On 4/11/2018 12:14 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.
>>
>> This is a false narrative, maybe a candidate for the label "Fake News".
>>
>> I know those on the right think they are being objective when they
>> portray Hannity and Maddow as just opposite poles, sides of the same
>> coin, but that simply is not the case. All you have to do is watch both
>> shows one after the other and you'll see. Hannity is pure opinion,
>> Maddow is fact based investigative journalism. Hannity is more like a
>> right wing version of Bill Maher, except without the sense of humor.
>
>
> Since I don't watch either one I can't say.

Funny how that hasn't stopped you from saying.

[Clave]

On 4/10/2018 11:58 PM, Clave wrote:

> Here's another chance for you to save a bit of face.  See if you can
> complete the following sentence without your head exploding:
>
> Rachel Maddow's show is "fake news" because...

*crickets*

[BTSinAustin]

NY Times, BBC, WAPO to some degree but their agenda has been twisted of late. Forbes and Wall Street Journal for the business side.

What about you?

[BTSinAustin]

Good thing you're not a binary thinker there Jerry.

[BTSinAustin]

I didn't change my tune, I still say MSNBC and Fox are both fake news as in full of propaganda. You are too blind to see both sides. It's sad but you are more like the masses in that youv;e been duped into this left vs right deversion.

What's odd is how you claim to be so progressive right up until you spew your anti-Muslim hatred.

[BTSinAustin]

Sorry that last part was aimed at Dutch, not you, my bad. I do get you two confused though.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:49:19 UTC+1, BTSinAustin wrote:

> > So where do you get your news?
>
>
> NY Times, BBC, WAPO

lol.. So just far left propaganda then.

And please, spare us the crap about others and their "binary thinking" will ya.

[Clave]

On 4/12/2018 1:54 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 5:59:54 PM UTC-5, Clave wrote:
>> On 4/11/2018 1:08 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Dutch wrote:
>>>> On 4/11/2018 12:14 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.
>>>>
>>>> This is a false narrative, maybe a candidate for the label "Fake News".
>>>>
>>>> I know those on the right think they are being objective when they
>>>> portray Hannity and Maddow as just opposite poles, sides of the same
>>>> coin, but that simply is not the case. All you have to do is watch both
>>>> shows one after the other and you'll see. Hannity is pure opinion,
>>>> Maddow is fact based investigative journalism. Hannity is more like a
>>>> right wing version of Bill Maher, except without the sense of humor.
>>>
>>>
>>> Since I don't watch either one I can't say.
>>
>> Funny how that hasn't stopped you from saying.
>
> I didn't change my tune, I still say MSNBC and Fox are both fake news as in full of propaganda.

You've also admitted that your opinion is nothing but ignorant wind.

[Dutch]

Not being afraid to be critical of Islam is not "spewing anti-Muslim
hatred".

[fffurken]

On Friday, 13 April 2018 00:15:24 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:

> >> What's odd is how you claim to be so progressive right up until you spew your anti-Muslim hatred.
> >
>

> Not being afraid to be critical of Islam is not "spewing anti-Muslim
> hatred".

It is if you're a braindead progressive ideologue like BSinAustin is.

You've had a good insight (on the Islam issue) of how you'll be treated if you step out of line by your FELLOW regressives, but I don't think you've learned much from it.

[VegasJerry]

So how are you able to comment on what MSNBC and FOX say?






>
> What about you?

[VegasJerry]

Knew you couldn't show...

[VegasJerry]

On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 1:54:11 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 5:59:54 PM UTC-5, Clave wrote:
> > On 4/11/2018 1:08 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Dutch wrote:
> > >> On 4/11/2018 12:14 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Of course, this is all a moot point since Maddow and Hannity are not news at all but commentary.
> > >>
> > >> This is a false narrative, maybe a candidate for the label "Fake News".
> > >>
> > >> I know those on the right think they are being objective when they
> > >> portray Hannity and Maddow as just opposite poles, sides of the same
> > >> coin, but that simply is not the case. All you have to do is watch both
> > >> shows one after the other and you'll see. Hannity is pure opinion,
> > >> Maddow is fact based investigative journalism. Hannity is more like a
> > >> right wing version of Bill Maher, except without the sense of humor.
> > >
> > >
> > > Since I don't watch either one I can't say.
> >
> > Funny how that hasn't stopped you from saying.
>
> I didn't change my tune, I still say MSNBC and Fox are both fake news as in full of propaganda.

How would you know if you don't watch them?

[Clave]

On 4/12/2018 6:22 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 1:54:11 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:

<...>

>> I didn't change my tune, I still say MSNBC and Fox are both fake news as in full of propaganda.
>
> How would you know if you don't watch them?

This is where he pulls out the cheap "your thinking is binary and you
aren't worth talking to" dodge.

Or else he'll just run away.

[risky biz]

That's true, 'dutch'. Propagating hateful lies about Muslims is what qualifies as "spewing anti-Muslim hatred". The latter is all we've ever heard from you.

[Dutch]

> That little cobbled-together disinformation peddling of yours DOES NOT
in any way change the troubling facts about Islam. Most of the terrorism
in the world is perpetrated by Islamic groups. Muslims in the US are 20x
more likely be involved in terror attacks than any other group. People
in Islamic countries, especially women, have severely curtailed human
rights. Islamic governments like Iran and Saudi Arabia are supporting
conflicts all over the region. Countries that have welcomed millions of
Muslim migrants in Europe are struggling with crime and inability to
integrate. This tactic of crying "Islamophobe!" is just lame bullshit.
You need to open up your fucking eyes.

[risky biz]

Most, if not all, of whom acquired their weaponry with the active assistance of the 'West'. It's just as legitimate to describe them as 'Western/Christian/secularist' terrorist groups.

