Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?

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Eric

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Feb 12, 2012, 1:45:33 AM2/12/12
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Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy
Record 10 group on my Ramouillet?

And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks.

Thoughts?

James Warren

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Feb 12, 2012, 1:47:15 AM2/12/12
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Do it.


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robert zeidler

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Feb 12, 2012, 7:21:51 AM2/12/12
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If you acquired your frame in any legal manner.....
Do what thou wilt.
This was America last time I checked.
(always love saying that)

Michael Hechmer

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Feb 12, 2012, 8:06:46 AM2/12/12
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Eric, I can't think of any reason why you shouldn't do it, but I also can't think of any reason why you would want to.  Just because you can?  or just to see what it's like?

Or maybe I just can't think of any reason why I would want either 10 speed, or a return to brifters.

Michael

Forrest

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Feb 12, 2012, 9:12:15 AM2/12/12
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Agree with James. Do what you want with your bike. Would be interested to hear how you like it after you use it for a while. 

jimD

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Feb 12, 2012, 9:41:14 AM2/12/12
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Aesthetic rules?
What rules?
It's a Rivendell, do what you like, ride how you like to.
(be careful if you use zip ties though, some consider those inappropriate for a fine Rivendell bicycle.) ;>)
-JimD

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Peter Pesce

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Feb 12, 2012, 9:58:34 AM2/12/12
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I have 10 speed SRAM Rival on my Sam at the moment, just to try it, so I hope I'm not breaking any rules!
Though I did go to the trouble to find the all silver components from a few years back.

Pete in CT

reynoldslugs

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:12:14 AM2/12/12
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Does it break the rules? What rules? "Rules... for a bike build?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1e9Matf19k

If those are the rules, then I'm a scofflaw. My Roadeo likes its 10
speed Campy Record. I pulled the group set off my Colnago
Masterlight, and it's great on the Roadeo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625470080748/

Max Beach
Sonoma County

PATRICK MOORE

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:15:49 AM2/12/12
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My '03 Curt had a 10 speed drivetrain for its first three years or so, before I had it converted to a fixed drivetrain. 10 sp 11-21 Am Classic cassette pulled by a single TA Pro 5 Vis 46 t ring (24.5" tires). (And I had Curt make the left dt shifter braze on removable!) If I ever derailleur-ize my '99 Joe, it may well be as 1X10 -- certainly as a 1XN.

I see no moral, aesthetic or psychological problem with installing a late model 10 sp group on a Rivendell, as long as the cranks are not like those for the SRAM Red group.

Patrick "1X10, si; 2X5, no!" Moore who has only gotten back to seven cogs in back so far.

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jpp

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:28:38 AM2/12/12
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its your bike!

Bill M.

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:36:04 AM2/12/12
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You wouldn't be the first.

Bill

robert zeidler

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:48:08 AM2/12/12
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Jim is correct on both counts.
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GeorgeS

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Feb 12, 2012, 11:56:17 AM2/12/12
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That's what I've got on my Ram. The cranks are TA Carmina. Brakes
are Dura Ace. I figured that if I paid for it, I can set it up like I
want. I might feel differently about the use of candy-colored tires
or hipster bars barely long enough for a brake lever. There are,
surely, some limits.
GeorgeS

CycloFiend

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Feb 12, 2012, 11:57:16 AM2/12/12
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on 2/11/12 10:45 PM, Eric at ericwo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy
> Record 10 group on my Ramouillet?

Rule #1 -
"There are No Rules"


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robert zeidler

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:24:25 PM2/12/12
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I will, just this once, speak on behalf of GP.
"any Riv is a good Riv".

David Yu Greenblatt

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:27:24 PM2/12/12
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Patrick,

Please describe the removable DT braze on. Do you have photos?

Thanks,

David

PATRICK MOORE

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:49:55 PM2/12/12
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David: am not at home now but when next there will try to find it -- it's been sitting in a small bits drawer for years, never used and photo it. The attachement bit on the dt has been (shhhhh) ground off and filled in (by a professional). 

