Roadeo Questions

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JL

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Sep 8, 2011, 2:23:46 AM9/8/11
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Does the Roadeo have a standard Rivendell threaded seat stay and
chainstay bridges?

How are people liking this model compared to other similar models
(AHH, Ram/Rom, etc)?

Thanks
JL

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rperks

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Sep 8, 2011, 10:31:27 PM9/8/11
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I will chime in since I can at least aswer a couple of your
questions. I have a 63cm Roadeo and tip the scales at 215, so YMMV.
I love mine it is great on and off the pavement, a little bit
unsettlingly compliant for rough singletrack, but it has been their
and lived to tell the tale. It is more than stout enough for me and
20lbs of stuf well distributed, but any more or concentrate the load
and its presence becomes well known. I have not ridden the other
models, but at times in the winter wonder if a Homer would have made
fenders easier, but in SoCal that is only a month or two. If you wnat
to test the waters the few Ram/Rom bikes that come across the used
market seem to be a heck of a deal.

As for the fenders and bridges: At the chain stays there is a threaded
boss on the BB casting web, you will need a 1.5 inch poly spacer and a
long bolt from the hardware store to make it work. At the brake
bridge there is only the brake hole, I use a Sheldon Fender nut here,
Short version is that Waterford built bikes may never be threaded at
the brake bridge for a fender the way we would hope and dream.

Rob
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reynoldslugs

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Sep 9, 2011, 11:44:11 AM9/9/11
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I have a number of other Rivendell models - - Atlantis, Rambouillet,
Road Custom, Quickbeam, Legolas. The Roadeo is my favorite road
bike. For anything less than trail riding, it is a perfect bike.
Pictures here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625765337223/

I will check the chainstay bridge threading tonight.

RL

Joe Bernard

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Sep 9, 2011, 12:07:53 PM9/9/11
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You have six Rivendells?!
 
Joe "!" Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

Allingham II, Thomas J

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Sep 9, 2011, 12:24:27 PM9/9/11
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Guilty as charged (sort of).  But my therapist says I'm making progress.
 
I have 3 fully rideable Rivs: a Quickbeam commuter, an Atlantis tourer, and a Hilsen fo-fast (as a slow guy can go).
 
I have a Bombadil near the end of a long rebuild into a Rohloff/SON beast, but my imperfect mechanical skills keep delaying its launch.
 
And I have SimpleOne and Bleriot frame/forks, waiting for inspiration.
 
And, uh, mumble, mumble, I'm on the HS list.  
 
 
 


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You have six Rivendells?!
 
Joe "!" Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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reynoldslugs

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Sep 9, 2011, 12:36:19 PM9/9/11
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well, I think so. If you count Herons, I might have one or two more.
Each is built up, happy, rides well, and has its own personality.

The prettiest are the custom (below) and the Roadeo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625808579123/

RL

Eric Norris

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Sep 9, 2011, 12:40:27 PM9/9/11
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Nice! I'll be reconfiguring my Riv Road this weekend to be much like yours, changing out the Ergo levers with standard brake levers and downtube friction shifting. I had great luck with this setup on PBP, so I'm giving it a try on my Riv. The biggest plus was better performance in terms of hand comfort--I've found this year that the broad, flat platform created by Ergo levers isn't as comfortable as the more "traditional" position created by levers like the ones on your bike.

I'll post photos when I'm done.

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Mojo

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Sep 9, 2011, 1:20:02 PM9/9/11
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RL,
 
Can you describe how it rides different than the Legolas?
These bikes have virtually the same tubes but different geometry,
I think mainly the BB drop/height. And the Legolas has a bit more trail.

rperks

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Sep 9, 2011, 3:20:20 PM9/9/11
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The IIRC the Legolas also has a 73deg seat tube as opposed tto the
roadeo 72deg, and you are correct on the trail with a mm or 3 less
rake on the fork. I thought long and hard on this as the last of the
Legolas were still availible in my size when I ordered my Roadeo. The
Lower BB, seat tube angle and eyelets were the deal maker for me. Not
having to cope with canti brakes was a bonus.

Rob
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reynoldslugs

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Sep 10, 2011, 11:48:58 AM9/10/11
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> RL,
>
> Can you describe how it rides different than the Legolas?

I can't give a very honest comparison of the Legolas vs. Roadeo,
because the builds on the two bikes are so very different. The Roadeo
is built as a comfortable, light road bike with supple tires (FSA
Carbon Triple crankset, Campagnolo Record Ten groupset, Schwalbe
Kojaks), and gets ridden on pavement. Really, really, crappy pavement
- - if any of you are familiar with Cavedale Road, for instance - -
but it's still pavement.

The Legolas is built as a 1x9 Cyclocrosss bike, with knobby CX tires,
and I hardly ever ride it on pavement. It's a mudder - - pictures
here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/

On climbs, the bikes feel quite similar. Both are light and springy,
more so than my Road Custom or Atlantis. On descents, the Roadeo
feels more stable - - I don't have any bikes that descend better than
the Roadeo, and those big fat Schwalbes make it a LOT more fun to
descend on rough roads. The Legolas feels super at all times, just a
little more "floaty" on the descents.

They are both excellent, fun, beautiful bikes. Whichever you choose,
you will not be disappointed. It's like asking whether Isabella
Rosellini or Ingrid Bergman is prettier - - It doesn't make much of
a difference, 'cuz they're both out of my league.

RL

Ginz

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Sep 10, 2011, 1:27:29 PM9/10/11
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Thomas,

A full report on the Rohloff Bombadil is expected!!

Ginz

Jim Mather

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Sep 10, 2011, 2:22:41 PM9/10/11
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I own a Legolas and have ridden a Roadeo. My Leg' is set up as a light
road bike and performs wonderfully in that role. I can also switch
wheels to something wider and knobbier when I want to go fireroading
on it. The Roadeo is also a great road bike, and perhaps a touch more
responsive than the Leg'. The Roadeo feels to me like the perfect '70s
or '80s steel stage race bike. Below is the geometry for the Leg'
first and the Roadeo second.

Size BB Drop TT slope Standover ST Angle HT Angle Rake (mm) TT Chainstay
59 70 1.5 84.3 73 72.5 45
58 44

59 77 2 84 72 73 43
58.2 43.5

Mojo

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Sep 10, 2011, 2:29:25 PM9/10/11
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Isabella for me thank you ;~}
 
I appreciate the inability to give a difference between the two excellent frames. I too have a Legolas and agree about its lively springy feel, more so than my Riv Road custom too. That's not to diminish the Riv Road though.
 
I just compared the geometry between a 62cm Legolas and 61 Roadeo.
Within 5mm and canti vs caliper brakes, they're the same bikes:
Mechanical Trail/Wheel Flop 1/1mm more on the Legolas
chainstay 5mm longer on Legolas
BB drop 5mm higher Legolas
down tube reportedly 0.05mm 'thicker' (can they really measure that?!) on the Legolas
seat angle 73 Legolas vs 72 Roadeo.
 
For me the Legolas is a very nice 2nd road bike with the ability to do dirt roads well, so its not a complete overlap. Its a bike that is out of my league too.
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