Muslims in the US are 20x
> more likely be involved in terror attacks than any other group.

Is 20X another made-up fact that you got from your Islamophobic online resources? I suspect that the number of terrorists as a percentage of Muslims in America is far smaller than the number of terrorists as a percentage of those who subscribe to the ideology of right-wing hate groups in America. You like to swamp the threat of terrorism by right-wing hate groups with the entire population of the U.S. Why don't you use the same method and view 'Muslim terrorists' as a percentage of all Muslims in the world? Because it wouldn't give you the results you want. The plain fact is that a resident of the U.S. is more likely to be killed or injured by a right-wing terrorist than a 'Muslim terrorist'.

People
> in Islamic countries, especially women, have severely curtailed human
> rights.

Yet you find it quite easy to dismiss the Buddhist, Hindu, and Christian communities and countries which have severely curtailed the human rights of Muslim women. Can you name one Muslim country which has a government policy of rape and murder of non-Muslim women by it's armed forces (Buddhist Myanmar)? Can you name one Muslim country which systematically murdered 8,000 non-Muslim captives in a single town (Srebrenica by Christian Serbs)? I'm sure you must have some mealy-mouthed explanation for your selectivity.

Islamic governments like Iran and Saudi Arabia are supporting
> conflicts all over the region.

Such as Saudi Arabia in Yemen with the full support and assistance of the United States. Great example, genius.

I guess when you say Iran is supporting conflicts you mean they are assisting the Syrian government in organizationally exterminating ISIS, which you like to refer to as the 'real' Muslims, whose weapons were funneled to them by the United States. You don't consider the U.S. and Israel creating mayhem by proxy in this manner as 'supporting conflict', just anyone who opposes it. And you must be crying in your beer about not having ISIS anymore to represent as representative of ALL Muslims after they are nearly exterminated by MUSLIMS and after millions of MUSLIMS fled their rule.

Or are you saying Iran is supporting conflicts because they are helping Muslims in Lebanon to resist repeated Israeli invasions of their country? Those invasions, strangely, don't meet your definition of 'conflict'. And the mass slaughter of civilians in Lebanon carried out by Israel don't fit your definition of 'severely curtailed human rights' either, apparently.

Countries that have welcomed millions of
> Muslim migrants in Europe are struggling with crime and inability to
> integrate.

According to people who fabricate 'Muslim No-Go Zones' and mythologies of entire Muslim communities involved in the 'grooming' of innocent white girls as prostitutes. You sound EXACTLY like the Alabama Ku Klux Klan 70 years ago.

This tactic of crying "Islamophobe!" is just lame bullshit.
> You need to open up your fucking eyes.

You don't have just fucked up eyes. You have a fucked up brain and a fucked up soul.

[BTSinAustin]

Read Jerry, read. As I stated I HAVE watched both MSNBC and Fox, that fact that I choose not to now does not change my opinion.

[BTSinAustin]

Yes, the Wall Street Journal is known for its left-wing stance. You fucking drunk moron.

[fffurken]

lol Can you imagine typing all that demented nonsense and then clicking send?

http://tinyurl.com/meo3px2

[VegasJerry]

Oh, I thought you said, a few lines up:

[fffurken]

On Friday, 13 April 2018 15:19:50 UTC+1, BTSinAustin wrote:

> > > NY Times, BBC, WAPO
> >
> > lol.. So just far left propaganda then.
>

> Yes, the Wall Street Journal is known for its left-wing stance. You fucking drunk moron.

lol You are literally fucking retarded. You can't even read.

[fffurken]

On Friday, 13 April 2018 15:18:51 UTC+1, BTSinAustin wrote:

> Read Jerry, read. As I stated I HAVE watched both MSNBC and Fox, that fact that I choose not to now does not change my opinion.

Why don't you just shut up, you fat pile of human excrement.

You are OFFENSIVELY stupid, and easily in the top 2 dumbest posters to have ever posted here. Go read the WSJ or Forbes for the bizness news, BSinAustin is a BIZNESS man! rofl

[Dutch]

Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia.

>
> Muslims in the US are 20x
>> more likely be involved in terror attacks than any other group.
>
> Is 20X another made-up fact that you got from your Islamophobic online resources? I suspect that the number of terrorists as a percentage of Muslims in America is far smaller than the number of terrorists as a percentage of those who subscribe to the ideology of right-wing hate groups in America. You like to swamp the threat of terrorism by right-wing hate groups with the entire population of the U.S. Why don't you use the same method and view 'Muslim terrorists' as a percentage of all Muslims in the world? Because it wouldn't give you the results you want.

I've quoted those figures from studies like Pew Research. Of course
they're small. Very few people are terrorists.

The plain fact is that a resident of the U.S. is more likely to be
killed or injured by a right-wing terrorist than a 'Muslim terrorist'.

Five times more likely out a population 100 times larger.

> People
>> in Islamic countries, especially women, have severely curtailed human
>> rights.
>
> Yet you find it quite easy to dismiss the Buddhist, Hindu, and Christian communities and countries which have severely curtailed the human rights of Muslim women. Can you name one Muslim country which has a government policy of rape and murder of non-Muslim women by it's armed forces (Buddhist Myanmar)? Can you name one Muslim country which systematically murdered 8,000 non-Muslim captives in a single town (Srebrenica by Christian Serbs)? I'm sure you must have some mealy-mouthed explanation for your selectivity.

I haven't dismissed anything.

>
> Islamic governments like Iran and Saudi Arabia are supporting
>> conflicts all over the region.
>
> Such as Saudi Arabia in Yemen with the full support and assistance of the United States. Great example, genius.