Basically it was your standard dt boss with a male thread that fit into a female boss on the left side of the dt. The right side boss was standard. I'll bet it was one of the stranger requests handled by Riv, but then again these frames were built for 26" road wheels.

Bill Carter

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:05:15 PM2/12/12
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While most of the RBW crowd seem to prefer bar ends and friction
shifting, there is at least a significant number - myself included -
who like brifters and indexed. I have Shimano STI on one bike, Campy
Ergo on another, both are 9 speed, I like them both. I may switch to
bar ends just for a change when those eventually wear out, but as
others have opined, the central thing about RBW philosophy is to do
what you like and to make your bikes uniquely yours. You'll seldom
see two RBW bikes exactly alike, at least on this list, and much of
the fun is in seeing how differently the bikes are set up. I hope the
new impetus toward coordinated Build Kits does not change that much.
Have at it, and as Grant has advised, be sure to do something to make
it unlike any other bike in the velo universe.

Steve Palincsar

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:10:18 PM2/12/12
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On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:05 -0800, Bill Carter wrote:
> While most of the RBW crowd seem to prefer bar ends and friction
> shifting, there is at least a significant number - myself included -
> who like brifters and indexed.

Many more here than in the population at large who like both bar ends
and friction, but not necessarily a majority, and not necessarily for
both. I have indexed bar ends on almost everything in the fleet except
for one bike, which is friction bar ends.


> I have Shimano STI on one bike, Campy
> Ergo on another, both are 9 speed, I like them both. I may switch to
> bar ends just for a change when those eventually wear out, but as
> others have opined, the central thing about RBW philosophy is to do
> what you like and to make your bikes uniquely yours.

Wholeheartedly agree. Mix and match the way YOU prefer.

John Speare

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:10:43 PM2/12/12
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This seems like a good thread to remind people that Campy ergo 10spd brifters shift 8 speed shimano perfectly with no fussery, gadgetry, or unnatural acts of cable routing.

I have this set up on my Legolas and two other non-riv bikes.

It rules. Verily.

John Speare
Spokane, WA
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Mojo

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Feb 12, 2012, 4:14:47 PM2/12/12
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Also that Campy Ergo 11 speed mates perfectly with Shimano 9 speed. This year's Athena brifters are available in aluminum.

Patrick in VT

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Feb 12, 2012, 7:36:04 PM2/12/12
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On Feb 12, 2:10 pm, John Speare <j...@phred.org> wrote:
> This seems like a good thread to remind people that Campy ergo 10spd brifters shift 8 speed shimano perfectly with no fussery, gadgetry, or unnatural acts of cable routing.

> It rules. Verily.

AGREED! and, to dovetail recent posts regarding rapid-rise rear
mechs, if you mate the campy controls with a rapid rise derailer, you
can shift into the higher gears from the drops and sweep the whole way
up the cassette with one push of the thumb when you're on the hoods.
it's pretty sweet. solid too. i run it for racing cyclocross and i
have no issues with shifting in even the worst conditions.

Way Rebb

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Feb 13, 2012, 2:52:48 AM2/13/12
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If you post pics on Flickr you ought to blur out the
plastic...err...carbon bits but Campy is fine. I have a Campy from
derailed on the Hillborne and that thing shifts fast!

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Way Rebb

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Feb 13, 2012, 3:06:29 AM2/13/12
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"...Campy from derailed on..." Auto spell correction attacks again!
Campy Front Derailleur.

pb

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Feb 13, 2012, 2:25:37 PM2/13/12
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Or you could painstakingly gather silver Campy bits, at some expense.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/

~Peter

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Eric Norris

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Feb 13, 2012, 6:16:54 PM2/13/12
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It's not *that* hard to build an all-alloy Campy-equipped bicycle. Here's my Riv Road on a brevet in 2010:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/4635857718/

Athena is nicely finished and offers almost all of the performance of Chorus at a lower price.

--Eric N
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