Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes

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Daniel

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Sep 16, 2011, 4:38:43 PM9/16/11
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I have me a pair of them newfangled XT "low profile" cantis on a bike
and am doggone dis'pointed in them.

The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me
some replacements.

I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with
them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high
profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is "top shelf" and the Bruce
Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen.

Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any
advantage going with something else?

Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated.

Daniel

Mike

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Sep 17, 2011, 10:33:59 AM9/17/11
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I say stick with the Tektros. I have them on three bikes--QB, rando
and LHT--and they're great. They seem to set-up easy enough and work
well. I've used them in all kinds of conditions and have no complaints
and wouldn't hesitate to use them again.

--mike

Earl Grey

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Sep 17, 2011, 10:41:52 AM9/17/11
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I really like the CR720s. Got em on two bikes now, and will buy more.

Have early 90s Campy high-profile "Touring" cantis as well (http://
ruedatropical.com/2009/06/rhygin-metax-randonneur/). Love them, but
the old smooth brake post cantis are harder to adjust, if that matters
to you. And they are very hard to find and expensive now. Late 80s XT
high profile cantis are also nice, but have the same more fiddly
adjustability. I just bought some smooth-post brake pads with
replaceable pads to reduce the need for adjustment on the old brakes.

Tried the current med profile Shimanos (BRR550). Didn't like them as
much as the CR720s, and more expensive.

Haven't tried Pauls, and probably never will. CNC machining just seems
like the wrong way to do bike parts (Not as strong as forging, and
thus have to be chunkier).

Cheers,

Gernot

jandrews_nyc

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Sep 17, 2011, 10:50:12 AM9/17/11
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The real question is:
Do you want to support manufacturing in the USA and are you willing to pay for that?
If so, the Paul's, Bruce Gordon's and others are fabulous.
If not, the Tektros are a fraction of the cost and work as well if not better.

cyclotourist

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Sep 17, 2011, 11:43:26 AM9/17/11
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Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg. people, King Cages, Waterford... all good people. 
If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to.

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Horace

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Sep 17, 2011, 11:58:09 AM9/17/11
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After trying a few different cantilevers on my Quickbeam, I finally
settled on using V-brakes. I did have to switch levers to do this. I
know that many people on this list disdain V-brakes, but I find that
they are excellent for braking, especially in wet weather, and I don't
have any problems modulating the stopping power. I also find them
easier to set up and adjust than cantilevers.

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cyclotourist

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Sep 17, 2011, 12:01:58 PM9/17/11
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V-brakes are great.  They look a little ugly compared to classic cantilevers, but work great.  Cane Creek Direct Curve kinda' splits the difference between the two.

Seth Vidal

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Sep 17, 2011, 12:56:40 PM9/17/11
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Are white industries products produced here too?

-sv

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Thomas Lynn Skean

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Sep 17, 2011, 4:02:57 PM9/17/11
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Paul Motolites are superb V-brakes. Not cheap... but really great in use.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

Philip Williamson

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Sep 17, 2011, 5:16:07 PM9/17/11
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> Are white industries products produced here too?

Yep. Petaluma, CA.

Philip


On Sep 17, 9:56 am, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are white industries products produced here too?
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> -sv
> On Sep 17, 2011 11:43 AM, "cyclotourist" <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Paul Price, Chris King, Phil Wood (Co.), Bruce Gordon, Thomson Mfg.
> people,
> > King Cages, Waterford... all good people.
> > If you gotta' buy a bike part, it's nice to know who the $$$ is going to.
>
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:50 AM, jandrews_nyc <jasonaschwa...@gmail.com

Seth Vidal

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Sep 17, 2011, 7:05:02 PM9/17/11
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I know they are based here but I didn't know they were made  here.
Thanks
-sv

EricP

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Sep 17, 2011, 8:18:54 PM9/17/11
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Two of my three bikes have V brakes (including the Sam Hillborne).
For stopping power, they work really well. Am using the Dia Compe
drop bar brake levers.

For cantilevers, my favorite are the Paul Neo Retros. Have them on a
bike and when set up properly they easily compete with V brakes for
stopping power. And a lot more powerful than the 720s, in my
estimation. The other nice thing about Paul brakes is the enclosed
spring. Supposedly a nice advantage in bad weather conditions.
Should find out this coming winter.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 17, 11:01 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> V-brakes are great.  They look a little ugly compared to classic
> cantilevers, but work great.  Cane Creek Direct Curve kinda' splits the
> difference between the two.
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> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Horace <max...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> > After trying a few different cantilevers on my Quickbeam, I finally
> > settled on using V-brakes. I did have to switch levers to do this. I
> > know that many people on this list disdain V-brakes, but I find that
> > they are excellent for braking, especially in wet weather, and I don't
> > have any problems modulating the stopping power. I also find them
> > easier to set up and adjust than cantilevers.
>
> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

stevep33

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Sep 17, 2011, 10:21:00 PM9/17/11
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The IRD Cafam brakes are great. Easy setup, very powerful, reasonable
price.

TRP EuroX cantis are really nice when you add Kool Stop pads.

Allingham II, Thomas J

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Sep 19, 2011, 9:52:16 AM9/19/11
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I just installed a pair of the Bruce Gordon polished finish cantis on my SimpleOne, and they are both beautiful and functionally the equivalent of Paul Neo-Retros in stopping power and ease of adjustment. And if you're interested in knowing who did the work and where the $$$ are going, nice to know that when I called to order them Bruce said, "I'll pull out a set and polish them up for you this afternoon." Can't get much more personal service than that!

Daniel

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Sep 19, 2011, 10:48:26 AM9/19/11
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On Sep 17, 10:21 pm, stevep33 <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> TRP EuroX cantis are really nice when you add Kool Stop pads.

big fan of these - easy set-up, especially with the straddle cable
barrel adjuster and the nifty toe-in adjustment on the brake block.
nice carriers too.

also a big fan of Paul's cantis (both touring and neo-retro),
especially with Rick Hunters "NUGZ" which allow for the barrel
adjustment on the straddle cable, as with the TRPs noted above.

David Yu Greenblatt

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Sep 17, 2011, 4:09:58 PM9/17/11
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Michael Hechmer

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Sep 19, 2011, 1:14:06 PM9/19/11
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Yes, White products are made here, as well as the cranks they make for daVinci.  Much of Cane Creek parts, including brake levers are fabricated here too, or at least there web site says so.

Paul's brakes will last a life time, at least as long as you are able to ride a Rivendell frame.  Tektros no doubt work well, but they will not have anything like  Paul's life expectancy, or ease of setup & maintenance.  Personally I found the Tektro hanger somewhat irritating to work with.  Not withstanding any of that, right now, I wouldn't hesitate to buy or recommend either of those brakes.  I would never urge anyone to but the Shimano low profile.

Michael

cyclotourist

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Sep 19, 2011, 10:51:30 PM9/19/11
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Interesting, Michael.  I always thought Cane Creek was basically Tektro parts with lizard graphics.  Maybe so for brakes and levers, but their headsets are made in the States.  Did not know!

http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/08/05/cane-creek-factory-tour-new-colors-new-aer-cap-and-double-barrel-dyno/


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