When did I give the US a pass for its involvements with Saudi Arabia, or
for any other military adventures?

>
> I guess when you say Iran is supporting conflicts you mean they are assisting the Syrian government in organizationally exterminating ISIS, which you like to refer to as the 'real' Muslims, whose weapons were funneled to them by the United States. You don't consider the U.S. and Israel creating mayhem by proxy in this manner as 'supporting conflict', just anyone who opposes it. And you must be crying in your beer about not having ISIS anymore to represent as representative of ALL Muslims after they are nearly exterminated by MUSLIMS and after millions of MUSLIMS fled their rule.

So you support Assad, nice.

> Or are you saying Iran is supporting conflicts because they are helping Muslims in Lebanon to resist repeated Israeli invasions of their country? Those invasions, strangely, don't meet your definition of 'conflict'. And the mass slaughter of civilians in Lebanon carried out by Israel don't fit your definition of 'severely curtailed human rights' either, apparently.

So you support Hezbollah, nice.

>
> Countries that have welcomed millions of
>> Muslim migrants in Europe are struggling with crime and inability to
>> integrate.
>
> According to people who fabricate 'Muslim No-Go Zones' and mythologies of entire Muslim communities involved in the 'grooming' of innocent white girls as prostitutes. You sound EXACTLY like the Alabama Ku Klux Klan 70 years ago.

I've read those reports from the UK and Germany. I've never heard that
"entire Muslim communities" were involved. Where is your evidence that
the gangs are a myth?

>
> This tactic of crying "Islamophobe!" is just lame bullshit.
>> You need to open up your fucking eyes.
>
> You don't have just fucked up eyes. You have a fucked up brain and a fucked up soul.

You're wrong. I am a decent and fair minded person. I give every person
and every group the respect it deserves, and I am critical of every
person, nation, religion and community for its bad ideas and actions.
You have chose to issue a free pass to Islam and you act that out with
your petty little fatwas against people who don't do the same.

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:06:31 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:

> Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia.

lol Is this TDS? It sure seems like TDS to me.

Pop quiz (for all sides of the aisle): Who here thinks that 'Isil' is being supplied weapons by *Russia*?

Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0

[halfpastdead9]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:13:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
> Rachel Maddow Tops Sean Hannity
>
> MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow beat out Fox News’ Sean Hannity in the Nielsen ratings to become the most-watched cable news host for the month of March.
>
> Maddow averaged 3.058 million viewers for the month, narrowly topping Hannity’s 3.00 million. That also marks Maddow’s best performance ever in the 9 p.m. ET time period. Maddow also won in the adults 25-54 demographic, nabbing an average of 671,000 viewers in the measure compared to Hannity’s 616,000. CNN’s Anderson Cooper finished third in the hour with an average of 1.125 million viewers and 382,000 in the demo.
>
> MSNBC also had a strong month as a whole, with the network’s prime time, daytime and total day numbers all setting new MSNBC records in total viewers. MSNBC’s primetime lineup averaged 2.398 million viewers in March, up 8% over the same month last year. Both Fox News and CNN saw declines in the same period of 18% and 16% respectively. MSNBC was also up this March in both daytime and total day, while Fox News and CNN saw declines.
>
> Full article:
>
> http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rachel-maddow-ratings-sean-hannity-1202745403/

You can only lie to stupid people so long.

[Dutch]

On 4/13/2018 4:55 PM, fffurken wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:06:31 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>
>> Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia.
>
> lol Is this TDS? It sure seems like TDS to me.
>
> Pop quiz (for all sides of the aisle): Who here thinks that 'Isil' is being supplied weapons by *Russia*?

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-12-14/report-isis-gets-its-weapons-from-around-the-world-including-the-us

"The report found that Russia, China and Eastern Europe combined
manufactured 90 percent of the items examined. But the United States and
Saudi Arabia also account for some of the recovered devices, which the
research group determined were diverted from Syrian opposition forces."

In other words, the 10% that came from the US and Saudi Arabia were
"diverted", not supplied.

> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
>

How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")

I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
POTUS?

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 02:28:44 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> On 4/13/2018 4:55 PM, fffurken wrote:
> > On Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:06:31 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> >
> >> Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia.
> >
> > lol Is this TDS? It sure seems like TDS to me.
> >
> > Pop quiz (for all sides of the aisle): Who here thinks that 'Isil' is being supplied weapons by *Russia*?
>
> https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-12-14/report-isis-gets-its-weapons-from-around-the-world-including-the-us
>
> "The report found that Russia, China and Eastern Europe combined
> manufactured 90 percent of the items examined. But the United States and
> Saudi Arabia also account for some of the recovered devices, which the
> research group determined were diverted from Syrian opposition forces."
>
> In other words, the 10% that came from the US and Saudi Arabia were
> "diverted", not supplied.

Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?

> > Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
> >
>
> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")

I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.

> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
> POTUS?

I am a white nationalist, by definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism

White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]

Reverse it and see what you get.

[Dutch]

On 4/13/2018 7:04 PM, fffurken wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 02:28:44 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>> On 4/13/2018 4:55 PM, fffurken wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:06:31 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia.
>>>
>>> lol Is this TDS? It sure seems like TDS to me.
>>>
>>> Pop quiz (for all sides of the aisle): Who here thinks that 'Isil' is being supplied weapons by *Russia*?
>>
>> https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-12-14/report-isis-gets-its-weapons-from-around-the-world-including-the-us
>>
>> "The report found that Russia, China and Eastern Europe combined
>> manufactured 90 percent of the items examined. But the United States and
>> Saudi Arabia also account for some of the recovered devices, which the
>> research group determined were diverted from Syrian opposition forces."
>>
>> In other words, the 10% that came from the US and Saudi Arabia were
>> "diverted", not supplied.
>
> Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?

I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.

>>> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
>>>
>>
>> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
>> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
>> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")
>
> I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.

I expect journalists to tell the truth.

>> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
>> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
>> POTUS?
>
> I am a white nationalist, by definition.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
>
> White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]
>
> Reverse it and see what you get.

That wasn't my question. Take away that issue, does Donald Trump still
get your support?

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:46:54 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:

> > Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?
>
> I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.

Would you like to take another stab at the question?

> >>> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
> >>>
> >>
> >> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
> >> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
> >> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")
> >
> > I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.
>
> I expect journalists to tell the truth.
>
> >> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
> >> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
> >> POTUS?
> >
> > I am a white nationalist, by definition.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
> >
> > White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]
> >
> > Reverse it and see what you get.
>
> That wasn't my question. Take away that issue, does Donald Trump still
> get your support?

I don't think I'm against Trump for any reason that you are. Your reasons seem frivolous to me, at best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUKCPNo-Wow

[Dutch]

On 4/13/2018 9:09 PM, fffurken wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:46:54 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>
>>> Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?
>>
>> I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.
>
> Would you like to take another stab at the question?

I know the weapons have been identified. Remember, the US is an enemy of
Isis, that's reason enough right there.

>
>>>>> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
>>>> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
>>>> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")
>>>
>>> I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.
>>
>> I expect journalists to tell the truth.
>>
>>>> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
>>>> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
>>>> POTUS?
>>>
>>> I am a white nationalist, by definition.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
>>>
>>> White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]
>>>
>>> Reverse it and see what you get.
>>
>> That wasn't my question. Take away that issue, does Donald Trump still
>> get your support?
>
> I don't think I'm against Trump for any reason that you are. Your reasons seem frivolous to me, at best.

Are you against him for ANY reason? The fact that he is a pathological
liar, completely crooked and a threat to the foundations of American
Democracy outweigh everything, even if I thought he had the right ideas
on Nationalism and race, which I do not.




>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUKCPNo-Wow
>

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 06:35:59 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> On 4/13/2018 9:09 PM, fffurken wrote:
> > On Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:46:54 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> >
> >>> Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?
> >>
> >> I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.
> >
> > Would you like to take another stab at the question?
>
> I know the weapons have been identified. Remember, the US is an enemy of
> Isis, that's reason enough right there.

You are incoherent

>
> >
> >>>>> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
> >>>> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
> >>>> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")
> >>>
> >>> I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.
> >>
> >> I expect journalists to tell the truth.
> >>
> >>>> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
> >>>> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
> >>>> POTUS?
> >>>
> >>> I am a white nationalist, by definition.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
> >>>
> >>> White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]
> >>>
> >>> Reverse it and see what you get.
> >>
> >> That wasn't my question. Take away that issue, does Donald Trump still
> >> get your support?
> >
> > I don't think I'm against Trump for any reason that you are. Your reasons seem frivolous to me, at best.
>
> Are you against him for ANY reason? The fact that he is a pathological
> liar, completely crooked and a threat to the foundations of American
> Democracy outweigh everything, even if I thought he had the right ideas
> on Nationalism and race, which I do not.

I don't think you think much. TDS has rotted your brain (if you ever had one)
>
>
>
>
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUKCPNo-Wow
> >

[Dutch]

On 4/13/2018 10:43 PM, fffurken wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 06:35:59 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>> On 4/13/2018 9:09 PM, fffurken wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:46:54 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?
>>>>
>>>> I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.
>>>
>>> Would you like to take another stab at the question?
>>
>> I know the weapons have been identified. Remember, the US is an enemy of
>> Isis, that's reason enough right there.
>

> You are incoherent.

Think outside the binary box a little. The US is Russia's chief global
adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or
The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.

Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.

>>>>>>> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkiNIPpZBF0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could anyone NOT throw a fit talking to that lying piece of shit
>>>>>> Jason Miller? If Trump is innocent then he needs to quit acting so
>>>>>> guilty - Trey Goudy. (I realize that is a BIG "if")
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't even know who any of the names you mentioned are (except for Trump) but I don't expect any journalist to throw a fit. Maybe we have a different standard for journalism.
>>>>
>>>> I expect journalists to tell the truth.
>>>>
>>>>>> I've been wondering, take away Trump being closer to a white
>>>>>> nationalist, would you still be a supporter of a man like this being the
>>>>>> POTUS?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a white nationalist, by definition.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
>>>>>
>>>>> White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some argue that it amounts to white genocide.[6]
>>>>>
>>>>> Reverse it and see what you get.
>>>>
>>>> That wasn't my question. Take away that issue, does Donald Trump still
>>>> get your support?
>>>
>>> I don't think I'm against Trump for any reason that you are. Your reasons seem frivolous to me, at best.
>>
>> Are you against him for ANY reason? The fact that he is a pathological
>> liar, completely crooked and a threat to the foundations of American
>> Democracy outweigh everything, even if I thought he had the right ideas
>> on Nationalism and race, which I do not.
>
> I don't think you think much. TDS has rotted your brain (if you ever had one)

"TDS" is your excuse for not thinking. It's the right wing equivalent
of "Islamophobia".

[risky biz]

LMAO. 'furkedon' compiling a list of dumb people. I know I couldn't make this up.

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 06:53:34 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> On 4/13/2018 10:43 PM, fffurken wrote:
> > On Saturday, 14 April 2018 06:35:59 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 4/13/2018 9:09 PM, fffurken wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:46:54 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Manufactured and supplied are two different things. I don't think Russia is supplying ISIS with weapons and at the same time fighting them, do you?
> >>>>
> >>>> I just googled it and several sources say the same thing. Figure it out.
> >>>
> >>> Would you like to take another stab at the question?
> >>
> >> I know the weapons have been identified. Remember, the US is an enemy of
> >> Isis, that's reason enough right there.
> >
> > You are incoherent.
>
> Think outside the binary box a little. The US is Russia's chief global
> adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or
> The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.

Oh! So Russia IS supplying weapons to 'Isil' because they're the REDS UNDER THE BED!

lol It's actually quite funny that all of you CNN indoctrinated TDS libtards are now the reds under the bed people, despite all of you idiots being fucking commies anyway

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:06:31 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:

> > According to people who fabricate 'Muslim No-Go Zones' and mythologies of entire Muslim communities involved in the 'grooming' of innocent white girls as prostitutes. You sound EXACTLY like the Alabama Ku Klux Klan 70 years ago.
>
> I've read those reports from the UK and Germany. I've never heard that
> "entire Muslim communities" were involved. Where is your evidence that
> the gangs are a myth?

And notice how the utter scumbag *still* describes the (white) victims of racist Moslem paedos as "prostitutes".

Here is Maajid Nawaz* on Moslem rape gangs -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vRCOtr1Mw

The woman in red is a well known anti-white racist, the woman in black is a virtue signalling bimbo.

*Who has no support in the wider Moslem "community" and you can bet your bottom dollar our resident groveller to satan hates him, too.

[risky biz]

That's just made up bullshit which anyone who is paying attention knows. Almost all their major weaponry came from the U.S. The cover story is that it was 'captured'. Coincidentlly, often immediately after we shipped it there.

> > Muslims in the US are 20x
> >> more likely be involved in terror attacks than any other group.
> >
> > Is 20X another made-up fact that you got from your Islamophobic online resources? I suspect that the number of terrorists as a percentage of Muslims in America is far smaller than the number of terrorists as a percentage of those who subscribe to the ideology of right-wing hate groups in America. You like to swamp the threat of terrorism by right-wing hate groups with the entire population of the U.S. Why don't you use the same method and view 'Muslim terrorists' as a percentage of all Muslims in the world? Because it wouldn't give you the results you want.
>
> I've quoted those figures from studies like Pew Research.

You didn't quote any figures from Pew Research. You twisted Pew Research poll results to produce the story line you wanted.

Of course
> they're small. Very few people are terrorists.
>
> The plain fact is that a resident of the U.S. is more likely to be
> killed or injured by a right-wing terrorist than a 'Muslim terrorist'.
>
> Five times more likely out a population 100 times larger.

The population of members and supporters of right-wing hate groups in the U.S. is probably much smaller than the Muslim population in the U.S. You have to keep dancing and dancing on this but the plain fact is that a resident of the U.S. is more likely to be killed or injured by a right-wing terrorist than a 'Muslim terrorist'. You hate that fact.

> > People
> >> in Islamic countries, especially women, have severely curtailed human
> >> rights.
> >
> > Yet you find it quite easy to dismiss the Buddhist, Hindu, and Christian communities and countries which have severely curtailed the human rights of Muslim women. Can you name one Muslim country which has a government policy of rape and murder of non-Muslim women by it's armed forces (Buddhist Myanmar)? Can you name one Muslim country which systematically murdered 8,000 non-Muslim captives in a single town (Srebrenica by Christian Serbs)? I'm sure you must have some mealy-mouthed explanation for your selectivity.
>
> I haven't dismissed anything.
> >
> > Islamic governments like Iran and Saudi Arabia are supporting
> >> conflicts all over the region.
> >
> > Such as Saudi Arabia in Yemen with the full support and assistance of the United States. Great example, genius.
>
> When did I give the US a pass for its involvements with Saudi Arabia, or
> for any other military adventures?

I guess that was when you said 'Saudi Arabia' without saying 'the U.S.A.' Duh.

> > I guess when you say Iran is supporting conflicts you mean they are assisting the Syrian government in organizationally exterminating ISIS, which you like to refer to as the 'real' Muslims, whose weapons were funneled to them by the United States. You don't consider the U.S. and Israel creating mayhem by proxy in this manner as 'supporting conflict', just anyone who opposes it. And you must be crying in your beer about not having ISIS anymore to represent as representative of ALL Muslims after they are nearly exterminated by MUSLIMS and after millions of MUSLIMS fled their rule.
>
> So you support Assad, nice.

I see we've reached the point in the conversation where you scurry like a rat to change the subject.

> > Or are you saying Iran is supporting conflicts because they are helping Muslims in Lebanon to resist repeated Israeli invasions of their country? Those invasions, strangely, don't meet your definition of 'conflict'. And the mass slaughter of civilians in Lebanon carried out by Israel don't fit your definition of 'severely curtailed human rights' either, apparently.
>
> So you support Hezbollah, nice.

Yes, we've definitely reached the point in the conversation where you scurry like a rat to change the subject.

> > Countries that have welcomed millions of
> >> Muslim migrants in Europe are struggling with crime and inability to
> >> integrate.
> >
> > According to people who fabricate 'Muslim No-Go Zones' and mythologies of entire Muslim communities involved in the 'grooming' of innocent white girls as prostitutes. You sound EXACTLY like the Alabama Ku Klux Klan 70 years ago.
>
> I've read those reports from the UK and Germany. I've never heard that
> "entire Muslim communities" were involved. Where is your evidence that
> the gangs are a myth?

The gangs are always portrayed as 'Muslim' by your sources. Are you asserting that it's a Muslim religious value to be a pimp and consort with prostitutes?

Your propaganda creed is bizarrely contradictory. Your crackpot line is that Muslim men are guilty of both suppressing women's free expression of their sexual attractiveness AND forcing women to be prostitutes who will have sex with anyone. In other words, from whichever direction is handy, you will do everything in your power to falsely disparage Muslims as an ethnic group.

> > This tactic of crying "Islamophobe!" is just lame bullshit.
> >> You need to open up your fucking eyes.
> >
> > You don't have just fucked up eyes. You have a fucked up brain and a fucked up soul.
>
> You're wrong. I am a decent and fair minded person. I give every person
> and every group the respect it deserves, and I am critical of every
> person, nation, religion and community for its bad ideas and actions.
> You have chose to issue a free pass to Islam and you act that out with
> your petty little fatwas against people who don't do the same.

Everything you said there is 100% bullshit. You seek to portray Muslims as uniquely evil, you have to lie to do that, I call you out for that, and you lie more by portraying refutation of your lies as a 'free pass' for Muslims. This is how a psychopath argues.

[risky biz]

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:19:07 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:

> And notice how the utter scumbag *still* describes the (white) victims of racist Moslem paedos as "prostitutes".

This is 'furkedon's' bedtime story about innocent little white girls kidnapped from their parents and 'groomed' to become prostitutes. The parents apparently forgot to report them kidnapped.

The massive irony of all this is the character of pig who's claiming this:

'fffurken': 'And then in Thailand I discovered that an abundance of sex didn't have to involve complications, like human relations. And so began a well over
decade long stint of whoremongering in that country. I had more than 10 years of sex tours in Thailand'
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/rec.gambling.poker/S1gCfwYPBcM/cnwq2_1RCgAJ

'fffurken': 'I'm very good looking, certainly was in my youth. Getting some wasn't an issue, partying like I'm a boss (in Thailand) was fun, and it's hardly as if being drunk got in the way'
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/bZBPQplKHYw/SNA8TevPAAAJ


Thanks for your input 'boss'. LMFAO.

[fffurken]

You're a sick paedo loving racist fuck, AKA a Moslem.

[Bill Vanek]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:07:09 -0700 (PDT), fffurken
<fffu...@mail.com> wrote:

>lol It's actually quite funny that all of you CNN indoctrinated TDS libtards are now the reds under the bed people, despite all of you idiots being fucking commies anyway

Really. This is fucking hilarious. Hillary & Obama suck Putin's dick,
it's all good. Trump bombs their client state, and they claim *he's*
sucking Putin's dick. Brain fragments everywhere...

All liberals need to die just to save this country.

[VegasJerry]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:26:09 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:07:09 -0700 (PDT), fffurken
> <fffu...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> >lol It's actually quite funny that all of you CNN indoctrinated TDS libtards are now the reds under the bed people, despite all of you idiots being fucking commies anyway
>
> Really. This is fucking hilarious. Hillary & Obama suck Putin's dick

Is that the cool aid fox fed you? Try their dick next.

> it's all good. Trump bombs their client state, and they claim *he's*
> sucking Putin's dick. Brain fragments everywhere...
>
> All liberals need to die just to save this country.

Like the Republicans are saving it now? There's no end to your stupid.

[risky biz]

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 10:53:34 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:

~ Think outside the binary box a little. The US is Russia's chief global

> adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or
> The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.
>
> Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.

You should stop using the internet to tell the world how ignorant you are.

[risky biz]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:26:09 AM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:

Fox News bleats 'Trump attacks and Democrats respond'. Two seconds later you're on RGP saying the same thing. What a drone

[risky biz]

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:58:42 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:
> You're a sick paedo loving racist fuck, AKA a Moslem.

Don't call other people what the preponderance of the evidence says you are. It's transparently desperate.

[fffurken]

I didn't call you a paedophile you illiterate slandering inbred, I said that you're a paedo lover. And a racist hate-filled fuck.

[fffurken]

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 08:26:09 UTC+1, Bill Vanek wrote:

> All liberals need to die just to save this country.

I don't call them "liberals" myself (I have various other terms) but I do agree.

How anyone cannot despise these nation wreckers is beyond me.

I suggest internment, exile, or execution. For the common good.

[VegasJerry]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:20:49 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 10:53:34 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>
> ~ Think outside the binary box a little. The US is Russia's chief global
> > adversary.

Uh, that would be China.

[BillB]

lol...what a couple of morons. Both of them are perfect parodies of right-wing idiocy.

[fffurken]

You're first on the list

[risky biz]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:04:08 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:

Because in your middle years you realized what a fucking loser you are.

[risky biz]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:36:47 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:
> I didn't call you a paedophile you illiterate slandering inbred, I said that you're a paedo lover. And a racist hate-filled fuck.

There is exactly zero chance that I love you.

[Dutch]

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/isis-weapons-report/index.html
The majority of weapons used by ISIS since 2014 originated in China,
Russia and Eastern Europe, according to a new report from a Belgian
research group that studied the issue.

But please, never let a few facts get in the way of your need to spew hate.

[risky biz]

You're an inveterate victim of brain collapse. Where the weapons were manufactured is irrelevant. What's relevant is who supplied them. The 'West', mostly the U.S., supplied Chinese, Russian and Eastern European weaponry to the fake 'Syrian democratic' groups created by the U.S. which then went directly to al-Qaeda and ISIS. That was the dirty secret of the four American deaths in Libya which has been covered up by both the Democrats and Republicans. Their job there was overseeing the transfer of Libyan weapons to Syria. That was just one of the sources. Watch your own cited source, Genius- the attached video shows ISIS parading Humvees, American tanks, and a fleet of Toyotas which the US supposedly shipped to 'Syrian democratic' forces.

You're trying to claim Russia is supporting ISIS when it is Russia which is primarily responsible for the defeat of ISIS in Syria. The blockheadedness you display is indescribable.

I don't hate you, 'dutch'. I only hate your massive ignorance.

[Dutch]

On 4/15/2018 1:39 AM, risky biz wrote:
> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 11:18:24 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>> On 4/14/2018 12:20 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 10:53:34 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>>>
>>> ~ Think outside the binary box a little. The US is Russia's chief global
>>>> adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or
>>>> The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.
>>>
>>> You should stop using the internet to tell the world how ignorant you are.
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/isis-weapons-report/index.html
>> The majority of weapons used by ISIS since 2014 originated in China,
>> Russia and Eastern Europe, according to a new report from a Belgian
>> research group that studied the issue.
>>
>> But please, never let a few facts get in the way of your need to spew hate.
>
> You're an inveterate victim of brain collapse. Where the weapons were manufactured is irrelevant. What's relevant is who supplied them. The 'West', mostly the U.S., supplied Chinese, Russian and Eastern European weaponry to the fake 'Syrian democratic' groups created by the U.S. which then went directly to al-Qaeda and ISIS.

So the US bought Chinese, Russian and Eastern European arms then
supplied them to Isis? Don't you manufacture arms?

> That was the dirty secret of the four American deaths in Libya which has been covered up by both the Democrats and Republicans. Their job there was overseeing the transfer of Libyan weapons to Syria. That was just one of the sources. Watch your own cited source, Genius- the attached video shows ISIS parading Humvees, American tanks, and a fleet of Toyotas which the US supposedly shipped to 'Syrian democratic' forces.

There were some recovered US arms but that was mainly pre-2014,
according to reports I've read, and they comprise only a small part of
Isis weaponry.

>
> You're trying to claim Russia is supporting ISIS when it is Russia which is primarily responsible for the defeat of ISIS in Syria. The blockheadedness you display is indescribable.

Yet you're saying that the US is supporting ISIS, how is that more
plausible? Russian strategy is to generate chaos especially when it
hurts The US.

>
> I don't hate you, 'dutch'. I only hate your massive ignorance.
>

You're a hater, don't kid yourself. It drips from every post.

Now give some cites for the claims you made or else piss off.

[risky biz]

Gee, is 'dutch' the last person on Planet Earth to realize it was Russia which was the crucial element in the territorial eradication of ISIS in Syria?

Fuck off, 'dutch'. All you're doing is cooking up imaginary claims in that little brain of yours. I debunk one and you produce another. You're a waste of time, big time.

[Dutch]

Yet I'm the one who provided a cite to support my statement, and you're
the one who just shoots off his smelly yap, AS USUAL. You are a toxic
individual 'risky biz', a real steaming load of garbage.

[risky biz]

No cite is required when I mention an obvious fact to anyone who's read a newspaper or watched television news in the last 9 months. What a wart.

'AS USUAL'? You're the dope whom I've illustrated to be a LIAR many, many times in the past with factual information which contradicted your bullshit. Stop already with the comedy.

[BTSinAustin]

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:55:49 PM UTC-5, fffurken wrote:
>
> Narcissist Don Lemon melts down on the CNN (Clown News Network) -

I have to agree. Don Lemon is a douchebag of the first order.

[Dutch]

On 4/17/2018 2:55 AM, risky biz wrote:
>> Yet I'm the one who provided a cite to support my statement, and you're
>> the one who just shoots off his smelly yap, AS USUAL. You are a toxic
>> individual 'risky biz', a real steaming load of garbage.

> No cite is required when I mention an obvious fact to anyone who's read a newspaper

A cite is required, dufus. If what you said is true then you should have
no trouble finding one. Get busy.

> 'AS USUAL'? You're the dope whom I've illustrated to be a LIAR many,
many times in the past with factual information

Your "alternative facts" and fishy accusations are not convincing.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.

[risky biz]

Remember when I asked you to stop already with the comedy?

[fffurken]

I'm not sure that you do. I didn't post the video (which you snipped) just to highlight that Lemon is a douchebag, which he is, I posted it because he blew a gasket when someone questioned the Russia nonsense. Which although spread to the rest of the MSM Fake News, my understanding is that it more or less originated from CNN. And they're clinging to it for dear life.

[Dutch]

Where's that cite?

[fffurken]

Here's one;

"The main drivers of illicit weapons supplies are not the companies and states that manufacture the weapons"

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/isis-weapons-report/index.html

[risky biz]

'furkedon' is very jealous of others being awarded the 'douchebag of the first order' honor.

[risky biz]

If you knew the first thing about the history and practice of subversion, or even just had a functioning brain, you would know that weapons for these purposes are acquired from third party sources as much as possible to maintain deniability. But I know behaving more intelligently is a high bar for you.

[risky biz]

Do you mean the cite which explains to the dumbest people in the world that Russia was the primary factor in the defeat of ISIS in Syria because they were too lazy yo pay attention to the daily news the last nine months? I don't think anyone has bothered to cater to that demographic.

[fffurken]

Do us all a favour and stop spamming the newsgroup, you're a fucking basket case

[risky biz]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:59:56 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:
> Do us all a favour and stop spamming the newsgroup, you're a fucking basket case

YOU'RE a douchebag of the first order. Don Lemonn isn't. Feel better?

[fffurken]

The only reason you're upset that I called "Lemonn" a douchebag is because you're a fellow black. You think I want more of you whiny collectivist cunts in my country? Think again.

[Dutch]

Careful, you almost made a coherent point in between all the insults..
but not quite.

Just how butt-hurt are you anyway?

[Dutch]

I never denied that Russia was a factor, I said Isis was using Russian
weapons. But you managed to squeeze one little turdlet of a factoid in
between all the insults. Does that make you feel adequate for a minute
or two?

[Dutch]

That's the ticket.. no content at all, just pure wanking. What a fucking
waste.

[risky biz]

You didn't say ISIS was using Russian weapons. You said they GOT their weapons from China and Russia.

'dutch': 'Isis gets its weapons from China and Russia'
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/TrqrbMOps-8/1DUk4uNkBwAJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/TrqrbMOps-8/1DUk4uNkBwAJ

That bit of stupidity was in support of this bit of stupidity:

'The US is Russia's chief global adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.

Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.'
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/TrqrbMOps-8/TzhrKRp7BwAJ

NOW you're trying to change everything you said which is your typical weasel maneuver.

But you managed to squeeze one little turdlet of a factoid in
> between all the insults. Does that make you feel adequate for a minute
> or two?

It's WAY too easy to show how ignorant you are to make anyone feel adequate.

[risky biz]

Don't worry, 'dutch;'. There's no threat to your 'douchebag of the second order' title.

[risky biz]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:34:02 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:
> The only reason you're upset that I called "Lemonn" a douchebag is because you're a fellow black. You think I want more of you whiny collectivist cunts in my country? Think again.

Oooh! I feel so insulted . The Irish pedophile called me black.

[risky biz]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:34:02 PM UTC-7, fffurken wrote:

> The only reason you're upset that I called "Lemonn" a douchebag is because you're a fellow black. You think I want more of you whiny collectivist cunts in my country? Think again.

You're the anus of Ireland. Don't be so proud of that.

[Dutch]

On 4/18/2018 12:51 AM, risky biz wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:44:36 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>> On 4/17/2018 7:59 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:25:45 PM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2018 1:18 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:54:21 AM UTC-7, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:55 AM, risky biz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yet I'm the one who provided a cite to support my statement, and you're
>>>>>>>> the one who just shoots off his smelly yap, AS USUAL. You are a toxic
>>>>>>>> individual 'risky biz', a real steaming load of garbage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No cite is required when I mention an obvious fact to anyone who's read a newspaper
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A cite is required, dufus. If what you said is true then you should have
>>>>>> no trouble finding one. Get busy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > 'AS USUAL'? You're the dope whom I've illustrated to be a LIAR many,
>>>>>> many times in the past with factual information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your "alternative facts" and fishy accusations are not convincing.
>>>>>> You're delusional if you think otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember when I asked you to stop already with the comedy?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where's that cite?
>>>
>>> Do you mean the cite which explains to the dumbest people in the world that Russia was the primary factor in the defeat of ISIS in Syria because they were too lazy yo pay attention to the daily news the last nine months? I don't think anyone has bothered to cater to that demographic.
>>
>> I never denied that Russia was a factor, I said Isis was using Russian
>> weapons.
>
> You didn't say ISIS was using Russian weapons. You said they GOT their weapons from China and Russia.

I posted a CNN article saying that Isis are using Russian and Chinese
weapons.

Instead of scrambling through archives looking for potential "gotchas"
why don't you just make a point worth considering? Like just come out
and say where Isis are getting all the Russian weapons.

>
> That bit of stupidity was in support of this bit of stupidity:
>
> 'The US is Russia's chief global adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.

What's stupid about that?

>
> Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.'
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/TrqrbMOps-8/TzhrKRp7BwAJ
>
> NOW you're trying to change everything you said which is your typical weasel maneuver.
>
> But you managed to squeeze one little turdlet of a factoid in
>> between all the insults. Does that make you feel adequate for a minute
>> or two?
>
> It's WAY too easy to show how ignorant you are to make anyone feel adequate.
>

Easy? It looks like you spent an hour combing the google archives to
come up with that mangled mess.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 20:08:44 UTC+1, Dutch wrote:

> > You didn't say ISIS was using Russian weapons. You said they GOT their weapons from China and Russia.
>
> I posted a CNN article saying that Isis are using Russian and Chinese
> weapons.

Oh shut up. Focus on curing your TDS.

[Dutch]

I am, by cheering for Robert Mueller.

[risky biz]

Other than that Russia is not the chief global adversary of the US, the US 'fight' against ISIS is totally cosmetic, and Russia is destroying ISIS and not destroying the US which seems to me to mean that they hate ISIS more none of it is stupid. In other words, all of it is stupid, just in case you can't figure that out.

> > Now you explain the fact the so many of Isis's weapons are Russian.'
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/TrqrbMOps-8/TzhrKRp7BwAJ
> >
> > NOW you're trying to change everything you said which is your typical weasel maneuver.
> >
> > But you managed to squeeze one little turdlet of a factoid in
> >> between all the insults. Does that make you feel adequate for a minute
> >> or two?
> >
> > It's WAY too easy to show how ignorant you are to make anyone feel adequate.
> >
>
> Easy? It looks like you spent an hour combing the google archives to
> come up with that mangled mess.

Google archives? This is all stupid shit you've said in the last two days. Yeah, I know . . you don't remember.

[Dutch]

On 4/18/2018 9:17 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> 'The US is Russia's chief global adversary. The US is fighting Isis. Who does Russia hate more, Isis or The US? This is some 3D chess by Putin.
>> What's stupid about that?
> Other than that Russia is not the chief global adversary of the US,

Which foreign nation hacked their way into the last US election to elect
a carnival barker who is now essentially a Russian puppet?

Which nation has as their chief international strategy to disrupt
democratic elections throughout the west, especially America?

Which foreign nation has invaded other nations' sovereign soil several
times in recent years?

Which foreign nation has as its banking system a vast corrupt money
laundering scheme?

If not Russia then who?